Stainless handrails for Cal34

I want to replace my teak handrails on my Cal 34 with stainless. Anyone know a place in Southern Cal that makes stainless handrails?

Riley Marine (Wilmington/Long Beach area) does nice work: (562) 435-5233 Fin Beven Cal-40 #24 Radiant San Pedro, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: camaflge<mailto:st… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Stainless handrails for Cal34 I want to replace my teak handrails on my Cal 34 with stainless. Anyone know a place in Southern Cal that makes stainless handrails? Yahoo! Groups Links

Railmakers in Costa Mesa. They made my stanchions and I plan to have steel grab rails made for the 40. They are on 18th (I think). I can find it but not give directions. They are hard to find as there is only a driveway to the street and the plant is away from the street. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 On Mar 9, 2006, at 2:45 PM, camaflge wrote: > I want to replace my teak handrails on my Cal 34 with stainless. > Anyone know a place in Southern Cal that makes stainless handrails? > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing > Boating > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >

We replaced the teak with stainless our selves, it was very easy. We used Sea dog fittings (high profile ones, not the low ones) and two lengths of 1" s/s tubing we ordered from Boat US. The high tech bending method we used was growing right next to the boat, two trees that were growing close to each other! We put the tubing between them and gave a little push and checked it against the deck until we had it right. After over drilling from the inside and filling the holes with epoxy, we through bolted the mounts in place with fender washers on the inside. Check out the photo that is named " New hardware" in the album below. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/cal34moonshadow/album?.dir=/a90f&.view=t<about:blank> ----- Original Message ----- From: camaflge<mailto:st… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Stainless handrails for Cal34 I want to replace my teak handrails on my Cal 34 with stainless. Anyone know a place in Southern Cal that makes stainless handrails? Yahoo! Groups Links

>I want to replace my teak handrails on my Cal 34 with stainless. > Anyone know a place in Southern Cal that makes stainless handrails? San Diego Marine Exchange sells them in different lengths. Woody Jones > > > > >

Hi Group, I have a Cal 34, Hull #9. The base of my mast appears to be moving a bit. Is the base just sitting on that plate and staying in place with tension from the shrouds and stays, or does the plate have some kind of shoulder to it that the perimeter of the mast base sits on? Any info would help. Thanks, Dean Ventura > > > > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------

Dean, I can't speak directly to your 34, but I have recently had the mast off Nemesis. Its deck plate does have a shoulder about an inch tall, with a strengthening grid a couple of inches higher. That is through bolted through the deck and the top flange on the compression post. Any significant movement would destroy the deck and pull the post out of line. I cant imagine what it would take to cause that. Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Mar 10, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Dean Prophet wrote: > > >> Hi Group, >> I have a Cal 34, Hull #9. The base of my mast appears to be moving a >> bit. Is the base just sitting on that plate and staying in place >> with tension from the shrouds and stays, or does the plate have some >> kind of shoulder to it that the perimeter of the mast base sits on? >> Any info would help. >> Thanks, >> Dean >> Ventura >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Boating sailing > Sailing boat > Sailing > Boating > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > ▪ Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. > > ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > >

Dean, The base should have a series of vertical plates that make a shoulder to center the mast and hold it from moving laterally. It shouldn't be able to move enough to notice. Do you mean that the mast base is moving as well, or is the base staying put and the mast moving? If the base is solid and the mast is moving, is there any deformation on the base of the mast itself? This is a common place for corrosion to eat completely through the base of the mast. This could be very serious. You can pull the stick and have a welder attach a partial or full collar to rebuild the bottom of the mast. I've heard of guys cutting a couple of inches off, but then you need new standing rigging and give up a bit of sail area. David Wilkie Owen Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Prophet To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step Hi Group, I have a Cal 34, Hull #9. The base of my mast appears to be moving a bit. Is the base just sitting on that plate and staying in place with tension from the shrouds and stays, or does the plate have some kind of shoulder to it that the perimeter of the mast base sits on? Any info would help. Thanks, Dean Ventura > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Fred Haas<mailto:ol… [at] seanet.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step Dean, I can't speak directly to your 34, but I have recently had the mast off Nemesis. Its deck plate does have a shoulder about an inch tall, with a strengthening grid a couple of inches higher. That is through bolted through the deck and the top flange on the compression post. Any significant movement would destroy the deck and pull the post out of line. I cant imagine what it would take to cause that. Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Mar 10, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Dean Prophet wrote: Hi Group, I have a Cal 34, Hull #9. The base of my mast appears to be moving a bit. Is the base just sitting on that plate and staying in place with tension from the shrouds and stays, or does the plate have some kind of shoulder to it that the perimeter of the mast base sits on? Any info would help. Thanks, Dean Ventura > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ? Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. ? To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com ? Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

