RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200

Interesting the statement about "no amateurs". That's exactly who is needed - from wikipedia - "The other, perhaps somewhat obsolescent usage, stems from the French form of the Latin root of the word meaning a "lover of". In this sense, retaining its French inflexion ("am-a-tEUR"), an amateur may be as competent as a paid professional, yet is motivated by a love or passion for the activity, like a connoisseur." Definitely sad to see the boat going downhill like that. But, I see a number of similar cases in the marina where I stay. TomT 1982 Cal 9.2 "Lenochka" San Mateo, CA "Robert G. Thomas" <rg… [at] attglobal.net> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Yes, that is a classic CAL, instantly recognizable, a good old boat. Recently I also saw a deserted CAL 28 moored off of Shelter Island here in San Diego… Robert Thomas Crewman Elysium CAL T/2 2005 San Diego PHRF Class 6b champions --------------------------------- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terrence Spencer Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 I have noticed this boat on its mooring over at Dockton on Vashon Island for the last several years. It does not look like it has been touched for at least that long. Running rigging and sails are rotted. It is down by the bow, either missing an inboard, filled with water, or both. I have sailed my dinghy around it several times each summer while over there, saddened by the neglect of a good old boat, wondering who would just go off and leave it. Hard to know what kind of shape the hull, beam, and deck are in. Definitely a major restoration project. On the other hand, Dockton, in Quartermaster Harbor is a great little place to visit. For those of you who don’t sail Puget Sound, we have a bunch of nice, picturesque bays and harbors in the south sound. Dockton has a nicely maintained County Park and dock. A summer evening over there, firing up the barbecue and opening up a microbrew, after an afternoon sail, is a real delight. Enjoy, Terry Spencer Cal 2-29 Tacoma,WA --------------------------------- From: kb… [at] aol.com Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:39:39 EST To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 Just saw this on Craigslist for anyone that might be interested (this is not my boat). Cal-28' Sailboat - $1200 --------------------------------- Reply to: sa… [at] craigslist.org <mailto:sa… [at] craigslist.org?subject=Cal-28'%20Sailboat%20-%20$1200%20> Date: 2006-03-16, 2:17PM PST Cal-28' she's rought but the price is right. lots of potential,but only a Bargain if you have knowlege of boat repair please no amateurs. Dan 206-463-6733 this is in or around Vashon Island no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests 142527048 --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . --------------------------------- --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Tom Tilley 1982 Cal 9.2 "Lenochka" Hull #53 San Mateo, CA --------------------------------- Yahoo! Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations!

I don't know what the left-coast states do about registration of vessels, but here in Michigan our "MC" number is on the bow (unless it's a documented vessel) and I could get owner info from the state. Maybe you folks who pass by neglected good old boats ought to jot identifying numbers down, find out who's the last registered owner, and pass the info to somebody who has more enthusiasm for sailing and more time for fixing than money. I pass a boat, about a 24 footer (builder escapes me right now) each summer, hanging on the mooring, with a boottop stripe that hasn't been scrubbed in a decade, and a few shreds of blue tarp over the boom. Yet each fall she moves into the harbor where she's bubbled, and then in the spring she's back out on the mooring. I've never seen anybody sailing the boat, but somebody tends to the moves. Odd. Chris Campbell left shore of Michigan Robert G. Thomas wrote: > > > Yes, that is a classic CAL, instantly recognizable, a good old boat. > Recently I also saw a deserted CAL 28 moored off of Shelter Island > here in San Diego... > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Terrence Spencer > *Sent:* Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:43 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 > > > > I have noticed this boat on its mooring over at Dockton on Vashon > Island for the last several years. It does not look like it has been > touched for at least that long. Running rigging and sails are rotted. > It is down by the bow, either missing an inboard, filled with water, > or both. I have sailed my dinghy around it several times each summer > while over there, saddened by the neglect of a good old boat, > wondering who would just go off and leave it. Hard to know what kind > of shape the hull, beam, and deck are in. Definitely a major > restoration project. > >

I find your comments interesting. A few years ago, when my boat was on the hard at the Gig Harbor marina, I saw a truck bring in another Cal 29. I was, of course compelled to introduced myself to the owner. He said that he walked docks for quite a while, and looked up owner information from the tax rolls, until he was able to buy his ³good old boat² for pennies on the dollar. He made offers to owners of good, but neglected, boats until someone accepted. An intriguing strategy, I thought. Terry Spencer C2-29 Tacoma, WA From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:49:08 -0500 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 I don't know what the left-coast states do about registration of vessels, but here in Michigan our "MC" number is on the bow (unless it's a documented vessel) and I could get owner info from the state. Maybe you folks who pass by neglected good old boats ought to jot identifying numbers down, find out who's the last registered owner, and pass the info to somebody who has more enthusiasm for sailing and more time for fixing than money. I pass a boat, about a 24 footer (builder escapes me right now) each summer, hanging on the mooring, with a boottop stripe that hasn't been scrubbed in a decade, and a few shreds of blue tarp over the boom. Yet each fall she moves into the harbor where she's bubbled, and then in the spring she's back out on the mooring. I've never seen anybody sailing the boat, but somebody tends to the moves. Odd. Chris Campbell left shore of Michigan Robert G. Thomas wrote: > Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 > > > > > Yes, that is a classic CAL, instantly recognizable, a good old boat. Recently > I also saw a deserted CAL 28 moored off of Shelter Island here in San DiegoŠ > > > > > > > > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of Terrence Spencer > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:43 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 > > > > > I have noticed this boat on its mooring over at Dockton on Vashon Island for > the last several years. It does not look like it has been touched for at > least that long. Running rigging and sails are rotted. It is down by the > bow, either missing an inboard, filled with water, or both. I have sailed my > dinghy around it several times each summer while over there, saddened by the > neglect of a good old boat, wondering who would just go off and leave it. > Hard to know what kind of shape the hull, beam, and deck are in. Definitely a > major restoration project. > > > SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=S ailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> Sailing boat <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sail ing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

On Mar 17, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Terrence Spencer wrote: > I find your comments interesting. A few years ago, when my boat > was on the hard at the Gig Harbor marina, I saw a truck bring in > another Cal 29. I was, of course compelled to introduced myself to > the owner. He said that he walked docks for quite a while, and > looked up owner information from the tax rolls, until he was able > to buy his “good old boat” for pennies on the dollar. He made > offers to owners of good, but neglected, boats until someone > accepted. An intriguing strategy, I thought. I'll bet the magazine "Good Old Boat" would be interested in that story. Of course good old boats can be expensive, as I know well. I was talking to a guy at the Transpac dinner last summer and heard about a friend of his who had bought an old wood schooner on eBay for $1,000. The new owner has about $300,000 invested in his bargain boat at last report. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > Terry Spencer > C2-29 > Tacoma, WA > > From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> > Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:49:08 -0500 > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 > > I don't know what the left-coast states do about registration of > vessels, but here in Michigan our "MC" number is on the bow (unless > it's a documented vessel) and I could get owner info from the > state. Maybe you folks who pass by neglected good old boats ought > to jot identifying numbers down, find out who's the last registered > owner, and pass the info to somebody who has more enthusiasm for > sailing and more time for fixing than money. > > I pass a boat, about a 24 footer (builder escapes me right now) > each summer, hanging on the mooring, with a boottop stripe that > hasn't been scrubbed in a decade, and a few shreds of blue tarp > over the boom. Yet each fall she moves into the harbor where she's > bubbled, and then in the spring she's back out on the mooring. > I've never seen anybody sailing the boat, but somebody tends to the > moves. Odd. > > Chris Campbell > left shore of Michigan > > snipped

Terrence Spencer wrote: > I find your comments interesting. A few years ago, when my boat was > on the hard at the Gig Harbor marina, I saw a truck bring in another > Cal 29. I was, of course compelled to introduced myself to the owner. > He said that he walked docks for quite a while, and looked up owner > information from the tax rolls, until he was able to buy his "good old > boat" for pennies on the dollar. He made offers to owners of good, > but neglected, boats until someone accepted. An intriguing strategy, > I thought. > > This is probably easier in Michigan, where all boats are hauled each year. That means that the neglected boats are all sitting on the hard, and in most instances they are costing their owners storage fees (or are already owned by the marina for unpaid fees). It provides some incentive to sell for folks who don't care much for their boats. Chris Campbell

I am not sure when the upcoming Hurricane damage boats is going to happen but it is a good way to get a boat on the cheap if you are handy - the next 10 years we expect more than usual hurricane activity in South Florida so the west coast guys may just have to wait to get their chosen boat Michael Kennedy <mt… [at] cox.net> wrote: On Mar 17, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Terrence Spencer wrote: I find your comments interesting. A few years ago, when my boat was on the hard at the Gig Harbor marina, I saw a truck bring in another Cal 29. I was, of course compelled to introduced myself to the owner. He said that he walked docks for quite a while, and looked up owner information from the tax rolls, until he was able to buy his “good old boat” for pennies on the dollar. He made offers to owners of good, but neglected, boats until someone accepted. An intriguing strategy, I thought. I'll bet the magazine "Good Old Boat" would be interested in that story. Of course good old boats can be expensive, as I know well. I was talking to a guy at the Transpac dinner last summer and heard about a friend of his who had bought an old wood schooner on eBay for $1,000. The new owner has about $300,000 invested in his bargain boat at last report. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 Terry Spencer C2-29 Tacoma, WA --------------------------------- From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] traverse.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:49:08 -0500 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 I don't know what the left-coast states do about registration of vessels, but here in Michigan our "MC" number is on the bow (unless it's a documented vessel) and I could get owner info from the state. Maybe you folks who pass by neglected good old boats ought to jot identifying numbers down, find out who's the last registered owner, and pass the info to somebody who has more enthusiasm for sailing and more time for fixing than money. I pass a boat, about a 24 footer (builder escapes me right now) each summer, hanging on the mooring, with a boottop stripe that hasn't been scrubbed in a decade, and a few shreds of blue tarp over the boom. Yet each fall she moves into the harbor where she's bubbled, and then in the spring she's back out on the mooring. I've never seen anybody sailing the boat, but somebody tends to the moves. Odd. Chris Campbell left shore of Michigan snipped SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations!

Here's an appreciated CAL 28 web site: http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/ Robert Thomas _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Tilley Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:25 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 Interesting the statement about "no amateurs". That's exactly who is needed - from wikipedia - "The other, perhaps somewhat obsolescent usage, stems from the French form of the <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin> Latin root of the word meaning a "lover of". In this sense, retaining its French inflexion ("am-a-tEUR"), an amateur may be as competent as a paid professional, yet is motivated by a love or passion for the activity, like a <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connoisseur> connoisseur." Definitely sad to see the boat going downhill like that. But, I see a number of similar cases in the marina where I stay. TomT 1982 Cal 9.2 "Lenochka" San Mateo, CA "Robert G. Thomas" <rg… [at] attglobal.net> wrote: Yes, that is a classic CAL, instantly recognizable, a good old boat. Recently I also saw a deserted CAL 28 moored off of Shelter Island here in San Diego. Robert Thomas Crewman Elysium CAL T/2 2005 San Diego PHRF Class 6b champions _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terrence Spencer Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 I have noticed this boat on its mooring over at Dockton on Vashon Island for the last several years. It does not look like it has been touched for at least that long. Running rigging and sails are rotted. It is down by the bow, either missing an inboard, filled with water, or both. I have sailed my dinghy around it several times each summer while over there, saddened by the neglect of a good old boat, wondering who would just go off and leave it. Hard to know what kind of shape the hull, beam, and deck are in. Definitely a major restoration project. On the other hand, Dockton, in Quartermaster Harbor is a great little place to visit. For those of you who don't sail Puget Sound, we have a bunch of nice, picturesque bays and harbors in the south sound. Dockton has a nicely maintained County Park and dock. A summer evening over there, firing up the barbecue and opening up a microbrew, after an afternoon sail, is a real delight. Enjoy, Terry Spencer Cal 2-29 Tacoma,WA _____ From: kb… [at] aol.com Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:39:39 EST To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 Just saw this on Craigslist for anyone that might be interested (this is not my boat). Cal-28' Sailboat - $1200 _____ Reply to: sa… [at] craigslist.org <mailto:sa… [at] craigslist.org?subject=Cal-28'%20Sailboat%20-%20$1200 %20> <mailto:sa… [at] craigslist.org?subject=Cal-28'%20Sailboat%20-%20$1200 %20> Date: 2006-03-16, 2:17PM PST Cal-28' she's rought but the price is right. lots of potential,but only a Bargain if you have knowlege of boat repair please no amateurs. Dan 206-463-6733 * this is in or around Vashon Island * * no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests 142527048 _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on the web. * * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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Actually, they began to appear on eBay less than a week after the storm! Some look like they eould be OK in the right hands....others.....well? I'm not interested in any...but it is fun to "window-shop" and dream! Rod Johnson, "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:25:13 -0800 (PST) carlos Solanilla <ca… [at] yahoo.com> writes: I am not sure when the upcoming Hurricane damage boats is going to happen but it is a good way to get a boat on the cheap if you are handy - the next 10 years we expect more than usual hurricane activity in South Florida so the west coast guys may just have to wait to get their chosen boat

I've done this a couple of times. An old friend turned me on to the dock walking trick several years ago. He had picked up a sailboat years before, and he and I together ended up with a 42' Viking sport fisher for a couple of hundred bucks. I had almost picked up a 38' Catalina in good shape from the original owner for around $20k before my friend who got me out of power an into sail sold me my 2-29. Since he not only introduced me to sailing, but also to my wife, and since she and I had both sailed this boat with him, but never together, the 2-29 was the "perfect" boat for us. The way to play is to walk the docks, find a boat that needs some TLC but has the bottom regularly cleaned. The best time of year in SoCal is from November to April - at the end of the season and just before - when people are beginning, or in the middle, of paying slip fees for a boat that they don't use during months that they wouldn't want to use it anyway. A boat with a clean bottom and a neglacted topside, and with expired registration tags is a prime candidate. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Terrence Spencer <tspencer@...> wrote: > > I find your comments interesting. A few years ago, when my boat was on the > hard at the Gig Harbor marina, I saw a truck bring in another Cal 29. I > was, of course compelled to introduced myself to the owner. He said that he > walked docks for quite a while, and looked up owner information from the tax > rolls, until he was able to buy his ³good old boat² for pennies on the > dollar. He made offers to owners of good, but neglected, boats until > someone accepted. An intriguing strategy, I thought. > > Terry Spencer > C2-29 > Tacoma, WA > > > From: Chris Campbell <clcampbl@...> > Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:49:08 -0500 > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 > > I don't know what the left-coast states do about registration of vessels, > but here in Michigan our "MC" number is on the bow (unless it's a documented > vessel) and I could get owner info from the state. Maybe you folks who pass > by neglected good old boats ought to jot identifying numbers down, find out > who's the last registered owner, and pass the info to somebody who has more > enthusiasm for sailing and more time for fixing than money. > > I pass a boat, about a 24 footer (builder escapes me right now) each > summer, hanging on the mooring, with a boottop stripe that hasn't been > scrubbed in a decade, and a few shreds of blue tarp over the boom. Yet each > fall she moves into the harbor where she's bubbled, and then in the spring > she's back out on the mooring. I've never seen anybody sailing the boat, > but somebody tends to the moves. Odd. > > Chris Campbell > left shore of Michigan > > Robert G. Thomas wrote: > > Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that is a classic CAL, instantly recognizable, a good old boat. Recently > > I also saw a deserted CAL 28 moored off of Shelter Island here in San DiegoŠ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > > Of Terrence Spencer > > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:43 PM > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 - $1200 > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed this boat on its mooring over at Dockton on Vashon Island for > > the last several years. It does not look like it has been touched for at > > least that long. Running rigging and sails are rotted. It is down by the > > bow, either missing an inboard, filled with water, or both. I have sailed my > > dinghy around it several times each summer while over there, saddened by the > > neglect of a good old boat, wondering who would just go off and leave it. > > Hard to know what kind of shape the hull, beam, and deck are in. Definitely a > > major restoration project. > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Boating sailing > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=S > ailing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_X Q> > Sailing boat > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sail > ing+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> > Sailing > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b > oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> > Boating > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+b > oat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " > on the web. > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . >