Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map

I signed up for this List today, and just added my name and boat to the map. I was briefly on the other list before it went subscription. Nice to be here and have the resource of all you fine folks. Thanks. Mark

Just put myself on the map as well. Very cool. Kevin Cal 2-34, "Asterix II"

and I'm 'on the map'...twice. Does anyone know how to remove a picture? Bob Wood C-33 Circe ----- Original Message ----- From: kb… [at] aol.com To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map Just put myself on the map as well. Very cool. Kevin Cal 2-34, "Asterix II" SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

done ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Wood To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map and I'm 'on the map'...twice. Does anyone know how to remove a picture? Bob Wood C-33 Circe ----- Original Message ----- From: kb… [at] aol.com To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map Just put myself on the map as well. Very cool. Kevin Cal 2-34, "Asterix II" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

is this related to the French comic book series? i.e. Obelix, Idefix, etc? GE Healthcare ________________________________________________ Carlos Solanilla East Region Sales Manager, Compact Ultrasound 3150 NW 98th Court Miami, FL, 33172 U.S.A. T: 305-591-3468 C: 786-229-6358 F: 414-918-4577 E: ca… [at] med.ge.com <mailto:jc… [at] med.ge.com> http://www.gehealthcare.com <http://www.gehealthcare.com/> _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kb… [at] aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 4:52 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map Just put myself on the map as well. Very cool. Kevin Cal 2-34, "Asterix II" SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing& w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_ XQ> Sailing boat <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2= Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Saili ng+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Saili ng+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . _____

done - picture of the boat in Elliot Key prior to the damage with Katrina GE Healthcare ________________________________________________ Carlos Solanilla East Region Sales Manager, Compact Ultrasound 3150 NW 98th Court Miami, FL, 33172 U.S.A. T: 305-591-3468 C: 786-229-6358 F: 414-918-4577 E: ca… [at] med.ge.com <mailto:jc… [at] med.ge.com> http://www.gehealthcare.com <http://www.gehealthcare.com/> _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Walden Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 4:33 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map Done! http://www.frappr.com/calboats. It's very cool. bw From: "aepoor" <ap… [at] bellatlantic.net> To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "r good" <my1972ih@h...> wrote: > > > > anybody else remember tha interactive Cal list map which showed the > location > > of each member Cal? Does the map still exist? > > Reggie > > > I believe that the pin map is long gone, but I just came across a > replacement that looks even better. Check out www.frappr.com -- if > someone wants to start a new group there, it appears that we can post > our positions and even photos of our boats if we want. > > Alfred Poor > 1969 Cal 29 #132 "Pentaquod" > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing& w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_ XQ> Sailing boat <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2= Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Saili ng+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Saili ng+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . _____

Yes, Asterix is named after that famous little warrior who fights the Gauls and has many adventures in the process. Our tender is "Dogmatix". Kevin Cal 2-34, Asterix

where did you find the map? reggie >From: "Bob Wood" <bo… [at] highstream.net> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map >Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:40:13 -0500 > >and I'm 'on the map'...twice. Does anyone know how to remove a picture? >Bob Wood >C-33 Circe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: kb… [at] aol.com > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map > > > Just put myself on the map as well. Very cool. > > Kevin > Cal 2-34, "Asterix II" > > > SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing > Boating > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >Service. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >

Hi, Reg - www.frappr.com/calboats Be sure to add your boat. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 9:36 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map where did you find the map? reggie >From: "Bob Wood" <bo… [at] highstream.net> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map >Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:40:13 -0500 > >and I'm 'on the map'...twice. Does anyone know how to remove a picture? >Bob Wood >C-33 Circe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: kb… [at] aol.com > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map > > > Just put myself on the map as well. Very cool. > > Kevin > Cal 2-34, "Asterix II" > > > SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing > Boating > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >Service. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____

Who is the administrator for the map? I need to fix my multiple screw-ups. Thanks, Chris Chris Collins '63 Cal 20 #323 "don't know yet" Nashville, TN

