RE: [Cal_Boats] CAL 35s, Anyone? (Dave)

Many thanks for the comprehensive response, Dave. I forwarded to Moe Giguere, who I met when he sailed his Chris Craft Apache 37 in the Good Old Boat Regatta here in Annapolis. I forwarded your offer of direct contact as well. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of biggs dave Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:28 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 35s, Anyone? Charlie, I've attached a Practical Sailor review of the Cal 35 which was pretty accurate. If it didn't make it through, I can e mail it directly. Some quick pros/cons from me Cons/things to check: - As you've see from the multiple headliner questions on the 35, they are all leaking at this point if the ports haven't been re-bedded or replaced. - The upper rudder bearing should be inspected. - The boat is narrow aft and tends to bury at speed. She has a very definite terminal velocity and doesn't like to surf. - Electrical panel location, if water every came in the companionway, this could be a problem - Dodger, the bridgedeck makes entry harder with a Dodger. But the bridgedeck also helps keep water out from down below if you get pooped. - Tender, the encapsulated keel is very solid but not the best for getting the keel weight low. The boat heavily depends on hull stability in a breeze. - Hurth 10 transmission. If it hasn't been replaced or rebuilt by now, it probably needs it. - &nb! sp; V berth egress is hard. Bunk too high - Dark interior. Some people like all the teak, not me (except for afternoon naps). - Poor Pointing ability. The thick encapsulated keel along with the single spreader rig (i.e. not the tightest sheeting angles for the jib) are culprits here. - Tight cockpit. The wheel steals a lot of space. Pros: - Tracks extremely well with a very neutral helm (easy on autopilot, sometimes tough for beginner helmsman because they can't feel what's going on) - Light air performance. For an old tank, I surprised at how well she! performs in winds under 10. - Stock engine, the Universal 5432 appears to be very robust. Mine has 3000+ and my yearly oil analysis indicates everything is great. - Bow anchor pulpit. It's a strong, nice dual anchor set u! p for a stock system. - Rock solid hull. My boat has 'fallen' off some tanker wakes that I thought would split her in two but she survived fine - Halyards. My rig has two main and two jib halyards along with a spinnaker halyard. This may be heavy but I love the redundancy. That's my two cents. It may sound harsh, but I've had her for 8 years and am still very happy every time I'm out with her whether it's blowing 5 or 35. So that must show that she has served me well. Tell your friend that he may e mail me directly if he has anymore questions. Dave 80 Cal 35 MkI, Running Late San Mateo, SF Bay Husar Charlie <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: Hi, All. I have a friend who is looking at getting a CAL 35 (1983). He was looking for info, and pros and cons on the boat. (Formal Introduction) Cheers Charlie Husar Annapolis, MD CAL 25 - 460 Fahrvergnügen CAL 25 - 1657 Chicken Little CAL 25 - 1845 Hasty CAL40 - 58 C-Hawk Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam! ? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> Sailing boat <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

You're always welcome! I was surprised to see a CC sailboat when I moved to the west coast back in the 80's. I always though that CC's were only power boats. From 67-71 my folks had a nice 1939 double planked hull 31' CC that we cruised out of Greenport Long Island and then later out of Bluepoint LI on the Great South Bay. Fortunately, one of my favorite gifts was a Sunfish in 73, and I've always preferred sailboat since. But I will certainly become a trawler guy at some point, GB32's work for me. Dave 80 Cal 35 MkI, Runnin Late San Mateo Husar Charlie <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: Many thanks for the comprehensive response, Dave. I forwarded to Moe Giguere, who I met when he sailed his Chris Craft Apache 37 in the Good Old Boat Regatta here in Annapolis. I forwarded your offer of direct contact as well. Cheers Charlie --------------------------------- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of biggs dave Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:28 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 35s, Anyone? Charlie, I’ve attached a Practical Sailor review of the Cal 35 which was pretty accurate. If it didn’t make it through, I can e mail it directly. Some quick pros/cons from me Cons/things to check: - As you’ve see from the multiple headliner questions on the 35, they are all leaking at this point if the ports haven’t been re-bedded or replaced. - The upper rudder bearing should be inspected. - The boat is narrow aft and tends to bury at speed. She has a very definite terminal velocity and doesn’t like to surf. - Electrical panel location, if water every came in the companionway, this could be a problem - Dodger, the bridgedeck makes entry harder with a Dodger. But the bridgedeck also helps keep water out from down below if you get pooped. - Tender, the encapsulated keel is very solid but not the best for getting the keel weight low. The boat heavily depends on hull stability in a breeze. - Hurth 10 transmission. If it hasn’t been replaced or rebuilt by now, it probably needs it. - &nb! sp; V berth egress is hard. Bunk too high - Dark interior. Some people like all the teak, not me (except for afternoon naps). - Poor Pointing ability. The thick encapsulated keel along with the single spreader rig (i.e. not the tightest sheeting angles for the jib) are culprits here. - Tight cockpit. The wheel steals a lot of space. Pros: - Tracks extremely well with a very neutral helm (easy on autopilot, sometimes tough for beginner helmsman because they can’t feel what’s going on) - Light air performance. For an old tank, I surprised at how well she! performs in winds under 10. - Stock engine, the Universal 5432 appears to be very robust. Mine has 3000+ and my yearly oil analysis indicates everything is great. - Bow anchor pulpit. It’s a strong, nice dual anchor set u! p for a stock system. - Rock solid hull. My boat has ‘fallen’ off some tanker wakes that I thought would split her in two but she survived fine - Halyards. My rig has two main and two jib halyards along with a spinnaker halyard. This may be heavy but I love the redundancy. That’s my two cents. It may sound harsh, but I've had her for 8 years and am still very happy every time I'm out with her whether it's blowing 5 or 35. So that must show that she has served me well. Tell your friend that he may e mail me directly if he has anymore questions. Dave 80 Cal 35 MkI, Running Late San Mateo, SF Bay Husar Charlie <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: Hi, All. I have a friend who is looking at getting a CAL 35 (1983). He was looking for info, and pros and cons on the boat. (Formal Introduction) Cheers Charlie Husar Annapolis, MD CAL 25 - 460 Fahrvergnügen CAL 25 - 1657 Chicken Little CAL 25 - 1845 Hasty CAL40 - 58 C-Hawk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam! ? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping

Wow, I was race crew on a Chris Craft Apache 37 back in the seventies, and did my first ocean thing in it - Annapolis Newport Race. Running backstays and all, named Chanticleer ( or as the owners called it, the Big Cock.) Could even be the same boat, for all we know. John Dawson Kefi, Balto. Husar Charlie <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: Many thanks for the comprehensive response, Dave. I forwarded to Moe Giguere, who I met when he sailed his Chris Craft Apache 37 in the Good Old Boat Regatta here in Annapolis. I forwarded your offer of direct contact as well. Cheers Charlie --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping