Re: [cal] So long and thanks for all the fish

Hi All, Just got back from Biloxi/Gulfport Mississippi doing volunteer disaster relief work with Samaritan's Purse for the people hit by the storm. Makes our little problems seem trivial. I would like to second David's comments and again wish the Boyle's all the best, but I too will be on the Yahoo list. Chris Bowen Bowen Homes LLC Camano Island,Wa. ck… [at] wavecable.com From: "Wilkie" <Wi… [at] MariposaSailing.com> To: "Cal" <ca… [at] list.sailjazz.com> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: [cal] So long and thanks for all the fish > > I have joined the Yahoo group, and like many of my sailing rat cronies I > am > deserting what I would judge to be a sinking ship. > > At the same time, it distresses me to see the Boyle's unfairly vilified on > their own free bandwidth. > > I also want to say that I respect their efforts to > make a living from their full time occupation and feel badly that they > have > failed to do so. They created a forum for us and asked us to do business > with their retail store in exchange. Many of us did but it's a tough > business and somehow it didn't work out. > > Now they are going to try to make a living by providing these same > services without the support of a retail profit center. The fact that > they gave us a grace period to decide and an honest "this is what we need > in order to continue to do this" price structure tells me of their > sincerity. > > Slamming the door with little or no warning would have constituted holding > the list hostage. Giving us an honest statement of why they are going to > a subscription base and then giving us ample time and an uncensored forum > to discuss alternatives is an action that testifies to a sense of fair > play and caring. > > I wish them well, but don't believe that it will work, thus I won't be > subscribing. > > David Wilkie Owen > _________________ > Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" > Santa Barbara, CA > http://www.mariposasailing.com > > > > > _/)..._/)..._/) > Browse Archives: http://www.sailjazz.com/listmanager > Get Help? http://www.sailjazz.com/listmanager/help/intro > To unsubscribe send a blank email to le… [at] list.sailjazz.com > _/)...._/)...._/)...._/)

Michael Kennedy said that he didn't understand the business plan. I don't either. Some of the other societies I belong to have open figures and state what their needs are and why. Like Roger, I only used the mail and ftp site, so the argument that the improvements in the last 8 months justifies the fee was not a great argument for me. If that were the case, I would think it would make more sense to have all their lists free or a minor charge, and access to all the other wonderful features under a subscription plan. That way the Boyles would know if there was a demand for their building a cyber-empire with loads of features instead of a simple boater magnet. For those who patronize their other features, the fee might be worthwhile and the lists would guarrantee traffic. I'm afraid I am left with the impression that at some point the plan included a one-weekend powerplay after getting established. I'm not determined to get a free lunch, but I think the reactions were anticipated and 'misunderestimated'. John Dawson SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.