FW: [Cal_Boats] Cal 46 for sale

Hi, All. Merry Christmas. An historic note for you. We had Bill and his wife Peggy as guests at a CAL 25 luncheon at Riordans in the early 90s. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sanrufjack Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 4:19 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 46 for sale The deltaville VA Maritime Museum has Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 for sale. Bill lived near Deltaville befor he moved to California several years ago. If interested cal 804 815 3121. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/A1TolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links

Hi, Charlie and all - The last time I saw Bill, he told me that he was looking forward to getting the 46 out again as soon as Peggy recovered her strength. Somehow, we both knew this wasn't in the cards. Peggy and my Lori talked for a couple of hours about the Lapworth's adventures on the boat and how much Bungee and Dory (their dogs) liked to sail with them. Meanwhile, in his office, Bill and I discussed the merits of the various iterations of the 46, and Bill insisted that the original was by far the most cruising friendly. I looked at Bill and knew that he was slipping away, but just couldn't bring myself to face it head on. With Merrydown donated, I am sure that Bill is mentally gone and with Alzheimer's the rest doesn't take much longer - a year to 18 months at the most. Peggy and I spoke a couple of times as recently as July and she was going through a lot of heartache and uncertainty. Her daughter and son-in-law were taking over the family business activities and trying to arrange for in-home care for Bill. Not easy things to do, because Alzheimer's victims often become pretty surly about giving up their independence. Bill certainly was in that category. Peggy really didn't want to go into detail and I decided not to bother her again unless asked. I sent Peggy a letter last week with our annual Christmas card, telling her how grateful all of us who worked for Jensen Marine were for the partnership that Jack and Bill had that gave us all such good jobs in such a great working environment. I reminded her how much their boats had meant to all of us who own or sail on them and let her know that Lori and I are here if needed. That's about the best we can do. Each one of us who has a Cal boat should know that it is the product of a collaboration of two truly amazing minds and the hands and hearts of many wonderful engineers, craftsmen and skilled laborers. Time has shown that these boats are far from perfect. But they were the best design, workmanship, and materials available at the time. Knowing that Merrydown is on the block is hard for me. I don't know if St. Lori will allow me to make a run at her - owning two Cal's and with a new one on the drawing boards, it would take a lot of patience for her to deal with it. But I do know that Merrydown means a great deal more than just the fact that Bill and Peggy loved her so much. It is the end of an era and the beginning of a new one. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all my friends on this list. \Rog P.S. Bill and Peggy said their very favorite Cal was the 29. Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar Charlie Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:07 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: FW: [Cal_Boats] Cal 46 for sale Hi, All. Merry Christmas. An historic note for you. We had Bill and his wife Peggy as guests at a CAL 25 luncheon at Riordans in the early 90s. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sanrufjack Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 4:19 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 46 for sale The deltaville VA Maritime Museum has Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 for sale. Bill lived near Deltaville befor he moved to California several years ago. If interested cal 804 815 3121. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/A1TolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=S ailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> sailing Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sail ing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> boat Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____

On Dec 24, 2005, at 7:28 AM, Rog Jones wrote: > Hi, Charlie and all – > > > > The last time I saw Bill, he told me that he was looking forward to > getting the 46 out again as soon as Peggy recovered her strength. > Somehow, we both knew this wasn’t in the cards. Peggy and my Lori > talked for a couple of hours about the Lapworth’s adventures on the > boat and how much Bungee and Dory (their dogs) liked to sail with > them. Meanwhile, in his office, Bill and I discussed the merits of > the various iterations of the 46, and Bill insisted that the > original was by far the most cruising friendly. I looked at Bill > and knew that he was slipping away, but just couldn’t bring myself > to face it head on. > > > > With Merrydown donated, I am sure that Bill is mentally gone and > with Alzheimer’s the rest doesn’t take much longer – a year to 18 > months at the most. > > > > Peggy and I spoke a couple of times as recently as July and she was > going through a lot of heartache and uncertainty. Her daughter and > son-in-law were taking over the family business activities and > trying to arrange for in-home care for Bill. Not easy things to do, > because Alzheimer’s victims often become pretty surly about giving > up their independence. Bill certainly was in that category. I saw him in March when I was starting on the Cal 40 history and Rog set up an interview. He looked great and was friendly and personable. He had no memory, however. In our discussion, he could remember emotions but not exactly the facts that went with them. He laughed about the engineer's impression of the tank tests of the 40 and 36 when they were in design but couldn't tell me what the issues were. He was annoyed with a former owner who owned a TV station but did not recall Ted Turner's name. Rog has since told me that he really disliked Turner (Who has not responded to requests for material for the book) but I didn't learn why. This is pretty typical of early Alzheimers. I don't know how he is now. It's really sad and is extra sad for me because I started on this too late to talk to him when he could still remember. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96

Roger, Thanks for the update on Bill Lapworth, and sharing the tragic nature of your personal time with him. I can think of no more terrible thing for a wife or husband to face and my heart goes out to Peggy. So all the best to you, Lori and all of yours. I hope 2006 offers an opportunity to sail together again. David Owen PS -- Mariposa is far from finished cosmetically, but in full sailing trim. My son and I are planning an Island Trip in the new year. From: Rog Jones To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:28 AM Subject: Peggy and Bill Lapworth (was RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 46 for sale (Chas)) Hi, Charlie and all - The last time I saw Bill, he told me that he was looking forward to getting the 46 out again as soon as Peggy recovered her strength. Somehow, we both knew this wasn't in the cards. Peggy and my Lori talked for a couple of hours about the Lapworth's adventures on the boat and how much Bungee and Dory (their dogs) liked to sail with them. Meanwhile, in his office, Bill and I discussed the merits of the various iterations of the 46, and Bill insisted that the original was by far the most cruising friendly. I looked at Bill and knew that he was slipping away, but just couldn't bring myself to face it head on. With Merrydown donated, I am sure that Bill is mentally gone and with Alzheimer's the rest doesn't take much longer - a year to 18 months at the most. Peggy and I spoke a couple of times as recently as July and she was going through a lot of heartache and uncertainty. Her daughter and son-in-law were taking over the family business activities and trying to arrange for in-home care for Bill. Not easy things to do, because Alzheimer's victims often become pretty surly about giving up their independence. Bill certainly was in that category. Peggy really didn't want to go into detail and I decided not to bother her again unless asked. I sent Peggy a letter last week with our annual Christmas card, telling her how grateful all of us who worked for Jensen Marine were for the partnership that Jack and Bill had that gave us all such good jobs in such a great working environment. I reminded her how much their boats had meant to all of us who own or sail on them and let her know that Lori and I are here if needed. That's about the best we can do. Each one of us who has a Cal boat should know that it is the product of a collaboration of two truly amazing minds and the hands and hearts of many wonderful engineers, craftsmen and skilled laborers. Time has shown that these boats are far from perfect. But they were the best design, workmanship, and materials available at the time. Knowing that Merrydown is on the block is hard for me. I don't know if St. Lori will allow me to make a run at her - owning two Cal's and with a new one on the drawing boards, it would take a lot of patience for her to deal with it. But I do know that Merrydown means a great deal more than just the fact that Bill and Peggy loved her so much. It is the end of an era and the beginning of a new one. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all my friends on this list. \Rog P.S. Bill and Peggy said their very favorite Cal was the 29. Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar Charlie Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:07 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: FW: [Cal_Boats] Cal 46 for sale Hi, All. Merry Christmas. An historic note for you. We had Bill and his wife Peggy as guests at a CAL 25 luncheon at Riordans in the early 90s. Cheers Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sanrufjack Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 4:19 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 46 for sale The deltaville VA Maritime Museum has Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 for sale. Bill lived near Deltaville befor he moved to California several years ago. If interested cal 804 815 3121. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/A1TolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi, gang - Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia Maritime Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a deposit on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation requirements. The museum was going to carry (finance) everything over the deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go to the museum's family wooden boat building summer program. This is a great deal for the buyer, but a real screwing for the museum. Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, of course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he doesn't realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of sophistication is scary. I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the boat listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact the editors of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out with small articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and its history and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There is some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit drains Bill designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of water. Some ran down the companionway into the cabin and damaged some of the interior woodwork (the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak is peeling and in need of repainting. The boat is full of Bill and Peggy's personal effects and papers. The bottom shows signs of early stage blistering, meaning that it would have to be peeled, repaired and barrier-coated. Even so, there are Cal 46s in far worse condition going for seventy grand. If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg you to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. It would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to clean the boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well and help them get it listed with a broker who would donate back his sales commission to the museum. Steve says he has such a broker on his board, so all that would be needed would be a few dedicated Cal folks to help this little museum and its boat-building program get the full value from this boat. The cost to ship the boat to the West Coast is about $7,500, so if we can help these guys, I will also see if I can convince Latitude 38 (the big West Coast sailing publication) to do a story as well. If you can and live in the area, please help out. Thanks. \Rog

Rog Jones wrote: > I looked at Bill and knew that he was slipping away, but just > couldn't bring myself to face it head on. > > > > With Merrydown donated, I am sure that Bill is mentally gone and with > Alzheimer's the rest doesn't take much longer - a year to 18 months at > the most. > This such a cruel way to go, because the victim loses the things that really matter, his connections with the world and people, and because it is not swift. > > > > > > > Each one of us who has a Cal boat should know that it is the product > of a collaboration of two truly amazing minds and the hands and hearts > of many wonderful engineers, craftsmen and skilled laborers. Time has > shown that these boats are far from perfect. But they were the best > design, workmanship, and materials available at the time. > > > Looking at my beloved little Cal 20, I never have a sense that there was any focus on distracting the buyer with irelevancies. It is a good small boat, and obviously designed to perform well at a given price. For more money, there are many things that might have been improved, but then so many people would have been unable to own and sail the boats. It is otherwise with many products. Examine much of the stuff we are pressed to buy today, and you see the heavy hand of the marketing dept. making decisions. I recently bought a lightly used 4-cyl. Ranger pickup to replace one that was 13 years old. The dealer printed out the original list of standard and optional features. Standard things included the "power dome hood." (Well thank goodness. I would sure hate to be seen driving in a truck with some wimpy hood.) I don't spot the nautical equivalent of the "power dome hood" on the Cal 20. Everything on the boat is related to its job of sailing efficiently and safely. Chris Campbell

Rog: If you're not familiar with /Good Old Boat/ magazine, you should be. You could be writing technical articles and historical ones for them without breaking a sweat. It would benefit the sailing world and put a few bucks in your pocket. But apropos of the current topic, a letter to the editor containing the same info as your e-mail would be a good way to alert the used boat crowd to the availability of a boat with good design characteristics and important provenance. They've also got a web site that might be helpful in getting word out. Chris Campbell Rog Jones wrote: > Hi, gang - > > > > Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia > Maritime Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer > and a deposit on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys > the boat has to leave the title in the name of the museum for two > years and provide insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and > then at the end of two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to > satisfy IRS donation requirements. The museum was going to carry > (finance) everything over the deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go > to the museum's family wooden boat building summer program. This is a > great deal for the buyer, but a real screwing for the museum. > > > > Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them > lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, > sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, > of course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he > doesn't realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of > sophistication is scary. > > > > I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the > boat listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact > the editors of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out > with small articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and > its history and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. > > > > The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There > is some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit > drains Bill designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of > water. Some ran down the companionway into the cabin and damaged some > of the interior woodwork (the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak > is peeling and in need of repainting. The boat is full of Bill and > Peggy's personal effects and papers. The bottom shows signs of early > stage blistering, meaning that it would have to be peeled, repaired > and barrier-coated. Even so, there are Cal 46s in far worse condition > going for seventy grand. > > > > If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg > you to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. > It would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to > clean the boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well > and help them get it listed with a broker who would donate back his > sales commission to the museum. Steve says he has such a broker on his > board, so all that would be needed would be a few dedicated Cal folks > to help this little museum and its boat-building program get the full > value from this boat. > > > > The cost to ship the boat to the West Coast is about $7,500, so if we > can help these guys, I will also see if I can convince Latitude 38 > (the big West Coast sailing publication) to do a story as well. > > > > If you can and live in the area, please help out. > > > > Thanks. > > > > \Rog > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Boating sailing > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> > Sailing boat > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> > Sailing > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> > > Boating > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! 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I now them well and will give them a call. Been subscribing since they started to publish. Thanks for the idea, Chris. Will let you know what Karen and Jerry say. \Rog _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:26 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted Rog: If you're not familiar with Good Old Boat magazine, you should be. You could be writing technical articles and historical ones for them without breaking a sweat. It would benefit the sailing world and put a few bucks in your pocket. But apropos of the current topic, a letter to the editor containing the same info as your e-mail would be a good way to alert the used boat crowd to the availability of a boat with good design characteristics and important provenance. They've also got a web site that might be helpful in getting word out. Chris Campbell Rog Jones wrote: Hi, gang - Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia Maritime Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a deposit on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation requirements. The museum was going to carry (finance) everything over the deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go to the museum's family wooden boat building summer program. This is a great deal for the buyer, but a real screwing for the museum. Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, of course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he doesn't realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of sophistication is scary. I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the boat listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact the editors of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out with small articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and its history and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There is some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit drains Bill designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of water. Some ran down the companionway into the cabin and damaged some of the interior woodwork (the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak is peeling and in need of repainting. The boat is full of Bill and Peggy's personal effects and papers. The bottom shows signs of early stage blistering, meaning that it would have to be peeled, repaired and barrier-coated. Even so, there are Cal 46s in far worse condition going for seventy grand. If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg you to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. It would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to clean the boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well and help them get it listed with a broker who would donate back his sales commission to the museum. Steve says he has such a broker on his board, so all that would be needed would be a few dedicated Cal folks to help this little museum and its boat-building program get the full value from this boat. The cost to ship the boat to the West Coast is about $7,500, so if we can help these guys, I will also see if I can convince Latitude 38 (the big West Coast sailing publication) to do a story as well. 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Whoops, that should have been "know them well." Just spoke with Karen and I'm going to send her a bit for the February newsletter. Will again ask anyone in the Chesapeake Bay area who might be able to help these folks get a good owner for this boat to please contact me and let's put together a strategy. Thanks again, Chris. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:58 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted I now them well and will give them a call. Been subscribing since they started to publish. Thanks for the idea, Chris. Will let you know what Karen and Jerry say. \Rog _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:26 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted Rog: If you're not familiar with Good Old Boat magazine, you should be. You could be writing technical articles and historical ones for them without breaking a sweat. It would benefit the sailing world and put a few bucks in your pocket. But apropos of the current topic, a letter to the editor containing the same info as your e-mail would be a good way to alert the used boat crowd to the availability of a boat with good design characteristics and important provenance. They've also got a web site that might be helpful in getting word out. Chris Campbell Rog Jones wrote: Hi, gang - Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia Maritime Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a deposit on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation requirements. The museum was going to carry (finance) everything over the deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go to the museum's family wooden boat building summer program. This is a great deal for the buyer, but a real screwing for the museum. Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, of course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he doesn't realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of sophistication is scary. I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the boat listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact the editors of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out with small articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and its history and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There is some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit drains Bill designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of water. Some ran down the companionway into the cabin and damaged some of the interior woodwork (the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak is peeling and in need of repainting. The boat is full of Bill and Peggy's personal effects and papers. The bottom shows signs of early stage blistering, meaning that it would have to be peeled, repaired and barrier-coated. Even so, there are Cal 46s in far worse condition going for seventy grand. If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg you to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. It would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to clean the boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well and help them get it listed with a broker who would donate back his sales commission to the museum. Steve says he has such a broker on his board, so all that would be needed would be a few dedicated Cal folks to help this little museum and its boat-building program get the full value from this boat. The cost to ship the boat to the West Coast is about $7,500, so if we can help these guys, I will also see if I can convince Latitude 38 (the big West Coast sailing publication) to do a story as well. If you can and live in the area, please help out. Thanks. \Rog _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Darn, I was interested in her. Guess that explains why Cap'n Crunch didn't return my calls.... Scott S. Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable >From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:26:13 -0500 > >Rog: > >If you're not familiar with /Good Old Boat/ magazine, you should be. You >could be writing technical articles and historical ones for them without >breaking a sweat. It would benefit the sailing world and put a few bucks >in your pocket. > >But apropos of the current topic, a letter to the editor containing the >same info as your e-mail would be a good way to alert the used boat crowd >to the availability of a boat with good design characteristics and >important provenance. They've also got a web site that might be helpful in >getting word out. > >Chris Campbell > >Rog Jones wrote: > >>Hi, gang - >> >> >> >>Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia Maritime >>Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a deposit >>on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to >>leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide >>insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of >>two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation >>requirements. The museum was going to carry (finance) everything over the >>deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go to the museum's family wooden >>boat building summer program. This is a great deal for the buyer, but a >>real screwing for the museum. >> >> >> >>Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them >>lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, >>sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, of >>course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he doesn't >>realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of sophistication >>is scary. >> >> >> >>I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the boat >>listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact the editors >>of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out with small >>articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and its history >>and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. >> >> >> >>The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There is >>some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit drains Bill >>designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of water. Some ran down >>the companionway into the cabin and damaged some of the interior woodwork >>(the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak is peeling and in need of >>repainting. The boat is full of Bill and Peggy's personal effects and >>papers. The bottom shows signs of early stage blistering, meaning that it >>would have to be peeled, repaired and barrier-coated. Even so, there are >>Cal 46s in far worse condition going for seventy grand. >> >> >> >>If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg you >>to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. It >>would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to clean the >>boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well and help them >>get it listed with a broker who would donate back his sales commission to >>the museum. Steve says he has such a broker on his board, so all that >>would be needed would be a few dedicated Cal folks to help this little >>museum and its boat-building program get the full value from this boat. >> >> >> >>The cost to ship the boat to the West Coast is about $7,500, so if we can >>help these guys, I will also see if I can convince Latitude 38 (the big >>West Coast sailing publication) to do a story as well. >> >> >> >>If you can and live in the area, please help out. >> >> >> >>Thanks. >> >> >> >>\Rog >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>SPONSORED LINKS >>Boating sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> >> Sailing boat >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> >> Sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> >> >>Boating >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>YAHOO! 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Is there anyone in the area who could get a few pictures of this historic boat and post them on this site?? Neil "Optima" Cal 2-29 Victoria