Does not sound good for the base of the mast to move at all. My deck plate has a 1" + collar with a crossing grid. However, when I inspected the peice a few years back when I got the boat one of the sections had a 2+" crack at the base of the plate. I had it welded back together, but I could see that if it went on for a while, the grid system might fail. My boat is pulled and I check this each year...no problems to date. Greg 1977 Cal 34 III #52 (For Sale) ----- Original Message ----- From: Fin Beven To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Haas To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step Dean, I can't speak directly to your 34, but I have recently had the mast off Nemesis. Its deck plate does have a shoulder about an inch tall, with a strengthening grid a couple of inches higher. That is through bolted through the deck and the top flange on the compression post. Any significant movement would destroy the deck and pull the post out of line. I cant imagine what it would take to cause that. Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Mar 10, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Dean Prophet wrote: Hi Group, I have a Cal 34, Hull #9. The base of my mast appears to be moving a bit. Is the base just sitting on that plate and staying in place with tension from the shrouds and stays, or does the plate have some kind of shoulder to it that the perimeter of the mast base sits on? Any info would help. Thanks, Dean Ventura > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ? Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. ? To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com ? Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi gang - Is anyone interested in a blister repair? If you are, I would host a chat room seminar on blister repair, complete with various downloads (such as materials, equipment, list of suppliers, etc.) and photos. We could first go with diagnosis, then with repair. Then you can ask questions and we can all discuss. We may as well use the features that Yahoo gives us for this kind of thing. If it works out, I am going to ask people who have done engine replacements, wiring replacements, etc., to do the same for us Cal folks. Let me know and I'll get everything together and give it away to you so that you can become your own expert. And as you gain more knowledge, you can come back and share it with the group. Take care. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Skipper Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:51 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step Dean, The base should have a series of vertical plates that make a shoulder to center the mast and hold it from moving laterally. It shouldn't be able to move enough to notice. Do you mean that the mast base is moving as well, or is the base staying put and the mast moving? If the base is solid and the mast is moving, is there any deformation on the base of the mast itself? This is a common place for corrosion to eat completely through the base of the mast. This could be very serious. You can pull the stick and have a welder attach a partial or full collar to rebuild the bottom of the mast. I've heard of guys cutting a couple of inches off, but then you need new standing rigging and give up a bit of sail area. David Wilkie Owen Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com From: Dean <mailto:sa… [at] sbcglobal.net> Prophet To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step Hi Group, I have a Cal 34, Hull #9. The base of my mast appears to be moving a bit. Is the base just sitting on that plate and staying in place with tension from the shrouds and stays, or does the plate have some kind of shoulder to it that the perimeter of the mast base sits on? Any info would help. Thanks, Dean Ventura > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=S ailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> sailing Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sail ing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> boat Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____

