Lapworth 50, Dielectic suggestion.

Regarding the Lapworth 50, we had one at he Spring CCCCC, and yes, typical Lapworth underbody, I know because I dove hunder her bottom. Just like the Cal 40. Try silicone grease as a dielectric, it is used to lube rubber seals in swim pool valves, it doesn't come off even under hi velocity flow in chemical ladened pool water filter systems. My stainless fitting to mast connection showed now corrosion after four years when I removed the whisker pole ring to repaint the mast. Jerry Sobel. Shpritz. Cal 24 PS, I'm looking at a very nice Cal 28 on Ebay. Any opinions about the boat? It's a '65 flat top, suitable for carrier ops. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 4:18:18 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Digest Number 56 There are 17 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. CAL 35s, Anyone? From: "Husar Charlie" <hu… [at] bah.com> 2. RE: Well, I'm Here (Chas) From: pat pat <et… [at] yahoo.com> 3. Re: CAL 35s, Anyone? From: biggs dave <im… [at] yahoo.com> 4. Re: Well, I'm Here (Chas) From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> 5. List Message Protocols From: "Rog Jones" <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> 6. Merry Christmas From: Chris Collins <ch… [at] vanderbilt.edu> 7. RE: CAL 35s, Anyone? (Dave) From: "Husar Charlie" <hu… [at] bah.com> 8. Lapworth 50 From: "mtkennedy1" <mt… [at] cox.net> 9. Lapworth 50 From: "mtkennedy1" <mt… [at] cox.net> 10. Re: Lapworth 50 From: "Fin Beven" <fi… [at] msn.com> 11. Re: Lapworth 50 From: "Fin Beven" <fi… [at] msn.com> 12. double post From: "mtkennedy1" <mt… [at] cox.net> 13. Any word from Janet Plume lately? From: "Rog Jones" <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> 14. A bit off-subject... K-38's From: "Fin Beven" <fi… [at] msn.com> 15. RE: CAL 35s, Anyone? (Charlie) From: biggs dave <im… [at] yahoo.com> 16. Nice photos From: "brad destache" <19… [at] sbcglobal.net> 17. Good old memories From: John Dawson <jd… [at] yahoo.com> Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:21:02 -0500 From: "Husar Charlie" <hu… [at] bah.com> Subject: CAL 35s, Anyone? Hi, All. I have a friend who is looking at getting a CAL 35 (1983). He was looking for info, and pros and cons on the boat. (Formal Introduction) Cheers Charlie Husar Annapolis, MD CAL 25 - 460 Fahrvergnügen CAL 25 - 1657 Chicken Little CAL 25 - 1845 Hasty CAL40 - 58 C-Hawk Message: 2 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 06:04:06 -0800 (PST) From: pat pat <et… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Well, I'm Here (Chas) 6061-T6 Husar Charlie <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } @font-face { } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; } P.MsoNormal { Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } P.MsoAutoSig { COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } LI.MsoAutoSig { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.MsoAutoSig { COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } TT { Courier New" } SPAN.EmailStyle19 { COLOR: navy; mso-style-type: personal-reply } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } OL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in } UL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in } Rog, dEmO recently asked me where the group went. I did the sign-up so I could let him know. Timmo, here we are. I guess the return of SailNet didn't catch on. By the way, there is a compression tube between the spreader brackets on a CAL 25 (on one bolt that goes all the way through mast). It is always destroyed after a while due to - what else - compression. I was wondering what the right metal would be (or correct grade of aluminum) for the part. It is approx 3/8" ID, 5/8" OD, and about 3.5" long. Cheers Charlie - AKA Girdlefanny Poopsibuns Guess it'll take the new troops a while to get used to this. --------------------------------- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Jones Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:22 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Well, I'm Here (Chas) Hes baaaack! Chas, glad to see you on the list! We need your warped sense of humor. Wheres dEmO, I wonder? \Rog SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [This message contained attachments] Message: 3 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:28:00 -0800 (PST) From: biggs dave <im… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: CAL 35s, Anyone? Charlie, Ive attached a Practical Sailor review of the Cal 35 which was pretty accurate. If it didnt make it through, I can e mail it directly. Some quick pros/cons from me Cons/things to check: - As youve see from the multiple headliner questions on the 35, they are all leaking at this point if the ports havent been re-bedded or replaced. - The upper rudder bearing should be inspected. - The boat is narrow aft and tends to bury at speed. She has a very definite terminal velocity and doesnt like to surf. - Electrical panel location, if water every came in the companionway, this could be a problem - Dodger, the bridgedeck makes entry harder with a Dodger. But the bridgedeck also helps keep water out from down below if you get pooped. - Tender, the encapsulated keel is very solid but not the best for getting the keel weight low. The boat heavily depends on hull stability in a breeze. - Hurth 10 transmission. If it hasnt been replaced or rebuilt by now, it probably needs it. - V berth egress is hard. Bunk too high - Dark interior. Some people like all the teak, not me (except for afternoon naps). - Poor Pointing ability. The thick encapsulated keel along with the single spreader rig (i.e. not the tightest sheeting angles for the jib) are culprits here. - Tight cockpit. The wheel steals a lot of space. Pros: - Tracks extremely well with a very neutral helm (easy on autopilot, sometimes tough for beginner helmsman because they cant feel whats going on) - Light air performance. For an old tank, I surprised at how well she performs in winds under 10. - Stock engine, the Universal 5432 appears to be very robust. Mine has 3000+ and my yearly oil analysis indicates everything is great. - Bow anchor pulpit. Its a strong, nice dual anchor set up for a stock system. - Rock solid hull. My boat has fallen off some tanker wakes that I thought would split her in two but she survived fine - Halyards. My rig has two main and two jib halyards along with a spinnaker halyard. This may be heavy but I love the redundancy. Thats my two cents. It may sound harsh, but I've had her for 8 years and am still very happy every time I'm out with her whether it's blowing 5 or 35. So that must show that she has served me well. Tell your friend that he may e mail me directly if he has anymore questions. Dave 80 Cal 35 MkI, Running Late San Mateo, SF Bay Husar Charlie <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: Hi, All. I have a friend who is looking at getting a CAL 35 (1983). He was looking for info, and pros and cons on the boat. (Formal Introduction) Cheers Charlie Husar Annapolis, MD CAL 25 - 460 Fahrvergnügen CAL 25 - 1657 Chicken Little CAL 25 - 1845 Hasty CAL40 - 58 C-Hawk SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [This message contained attachments] Message: 4 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:03:46 -0500 From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> Subject: Re: Well, I'm Here (Chas) Husar Charlie wrote: > By the way, there is a compression tube between the spreader brackets > on a CAL 25 (on one bolt that goes all the way through mast). It is > always destroyed after a while due to - what else - compression. I > was wondering what the right metal would be (or correct grade of > aluminum) for the part. It is approx 3/8" ID, 5/8" OD, and about 3.5" > long. > Two comments: First, the most insidious agent of destruction is corrrosion of the dissimilar metals aluminum and stainless steel, at least on my little Cal 20. When I replaced mine as part of the spreader-bracket upgrade, I had no suitable dielectric goo available, so I used grease in hopes that it would keep moisture out and also insulate the metals from each other somewhat. There was a little bit of compression distortion on the old tube, but not much. Maybe you need to be a bit less macho on the wrench when tightening the bolt? Second, I wouldn't be too "approximate" on the OD if you want the new one to fit. If you cart the new one out to the boat and find it won't go in and you left the rattail file at home and you need to install the thing right now, RIGHT NOW, then you'll hear approximately the same language as I let loose with last night when I dropped the soup can full of varnish on the shop floor. It was not edifying. Chris Campbell [This message contained attachments] Message: 5 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 09:31:00 -0800 From: "Rog Jones" <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> Subject: List Message Protocols Hi, Gang - Please take a minute to read the little missive below, sent years ago when this list was on the original Sailnet. It was sent by our erstwhile former list member, Brian Cleverly, and is intended to help us all find stuff later on. Please take it to heart. It isn't criticism, just etiquette that makes "list life" better for everybody. Thanks to everyone who adds to this great list and to the knowledge from which all of us can benefit. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet I see it is time to once again remind all of you (yeah, you oldies toooo) about updating the subject line when replying to messages. As you know, we often have multiple replies to the original posting, and then we have replies to the replies. As we have found out in the past, it makes everything much easier to track if you do two (simple) things when replying: 1. When replying to any message, please place the name of the author of the message your are replying to, at the end of the subject line, in parenthesis. For example, if Joe Domino sends a message with a subject of "help me I'm sinking", when you reply you add (Joe) to the end of the subject line. [Cal] Re: help me I'm sinking (Joe) If Timm sends a reply to Joe and you are replying to Timm's reply, place (Timm) at the end of the subject line. [Cal] Re: help me I'm sinking (Timm) When this is done, everyone knows immediately what part of the thread you are actually replying to. 2. As if often the case, we "sometimes" (Hehehe) divert away from the original subject within a thread... Please, please, when this happens make the diversion known by also changing the subject line. For example: Bill sends a message re mast step leaks, and one way or another this leads to a discussion on caulking... The first person (use me as an example) who leads away from the original thread should change the subject line with reference to the original, something like: Deck Caulking, was [Cal} Re: Mast Step (Bill) I know the above are just additional stress for you to remember, but believe me it makes it easier for all concerned if they are adhered to. Oh, and please sign your messages so we know who you are, or at least setup your email preferences so your name appears in the message header. Thanks for your time and enjoy this, the A1, list on the 'Net. BC [This message contained attachments] Message: 6 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:43:51 -0600 From: Chris Collins <ch… [at] vanderbilt.edu> Subject: Merry Christmas I'm off to the in-laws in beautiful Chattanooga, TN for the holiday. Just wanted to wish everyone a very merry Christmas and, of course, an excellent and prosperous new year. I love this list! Chris [This message contained attachments] Message: 7 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:39:48 -0500 From: "Husar Charlie" <hu… [at] bah.com> Subject: RE: CAL 35s, Anyone? (Dave) Many thanks for the comprehensive response, Dave. I forwarded to Moe Giguere, who I met when he sailed his Chris Craft Apache 37 in the Good Old Boat Regatta here in Annapolis. I forwarded your offer of direct contact as well. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of biggs dave Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:28 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 35s, Anyone? Charlie, I've attached a Practical Sailor review of the Cal 35 which was pretty accurate. If it didn't make it through, I can e mail it directly. Some quick pros/cons from me Cons/things to check: - As you've see from the multiple headliner questions on the 35, they are all leaking at this point if the ports haven't been re-bedded or replaced. - The upper rudder bearing should be inspected. - The boat is narrow aft and tends to bury at speed. She has a very definite terminal velocity and doesn't like to surf. - Electrical panel location, if water every came in the companionway, this could be a problem - Dodger, the bridgedeck makes entry harder with a Dodger. But the bridgedeck also helps keep water out from down below if you get pooped. - Tender, the encapsulated keel is very solid but not the best for getting the keel weight low. The boat heavily depends on hull stability in a breeze. - Hurth 10 transmission. If it hasn't been replaced or rebuilt by now, it probably needs it. - &nb! sp; V berth egress is hard. Bunk too high - Dark interior. Some people like all the teak, not me (except for afternoon naps). - Poor Pointing ability. The thick encapsulated keel along with the single spreader rig (i.e. not the tightest sheeting angles for the jib) are culprits here. - Tight cockpit. The wheel steals a lot of space. Pros: - Tracks extremely well with a very neutral helm (easy on autopilot, sometimes tough for beginner helmsman because they can't feel what's going on) - Light air performance. For an old tank, I surprised at how well she! performs in winds under 10. - Stock engine, the Universal 5432 appears to be very robust. Mine has 3000+ and my yearly oil analysis indicates everything is great. - Bow anchor pulpit. It's a strong, nice dual anchor set u! p for a stock system. - Rock solid hull. My boat has 'fallen' off some tanker wakes that I thought would split her in two but she survived fine - Halyards. My rig has two main and two jib halyards along with a spinnaker halyard. This may be heavy but I love the redundancy. That's my two cents. It may sound harsh, but I've had her for 8 years and am still very happy every time I'm out with her whether it's blowing 5 or 35. So that must show that she has served me well. Tell your friend that he may e mail me directly if he has anymore questions. Dave 80 Cal 35 MkI, Running Late San Mateo, SF Bay Husar Charlie <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: Hi, All. I have a friend who is looking at getting a CAL 35 (1983). He was looking for info, and pros and cons on the boat. (Formal Introduction) Cheers Charlie Husar Annapolis, MD CAL 25 - 460 Fahrvergnügen CAL 25 - 1657 Chicken Little CAL 25 - 1845 Hasty CAL40 - 58 C-Hawk Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam! ? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> Sailing boat <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [This message contained attachments] Message: 8 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:41:07 -0000 From: "mtkennedy1" <mt… [at] cox.net> Subject: Lapworth 50 After the mention of the Lapworth 50 the other day, and with a slow day at the office, I poked around and came up with these pictures of Al Martin's L 50, Sumatra. This is a half-model and I'm not sure if it is the present owner or Al who commissioned the model. It is striking that these boats did indeed have fin keels and spade rudders. I thought they were of the same vintage as Nalu II, which was attached rudder. I had always read that the Cal 28 and Cal 40 were the first designs with spade rudder. I think the L 50 goes back to 1962. Fin might know more. Apparently, some of the later ones were glass hulls if the comments are accurate. Maybe thyat's the Choy Lee model. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 Message: 9 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:48:19 -0000 From: "mtkennedy1" <mt… [at] cox.net> Subject: Lapworth 50 After the discussion the other day about the L 50, and with a slow day at the office, I poked around and came up with this. http://www.todddunnmicroyachts.com/lapworth50.html THis is a half-model of Al Martin's L 50 Sumatra. The model was made this year and I don't have any more info on where it is now. It is interesting that it shows a fin keel and spade rudder. This boat was designed well before the Cal 40 and 28, which I though were the first Lapworth designs to have separated rudders. Nalu II, a design about 1956, had an attached rudder and I thought the L 50 was a similar type. Anyway, maybe someone else knows more about the L 50. The text with the photos also mentions that some had glass hulls. Maybe that was the Choy Lee model. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 Message: 10 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:04:50 -0800 From: "Fin Beven" <fi… [at] msn.com> Subject: Re: Lapworth 50 Retro-fitting with spade rudders was rather common in the early 60's. I don't remember with certainty, but based even in part on George Griffith's assertion that it was he who persuaded Lapworth to draw the '40 with a spade rudder, I'd bet that these were retro-fits. The same "fix" was common in the K-40 class, such that by the time the K-43 came out, I believe that most (if not all) were built with spade rudders. Nalu II (with the live chickens) must have been built around 1955. I believe that the first L-50, Ichiban, was launced in 1960. If any were built of fiberglass, I would be greatly surprised. The wooden boats were built at Choy Lee. Fin. ----- Original Message ----- From: mtkennedy1<mailto:mt… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Lapworth 50 After the mention of the Lapworth 50 the other day, and with a slow day at the office, I poked around and came up with these pictures of Al Martin's L 50, Sumatra. This is a half-model and I'm not sure if it is the present owner or Al who commissioned the model. It is striking that these boats did indeed have fin keels and spade rudders. I thought they were of the same vintage as Nalu II, which was attached rudder. I had always read that the Cal 28 and Cal 40 were the first designs with spade rudder. I think the L 50 goes back to 1962. Fin might know more. Apparently, some of the later ones were glass hulls if the comments are accurate. Maybe thyat's the Choy Lee model. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats>"; on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [This message contained attachments] Message: 11 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:10:39 -0800 From: "Fin Beven" <fi… [at] msn.com> Subject: Re: Lapworth 50 Looking at that rudder, it almost looks like the stuck a modified Cal-40 or Cal-48 rudder on there. And I don't believe that the swept-back keel is original. I believe that when the trailing, attached rudder was removed, the keel would have looked about like ours. Fin ----- Original Message ----- From: mtkennedy1<mailto:mt… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:48 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Lapworth 50 After the discussion the other day about the L 50, and with a slow day at the office, I poked around and came up with this. http://www.todddunnmicroyachts.com/lapworth50.html<http://www.todddunnmicroyachts.com/lapworth50.html> THis is a half-model of Al Martin's L 50 Sumatra. The model was made this year and I don't have any more info on where it is now. It is interesting that it shows a fin keel and spade rudder. This boat was designed well before the Cal 40 and 28, which I though were the first Lapworth designs to have separated rudders. Nalu II, a design about 1956, had an attached rudder and I thought the L 50 was a similar type. Anyway, maybe someone else knows more about the L 50. The text with the photos also mentions that some had glass hulls. 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Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 Message: 13 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:20:52 -0800 From: "Rog Jones" <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> Subject: Any word from Janet Plume lately? Has anyone heard anything from list member Janet Plume? Just wondering how she is doing and what happened with her boat. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet [This message contained attachments] Message: 14 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:49:35 -0800 From: "Fin Beven" <fi… [at] msn.com> Subject: A bit off-subject... K-38's K-38's. It was the old California Yacht Anchorage on 22nd street. The first boat in the row was a varnished hull, and belonged to the owner of the marina. The second was Peggy Slater's Valentine. There must have been at least 10 on the north side of that row. It was a beautiful sight. ----- Original Message ----- From: mtkennedy1<mailto:mt… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] double post I thought I had cancelled the first post when I discovered that I had lost the link. I would think it a big job to change the keel on a wood hull. The ones I've seen had a lead shoe at the bottom but not a whole bolted on keel. I was not much involved the anything bigger than dinghys until 1967 or 8 so what do I know. I can remember walking down a dock in Wilmington about 1957 and seeing entire marinas full of K 38s. I wonder where they all went ? 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Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [This message contained attachments] Message: 15 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:27:12 -0800 (PST) From: biggs dave <im… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: RE: CAL 35s, Anyone? (Charlie) You're always welcome! I was surprised to see a CC sailboat when I moved to the west coast back in the 80's. I always though that CC's were only power boats. From 67-71 my folks had a nice 1939 double planked hull 31' CC that we cruised out of Greenport Long Island and then later out of Bluepoint LI on the Great South Bay. Fortunately, one of my favorite gifts was a Sunfish in 73, and I've always preferred sailboat since. But I will certainly become a trawler guy at some point, GB32's work for me. Dave 80 Cal 35 MkI, Runnin Late San Mateo Husar Charlie <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: Many thanks for the comprehensive response, Dave. I forwarded to Moe Giguere, who I met when he sailed his Chris Craft Apache 37 in the Good Old Boat Regatta here in Annapolis. I forwarded your offer of direct contact as well. Cheers Charlie --------------------------------- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of biggs dave Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 10:28 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 35s, Anyone? Charlie, Ive attached a Practical Sailor review of the Cal 35 which was pretty accurate. If it didnt make it through, I can e mail it directly. Some quick pros/cons from me Cons/things to check: - As youve see from the multiple headliner questions on the 35, they are all leaking at this point if the ports havent been re-bedded or replaced. - The upper rudder bearing should be inspected. - The boat is narrow aft and tends to bury at speed. She has a very definite terminal velocity and doesnt like to surf. - Electrical panel location, if water every came in the companionway, this could be a problem - Dodger, the bridgedeck makes entry harder with a Dodger. But the bridgedeck also helps keep water out from down below if you get pooped. - Tender, the encapsulated keel is very solid but not the best for getting the keel weight low. The boat heavily depends on hull stability in a breeze. - Hurth 10 transmission. If it hasnt been replaced or rebuilt by now, it probably needs it. - &nb! sp; V berth egress is hard. Bunk too high - Dark interior. Some people like all the teak, not me (except for afternoon naps). - Poor Pointing ability. The thick encapsulated keel along with the single spreader rig (i.e. not the tightest sheeting angles for the jib) are culprits here. - Tight cockpit. The wheel steals a lot of space. Pros: - Tracks extremely well with a very neutral helm (easy on autopilot, sometimes tough for beginner helmsman because they cant feel whats going on) - Light air performance. For an old tank, I surprised at how well she! performs in winds under 10. - Stock engine, the Universal 5432 appears to be very robust. Mine has 3000+ and my yearly oil analysis indicates everything is great. - Bow anchor pulpit. Its a strong, nice dual anchor set u! p for a stock system. - Rock solid hull. My boat has fallen off some tanker wakes that I thought would split her in two but she survived fine - Halyards. My rig has two main and two jib halyards along with a spinnaker halyard. This may be heavy but I love the redundancy. Thats my two cents. It may sound harsh, but I've had her for 8 years and am still very happy every time I'm out with her whether it's blowing 5 or 35. So that must show that she has served me well. Tell your friend that he may e mail me directly if he has anymore questions. Dave 80 Cal 35 MkI, Running Late San Mateo, SF Bay Husar Charlie <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: Hi, All. I have a friend who is looking at getting a CAL 35 (1983). He was looking for info, and pros and cons on the boat. (Formal Introduction) Cheers Charlie Husar Annapolis, MD CAL 25 - 460 Fahrvergnügen CAL 25 - 1657 Chicken Little CAL 25 - 1845 Hasty CAL40 - 58 C-Hawk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam! ? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping [This message contained attachments] Message: 16 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 04:17:24 -0000 From: "brad destache" <19… [at] sbcglobal.net> Subject: Nice photos I see that the photo page is up and runnung again. Those of you that have pictures up, very nice, It would be nice to see some more. Yes I added. Nice boats, Brad Message: 17 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:37:14 -0800 (PST) From: John Dawson <jd… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Good old memories Wow, I was race crew on a Chris Craft Apache 37 back in the seventies, and did my first ocean thing in it - Annapolis Newport Race. Running backstays and all, named Chanticleer ( or as the owners called it, the Big Cock.) Could even be the same boat, for all we know. John Dawson Kefi, Balto. Husar Charlie <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: Many thanks for the comprehensive response, Dave. I forwarded to Moe Giguere, who I met when he sailed his Chris Craft Apache 37 in the Good Old Boat Regatta here in Annapolis. 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