I guess that's me, for now. It's a shame it won't let you edit or even delete your own additions. Maybe that's coming. bw From: "Chris Collins" <ch… [at] vanderbilt.edu> To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map > Who is the administrator for the map? I need to fix my multiple screw-ups. > > Thanks, > > Chris > Chris Collins > '63 Cal 20 #323 > "don't know yet" > Nashville, TN > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

Hi Bob, Please delete me from the map as well as my THREE shout-outs. I'll start over. Funny, but the site won't accept a 20MB photo. Duh. I was up most of the night with a sick child and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet. Thanks, Chris Chris Collins '63 Cal 20 #323 "don't know yet" Nashville, TN > I guess that's me, for now. It's a shame it won't let you edit or even > delete your own additions. Maybe that's coming. > > bw > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Collins" <ch… [at] vanderbilt.edu> > To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 6:57 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map > > >> Who is the administrator for the map? I need to fix my multiple screw-ups. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chris >> Chris Collins >> '63 Cal 20 #323 >> "don't know yet" >> Nashville, TN >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Hiya, gang - Now that a lot of us are here, we are hearing that Sailnet is coming back up and that some are going to continue to post to or at least lurk there or on SailJazz or both. Seems we ought to decide where the group is going to hang out as a primary "home port" so that we can all consistently share information and ask questions about our boats, activities and ideas. The concern is that if you have to follow three or four lists (counting Sailboatowners), it is just too much trouble and some of us will simply drop out or hit the delete key. Personally, I advocate for Yahoo, despite having a warm place in my heart for the work that the Boyles did on Sailnet and SailJazz. They are good technical people, but I am not impressed with their business and people savvy. The Yahoo site seems to have a more user-friendly interface - when I was in the software business, we called it a "seductive" interface. It allows people to post pictures more easily and to manipulate the photos and information (see the files folder) related to their own boats. It also is free, meaning that there is no financial bar to new members. Also, Yahoo is less likely to make changes without asking and doing solid market research - Yahoo Groups has been around for a long time, now, and is very stable. This stability means that we will have continuity and not constantly be in danger of losing important information like that posted to the SailJazz and Sailnet ftp servers. As a footnote, it will be interesting to see if Sailnet restores the ftp data we had placed there. If it does, I plan to copy it all to another server as a backup. (Note to Tom Tilley: do you have a copy of the data we moved from Sailnet to SailJazz?) Some of the information on the ftp servers is probably gone forever. That concerns me, because the content belongs to the original posters, not to SailJazz or Sailnet. Many of the original posters are not around anymore or don't even own Cals. But their information is useful, particularly, that from Brian Cleverly. So we need to find a way to archive and protect all of the ftp info. I may have a line on another secretly made copy of the ftp files shortly before Sailnet folded. Anyway, please chime in and add your thoughts. It would be nice for us to come to a decision here and then stick with it. I will go with the consensus, but only with one site. \Rog

Actually, this is a beta site. I found that you can edit the information by simply posting over it once you have it displayed. I replaced a photo with another one and changed the "shout." \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Walden Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:04 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map I guess that's me, for now. It's a shame it won't let you edit or even delete your own additions. Maybe that's coming. bw From: "Chris Collins" <ch… [at] vanderbilt.edu> To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map > Who is the administrator for the map? I need to fix my multiple screw-ups. > > Thanks, > > Chris > Chris Collins > '63 Cal 20 #323 > "don't know yet" > Nashville, TN > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____

done. From: "Chris Collins" <ch… [at] vanderbilt.edu> To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map > Hi Bob, > > Please delete me from the map as well as my THREE shout-outs. I'll start > over. Funny, but the site won't accept a 20MB photo. Duh. > > I was up most of the night with a sick child and the coffee hasn't kicked in > yet. > > Thanks, > > Chris > Chris Collins > '63 Cal 20 #323 > "don't know yet" > Nashville, TN > > > I guess that's me, for now. It's a shame it won't let you edit or even > > delete your own additions. Maybe that's coming. > > > > bw > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris Collins" <ch… [at] vanderbilt.edu> > > To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 6:57 AM > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map > > > > > >> Who is the administrator for the map? I need to fix my multiple screw-ups. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Chris > >> Chris Collins > >> '63 Cal 20 #323 > >> "don't know yet" > >> Nashville, TN > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