that would be great.. I would really like to learn that whole process. I am going to have to pull my boat in the next year or so, and I would love to have the information, to be able to do this on my own. thanks rog, sign me up. Eric Jackson BAREFOOT 1971 CAL 29 #316 Channel Islands CA On Mar 13, 2006, at 6:31 PM, Rog Jones wrote: > Hi gang – > > > > Is anyone interested in a blister repair? > > > > If you are, I would host a chat room seminar on blister repair, > complete with various downloads (such as materials, equipment, list > of suppliers, etc.) and photos. > > > > We could first go with diagnosis, then with repair. > > > > Then you can ask questions and we can all discuss. > > > > We may as well use the features that Yahoo gives us for this kind > of thing. If it works out, I am going to ask people who have done > engine replacements, wiring replacements, etc., to do the same for > us Cal folks. > > > > Let me know and I’ll get everything together and give it away to > you so that you can become your own expert. And as you gain more > knowledge, you can come back and share it with the group. > > > > Take care. > > > > \Rog > > > > Cal 29+ #1 > > Swiss Navy > > > > Cal 2-30 #77 > > St. Lori's Comet > > > >

I'd sure be interested. I stick my head in the sand whenever blisters are mentioned, but I'd love to know more! Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Jackson Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 9:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Blister Repair Live Web Q&A? (Rog) that would be great.. I would really like to learn that whole process. I am going to have to pull my boat in the next year or so, and I would love to have the information, to be able to do this on my own. thanks rog, sign me up. Eric Jackson BAREFOOT 1971 CAL 29 #316 Channel Islands CA On Mar 13, 2006, at 6:31 PM, Rog Jones wrote: Hi gang - Is anyone interested in a blister repair? If you are, I would host a chat room seminar on blister repair, complete with various downloads (such as materials, equipment, list of suppliers, etc.) and photos. We could first go with diagnosis, then with repair. Then you can ask questions and we can all discuss. We may as well use the features that Yahoo gives us for this kind of thing. If it works out, I am going to ask people who have done engine replacements, wiring replacements, etc., to do the same for us Cal folks. Let me know and I'll get everything together and give it away to you so that you can become your own expert. And as you gain more knowledge, you can come back and share it with the group. Take care. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____

Rog - Even though I don't have blisters on my Cal 9.2 (knock wood) I'm definitely interested in learning about the effective repair of same. Count me in. TomT 1982 Cal 9.2 "Lenochka" San Mateo, CA Rog Jones <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Hi gang – Is anyone interested in a blister repair? If you are, I would host a chat room seminar on blister repair, complete with various downloads (such as materials, equipment, list of suppliers, etc.) and photos. We could first go with diagnosis, then with repair. Then you can ask questions and we can all discuss. We may as well use the features that Yahoo gives us for this kind of thing. If it works out, I am going to ask people who have done engine replacements, wiring replacements, etc., to do the same for us Cal folks. Let me know and I’ll get everything together and give it away to you so that you can become your own expert. And as you gain more knowledge, you can come back and share it with the group. Take care. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet --------------------------------- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Skipper Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:51 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step Dean, The base should have a series of vertical plates that make a shoulder to center the mast and hold it from moving laterally. It shouldn't be able to move enough to notice. Do you mean that the mast base is moving as well, or is the base staying put and the mast moving? If the base is solid and the mast is moving, is there any deformation on the base of the mast itself? This is a common place for corrosion to eat completely through the base of the mast. This could be very serious. You can pull the stick and have a welder attach a partial or full collar to rebuild the bottom of the mast. I've heard of guys cutting a couple of inches off, but then you need new standing rigging and give up a bit of sail area. David Wilkie Owen Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Prophet To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step Hi Group, I have a Cal 34, Hull #9. The base of my mast appears to be moving a bit. Is the base just sitting on that plate and staying in place with tension from the shrouds and stays, or does the plate have some kind of shoulder to it that the perimeter of the mast base sits on? Any info would help. Thanks, Dean Ventura > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Tom Tilley 1982 Cal 9.2 "Lenochka" Hull #53 San Mateo, CA --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

I am interested right now! Of course I am smack in the middle of the whole process. But every boat project is a new learning experience for me. When I hauled in late October, I counted 75 blisters, none bigger than a quarter. After reading, consulting, and searching the web, I concluded that everybody has an opinion on what to do. Being somewhat conservative (with a small c) in nature, I decided to do a complete peel and am glad I did. My wife gave me a bad time when I paid a guy $900 for a half a day¹s work to peel my bottom, but it was worth it. There is no way I could have ground out and filled that many blisters and ended up with a fair bottom. So after drying for 3+ months, this weekend is the rolling and tipping party. If any of you with expertise (or even with a strong, steady arm) are near the Tacoma area and want to experience the joy of putting on epoxy and barrier coats, I will be at Hylebos boatyard Friday, Saturday, and Sunday to welcome you. Kidding aside, I have some trepidation about getting these coatings on without sags and runs. I was advised by the fellow who peeled my bottom, to do several coats (4-5 mils) of West Systems and then follow it with about the same thickness of Interlux Barrier Coat. I f anyone on the list has done this before, I would appreciate advice on how to get these coats on thick enough to thoroughly wet it out and thin enough to avoid runs and sag when the epoxy kicks. Thanks in advance for any good suggestions. Terry Spencer Tacoma, WA Cal 2-29 Formerly ³Kailoa III² soon to be ³Capriccio² (following John Vigors naming ceremony and the consumption of large quantities of bubbly) From: "Rog Jones" <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> Organization: Sierra Nevada Community Sailing Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:31:29 -0800 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Blister Repair Live Web Q&A? Hi gang ­ Is anyone interested in a blister repair? If you are, I would host a chat room seminar on blister repair, complete with various downloads (such as materials, equipment, list of suppliers, etc.) and photos. We could first go with diagnosis, then with repair. Then you can ask questions and we can all discuss. We may as well use the features that Yahoo gives us for this kind of thing. If it works out, I am going to ask people who have done engine replacements, wiring replacements, etc., to do the same for us Cal folks. Let me know and I¹ll get everything together and give it away to you so that you can become your own expert. And as you gain more knowledge, you can come back and share it with the group. Take care. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Skipper Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:51 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step Dean, The base should have a series of vertical plates that make a shoulder to center the mast and hold it from moving laterally. It shouldn't be able to move enough to notice. Do you mean that the mast base is moving as well, or is the base staying put and the mast moving? If the base is solid and the mast is moving, is there any deformation on the base of the mast itself? This is a common place for corrosion to eat completely through the base of the mast. This could be very serious. You can pull the stick and have a welder attach a partial or full collar to rebuild the bottom of the mast. I've heard of guys cutting a couple of inches off, but then you need new standing rigging and give up a bit of sail area. David Wilkie Owen Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dean Prophet <mailto:sa… [at] sbcglobal.net> > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:39 AM > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step > > >> >> >> Hi Group, >> >> I have a Cal 34, Hull #9. The base of my mast appears to be moving a bit. Is >> the base just sitting on that plate and staying in place with tension from >> the shrouds and stays, or does the plate have some kind of shoulder to it >> that the perimeter of the mast base sits on? >> >> Any info would help. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dean >> >> Ventura >> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Boating sailing > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sai > ling+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> > Sailing boat > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailin > g+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> Sailing > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boa > t&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> > Boating > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+boa > t&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> > > > > YAHOO! 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I'd be very interested in some blister repair expertise given my interest in not one but 2 old fiberglass boats. Mike Kennedy Jr. Cal 40 #96 Santana 22 # 146 --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Rog Jones" <rog@...> wrote: > > Hi gang - > > > > Is anyone interested in a blister repair? > > > > If you are, I would host a chat room seminar on blister repair, complete > with various downloads (such as materials, equipment, list of suppliers, > etc.) and photos. > > > > We could first go with diagnosis, then with repair. > > > > Then you can ask questions and we can all discuss. > > > > We may as well use the features that Yahoo gives us for this kind of thing. > If it works out, I am going to ask people who have done engine replacements, > wiring replacements, etc., to do the same for us Cal folks. > > > > Let me know and I'll get everything together and give it away to you so that > you can become your own expert. And as you gain more knowledge, you can come > back and share it with the group. > > > > Take care. > > > > \Rog > > > > Cal 29+ #1 > > Swiss Navy > > > > Cal 2-30 #77 > > St. Lori's Comet > > > > > > _____ > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of Skipper > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:51 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step > > > > > > Dean, > > > > The base should have a series of vertical plates that make a shoulder to > center the mast and hold it from moving laterally. It shouldn't be able to > move enough to notice. > > > > Do you mean that the mast base is moving as well, or is the base staying put > and the mast moving? > > > > If the base is solid and the mast is moving, is there any deformation on the > base of the mast itself? This is a common place for corrosion to eat > completely through the base of the mast. This could be very serious. > > > > You can pull the stick and have a welder attach a partial or full collar to > rebuild the bottom of the mast. I've heard of guys cutting a couple of > inches off, but then you need new standing rigging and give up a bit of sail > area. > > > > David Wilkie Owen > _________________ > Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" > Santa Barbara, CA > http://www.mariposasailing.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dean <mailto:sailingdean@...> Prophet > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:39 AM > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step > > > > > > Hi Group, > > I have a Cal 34, Hull #9. The base of my mast appears to be moving a bit. > Is the base just sitting on that plate and staying in place with tension > from the shrouds and stays, or does the plate have some kind of shoulder to > it that the perimeter of the mast base sits on? > > Any info would help. > > Thanks, > > Dean > > Ventura > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Boating > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=S > ailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ > > sailing > > Sailing > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sail > ing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> boat > > Sailing > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b > oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> > > > Boating > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b > oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "Cal_Boats > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. > > > > > _____ >