They have NOT accepted any offers, Scott. My hope is that they get someone to buy this boat who will be able to put a couple bucks into her. From what I've heard, it looks like bringing her back to pristine condition will be about a $25,000 job, unless a person has the skills and can do it all oneself. My hope is that someone who buys this boat will have the interest and the money to do a good job with her and keep her up for future generations. Annual cost to maintain a boat like this in prime condition under PROFESSIONAL MAINTENANCE (not do-it-yourself) will be about $10,000 including slips fees, maintenance, insurance, etc. Some folks won't find that any big deal. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted Darn, I was interested in her. Guess that explains why Cap'n Crunch didn't return my calls.... Scott S. Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable >From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:26:13 -0500 > >Rog: > >If you're not familiar with /Good Old Boat/ magazine, you should be. You >could be writing technical articles and historical ones for them without >breaking a sweat. It would benefit the sailing world and put a few bucks >in your pocket. > >But apropos of the current topic, a letter to the editor containing the >same info as your e-mail would be a good way to alert the used boat crowd >to the availability of a boat with good design characteristics and >important provenance. They've also got a web site that might be helpful in >getting word out. > >Chris Campbell > >Rog Jones wrote: > >>Hi, gang - >> >> >> >>Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia Maritime >>Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a deposit >>on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to >>leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide >>insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of >>two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation >>requirements. The museum was going to carry (finance) everything over the >>deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go to the museum's family wooden >>boat building summer program. This is a great deal for the buyer, but a >>real screwing for the museum. >> >> >> >>Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them >>lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, >>sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, of >>course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he doesn't >>realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of sophistication >>is scary. >> >> >> >>I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the boat >>listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact the editors >>of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out with small >>articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and its history >>and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. >> >> >> >>The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There is >>some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit drains Bill >>designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of water. Some ran down >>the companionway into the cabin and damaged some of the interior woodwork >>(the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak is peeling and in need of >>repainting. The boat is full of Bill and Peggy's personal effects and >>papers. The bottom shows signs of early stage blistering, meaning that it >>would have to be peeled, repaired and barrier-coated. Even so, there are >>Cal 46s in far worse condition going for seventy grand. >> >> >> >>If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg you >>to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. It >>would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to clean the >>boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well and help them >>get it listed with a broker who would donate back his sales commission to >>the museum. Steve says he has such a broker on his board, so all that >>would be needed would be a few dedicated Cal folks to help this little >>museum and its boat-building program get the full value from this boat. >> >> >> >>The cost to ship the boat to the West Coast is about $7,500, so if we can >>help these guys, I will also see if I can convince Latitude 38 (the big >>West Coast sailing publication) to do a story as well. >> >> >> >>If you can and live in the area, please help out. >> >> >> >>Thanks. >> >> >> >>\Rog >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>SPONSORED LINKS >>Boating sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=S ailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> &k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating& c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> >> Sailing boat >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sail ing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> &k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4 &s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> >> Sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> &k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65 &.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> >> >>Boating >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> &k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65 &.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>YAHOO! 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I don't mind working on projects myself. I restored a much smaller vessel (Cal 25) and could probably tackle just about anything except the engine myself. If I get her, I plan to make her my home, so the annual upkeep wouldn't be too bad. It would be nice to have such a significant piece of Cal history continue to be used as she was intended, as a live aboard cruiser. Cheers, Scott >From: "Rog Jones" <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >(Scott S) >Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:55:08 -0800 > >They have NOT accepted any offers, Scott. My hope is that they get someone >to buy this boat who will be able to put a couple bucks into her. From what >I've heard, it looks like bringing her back to pristine condition will be >about a $25,000 job, unless a person has the skills and can do it all >oneself. My hope is that someone who buys this boat will have the interest >and the money to do a good job with her and keep her up for future >generations. > > > >Annual cost to maintain a boat like this in prime condition under >PROFESSIONAL MAINTENANCE (not do-it-yourself) will be about $10,000 >including slips fees, maintenance, insurance, etc. Some folks won't find >that any big deal. > > > >\Rog > > > >Cal 29+ #1 > >Swiss Navy > > > >Cal 2-30 #77 > >St. Lori's Comet > > > > > > _____ > >From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On >Behalf >Of Scott Sauvageot >Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:38 AM >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted > > > >Darn, I was interested in her. Guess that explains why Cap'n Crunch didn't >return my calls.... > >Scott S. >Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable > > > >From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> > >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted > >Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:26:13 -0500 > > > >Rog: > > > >If you're not familiar with /Good Old Boat/ magazine, you should be. You > >could be writing technical articles and historical ones for them without > >breaking a sweat. It would benefit the sailing world and put a few bucks > >in your pocket. > > > >But apropos of the current topic, a letter to the editor containing the > >same info as your e-mail would be a good way to alert the used boat crowd > >to the availability of a boat with good design characteristics and > >important provenance. They've also got a web site that might be helpful >in > > >getting word out. > > > >Chris Campbell > > > >Rog Jones wrote: > > > >>Hi, gang - > >> > >> > >> > >>Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia >Maritime > >>Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a >deposit > > >>on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to > >>leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide > >>insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of > >>two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation > >>requirements. The museum was going to carry (finance) everything over >the > >>deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go to the museum's family wooden > >>boat building summer program. This is a great deal for the buyer, but a > >>real screwing for the museum. > >> > >> > >> > >>Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them > >>lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, > >>sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, of > >>course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he doesn't > >>realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of >sophistication > >>is scary. > >> > >> > >> > >>I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the >boat > >>listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact the >editors > > >>of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out with small > >>articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and its history > >>and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. > >> > >> > >> > >>The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There is > >>some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit drains >Bill > >>designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of water. Some ran >down > > >>the companionway into the cabin and damaged some of the interior >woodwork > >>(the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak is peeling and in need of > >>repainting. The boat is full of Bill and Peggy's personal effects and > >>papers. The bottom shows signs of early stage blistering, meaning that >it > >>would have to be peeled, repaired and barrier-coated. Even so, there are > >>Cal 46s in far worse condition going for seventy grand. > >> > >> > >> > >>If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg >you > > >>to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. It > >>would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to clean >the > >>boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well and help them > >>get it listed with a broker who would donate back his sales commission >to > >>the museum. Steve says he has such a broker on his board, so all that > >>would be needed would be a few dedicated Cal folks to help this little > >>museum and its boat-building program get the full value from this boat. > >> > >> > >> > >>The cost to ship the boat to the West Coast is about $7,500, so if we >can > >>help these guys, I will also see if I can convince Latitude 38 (the big > >>West Coast sailing publication) to do a story as well. > >> > >> > >> > >>If you can and live in the area, please help out. > >> > >> > >> > >>Thanks. > >> > >> > >> > >>\Rog > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>SPONSORED LINKS > >>Boating sailing > >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=S >ailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> >&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating& >c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> > >> Sailing boat > >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sail >ing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> >&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4 >&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> > >> Sailing > >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b >oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> >&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65 >&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> > >> > >>Boating > >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b >oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> >&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65 >&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>YAHOO! 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Rog, Mentioned this to my friend Steve Alexander who is regional 'commodore' of Seascouts in our area, and who receives and sells boats of all sizes constantly. He insists the two-year wait to satisfy the new IRS requirements is a common misreading of the provisions. To remedy this problem, he has submitted an extensive letter to the IRS with expectations that it will become incorporated as a marine counterpart of their existing automotive guidelines. In it, he details various examples of 'significant use' that validate the donation on their terms. (One of which may be ownership for as little as 6 months.) The two year requirement pertains to submitting form 8282 with a copy to the donor. Whoever is corresponding with the Museum should suggest that they look at the requirements again. If they would like to contact Steve, I will send them his email address. This issue has plagued scout groups up and down the East Coast, and may needlessly complicate the Museum's actions. John Dawson Kefi, Balto. Spoke with Steve “Cap’n Crunch” Smith at the Deltaville Virginia Maritime Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a deposit on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation requirements. --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year.

John - Can you ask Steve Alexander to email me a copy of his letter? Sierra Nevada Community Sailing, the non-profit St. Lori and I founded here in Reno, receives extensive donations and we do our best to comply with the IRS requirements. Our CPA is a tax attorney as well and he is about to make a similar submission. Steve's letter would be useful so that we are all singing the same song. We teach hundreds of kids to sail each summer and have just started our high school racing program with 114 kids enrolled for the winter. We rely heavily upon donations and upon people coming to hear people like Randy Repass and Frank Butler the Lin and Larry Pardey speak at our spring seminars. Thanks for the heads-up. Mahalo. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Dawson Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:10 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 Rog, Mentioned this to my friend Steve Alexander who is regional 'commodore' of Seascouts in our area, and who receives and sells boats of all sizes constantly. He insists the two-year wait to satisfy the new IRS requirements is a common misreading of the provisions. To remedy this problem, he has submitted an extensive letter to the IRS with expectations that it will become incorporated as a marine counterpart of their existing automotive guidelines. In it, he details various examples of 'significant use' that validate the donation on their terms. (One of which may be ownership for as little as 6 months.) The two year requirement pertains to submitting form 8282 with a copy to the donor. Whoever is corresponding with the Museum should suggest that they look at the requirements again. If they would like to contact Steve, I will send them his email address. This issue has plagued scout groups up and down the East Coast, and may needlessly complicate the Museum's actions. John Dawson Kefi, Balto. Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia Maritime Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a deposit on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation requirements. _____ Yahoo! for Good - Make <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/charity/*http:/brand.yahoo.com/cybe rgivingweek2005/> a difference this year. _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____

Roger, I've tried to contact Kaptain Krunch regarding the Cal 46, both via e-mail and the phone number given (both on here and on the museums web site. He has not returned my calls or responded to e-mail. Does anyone know how I can set up an appointment to see the boat? Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Rog Jones To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Scott S) They have NOT accepted any offers, Scott. My hope is that they get someone to buy this boat who will be able to put a couple bucks into her. From what I've heard, it looks like bringing her back to pristine condition will be about a $25,000 job, unless a person has the skills and can do it all oneself. My hope is that someone who buys this boat will have the interest and the money to do a good job with her and keep her up for future generations. Annual cost to maintain a boat like this in prime condition under PROFESSIONAL MAINTENANCE (not do-it-yourself) will be about $10,000 including slips fees, maintenance, insurance, etc. Some folks won't find that any big deal. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted Darn, I was interested in her. Guess that explains why Cap'n Crunch didn't return my calls.... Scott S. Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable >From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:26:13 -0500 > >Rog: > >If you're not familiar with /Good Old Boat/ magazine, you should be. You >could be writing technical articles and historical ones for them without >breaking a sweat. It would benefit the sailing world and put a few bucks >in your pocket. > >But apropos of the current topic, a letter to the editor containing the >same info as your e-mail would be a good way to alert the used boat crowd >to the availability of a boat with good design characteristics and >important provenance. They've also got a web site that might be helpful in >getting word out. > >Chris Campbell > >Rog Jones wrote: > >>Hi, gang - >> >> >> >>Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia Maritime >>Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a deposit >>on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to >>leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide >>insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of >>two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation >>requirements. The museum was going to carry (finance) everything over the >>deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go to the museum's family wooden >>boat building summer program. This is a great deal for the buyer, but a >>real screwing for the museum. >> >> >> >>Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them >>lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, >>sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, of >>course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he doesn't >>realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of sophistication >>is scary. >> >> >> >>I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the boat >>listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact the editors >>of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out with small >>articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and its history >>and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. >> >> >> >>The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There is >>some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit drains Bill >>designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of water. Some ran down >>the companionway into the cabin and damaged some of the interior woodwork >>(the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak is peeling and in need of >>repainting. The boat is full of Bill and Peggy's personal effects and >>papers. The bottom shows signs of early stage blistering, meaning that it >>would have to be peeled, repaired and barrier-coated. Even so, there are >>Cal 46s in far worse condition going for seventy grand. >> >> >> >>If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg you >>to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. It >>would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to clean the >>boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well and help them >>get it listed with a broker who would donate back his sales commission to >>the museum. Steve says he has such a broker on his board, so all that >>would be needed would be a few dedicated Cal folks to help this little >>museum and its boat-building program get the full value from this boat. >> >> >> >>The cost to ship the boat to the West Coast is about $7,500, so if we can >>help these guys, I will also see if I can convince Latitude 38 (the big >>West Coast sailing publication) to do a story as well. >> >> >> >>If you can and live in the area, please help out. >> >> >> >>Thanks. >> >> >> >>\Rog >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>SPONSORED LINKS >>Boating sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> >> Sailing boat >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> >> Sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> >> >>Boating >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>YAHOO! 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I spoke with him the day I originally posted. He is a very nice guy, but seemed naïve. I suspect that they may have already “sold” the boat in a sweetheart deal to a friend without a proper auction and that there is probably no interest in an auction at all. This is, of course, probably unlawful under the tax code, but that isn’t of much concern to them. I’d say that short of going down there and dropping in on them, your chances aren’t great. Just my opinion and I hope I am wrong. I’d definitely keep calling and if you finally get him, ask him when the auction is going to take place. Good luck, Scott. I really hope you get this boat if it’s the one you want. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:01 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Scott S) Roger, I've tried to contact Kaptain Krunch regarding the Cal 46, both via e-mail and the phone number given (both on here and on the museums web site. He has not returned my calls or responded to e-mail. Does anyone know how I can set up an appointment to see the boat? Scott From: Rog Jones <mailto:ro… [at] nvsailing.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Scott S) They have NOT accepted any offers, Scott. My hope is that they get someone to buy this boat who will be able to put a couple bucks into her. From what I’ve heard, it looks like bringing her back to pristine condition will be about a $25,000 job, unless a person has the skills and can do it all oneself. My hope is that someone who buys this boat will have the interest and the money to do a good job with her and keep her up for future generations. Annual cost to maintain a boat like this in prime condition under PROFESSIONAL MAINTENANCE (not do-it-yourself) will be about $10,000 including slips fees, maintenance, insurance, etc. Some folks won’t find that any big deal. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted Darn, I was interested in her. Guess that explains why Cap'n Crunch didn't return my calls.... Scott S. Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable >From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:26:13 -0500 > >Rog: > >If you're not familiar with /Good Old Boat/ magazine, you should be. You >could be writing technical articles and historical ones for them without >breaking a sweat. It would benefit the sailing world and put a few bucks >in your pocket. > >But apropos of the current topic, a letter to the editor containing the >same info as your e-mail would be a good way to alert the used boat crowd >to the availability of a boat with good design characteristics and >important provenance. They've also got a web site that might be helpful in >getting word out. > >Chris Campbell > >Rog Jones wrote: > >>Hi, gang - >> >> >> >>Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia Maritime >>Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a deposit >>on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to >>leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide >>insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of >>two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation >>requirements. The museum was going to carry (finance) everything over the >>deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go to the museum's family wooden >>boat building summer program. This is a great deal for the buyer, but a >>real screwing for the museum. >> >> >> >>Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them >>lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, >>sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, of >>course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he doesn't >>realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of sophistication >>is scary. >> >> >> >>I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the boat >>listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact the editors >>of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out with small >>articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and its history >>and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. >> >> >> >>The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There is >>some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit drains Bill >>designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of water. Some ran down >>the companionway into the cabin and damaged some of the interior woodwork >>(the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak is peeling and in need of >>repainting. The boat is full of Bill and Peggy's personal effects and >>papers. The bottom shows signs of early stage blistering, meaning that it >>would have to be peeled, repaired and barrier-coated. Even so, there are >>Cal 46s in far worse condition going for seventy grand. >> >> >> >>If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg you >>to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. It >>would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to clean the >>boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well and help them >>get it listed with a broker who would donate back his sales commission to >>the museum. Steve says he has such a broker on his board, so all that >>would be needed would be a few dedicated Cal folks to help this little >>museum and its boat-building program get the full value from this boat. >> >> >> >>The cost to ship the boat to the West Coast is about $7,500, so if we can >>help these guys, I will also see if I can convince Latitude 38 (the big >>West Coast sailing publication) to do a story as well. >> >> >> >>If you can and live in the area, please help out. >> >> >> >>Thanks. >> >> >> >>\Rog >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>SPONSORED LINKS >>Boating sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=S ailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> &k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating& c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> >> Sailing boat >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sail ing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> &k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4 &s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> >> Sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> &k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65 &.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> >> >>Boating >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> &k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65 &.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>YAHOO! 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I've been toying with the notion of living aboard for quite some time, and think that this would be the ideal boat (after looking at photos sent by Tom Vandiver. BTW, Tom, thanks for the photos! I love your floating home. It would take a special boat to boost my confidence enough to make that move. As I seem to favor Cal boats over others (it seems that most Cal owners are down-to-earth good people) a CC 46 would be a terrific choice. Perhaps, when the time is right, one of these terrific craft will become available. Cheers, Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Rog Jones To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 7:52 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Scott S) I spoke with him the day I originally posted. He is a very nice guy, but seemed naïve. I suspect that they may have already "sold" the boat in a sweetheart deal to a friend without a proper auction and that there is probably no interest in an auction at all. This is, of course, probably unlawful under the tax code, but that isn't of much concern to them. I'd say that short of going down there and dropping in on them, your chances aren't great. Just my opinion and I hope I am wrong. I'd definitely keep calling and if you finally get him, ask him when the auction is going to take place. Good luck, Scott. I really hope you get this boat if it's the one you want. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:01 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Scott S) Roger, I've tried to contact Kaptain Krunch regarding the Cal 46, both via e-mail and the phone number given (both on here and on the museums web site. He has not returned my calls or responded to e-mail. Does anyone know how I can set up an appointment to see the boat? Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Rog Jones To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Scott S) They have NOT accepted any offers, Scott. My hope is that they get someone to buy this boat who will be able to put a couple bucks into her. From what I've heard, it looks like bringing her back to pristine condition will be about a $25,000 job, unless a person has the skills and can do it all oneself. My hope is that someone who buys this boat will have the interest and the money to do a good job with her and keep her up for future generations. Annual cost to maintain a boat like this in prime condition under PROFESSIONAL MAINTENANCE (not do-it-yourself) will be about $10,000 including slips fees, maintenance, insurance, etc. Some folks won't find that any big deal. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted Darn, I was interested in her. Guess that explains why Cap'n Crunch didn't return my calls.... Scott S. Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable >From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:26:13 -0500 > >Rog: > >If you're not familiar with /Good Old Boat/ magazine, you should be. You >could be writing technical articles and historical ones for them without >breaking a sweat. It would benefit the sailing world and put a few bucks >in your pocket. > >But apropos of the current topic, a letter to the editor containing the >same info as your e-mail would be a good way to alert the used boat crowd >to the availability of a boat with good design characteristics and >important provenance. They've also got a web site that might be helpful in >getting word out. > >Chris Campbell > >Rog Jones wrote: > >>Hi, gang - >> >> >> >>Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia Maritime >>Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a deposit >>on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to >>leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide >>insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of >>two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation >>requirements. The museum was going to carry (finance) everything over the >>deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go to the museum's family wooden >>boat building summer program. This is a great deal for the buyer, but a >>real screwing for the museum. >> >> >> >>Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them >>lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, >>sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, of >>course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he doesn't >>realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of sophistication >>is scary. >> >> >> >>I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the boat >>listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact the editors >>of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out with small >>articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and its history >>and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. >> >> >> >>The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There is >>some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit drains Bill >>designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of water. Some ran down >>the companionway into the cabin and damaged some of the interior woodwork >>(the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak is peeling and in need of >>repainting. The boat is full of Bill and Peggy's personal effects and >>papers. The bottom shows signs of early stage blistering, meaning that it >>would have to be peeled, repaired and barrier-coated. Even so, there are >>Cal 46s in far worse condition going for seventy grand. >> >> >> >>If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg you >>to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. It >>would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to clean the >>boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well and help them >>get it listed with a broker who would donate back his sales commission to >>the museum. Steve says he has such a broker on his board, so all that >>would be needed would be a few dedicated Cal folks to help this little >>museum and its boat-building program get the full value from this boat. >> >> >> >>The cost to ship the boat to the West Coast is about $7,500, so if we can >>help these guys, I will also see if I can convince Latitude 38 (the big >>West Coast sailing publication) to do a story as well. >> >> >> >>If you can and live in the area, please help out. >> >> >> >>Thanks. >> >> >> >>\Rog >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>SPONSORED LINKS >>Boating sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> >> Sailing boat >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> >> Sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> >> >>Boating >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>YAHOO! 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I have decided to move the stereo speakers from way back under the quarter berths/bulkhead, to a better listening location. Any suggestions? Mark Cal 2-29 #918 San Pedro, CA (Cabrillo Beach) ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Sauvageot To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Scott S) I've been toying with the notion of living aboard for quite some time, and think that this would be the ideal boat (after looking at photos sent by Tom Vandiver. BTW, Tom, thanks for the photos! I love your floating home. It would take a special boat to boost my confidence enough to make that move. As I seem to favor Cal boats over others (it seems that most Cal owners are down-to-earth good people) a CC 46 would be a terrific choice. Perhaps, when the time is right, one of these terrific craft will become available. Cheers, Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Rog Jones To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 7:52 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Scott S) I spoke with him the day I originally posted. He is a very nice guy, but seemed naïve. I suspect that they may have already "sold" the boat in a sweetheart deal to a friend without a proper auction and that there is probably no interest in an auction at all. This is, of course, probably unlawful under the tax code, but that isn't of much concern to them. I'd say that short of going down there and dropping in on them, your chances aren't great. Just my opinion and I hope I am wrong. I'd definitely keep calling and if you finally get him, ask him when the auction is going to take place. Good luck, Scott. I really hope you get this boat if it's the one you want. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:01 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Scott S) Roger, I've tried to contact Kaptain Krunch regarding the Cal 46, both via e-mail and the phone number given (both on here and on the museums web site. He has not returned my calls or responded to e-mail. Does anyone know how I can set up an appointment to see the boat? Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Rog Jones To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Scott S) They have NOT accepted any offers, Scott. My hope is that they get someone to buy this boat who will be able to put a couple bucks into her. From what I've heard, it looks like bringing her back to pristine condition will be about a $25,000 job, unless a person has the skills and can do it all oneself. My hope is that someone who buys this boat will have the interest and the money to do a good job with her and keep her up for future generations. Annual cost to maintain a boat like this in prime condition under PROFESSIONAL MAINTENANCE (not do-it-yourself) will be about $10,000 including slips fees, maintenance, insurance, etc. Some folks won't find that any big deal. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted Darn, I was interested in her. Guess that explains why Cap'n Crunch didn't return my calls.... Scott S. Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable >From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:26:13 -0500 > >Rog: > >If you're not familiar with /Good Old Boat/ magazine, you should be. You >could be writing technical articles and historical ones for them without >breaking a sweat. It would benefit the sailing world and put a few bucks >in your pocket. > >But apropos of the current topic, a letter to the editor containing the >same info as your e-mail would be a good way to alert the used boat crowd >to the availability of a boat with good design characteristics and >important provenance. They've also got a web site that might be helpful in >getting word out. > >Chris Campbell > >Rog Jones wrote: > >>Hi, gang - >> >> >> >>Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia Maritime >>Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a deposit >>on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to >>leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide >>insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of >>two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation >>requirements. The museum was going to carry (finance) everything over the >>deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go to the museum's family wooden >>boat building summer program. This is a great deal for the buyer, but a >>real screwing for the museum. >> >> >> >>Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them >>lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, >>sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, of >>course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he doesn't >>realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of sophistication >>is scary. >> >> >> >>I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the boat >>listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact the editors >>of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out with small >>articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and its history >>and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. >> >> >> >>The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There is >>some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit drains Bill >>designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of water. Some ran down >>the companionway into the cabin and damaged some of the interior woodwork >>(the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak is peeling and in need of >>repainting. The boat is full of Bill and Peggy's personal effects and >>papers. The bottom shows signs of early stage blistering, meaning that it >>would have to be peeled, repaired and barrier-coated. Even so, there are >>Cal 46s in far worse condition going for seventy grand. >> >> >> >>If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg you >>to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. It >>would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to clean the >>boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well and help them >>get it listed with a broker who would donate back his sales commission to >>the museum. Steve says he has such a broker on his board, so all that >>would be needed would be a few dedicated Cal folks to help this little >>museum and its boat-building program get the full value from this boat. >> >> >> >>The cost to ship the boat to the West Coast is about $7,500, so if we can >>help these guys, I will also see if I can convince Latitude 38 (the big >>West Coast sailing publication) to do a story as well. >> >> >> >>If you can and live in the area, please help out. >> >> >> >>Thanks. >> >> >> >>\Rog >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>SPONSORED LINKS >>Boating sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> >> Sailing boat >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> >> Sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> >> >>Boating >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>YAHOO! 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I had a sort of crazy idea about this which I have been thinking about for some time. My plan was to make a lower hatch board just tall enough to accommodate a couple of all weather speakers with enclosures on the back. They could be mounted to face in to the boat when moored or outward when under way. And then of course they could be stowed when necessary. I have not installed a stereo yet because I have a 13 year daughter whose musical tastes would ruin any cruise. I prefer peace and quiet. I would be interested in other peoples ideas as well, particularly owners of C29s. Terry Spencer Kailoa III Cal 2-29 Tacoma on 1/7/06 9:46 AM, masconsult at ma… [at] cox.net wrote: > I have decided to move the stereo speakers from way back under the quarter > berths/bulkhead, to a better listening location. Any suggestions? > Mark > Cal 2-29 #918 > San Pedro, CA (Cabrillo Beach) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Scott Sauvageot <mailto:rx… [at] hotmail.com> >> >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:26 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >> (Scott S) >> >> >> >> I've been toying with the notion of living aboard for quite some time, and >> think that this would be the ideal boat (after looking at photos sent by Tom >> Vandiver. BTW, Tom, thanks for the photos! I love your floating home. >> >> >> >> It would take a special boat to boost my confidence enough to make that >> move. As I seem to favor Cal boats over others (it seems that most Cal >> owners are down-to-earth good people) a CC 46 would be a terrific choice. >> >> >> >> Perhaps, when the time is right, one of these terrific craft will become >> available. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Scott >> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: Rog Jones <mailto:ro… [at] nvsailing.org> >>> >>> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 7:52 AM >>> >>> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >>> (Scott S) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I spoke with him the day I originally posted. He is a very nice guy, but >>> seemed naïve. I suspect that they may have already “sold” the boat in a >>> sweetheart deal to a friend without a proper auction and that there is >>> probably no interest in an auction at all. This is, of course, probably >>> unlawful under the tax code, but that isn’t of much concern to them. I’d >>> say that short of going down there and dropping in on them, your chances >>> aren’t great. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just my opinion and I hope I am wrong. I’d definitely keep calling and if >>> you finally get him, ask him when the auction is going to take place. Good >>> luck, Scott. I really hope you get this boat if it’s the one you want. >>> >>> >>> >>> \Rog >>> >>> >>> >>> Cal 29+ #1 >>> >>> Swiss Navy >>> >>> >>> >>> Cal 2-30 #77 >>> >>> St. Lori's Comet >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot >>> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:01 PM >>> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >>> (Scott S) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Roger, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I've tried to contact Kaptain Krunch regarding the Cal 46, both via e-mail >>> and the phone number given (both on here and on the museums web site. He >>> has not returned my calls or responded to e-mail. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know how I can set up an appointment to see the boat? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Scott >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Rog Jones <mailto:ro… [at] nvsailing.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:55 AM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >>>> (Scott S) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> They have NOT accepted any offers, Scott. My hope is that they get someone >>>> to buy this boat who will be able to put a couple bucks into her. From >>>> what I’ve heard, it looks like bringing her back to pristine condition >>>> will be about a $25,000 job, unless a person has the skills and can do it >>>> all oneself. My hope is that someone who buys this boat will have the >>>> interest and the money to do a good job with her and keep her up for >>>> future generations. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Annual cost to maintain a boat like this in prime condition under >>>> PROFESSIONAL MAINTENANCE (not do-it-yourself) will be about $10,000 >>>> including slips fees, maintenance, insurance, etc. Some folks won’t find >>>> that any big deal. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> \Rog >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cal 29+ #1 >>>> >>>> Swiss Navy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cal 2-30 #77 >>>> >>>> St. Lori's Comet >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:38 AM >>>> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Darn, I was interested in her. Guess that explains why Cap'n Crunch >>>> didn't >>>> return my calls.... >>>> >>>> Scott S. >>>> Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable >>>> >>>> >>>>> >From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> >>>>> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>>>> >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>>>> >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >>>>> >Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:26:13 -0500 >>>>> > >>>>> >Rog: >>>>> > >>>>> >If you're not familiar with /Good Old Boat/ magazine, you should be. >>>>> You >>>>> >could be writing technical articles and historical ones for them without >>>>> >breaking a sweat. It would benefit the sailing world and put a few >>>>> bucks >>>>> >in your pocket. >>>>> > >>>>> >But apropos of the current topic, a letter to the editor containing the >>>>> >same info as your e-mail would be a good way to alert the used boat >>>>> crowd >>>>> >to the availability of a boat with good design characteristics and >>>>> >important provenance. They've also got a web site that might be helpful >>>>> in >>>>> >getting word out. >>>>> > >>>>> >Chris Campbell >>>>> > >>>>> >Rog Jones wrote: >>>>> > >>>>>> >>Hi, gang - >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia >>>>>> Maritime >>>>>> >>Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a >>>>>> deposit >>>>>> >>on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to >>>>>> >>leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide >>>>>> >>insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end >>>>>> of >>>>>> >>two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation >>>>>> >>requirements. The museum was going to carry (finance) everything over >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go to the museum's family wooden >>>>>> >>boat building summer program. This is a great deal for the buyer, but >>>>>> a >>>>>> >>real screwing for the museum. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them >>>>>> >>lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, >>>>>> >>sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, >>>>>> of >>>>>> >>course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he doesn't >>>>>> >>realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of >>>>>> sophistication >>>>>> >>is scary. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the >>>>>> boat >>>>>> >>listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact the >>>>>> editors >>>>>> >>of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out with small >>>>>> >>articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and its >>>>>> history >>>>>> >>and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There >>>>>> is >>>>>> >>some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit drains >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> >>designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of water. Some ran >>>>>> down >>>>>> >>the companionway into the cabin and damaged some of the interior >>>>>> woodwork >>>>>> >>(the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak is peeling and in need >>>>>> of >>>>>> >>repainting. The boat is full of Bill and Peggy's personal effects and >>>>>> >>papers. The bottom shows signs of early stage blistering, meaning that >>>>>> it >>>>>> >>would have to be peeled, repaired and barrier-coated. Even so, there >>>>>> are >>>>>> >>Cal 46s in far worse condition going for seventy grand. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg >>>>>> you >>>>>> >>to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. It >>>>>> >>would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to clean >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well and help >>>>>> them >>>>>> >>get it listed with a broker who would donate back his sales commission >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>the museum. 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On Jan 8, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Terrence Spencer wrote: > I had a sort of crazy idea about this which I have been thinking > about for some time. My plan was to make a lower hatch board just > tall enough to accommodate a couple of all weather speakers with > enclosures on the back. They could be mounted to face in to the > boat when moored or outward when under way. And then of course > they could be stowed when necessary. I've seen arrangements with jacks for the antenna in the stern and box speakers that hang from or are clamped to the pulpit. The speaker is plugged in when in use. The hatch board idea might work but would be a little ugly from the other side. > > I have not installed a stereo yet because I have a 13 year daughter > whose musical tastes would ruin any cruise. I prefer peace and quiet. That's why I bought my 15-year-old an iPod. Now she has a device to hook it to the car speakers. If I can get it, I'll lose it. MIke Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > I would be interested in other peoples ideas as well, particularly > owners of C29s. > > Terry Spencer > Kailoa III > Cal 2-29 > Tacoma > >

I moved the speakers to the shelf left and right of the companion way and aft of the stove about 13 inches to center, angling forward and upwards towards the opposite side of the main bulkhead. The sound inside the cabin to the v berth has improved from muddy to great! The music can easily be heard outside now and this is great for dock parties. Mark From: Michael Kennedy To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Steeio Speaker Placement Cal 29 On Jan 8, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Terrence Spencer wrote: I had a sort of crazy idea about this which I have been thinking about for some time. My plan was to make a lower hatch board just tall enough to accommodate a couple of all weather speakers with enclosures on the back. They could be mounted to face in to the boat when moored or outward when under way. And then of course they could be stowed when necessary. I've seen arrangements with jacks for the antenna in the stern and box speakers that hang from or are clamped to the pulpit. The speaker is plugged in when in use. The hatch board idea might work but would be a little ugly from the other side. I have not installed a stereo yet because I have a 13 year daughter whose musical tastes would ruin any cruise. I prefer peace and quiet. That's why I bought my 15-year-old an iPod. Now she has a device to hook it to the car speakers. If I can get it, I'll lose it. MIke Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 I would be interested in other peoples ideas as well, particularly owners of C29s. Terry Spencer Kailoa III Cal 2-29 Tacoma SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello Cal-List: I spoke with Captain Crunch at length just before the New Year. He referred me to the marine surveyor, Fred Hecklinger, that did the survey for “donation purposes.” The surveyor sent me a copy of the survey. The boat is in bad shape. His report is brief, and I understand the boat has had seven years of “no maintenance.” Here is a summary of the pertinent sections: Basic Data: Name: Merrydown, Hull #: Not listed Builder: Jenson Marine Designer: Bill Lapworth Year Built: 1970? U.S. Documentation # 515657 Approx Market Value: $50,000 Basic Condition: Although this vessel can be considered as basically sound, proper maintenance has been ignored and a general refurbishment and updating of equipment will be necessary before this vessel can be considered as suitable for normal usage. It is readily apparent that this vessel has not seen normal usage for several years. Hull Construction and Condition: There is no evidence of damage through a collision or by heavy grounding. There is no evidence of failure of the bonds where bulkheads and other members are fitted into the hull. The hull surfaces below the waterline, when carefully inspected, reveals rather many blisters and pin-size holes in the gel coat… these conditions will certainly continue to develop, and if ignored, could lead to a breakdown of the lamination… The topsides of the hull show some general abuse, especially on the starboard side, amidships. Deck Construction and Condition: The decks were checked with a Moisture Indicator, and there are some sections of the deck that indicate water in the core material. This deserves further investigation and repairs as necessary. Layout on Deck: …Proper maintenance has been completely neglected for several years, and all surfaces are very dirty. The finish to the wooden trim is very poor… There is a foot well just aft of the steering station on deck. This foot well was seen to be full of water so that the overflow of the water drained to below decks down the main hatch. Layout Below: …multiple water leaks to the below decks area has created an extremely damp atmosphere and a general deterioration of the joinery work below decks has been the result. The water has collected in the bilge up to the cabin sole. Mold is well established throughout the below decks areas. Rig: …a general refurbishment and replacement of running rigging will be necessary… The mainsail was stowed below. It is perhaps serviceable. The roller-furling jib has been left bent on and is seriously weakened by exposure to the sun. Through Hulls: None of the valves at any of the through hulls were found to be operational. Many were not accessible because of the water in the bilge. Propulsion: The engine and all of the associated equipment has been neglected for many years. The fuel in the primary filter was seen to be contaminated… …the fuel tank should be considered as contaminated… Electrical: The batteries were without charge, and have been for some time… The system should be thoroughly checked, organized, and updated by a competent electrician. Water: Fresh water tanks …and systems should be considered as unsuitable… Recommendations: Essential: Complete a thorough refit and refurbishment in all departments, both above and below decks. Photos show the interior surfaces completely covered with mold. Orange Coast College in Newport Beach, CA had a beautiful Cal 48. They spent over $100,000 on her after they got her as a donation. Glen del Mar was her name. She was used for sailing classes. They put her up for sealed bid, and just sold her for $41,000. Considering that fact, someone is going to spend a lot of money on Bill’s old boat. This is not one for the faint of heart. Fred suggests anyone who is interested to go see for themselves the extent of the neglect and deterioation. I hope that helps in anyone's decision making. 46's in good shape go for around $125,000. -Doug Gardner Cal 35 MkII #85 Coeur d'Or Newport Beach, CA Rog Jones <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} I spoke with him the day I originally posted. He is a very nice guy, but seemed naïve. I suspect that they may have already “sold” the boat in a sweetheart deal to a friend without a proper auction and that there is probably no interest in an auction at all. This is, of course, probably unlawful under the tax code, but that isn’t of much concern to them. I’d say that short of going down there and dropping in on them, your chances aren’t great. Just my opinion and I hope I am wrong. I’d definitely keep calling and if you finally get him, ask him when the auction is going to take place. Good luck, Scott. I really hope you get this boat if it’s the one you want. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet --------------------------------- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:01 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Scott S) Roger, I've tried to contact Kaptain Krunch regarding the Cal 46, both via e-mail and the phone number given (both on here and on the museums web site. He has not returned my calls or responded to e-mail. Does anyone know how I can set up an appointment to see the boat? Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Rog Jones To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Scott S) They have NOT accepted any offers, Scott. My hope is that they get someone to buy this boat who will be able to put a couple bucks into her. From what I’ve heard, it looks like bringing her back to pristine condition will be about a $25,000 job, unless a person has the skills and can do it all oneself. My hope is that someone who buys this boat will have the interest and the money to do a good job with her and keep her up for future generations. Annual cost to maintain a boat like this in prime condition under PROFESSIONAL MAINTENANCE (not do-it-yourself) will be about $10,000 including slips fees, maintenance, insurance, etc. Some folks won’t find that any big deal. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet --------------------------------- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted Darn, I was interested in her. Guess that explains why Cap'n Crunch didn't return my calls.... Scott S. Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable >From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted >Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:26:13 -0500 > >Rog: > >If you're not familiar with /Good Old Boat/ magazine, you should be. You >could be writing technical articles and historical ones for them without >breaking a sweat. It would benefit the sailing world and put a few bucks >in your pocket. > >But apropos of the current topic, a letter to the editor containing the >same info as your e-mail would be a good way to alert the used boat crowd >to the availability of a boat with good design characteristics and >important provenance. They've also got a web site that might be helpful in >getting word out. > >Chris Campbell > >Rog Jones wrote: > >>Hi, gang - >> >> >> >>Spoke with Steve "Cap'n Crunch" Smith at the Deltaville Virginia Maritime >>Museum this morning. He told me that the museum has an offer and a deposit >>on the boat for $34,000. The deal is that whoever buys the boat has to >>leave the title in the name of the museum for two years and provide >>insurance. The deposit serves as the charter fee and then at the end of >>two years the title goes to the buyer. This is to satisfy IRS donation >>requirements. The museum was going to carry (finance) everything over the >>deposit amount. The ultimate proceeds go to the museum's family wooden >>boat building summer program. This is a great deal for the buyer, but a >>real screwing for the museum. >> >> >> >>Because I run a non-profit that serves kids, I can't stand to see them >>lose money that should go to doing good things that relate to kids, >>sailing and boat building - my three great passions, after St. Lori, of >>course. Steve has known Bill Lapworth for many years, but he doesn't >>realize the value of the boat and its history. The lack of sophistication >>is scary. >> >> >> >>I suggested to him that he should contact a local broker and get the boat >>listed on Yacht World. I also suggested to him that he contact the editors >>of Soundings and Sail Magazine and ask them to help out with small >>articles about Merrydown (Hull #1, Bill and Peggy's 46) and its history >>and let people know they can buy a piece of sailing history. >> >> >> >>The boat is sitting in dry storage and has been for four years. There is >>some interior water damage because those lousy little cockpit drains Bill >>designed are clogged and the cockpit has been full of water. Some ran down >>the companionway into the cabin and damaged some of the interior woodwork >>(the liquor locker). The cockpit-coaming teak is peeling and in need of >>repainting. The boat is full of Bill and Peggy's personal effects and >>papers. The bottom shows signs of early stage blistering, meaning that it >>would have to be peeled, repaired and barrier-coated. Even so, there are >>Cal 46s in far worse condition going for seventy grand. >> >> >> >>If there is somebody in the area of Deltaville, I'd really like to beg you >>to butt in here and help these people get what that boat is worth. It >>would be neat if perhaps someone could organize a work party to clean the >>boat up a bit cosmetically so that it will photograph well and help them >>get it listed with a broker who would donate back his sales commission to >>the museum. Steve says he has such a broker on his board, so all that >>would be needed would be a few dedicated Cal folks to help this little >>museum and its boat-building program get the full value from this boat. >> >> >> >>The cost to ship the boat to the West Coast is about $7,500, so if we can >>help these guys, I will also see if I can convince Latitude 38 (the big >>West Coast sailing publication) to do a story as well. >> >> >> >>If you can and live in the area, please help out. >> >> >> >>Thanks. >> >> >> >>\Rog >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>SPONSORED LINKS >>Boating sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> >> Sailing boat >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> >> Sailing >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> >> >>Boating >><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>YAHOO! 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--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Doug Gardner <douglas_l_gardner@y...> wrote: > > Hello Cal-List: > > I spoke with Captain Crunch at length just before the New Year. He referred me to the >marine surveyor, Fred Hecklinger, that did the survey for "donation purposes." The >surveyor sent me a copy of the survey. > > The boat is in bad shape. His report is brief, and I understand the boat has had seven >years of "no maintenance." > > Here is a summary of the pertinent sections: > > Basic Data: > > Name: Merrydown, > Hull #: Not listed > Builder: Jenson Marine > Designer: Bill Lapworth > Year Built: 1970? > U.S. Documentation # 515657 Snipped > > Recommendations: > > Essential: Complete a thorough refit and refurbishment in all departments, both above > and below decks. > > Photos show the interior surfaces completely covered with mold. That is even worse than my boat was and I have $100k so far invested. > > Orange Coast College in Newport Beach, CA had a beautiful Cal 48. They spent over >>$100,000 on her after they got her as a donation. Glen del Mar was her name. She >was used for sailing classes. They put her up for sealed bid, and just sold her for >>>>>$41,000. Yikes ! I looked at a Cal 48 in Ensenada about 7 years ago. They were asking $95k then and it was in excellent shape. They had bought it for a charter business and that never took off. I was sorely tempted but those boats need a 50 foot slip and they are rare here. I looked at a Cal 43 because they will go in a 40 foot slip. I finally settled on the 40 because of the class. >Considering that fact, someone is going to spend a lot of money on Bill's old boat. This >is not one for the faint of heart. > > Fred suggests anyone who is interested to go see for themselves the extent of the >neglect and deterioration. I would think that someone with skills and time could do it but it would be a big job. I don't think anyone could afford to have a yard do it unless you were made of money. It's a shame but it sounds like a salvage job for someone with time and talent. I nominate Rog. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 96 PS I e-mailed Fin that Rog sent me a copy of Cal 40 lines to have a half model made. If it's OK with Rog, I thought others might be interested. > > I hope that helps in anyone's decision making. 46's in good shape go for around $125,000. > > -Doug Gardner > Cal 35 MkII #85 > Coeur d'Or > Newport Beach, CA