I'd like to stay with yahoo groups for all the reasons you give. bw ----- Original Message ----- From: Rog Jones To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:11 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Changes in latitudes Hiya, gang - Now that a lot of us are here, we are hearing that Sailnet is coming back up and that some are going to continue to post to or at least lurk there or on SailJazz or both. Seems we ought to decide where the group is going to hang out as a primary "home port" so that we can all consistently share information and ask questions about our boats, activities and ideas. The concern is that if you have to follow three or four lists (counting Sailboatowners), it is just too much trouble and some of us will simply drop out or hit the delete key. Personally, I advocate for Yahoo, despite having a warm place in my heart for the work that the Boyles did on Sailnet and SailJazz. They are good technical people, but I am not impressed with their business and people savvy. The Yahoo site seems to have a more user-friendly interface - when I was in the software business, we called it a "seductive" interface. It allows people to post pictures more easily and to manipulate the photos and information (see the files folder) related to their own boats. It also is free, meaning that there is no financial bar to new members. Also, Yahoo is less likely to make changes without asking and doing solid market research - Yahoo Groups has been around for a long time, now, and is very stable. This stability means that we will have continuity and not constantly be in danger of losing important information like that posted to the SailJazz and Sailnet ftp servers. As a footnote, it will be interesting to see if Sailnet restores the ftp data we had placed there. If it does, I plan to copy it all to another server as a backup. (Note to Tom Tilley: do you have a copy of the data we moved from Sailnet to SailJazz?) Some of the information on the ftp servers is probably gone forever. That concerns me, because the content belongs to the original posters, not to SailJazz or Sailnet. Many of the original posters are not around anymore or don't even own Cals. But their information is useful, particularly, that from Brian Cleverly. So we need to find a way to archive and protect all of the ftp info. I may have a line on another secretly made copy of the ftp files shortly before Sailnet folded. Anyway, please chime in and add your thoughts. It would be nice for us to come to a decision here and then stick with it. I will go with the consensus, but only with one site. \Rog SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In response to Rog's email, I'll continue to lurk on SailJazz, but I won't pay for a membership. Our ftp files are gone from Sailnet, but they're still on SailJazz, and I'm downloading as many as I can and will put them on a CD. I hope someone else will do the same. Perhaps they can be restored at Yahoo. Maybe Bob Walden has some thoughts. In the end, I think we should go to Yahoo for our listserve. Jim Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: Rog Jones To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:11 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Changes in latitudes Hiya, gang - Now that a lot of us are here, we are hearing that Sailnet is coming back up and that some are going to continue to post to or at least lurk there or on SailJazz or both. Seems we ought to decide where the group is going to hang out as a primary "home port" so that we can all consistently share information and ask questions about our boats, activities and ideas. The concern is that if you have to follow three or four lists (counting Sailboatowners), it is just too much trouble and some of us will simply drop out or hit the delete key. Personally, I advocate for Yahoo, despite having a warm place in my heart for the work that the Boyles did on Sailnet and SailJazz. They are good technical people, but I am not impressed with their business and people savvy. The Yahoo site seems to have a more user-friendly interface - when I was in the software business, we called it a "seductive" interface. It allows people to post pictures more easily and to manipulate the photos and information (see the files folder) related to their own boats. It also is free, meaning that there is no financial bar to new members. Also, Yahoo is less likely to make changes without asking and doing solid market research - Yahoo Groups has been around for a long time, now, and is very stable. This stability means that we will have continuity and not constantly be in danger of losing important information like that posted to the SailJazz and Sailnet ftp servers. As a footnote, it will be interesting to see if Sailnet restores the ftp data we had placed there. If it does, I plan to copy it all to another server as a backup. (Note to Tom Tilley: do you have a copy of the data we moved from Sailnet to SailJazz?) Some of the information on the ftp servers is probably gone forever. That concerns me, because the content belongs to the original posters, not to SailJazz or Sailnet. Many of the original posters are not around anymore or don't even own Cals. But their information is useful, particularly, that from Brian Cleverly. So we need to find a way to archive and protect all of the ftp info. I may have a line on another secretly made copy of the ftp files shortly before Sailnet folded. Anyway, please chime in and add your thoughts. It would be nice for us to come to a decision here and then stick with it. I will go with the consensus, but only with one site. \Rog SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I second you Rog.....at some point Sailjazz or Sailnet will start to charge or sell out, no matter what they say. I vote for Yahoo. Carolyn Irvine CAL Tip'n 1821 Annapolis, MD Rog Jones <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> wrote: Hiya, gang – Now that a lot of us are here, we are hearing that Sailnet is coming back up and that some are going to continue to post to or at least lurk there or on SailJazz or both. Seems we ought to decide where the group is going to hang out as a primary “home port” so that we can all consistently share information and ask questions about our boats, activities and ideas. The concern is that if you have to follow three or four lists (counting Sailboatowners), it is just too much trouble and some of us will simply drop out or hit the delete key. Personally, I advocate for Yahoo, despite having a warm place in my heart for the work that the Boyles did on Sailnet and SailJazz. They are good technical people, but I am not impressed with their business and people savvy. The Yahoo site seems to have a more user-friendly interface – when I was in the software business, we called it a “seductive” interface. It allows people to post pictures more easily and to manipulate the photos and information (see the files folder) related to their own boats. It also is free, meaning that there is no financial bar to new members. Also, Yahoo is less likely to make changes without asking and doing solid market research – Yahoo Groups has been around for a long time, now, and is very stable. This stability means that we will have continuity and not constantly be in danger of losing important information like that posted to the SailJazz and Sailnet ftp servers. As a footnote, it will be interesting to see if Sailnet restores the ftp data we had placed there. If it does, I plan to copy it all to another server as a backup. (Note to Tom Tilley: do you have a copy of the data we moved from Sailnet to SailJazz?) Some of the information on the ftp servers is probably gone forever. That concerns me, because the content belongs to the original posters, not to SailJazz or Sailnet. Many of the original posters are not around anymore or don’t even own Cals. But their information is useful, particularly, that from Brian Cleverly. So we need to find a way to archive and protect all of the ftp info. I may have a line on another secretly made copy of the ftp files shortly before Sailnet folded. Anyway, please chime in and add your thoughts. It would be nice for us to come to a decision here and then stick with it. I will go with the consensus, but only with one site. \Rog SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- ******************* Carolyn Nolan Irvine cn… [at] yahoo.com Genealogist Dig Graves --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Thanks for taking your time to grab those files, Jim. It would be terrible to lose all that information. Much of the brochure information is impossible to recreate. Can anyone else who has the time make an effort to download and store the ftp data from SailJazz? Then possibly we can get you all to put it back up on Yahoo in the photos and files sections. Thanks to everyone who is participating in this archival effort. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet

Rog - You've done a great job of articulating all of the reasons to stay with Yahoo. I agree, let's stay with Yahoo. Kevin From: Rog Jones <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 07:11:47 -0800 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Changes in latitudes Hiya, gang - Now that a lot of us are here, we are hearing that Sailnet is coming back up and that some are going to continue to post to or at least lurk there or on SailJazz or both. Seems we ought to decide where the group is going to hang out as a primary "home port" so that we can all consistently share information and ask questions about our boats, activities and ideas. The concern is that if you have to follow three or four lists (counting Sailboatowners), it is just too much trouble and some of us will simply drop out or hit the delete key. Personally, I advocate for Yahoo, despite having a warm place in my heart for the work that the Boyles did on Sailnet and SailJazz. They are good technical people, but I am not impressed with their business and people savvy. The Yahoo site seems to have a more user-friendly interface - when I was in the software business, we called it a "seductive" interface. It allows people to post pictures more easily and to manipulate the photos and information (see the files folder) related to their own boats. It also is free, meaning that there is no financial bar to new members. Also, Yahoo is less likely to make changes without asking and doing solid market research - Yahoo Groups has been around for a long time, now, and is very stable. This stability means that we will have continuity and not constantly be in danger of losing important information like that posted to the SailJazz and Sailnet ftp servers. As a footnote, it will be interesting to see if Sailnet restores the ftp data we had placed there. If it does, I plan to copy it all to another server as a backup. (Note to Tom Tilley: do you have a copy of the data we moved from Sailnet to SailJazz?) Some of the information on the ftp servers is probably gone forever. That concerns me, because the content belongs to the original posters, not to SailJazz or Sailnet. Many of the original posters are not around anymore or don't even own Cals. But their information is useful, particularly, that from Brian Cleverly. So we need to find a way to archive and protect all of the ftp info. I may have a line on another secretly made copy of the ftp files shortly before Sailnet folded. Anyway, please chime in and add your thoughts. It would be nice for us to come to a decision here and then stick with it. I will go with the consensus, but only with one site. \Rog SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

I vote for Yahoo as well Bob Andrew CAL 39 NEREID From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Jones Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:12 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Changes in latitudes Hiya, gang - Now that a lot of us are here, we are hearing that Sailnet is coming back up and that some are going to continue to post to or at least lurk there or on SailJazz or both. Seems we ought to decide where the group is going to hang out as a primary "home port" so that we can all consistently share information and ask questions about our boats, activities and ideas. The concern is that if you have to follow three or four lists (counting Sailboatowners), it is just too much trouble and some of us will simply drop out or hit the delete key. Personally, I advocate for Yahoo, despite having a warm place in my heart for the work that the Boyles did on Sailnet and SailJazz. They are good technical people, but I am not impressed with their business and people savvy. The Yahoo site seems to have a more user-friendly interface - when I was in the software business, we called it a "seductive" interface. It allows people to post pictures more easily and to manipulate the photos and information (see the files folder) related to their own boats. It also is free, meaning that there is no financial bar to new members. Also, Yahoo is less likely to make changes without asking and doing solid market research - Yahoo Groups has been around for a long time, now, and is very stable. This stability means that we will have continuity and not constantly be in danger of losing important information like that posted to the SailJazz and Sailnet ftp servers. As a footnote, it will be interesting to see if Sailnet restores the ftp data we had placed there. If it does, I plan to copy it all to another server as a backup. (Note to Tom Tilley: do you have a copy of the data we moved from Sailnet to SailJazz?) Some of the information on the ftp servers is probably gone forever. That concerns me, because the content belongs to the original posters, not to SailJazz or Sailnet. Many of the original posters are not around anymore or don't even own Cals. But their information is useful, particularly, that from Brian Cleverly. So we need to find a way to archive and protect all of the ftp info. I may have a line on another secretly made copy of the ftp files shortly before Sailnet folded. Anyway, please chime in and add your thoughts. It would be nice for us to come to a decision here and then stick with it. I will go with the consensus, but only with one site. \Rog SPONSORED LINKS Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=S ailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> sailing Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sail ing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> boat Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____

Rog Jones wrote: > Hi, Reg - > > > > www.frappr.com/calboats <http://www.frappr.com/calboats> > > > > Be sure to add your boat. > > > Yesterday when I clicked on this, it told me there was no Calboats page. Today it's there, so I've added my action photo of Cal 20 #1220, "Martha C," taken from the schooner "Madeline" in Grand Traverse Bay. Chris Campbell