Me too! Chris Chris Collins '63 Cal 20 #323 "don't know yet" Nashville, TN > > I'd be very interested in some blister repair expertise given my > interest in not one but 2 old fiberglass boats. > > Mike Kennedy Jr. > Cal 40 #96 > Santana 22 # 146 > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Rog Jones" <rog@...> wrote: >> >> Hi gang - >> >> >> >> Is anyone interested in a blister repair? >> >> >> >> If you are, I would host a chat room seminar on blister repair, > complete >> with various downloads (such as materials, equipment, list of > suppliers, >> etc.) and photos. >> >> >> >> We could first go with diagnosis, then with repair. >> >> >> >> Then you can ask questions and we can all discuss. >> >> >> >> We may as well use the features that Yahoo gives us for this kind > of thing. >> If it works out, I am going to ask people who have done engine > replacements, >> wiring replacements, etc., to do the same for us Cal folks. >> >> >> >> Let me know and I'll get everything together and give it away to > you so that >> you can become your own expert. And as you gain more knowledge, you > can come >> back and share it with the group. >> >> >> >> Take care. >> >> >> >> \Rog >> >> >> >> Cal 29+ #1 >> >> Swiss Navy >> >> >> >> Cal 2-30 #77 >> >> St. Lori's Comet >> >> >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf >> Of Skipper >> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:51 AM >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step >> >> >> >> >> >> Dean, >> >> >> >> The base should have a series of vertical plates that make a > shoulder to >> center the mast and hold it from moving laterally. It shouldn't be > able to >> move enough to notice. >> >> >> >> Do you mean that the mast base is moving as well, or is the base > staying put >> and the mast moving? >> >> >> >> If the base is solid and the mast is moving, is there any > deformation on the >> base of the mast itself? This is a common place for corrosion to > eat >> completely through the base of the mast. This could be very > serious. >> >> >> >> You can pull the stick and have a welder attach a partial or full > collar to >> rebuild the bottom of the mast. I've heard of guys cutting a > couple of >> inches off, but then you need new standing rigging and give up a > bit of sail >> area. >> >> >> >> David Wilkie Owen >> _________________ >> Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" >> Santa Barbara, CA >> http://www.mariposasailing.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Dean <mailto:sailingdean@...> Prophet >> >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> >> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:39 AM >> >> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Group, >> >> I have a Cal 34, Hull #9. The base of my mast appears to be moving > a bit. >> Is the base just sitting on that plate and staying in place with > tension >> from the shrouds and stays, or does the plate have some kind of > shoulder to >> it that the perimeter of the mast base sits on? >> >> Any info would help. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dean >> >> Ventura >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> SPONSORED LINKS >> >> >> Boating >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=S >> > ailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ >> >> sailing >> >> Sailing >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sail >> > ing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> > boat >> >> Sailing >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b >> oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> >> >> >> Boating >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b >> oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> >> >> * Visit your group "Cal_Boats >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. >> >> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> >> >> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! >> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. >> >> >> >> >> _____ >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Terry, If I can get my act together, I'll stop by the Hylebos Marina on Saturday to inspect your project. I've seen Kailoa III on Commencement Bay a couple of times in the last year or so. When did you buy her? I have no experience with that type of repair, but am always willing to watch other people work. Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terrence Spencer Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:50 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Blister Repair Live Web Q&A? I am interested right now! Of course I am smack in the middle of the whole process. But every boat project is a new learning experience for me. When I hauled in late October, I counted 75 blisters, none bigger than a quarter. After reading, consulting, and searching the web, I concluded that everybody has an opinion on what to do. Being somewhat conservative (with a small c) in nature, I decided to do a complete peel and am glad I did. My wife gave me a bad time when I paid a guy $900 for a half a day's work to peel my bottom, but it was worth it. There is no way I could have ground out and filled that many blisters and ended up with a fair bottom. So after drying for 3+ months, this weekend is the rolling and tipping party. If any of you with expertise (or even with a strong, steady arm) are near the Tacoma area and want to experience the joy of putting on epoxy and barrier coats, I will be at Hylebos boatyard Friday, Saturday, and Sunday to welcome you. Kidding aside, I have some trepidation about getting these coatings on without sags and runs. I was advised by the fellow who peeled my bottom, to do several coats (4-5 mils) of West Systems and then follow it with about the same thickness of Interlux Barrier Coat. I f anyone on the list has done this before, I would appreciate advice on how to get these coats on thick enough to thoroughly wet it out and thin enough to avoid runs and sag when the epoxy kicks. Thanks in advance for any good suggestions. Terry Spencer Tacoma, WA Cal 2-29 Formerly "Kailoa III" soon to be "Capriccio" (following John Vigors naming ceremony and the consumption of large quantities of bubbly) _____ From: "Rog Jones" <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> Organization: Sierra Nevada Community Sailing Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:31:29 -0800 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Blister Repair Live Web Q&A? Hi gang - Is anyone interested in a blister repair? If you are, I would host a chat room seminar on blister repair, complete with various downloads (such as materials, equipment, list of suppliers, etc.) and photos. We could first go with diagnosis, then with repair. Then you can ask questions and we can all discuss. We may as well use the features that Yahoo gives us for this kind of thing. If it works out, I am going to ask people who have done engine replacements, wiring replacements, etc., to do the same for us Cal folks. Let me know and I'll get everything together and give it away to you so that you can become your own expert. And as you gain more knowledge, you can come back and share it with the group. Take care. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com%5d> On Behalf Of Skipper Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:51 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step Dean, The base should have a series of vertical plates that make a shoulder to center the mast and hold it from moving laterally. It shouldn't be able to move enough to notice. Do you mean that the mast base is moving as well, or is the base staying put and the mast moving? If the base is solid and the mast is moving, is there any deformation on the base of the mast itself? This is a common place for corrosion to eat completely through the base of the mast. This could be very serious. You can pull the stick and have a welder attach a partial or full collar to rebuild the bottom of the mast. I've heard of guys cutting a couple of inches off, but then you need new standing rigging and give up a bit of sail area. David Wilkie Owen Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com From: Dean Prophet <mailto:sa… [at] sbcglobal.net> <mailto:sa… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step Hi Group, I have a Cal 34, Hull #9. The base of my mast appears to be moving a bit. Is the base just sitting on that plate and staying in place with tension from the shrouds and stays, or does the plate have some kind of shoulder to it that the perimeter of the mast base sits on? Any info would help. 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Me three!! Woody Jones Cal-34 #36 San Diego > Me too! > > Chris > Chris Collins > '63 Cal 20 #323 > "don't know yet" > Nashville, TN > > >> >> I'd be very interested in some blister repair expertise given my >> interest in not one but 2 old fiberglass boats. >> >> Mike Kennedy Jr. >> Cal 40 #96 >> Santana 22 # 146 >> >> >> --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Rog Jones" <rog@...> wrote: >>> >>> Hi gang - >>> >>> >>> >>> Is anyone interested in a blister repair? >>> >>> >>> >>> If you are, I would host a chat room seminar on blister repair, >> complete >>> with various downloads (such as materials, equipment, list of >> suppliers, >>> etc.) and photos. >>> >>> >>> >>> We could first go with diagnosis, then with repair. >>> >>> >>> >>> Then you can ask questions and we can all discuss. >>> >>> >>> >>> We may as well use the features that Yahoo gives us for this kind >> of thing. >>> If it works out, I am going to ask people who have done engine >> replacements, >>> wiring replacements, etc., to do the same for us Cal folks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Let me know and I'll get everything together and give it away to >> you so that >>> you can become your own expert. And as you gain more knowledge, you >> can come >>> back and share it with the group. >>> >>> >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> >>> >>> \Rog >>> >>> >>> >>> Cal 29+ #1 >>> >>> Swiss Navy >>> >>> >>> >>> Cal 2-30 #77 >>> >>> St. Lori's Comet >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _____ >>> >>> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> On Behalf >>> Of Skipper >>> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:51 AM >>> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dean, >>> >>> >>> >>> The base should have a series of vertical plates that make a >> shoulder to >>> center the mast and hold it from moving laterally. It shouldn't be >> able to >>> move enough to notice. >>> >>> >>> >>> Do you mean that the mast base is moving as well, or is the base >> staying put >>> and the mast moving? >>> >>> >>> >>> If the base is solid and the mast is moving, is there any >> deformation on the >>> base of the mast itself? This is a common place for corrosion to >> eat >>> completely through the base of the mast. This could be very >> serious. >>> >>> >>> >>> You can pull the stick and have a welder attach a partial or full >> collar to >>> rebuild the bottom of the mast. I've heard of guys cutting a >> couple of >>> inches off, but then you need new standing rigging and give up a >> bit of sail >>> area. >>> >>> >>> >>> David Wilkie Owen >>> _________________ >>> Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" >>> Santa Barbara, CA >>> http://www.mariposasailing.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: Dean <mailto:sailingdean@...> Prophet >>> >>> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>> >>> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:39 AM >>> >>> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 34 Mast Step >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Group, >>> >>> I have a Cal 34, Hull #9. The base of my mast appears to be moving >> a bit. >>> Is the base just sitting on that plate and staying in place with >> tension >>> from the shrouds and stays, or does the plate have some kind of >> shoulder to >>> it that the perimeter of the mast base sits on? >>> >>> Any info would help. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Dean >>> >>> Ventura >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> SPONSORED LINKS >>> >>> >>> Boating >>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? >> t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=S >>> >> ailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ >>> >>> sailing >>> >>> Sailing >>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? >> t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sail >>> >> ing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> >> boat >>> >>> Sailing >>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? >> t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b >>> oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> >>> >>> >>> Boating >>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? >> t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b >>> oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _____ >>> >>> >>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >>> >>> >>> >>> * Visit your group "Cal_Boats >>> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. >>> >>> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>> <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> >>> >>> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! >>> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _____ >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Okay, I'll start getting the resources together and up on one of my .ftp sites so you can download. Let's begin thinking about the end of April. I am kind of up to my navel with work right now. Will try to do two chat room sessions (because of time differences) so that you right coast folks don't have to be tired the next day. We'll cover prevention, diagnosis, repair alternatives (theory and actual practice), drying, removal of damaged material, peeling, laminate replacement, filling and fillers, fairing, a little bit of chemistry - you need to know this if you are going to avoid doing it again sometime - resin, reinforcement and barrier coat selection, paint and bottom paint and application methods. Later. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet