5 messages2006-03-09 15:39 through 2006-03-09 19:49 UTC
Deck Paint
Bill2006-03-09 15:39
My experience:
Use 2-part! Carefully pick your day and hour to paint. Sand comes in
several grits. Silica is also popular to add to paint. Some don't like
the uneveness of the grit pre-mixed in the, in the paint technique.
Throwing sand works great, then another one or two coats. Can't kneel
down on sand with bare knees, so consider type of grit. How about
crushed walnut shells. They also comes in various grit. Using a
chemical bond/two part, means you don't have to sand between coats.
Wow! What a time saver. Just plan to have another day off to paint
again within the time window. Roll the non-skid and roll and tip the
smooth. Do the smooth first. Two keys...weather and amount of thinner.
Best to you!
Re: Deck Paint
ehall19712006-03-09 15:58
Thanks for all the responses on the painting. I'll likely go for the
2 part. I'm a bit nervous about the time constraints, but I agree
that if I'm going to remove everything on the deck I might as well do
it right. I didn't realize I could skip the sanding part with 2 part
so that's a big advantage, too.
Really appreciate all the feedback.
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Deck Paint
Bob Walden2006-03-09 16:02 UTC
A tip I've heard for 2-part: do small areas and keep a wet edge. When you're
doing the smooth parts of the deck, you're often doing long strips between
the nonskid and toe rail. Try to do these areas in stages, avoiding having
more than 1 wet edge going. For instance, do the "loop" next to the toerail
first, with the other strips masked off. Then do the other strips one at a
time. Don't try to do them all in one pass.
I'll be doing this myself this year--we can compare results.
bw
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Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Deck Paint
> Thanks for all the responses on the painting. I'll likely go for the
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Deck Paint
Michael Kennedy2006-03-09 16:56 UTC
On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:02 AM, Bob Walden wrote:
> A tip I've heard for 2-part: do small areas and keep a wet edge.
> When you're
> doing the smooth parts of the deck, you're often doing long strips
> between
> the nonskid and toe rail.
When I did this on my Cal 34, I used the two-part paint over
everything, including non-skid. That seals it and makes masking much,
much simpler. When you are all done, then mask only the non-skid
areas and roll that paint on. The two-part underneath is protecting
the deck. I would do the entire deck with the same two-part and then
do the non-skid over it.
> Try to do these areas in stages, avoiding having
> more than 1 wet edge going. For instance, do the "loop" next to the
> toerail
> first, with the other strips masked off. Then do the other strips
> one at a
> time. Don't try to do them all in one pass.
Sounds like a lot more work with a seam between the two paint areas
that could let in moisture.
Just my $0.02 but the Cal 34 is sitting in Cabrillo Marina in LA
about 14 years into the paint job. I haven't looked at it closely in
years but I see it from time to time and it looks good.
The Cal 40 was sprayed by the yard all in one weekend after two coats
of primer. I'm going to paint the non-skid another shade one day when
I get all the other projects done. I had told them I wanted the
nonskid a shade of light grey but the painting went so fast when they
finally got to it that everything wound up the same shade of white.
It's awfully bright in the sun so I'll change the non-skid to light
grey someday.
Mike Kennedy
Conquest Cal 40 #96
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Deck Paint
Chris Campbell2006-03-09 19:49 UTC
Bob Walden wrote:
>A tip I've heard for 2-part: do small areas and keep a wet edge. When you're
>doing the smooth parts of the deck, you're often doing long strips between
>the nonskid and toe rail. Try to do these areas in stages, avoiding having
>more than 1 wet edge going. For instance, do the "loop" next to the toerail
>first, with the other strips masked off. Then do the other strips one at a
>time. Don't try to do them all in one pass.
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This sounds like good advice. I haven't done a large, complex surface
since i did the deck of my 26' Seafarer about 1975. Then I did it with
brushes and paint right from the can. The kayak was only 18' long and
easy to do.
When I did the kayak, the instructions (on the can and from written
materials) were more sophisticated. The most important part is using
the right thinner, using it in the right proportion (measuring
carefully), and applying thin coats--lots of thin coats instead of a few
thick ones. Too much thinned paint will run! I got too enthusiastic on
what was to be my last coat and got runs. So I had to sand and do one
more coat.
The advice about doing sections is sound. If you want to do a very
large surface in one pass, you'll need friends--one to be mixing and
thinnung new batches of paint for you, another to be "tipping" with a
brush after you've rolled. I just rolled on the kayak--no tipping--and
it turned out extremely well. It was because I thinned properly and
used thin coats.
And finally, the most important painting tool is the vacuum cleaner.
It's the last tool used before you paint, to get all the little dust
bits out of cracks & corners. If you leave 'em there, your brush tips
will snag them and drag them into your glossy paint and you will see
them forever.
Chris Campbell