RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal Database (Jim)

Jim, if your boat is after 1972, CAB number is stamped into the starboard outside of the stern. If prior, you have to go scrounging to find the presence of a hull number. Some were written inside the back of the stern. I found one in the inside base of a mast. Sometines on the bottom side of the drawers. What they did was to write hull numbers on various parts so they could track the pieces of a boat, and make sure they had everything together. There was no specific rule on showing hull ID. What are your sail numbers? Original sails came out with the hull number on them. Betcha I could reconstruct the whole thing if you have that data. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James D. Ivey Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:56 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal Database (John) On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 23:01 -0500, Husar Charlie wrote: John, works like this: CAB - CAL Boats 9 - CAL 29 0966 - Hull Number 966 0277 - Built February 1977 There was an alternate system that used letters for months starting in a model year of around August or September, e.g., August 1982 would be something like A83 at the end instead of month/year. Cheers Charlie Cool! Any idea where I'd find this full ID number on a Cal 25? I don't see it anywhere in my paperwork. Thanks! -- James D. Ivey <ji… [at] iveylaw.com> Law Offices of James D. Ivey SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing& w2=Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_ XQ> Sailing boat <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2= Sailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Saili ng+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Saili ng+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

Hi Charlie, Thanks. The sails aren't original. I didn't have a number put on the main I bought (she didn't come with a main when I bought her). From my paperwork, I know the hull # is 202 and I believe it was manufactured in 1967. I'm sure I've seen the number stamped somewhere -- perhaps on a stamp just inside the cabin (on the wall that separates the cabin from the cockpit). I'll find it again. Thanks again! Jim Ivey Cal25 #202 Oakland, CA On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 14:27 -0500, Husar Charlie wrote: > Jim, if your boat is after 1972, CAB number is stamped into the > starboard outside of the stern. If prior, you have to go scrounging > to find the presence of a hull number. Some were written inside the > back of the stern. I found one in the inside base of a mast. > Sometines on the bottom side of the drawers. What they did was to > write hull numbers on various parts so they could track the pieces of > a boat, and make sure they had everything together. There was no > specific rule on showing hull ID. > > What are your sail numbers? Original sails came out with the hull > number on them. Betcha I could reconstruct the whole thing if you > have that data. > > Cheers > Charlie > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of James D. Ivey > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:56 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal Database (John) > > > On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 23:01 -0500, Husar Charlie wrote: > > > John, works like this: > > > > CAB - CAL Boats > > 9 - CAL 29 > > 0966 - Hull Number 966 > > 0277 - Built February 1977 > > > > There was an alternate system that used letters for months starting in a > > model year of around August or September, e.g., August 1982 would be > > something like A83 at the end instead of month/year. > > > > Cheers > > Charlie > > > Cool! Any idea where I'd find this full ID number on a Cal 25? I > don't see it anywhere in my paperwork. > > Thanks! > -- > James D. Ivey <ji… [at] iveylaw.com> > Law Offices of James D. Ivey -- James D. Ivey <ji… [at] iveylaw.com> Law Offices of James D. Ivey

Husar Charlie wrote: > Jim, if your boat is after 1972, CAB number is stamped into the > starboard outside of the stern. If prior, you have to go scrounging > to find the presence of a hull number. Some were written inside the > back of the stern. I found one in the inside base of a mast. > Sometines on the bottom side of the drawers. What they did was to > write hull numbers on various parts so they could track the pieces of > a boat, and make sure they had everything together. There was no > specific rule on showing hull ID. > One caution here. I would look first at the starboard-side_ inside_ of the transom, as Charlie noted, seeking the liitle circle of unpainted fiberglass over the wood core of the transom where they wrote the number under the 'glass (if it's anything like the Cal 20). If that number and the sail no. match, you've got it. The caution is that on my other boat, the numbers pencilled on the various wooden interior parts don't match the builder's plate number. It's hull no. 13, always has been, but the pencilled numbers from interior parts wander around on either side of that. Now maybe standards at Jensen Marine were higher than they were in the Netherlands in 1961, but I wouldn't count on it. Chris Campbell

Jim, 1967 sounds late for Hull 202. Dunno. I am presently rebuilding Hull 460, and am racing Hull 1657. Lots of differences in the interiors. The older boats are almost hollow at the ends, and probably lighter. There are also differences in ballast placement. Two of my my four CALs have fictiious numbers on the titles. Old numbers were hard to find if they even existed. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James D. Ivey Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:29 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal Database (Jim) Hi Charlie, Thanks. The sails aren't original. I didn't have a number put on the main I bought (she didn't come with a main when I bought her). From my paperwork, I know the hull # is 202 and I believe it was manufactured in 1967. I'm sure I've seen the number stamped somewhere -- perhaps on a stamp just inside the cabin (on the wall that separates the cabin from the cockpit). I'll find it again. Thanks again! Jim Ivey Cal25 #202 Oakland, CA On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 14:27 -0500, Husar Charlie wrote: Jim, if your boat is after 1972, CAB number is stamped into the starboard outside of the stern. If prior, you have to go scrounging to find the presence of a hull number. Some were written inside the back of the stern. I found one in the inside base of a mast. Sometines on the bottom side of the drawers. What they did was to write hull numbers on various parts so they could track the pieces of a boat, and make sure they had everything together. There was no specific rule on showing hull ID. What are your sail numbers? Original sails came out with the hull number on them. Betcha I could reconstruct the whole thing if you have that data. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James D. Ivey Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:56 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal Database (John) On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 23:01 -0500, Husar Charlie wrote: John, works like this: CAB - CAL Boats 9 - CAL 29 0966 - Hull Number 966 0277 - Built February 1977 There was an alternate system that used letters for months starting in a model year of around August or September, e.g., August 1982 would be something like A83 at the end instead of month/year. Cheers Charlie Cool! Any idea where I'd find this full ID number on a Cal 25? I don't see it anywhere in my paperwork. Thanks! -- James D. Ivey <ji… [at] iveylaw.com> Law Offices of James D. Ivey -- James D. Ivey <ji… [at] iveylaw.com> Law Offices of James D. Ivey YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

Thanks, Charlie and Chris, I'll crawl around and report whatever numbers I find. I may have to update my entry in the database. Thanks again, Jim Cal25 (that much I'm relatively sure of) Oakland, CA (pretty sure about that too) On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 15:59 -0500, Husar Charlie wrote: > Jim, 1967 sounds late for Hull 202. Dunno. I am presently rebuilding > Hull 460, and am racing Hull 1657. Lots of differences in the > interiors. The older boats are almost hollow at the ends, and > probably lighter. There are also differences in ballast placement. > > Two of my my four CALs have fictiious numbers on the titles. Old > numbers were hard to find if they even existed. > > Cheers > Charlie > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of James D. Ivey > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:29 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal Database (Jim) > > > Hi Charlie, > > Thanks. The sails aren't original. I didn't have a number put on the > main I bought (she didn't come with a main when I bought her). From > my paperwork, I know the hull # is 202 and I believe it was > manufactured in 1967. I'm sure I've seen the number stamped somewhere > -- perhaps on a stamp just inside the cabin (on the wall that > separates the cabin from the cockpit). I'll find it again. > > Thanks again! > > Jim Ivey > Cal25 #202 > Oakland, CA -- James D. Ivey <ji… [at] iveylaw.com> Law Offices of James D. Ivey