Rog Jones wrote: > Hiya, gang - > > > > Now that a lot of us are here, we are hearing that Sailnet is coming > back up and that some are going to continue to post to or at least > lurk there or on SailJazz or both. > > > > Seems we ought to decide where the group is going to hang out as a > primary "home port" so that we can all consistently share information > and ask questions about our boats, activities and ideas. The concern > is that if you have to follow three or four lists (counting > Sailboatowners), it is just too much trouble and some of us will > simply drop out or hit the delete key. > > > > Personally, I advocate for Yahoo, despite having a warm place in my > heart for the work that the Boyles did on Sailnet and SailJazz. They > are good technical people, but I am not impressed with their business > and people savvy. > > > > I agree about Yahoo. I'm on another Yahoo group list and it functions very well, allowing for easy exchange of information and genrating inquiries from new people all the time. Actually, I'm on several Yahoo groups and they all work that way. There's the occasional minor annoyance of ads but I tolerate that, being good with the delete key & the mouse. It's important to focus on one site for this, so we all have the benefit of a wide range of questions, information, advice, and knowledge. Chris Campbell

whoever posted the first link had a period behind it.... didnt work for me until I figured that one out. Eric Jackson BAREFOOT 1971 CAL 29 #316 Channel Islands CA On Nov 2, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Chris Campbell wrote: > > > Rog Jones wrote: >> Hi, Reg – >> >> >> >> www.frappr.com/calboats >> >> >> >> Be sure to add your boat. >> >> > Yesterday when I clicked on this, it told me there was no Calboats > page. Today it's there, so I've added my action photo of Cal 20 > #1220, "Martha C," taken from the schooner "Madeline" in Grand > Traverse Bay. > > Chris Campbell > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing > Boating > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >

I feel safe with the swiss navy around. I'll stay too.JM --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Rog Jones" <rog@n...> wrote: > > Hiya, gang - > > > > Now that a lot of us are here, we are hearing that Sailnet is coming back up > and that some are going to continue to post to or at least lurk there or on > SailJazz or both. > > > > Seems we ought to decide where the group is going to hang out as a primary > "home port" so that we can all consistently share information and ask > questions about our boats, activities and ideas. The concern is that if you > have to follow three or four lists (counting Sailboatowners), it is just too > much trouble and some of us will simply drop out or hit the delete key. > > > > Personally, I advocate for Yahoo, despite having a warm place in my heart > for the work that the Boyles did on Sailnet and SailJazz. They are good > technical people, but I am not impressed with their business and people > savvy. > > > > The Yahoo site seems to have a more user-friendly interface - when I was in > the software business, we called it a "seductive" interface. It allows > people to post pictures more easily and to manipulate the photos and > information (see the files folder) related to their own boats. It also is > free, meaning that there is no financial bar to new members. Also, Yahoo is > less likely to make changes without asking and doing solid market research - > Yahoo Groups has been around for a long time, now, and is very stable. This > stability means that we will have continuity and not constantly be in danger > of losing important information like that posted to the SailJazz and Sailnet > ftp servers. As a footnote, it will be interesting to see if Sailnet > restores the ftp data we had placed there. If it does, I plan to copy it all > to another server as a backup. (Note to Tom Tilley: do you have a copy of > the data we moved from Sailnet to SailJazz?) > > > > Some of the information on the ftp servers is probably gone forever. That > concerns me, because the content belongs to the original posters, not to > SailJazz or Sailnet. Many of the original posters are not around anymore or > don't even own Cals. But their information is useful, particularly, that > from Brian Cleverly. So we need to find a way to archive and protect all of > the ftp info. I may have a line on another secretly made copy of the ftp > files shortly before Sailnet folded. > > > > Anyway, please chime in and add your thoughts. It would be nice for us to > come to a decision here and then stick with it. I will go with the > consensus, but only with one site. > > > > \Rog >

Rog/ The Sailjazz ftp files were backed up immediately when I became aware of the pending move and I had been taking regular downloads/updates of the site just to make sure that we didn't lose everything if a calamity struck again. There has been a LOT of content added since the backup of the Sailnet files. TomT 1982 Cal 9.2 "Lenochka" Hull #53 San Mateo, CA Rog Jones <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> wrote: Hiya, gang – Now that a lot of us are here, we are hearing that Sailnet is coming back up and that some are going to continue to post to or at least lurk there or on SailJazz or both. Seems we ought to decide where the group is going to hang out as a primary “home port” so that we can all consistently share information and ask questions about our boats, activities and ideas. The concern is that if you have to follow three or four lists (counting Sailboatowners), it is just too much trouble and some of us will simply drop out or hit the delete key. Personally, I advocate for Yahoo, despite having a warm place in my heart for the work that the Boyles did on Sailnet and SailJazz. They are good technical people, but I am not impressed with their business and people savvy. The Yahoo site seems to have a more user-friendly interface – when I was in the software business, we called it a “seductive” interface. It allows people to post pictures more easily and to manipulate the photos and information (see the files folder) related to their own boats. It also is free, meaning that there is no financial bar to new members. Also, Yahoo is less likely to make changes without asking and doing solid market research – Yahoo Groups has been around for a long time, now, and is very stable. This stability means that we will have continuity and not constantly be in danger of losing important information like that posted to the SailJazz and Sailnet ftp servers. As a footnote, it will be interesting to see if Sailnet restores the ftp data we had placed there. If it does, I plan to copy it all to another server as a backup. (Note to Tom Tilley: do you have a copy of the data we moved from Sailnet to SailJazz?) Some of the information on the ftp servers is probably gone forever. That concerns me, because the content belongs to the original posters, not to SailJazz or Sailnet. Many of the original posters are not around anymore or don’t even own Cals. But their information is useful, particularly, that from Brian Cleverly. So we need to find a way to archive and protect all of the ftp info. I may have a line on another secretly made copy of the ftp files shortly before Sailnet folded. Anyway, please chime in and add your thoughts. It would be nice for us to come to a decision here and then stick with it. I will go with the consensus, but only with one site. \Rog SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Thanks, Tom - You are obviously prescient. Thanks to much for foreseeing this and taking responsible action!!! We all owe you big time. I am going to see if Ward Osborne (former listee) still has his server available as an ftp site. He offered it at no charge some time ago and it can't hurt to ask. If not, I'll try to find a server where we can permanently park the ftp system. If anyone else on this list knows of an available server at no cost, please let me and Tom Tilley know. Time we began protecting this valuable archive of information about our boats and about the people who make this list such a great family. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Tilley Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 2:57 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Changes in latitudes Rog/ The Sailjazz ftp files were backed up immediately when I became aware of the pending move and I had been taking regular downloads/updates of the site just to make sure that we didn't lose everything if a calamity struck again. There has been a LOT of content added since the backup of the Sailnet files. TomT 1982 Cal 9.2 "Lenochka" Hull #53 San Mateo, CA Rog Jones <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> wrote: Hiya, gang - Now that a lot of us are here, we are hearing that Sailnet is coming back up and that some are going to continue to post to or at least lurk there or on SailJazz or both. Seems we ought to decide where the group is going to hang out as a primary "home port" so that we can all consistently share information and ask questions about our boats, activities and ideas. The concern is that if you have to follow three or four lists (counting Sailboatowners), it is just too much trouble and some of us will simply drop out or hit the delete key. Personally, I advocate for Yahoo, despite having a warm place in my heart for the work that the Boyles did on Sailnet and SailJazz. They are good technical people, but I am not impressed with their business and people savvy. The Yahoo site seems to have a more user-friendly interface - when I was in the software business, we called it a "seductive" interface. It allows people to post pictures more easily and to manipulate the photos and information (see the files folder) related to their own boats. It also is free, meaning that there is no financial bar to new members. Also, Yahoo is less likely to make changes without asking and doing solid market research - Yahoo Groups has been around for a long time, now, and is very stable. This stability means that we will have continuity and not constantly be in danger of losing important information like that posted to the SailJazz and Sailnet ftp servers. As a footnote, it will be interesting to see if Sailnet restores the ftp data we had placed there. If it does, I plan to copy it all to another server as a backup. (Note to Tom Tilley: do you have a copy of the data we moved from Sailnet to SailJazz?) Some of the information on the ftp servers is probably gone forever. That concerns me, because the content belongs to the original posters, not to SailJazz or Sailnet. Many of the original posters are not around anymore or don't even own Cals. But their information is useful, particularly, that from Brian Cleverly. So we need to find a way to archive and protect all of the ftp info. I may have a line on another secretly made copy of the ftp files shortly before Sailnet folded. Anyway, please chime in and add your thoughts. It would be nice for us to come to a decision here and then stick with it. I will go with the consensus, but only with one site. \Rog _____ Yahoo! <http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFqODRtdXQ4BF9TAzMyOTc1MDIEX3MDOTY2ODgxNj kEcG9zAzEEc2VjA21haWwtZm9vdGVyBHNsawNmYw--/SIG=110oav78o/**http%3a/farechase .yahoo.com/> FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____

I vote to stay with yahoo. Rog Jones <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> wrote: Anyway, please chime in and add your thoughts. It would be nice for us to come to a decision here and then stick with it. I will go with the consensus, but only with one site. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

I vote Yahoo. I'm not about to pay for a subscription service.... --- steve honour <st… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > I vote to stay with yahoo. > > Rog Jones <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> wrote: > > > Anyway, please chime in and add your thoughts. It would be nice for us to come to a decision > here and then stick with it. I will go with the consensus, but only with one site. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Michael Duvall s/v Magic, Cal 2-27 Pompano Beach, FL Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

OK, Bob, I guess you are the lucky one! I, too added (unknowingly) a second photo of the pop-top up, and need it deleted. The map is a very cool idea... Thanks! Dave Leasia 1972 Cal 27 pop-top # 145 Candy Cane, Lk. St. Clair, MI --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Bob Walden" <bob@b...> wrote: > > I guess that's me, for now. It's a shame it won't let you edit or even > delete your own additions. Maybe that's coming. > > bw

done. First time I've seen a picture of the pop-top up with the canvas installed. I've had mine for 10 months and never raised it yet. One of these days... bw From: "telephone_dr" <te… [at] yahoo.com> To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map > OK, Bob, > > I guess you are the lucky one! I, too added (unknowingly) a second > photo of the pop-top up, and need it deleted. > The map is a very cool idea... > > Thanks! > Dave Leasia > 1972 Cal 27 pop-top # 145 > Candy Cane, Lk. St. Clair, MI > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Bob Walden" <bob@b...> wrote: > > > > I guess that's me, for now. It's a shame it won't let you edit or even > > delete your own additions. Maybe that's coming. > > > > bw > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks, Roger. I'm there! Look for the only one so far in MT! >From: "Rog Jones" <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map (Reggie G) >Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 06:50:45 -0800 > >Hi, Reg - > > > > www.frappr.com/calboats > > > >Be sure to add your boat. > > > >\Rog > > > >Cal 29+ #1 > >Swiss Navy > > > >Cal 2-30 #77 > >St. Lori's Comet > > > > > > _____ > >From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On >Behalf >Of r good >Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 9:36 PM >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map > > > >where did you find the map? >reggie > > > >From: "Bob Wood" <bo… [at] highstream.net> > >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > >To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map > >Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:40:13 -0500 > > > >and I'm 'on the map'...twice. Does anyone know how to remove a picture? > >Bob Wood > >C-33 Circe > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: kb… [at] aol.com > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal map > > > > > > Just put myself on the map as well. Very cool. > > > > Kevin > > Cal 2-34, "Asterix II" > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing > > Boating > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > >Service. > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- > > > > > > > > _____ > >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > >* Visit your group "Cal_Boats ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. > >* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com ><mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > >* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! ><http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. > > > > _____ >