In your dreams, Mike!. Hehehe. I just walked away from one that is a lot easier than this one \Rog I would think that someone with skills and time could do it but it would be a big job. I don't think anyone could afford to have a yard do it unless you were made of money. It's a shame but it sounds like a salvage job for someone with time and talent. I nominate Rog. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 96

Thanks for the update, Doug. This is very sad since I know how both of them loved that boat. I have a couple of great photos of them with their dogs, Bungee and Dory, out cruising. What a shame. I guess, though, that after Peggy fell and so weakened and with Bill getting progressively less aware of things, that these things just happen. I'd sure like to see the photos the surveyor took, if you want to forward them to me. Mold is a common problem that doesn't bother me as much as most. That's whey they invented pressure washers and bleach. Blisters on the other hand are a big deal and can compromise the hull. Water in the deck core is a bad deal, too. What a shame! Anyway, thanks again. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet

On Jan 9, 2006, at 8:46 PM, Rog Jones wrote: > Thanks for the update, Doug. > > > > This is very sad since I know how both of them loved that boat. I > have a couple of great photos of them with their dogs, Bungee and > Dory, out cruising. What a shame. I guess, though, that after Peggy > fell and so weakened and with Bill getting progressively less aware > of things, that these things just happen. I’d sure like to see the > photos the surveyor took, if you want to forward them to me. > > > > Mold is a common problem that doesn’t bother me as much as most. > That’s whey they invented pressure washers and bleach. Blisters on > the other hand are a big deal and can compromise the hull. Water in > the deck core is a bad deal, too. When I was looking for Cal 43s, I found one on the east coast with a wet deck and some rot in a bulkhead. I did a little (too little ) research and it looked like a big job. Roby had one rotted bulkhead on Intrepid II that he replaced. We had a lot of mildew in Conquest but it came right off with a spray mildew cleaner. Mold would probably be another matter. They say fiberglass boats can take neglect but that doesn't cover this much. Illusion sounded pretty bad when Stan Honey got it but I don't they had this much to fix. Too bad. One basket case is enough for me. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > > What a shame! > > > > Anyway, thanks again. > > > > \Rog > > > > Cal 29+ #1 > > Swiss Navy > > > > Cal 2-30 #77 > > St. Lori's Comet > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >

Michael Kennedy wrote: > > > We had a lot of mildew in Conquest but it came right off with a spray > mildew cleaner. Mold would probably be another matter. > > OK, Cal sailors, what's the difference between mold and mildew? In my mind, "mildew" is what I have below in my boats, and "mold" is the stuff that scares timid people. I have potential clients calling me all the time, trying to avoid eviction by asserting "there is black mold all over the apartment." "Black mold" is a current phobia, it seems. That's why my boats have mildew below. So what's the difference? Chris Campbell

It's thicker. That's all I can say. Mildew is mold growing in little isolated spots. Mold is contiguous and covers the surface. They're all fungi. I think it also implies growing in spaces, not just on the surface. My son and daughter-in-law had a pipe leak in their house, in the laundry room, that did not show externally. When they found it, the walls were filled with mold. They had to tear out all the dry- wall and rebuild the laundry room after the leak was fixed. A previous repairman employed by a new home guarantee outfit had done an incompetent job on the leak the first time. Fortunately his brother (my other son) is a lawyer. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 On Jan 10, 2006, at 7:10 AM, Chris Campbell wrote: > > > Michael Kennedy wrote: > >> >> >> We had a lot of mildew in Conquest but it came right off with a spray >> mildew cleaner. Mold would probably be another matter. >> >> > OK, Cal sailors, what's the difference between mold and mildew? In my > mind, "mildew" is what I have below in my boats, and "mold" is the > stuff > that scares timid people. I have potential clients calling me all the > time, trying to avoid eviction by asserting "there is black mold all > over the apartment." "Black mold" is a current phobia, it seems. > That's why my boats have mildew below. So what's the difference? > > Chris Campbell > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

It is a cryin shame the yard that was storing the boat did not do anything to help store the boat properly (ie shrink wrap to protect from the elements). I guess the storage check was not enough to take care of a costomers boat. Greg Cal 34 III Pearson P36-2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Rog Jones To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:46 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE: Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Doug) Thanks for the update, Doug. This is very sad since I know how both of them loved that boat. I have a couple of great photos of them with their dogs, Bungee and Dory, out cruising. What a shame. I guess, though, that after Peggy fell and so weakened and with Bill getting progressively less aware of things, that these things just happen. I'd sure like to see the photos the surveyor took, if you want to forward them to me. Mold is a common problem that doesn't bother me as much as most. That's whey they invented pressure washers and bleach. Blisters on the other hand are a big deal and can compromise the hull. Water in the deck core is a bad deal, too. What a shame! Anyway, thanks again. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The boat sat in the river out in back of Bill and Peggy's ex house for six years until November 2004. By then, it was probably a bit late to worry about it, Greg. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Swedish Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] RE: Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Doug) It is a cryin shame the yard that was storing the boat did not do anything to help store the boat properly (ie shrink wrap to protect from the elements). I guess the storage check was not enough to take care of a costomers boat. Greg Cal 34 III Pearson P36-2 From: Rog Jones <mailto:ro… [at] nvsailing.org> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:46 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE: Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Doug) Thanks for the update, Doug. This is very sad since I know how both of them loved that boat. I have a couple of great photos of them with their dogs, Bungee and Dory, out cruising. What a shame. I guess, though, that after Peggy fell and so weakened and with Bill getting progressively less aware of things, that these things just happen. I'd sure like to see the photos the surveyor took, if you want to forward them to me. Mold is a common problem that doesn't bother me as much as most. That's whey they invented pressure washers and bleach. Blisters on the other hand are a big deal and can compromise the hull. Water in the deck core is a bad deal, too. What a shame! Anyway, thanks again. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet SPONSORED LINKS Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=S ailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> sailing Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sail ing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> boat Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____

Did not know that. Sad situation indeed, Rog. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: Rog Jones To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:21 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] RE: Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Greg) The boat sat in the river out in back of Bill and Peggy's ex house for six years until November 2004. By then, it was probably a bit late to worry about it, Greg. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Swedish Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] RE: Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Doug) It is a cryin shame the yard that was storing the boat did not do anything to help store the boat properly (ie shrink wrap to protect from the elements). I guess the storage check was not enough to take care of a costomers boat. Greg Cal 34 III Pearson P36-2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Rog Jones To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:46 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE: Peggy and Bill Lapworth's Cal 46 -- help wanted (Doug) Thanks for the update, Doug. This is very sad since I know how both of them loved that boat. I have a couple of great photos of them with their dogs, Bungee and Dory, out cruising. What a shame. I guess, though, that after Peggy fell and so weakened and with Bill getting progressively less aware of things, that these things just happen. I'd sure like to see the photos the surveyor took, if you want to forward them to me. Mold is a common problem that doesn't bother me as much as most. That's whey they invented pressure washers and bleach. Blisters on the other hand are a big deal and can compromise the hull. Water in the deck core is a bad deal, too. What a shame! Anyway, thanks again. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Doug Gardner do… [at] yahoo.com Hello Cal-List: I spoke with Captain Crunch at length just before the New Year. He referred me to the marine surveyor, Fred Hecklinger, that did the survey for "donation purposes." The surveyor sent me a copy of the survey. The boat is in bad shape. His report is brief, and I understand the boat has had seven years of "no maintenance." <snip> This is very sad. I am sure that Bill would be appalled if he had all of his faculties, and I truly hope someone can rescue Merry Down. It would be a shame (like most Cal boats ) if it just deteriorated to the point of no return. To brighten ones day, I ran into the broker for this boat. http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units=Feet&checked_boats=1131890&slim=quick& After being very clear that there was no way I would be interested, (4 kids, tuitions, why I sold Crackerjack) he told me that the guy who owns this Cal 43 has spared and spares no expense. He said it did not sell last year, and it was taken back off the market for the season. He cannot believe that no one has moved on this, and it sure does look like a well maintained Cal. Clearly at ~$100K, there a tons of options, but the broker says that it is impeccable, and like anything else, it could sell for a bit less.

On Jan 13, 2006, at 6:47 AM, kf… [at] aol.com wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Gardner do… [at] yahoo.com > > Hello Cal-List: > snip > To brighten ones day, I ran into the broker for this boat. > > http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp? > currency=USD&units=Feet&checked_boats=1131890&slim=quick& > > > After being very clear that there was no way I would be interested, > (4 kids, tuitions, why I sold Crackerjack) he told me that the guy > who owns this Cal 43 has spared and spares no expense. He said it > did not sell last year, and it was taken back off the market for > the season. He cannot believe that no one has moved on this, and it > sure does look like a well maintained Cal. Clearly at ~$100K, there > a tons of options, but the broker says that it is impeccable, and > like anything else, it could sell for a bit less. > I like Cal 43s and looked for one before buying the 40. There was one in Oregon that I was really interested in but the owner made some modifications that would have to be undone and I lost interest. I don't know if he's sold it yet but the price was way down last time I looked. I saw one on the east coast that had a wet deck and was cheap but not cheap enough. It was later donated, the broker told me. I saw this one listed but never went to look. The advantage of the 43 is that it has a cabin with a head aft so it is a 2 cabin boat. The galley is really well laid out. I like it better than the 48 which can be wet because of low freeboard forward (seen any of the Volvo 70 photos ?). There is one in LA Yacht club that is really nice below but needs some cosmetics topside. I know the owner and think he was going to sell because of age. I don't know if it's still available. If you don't want to race, these are really nice boats. They will fit in a 40 foot slip, a major consideration in southern California. They are a lot heavier than the 40. About 6,000 pounds, I think. They would be great cruising boats. The one in Oregon had circumnavigated with a couple aboard. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >