Planning to Trailer Cal 28 to Phoenix, then to Rocky Point, Mexico - Problems?

The Cal 28 trailer under construction in San Diego should soon be finished. I must decide if we leave the boat in San Diego, or trailer her to Mexico, per our original plan. My wife likes hanging out in San Diego now, but it is twice the distance compared to Mexico. It is hard to find enough time to sail. Anyone haul a boat over the mountains between San Diego and Phoenix? The towing limit on my GMC Sierra says 7,600 lbs. The Cal 28 weighs 6000, and the trailer another 1,500 lbs, or so. Looks like I am right at the limit. I wish to avoid further near disasters. After reading everyone's do it yourself stories, I am feeling inspired to take on some blisters on the bottom of the boat <a href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" target="new">shown here</a>). It would also be nice to really go over the boat without being hindered by water. Your thoughts and experience are appreciated. Bruce Gangfurd Cal 28 - Hull 82

Sorry, the link should be: <a > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/gangfurd/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > target="new">shown here</a> --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@...> wrote: > > The Cal 28 trailer under construction in San Diego should soon be > finished. I must decide if we leave the boat in San Diego, or trailer > her to Mexico, per our original plan. My wife likes hanging out in > San Diego now, but it is twice the distance compared to Mexico. It is > hard to find enough time to sail. > > Anyone haul a boat over the mountains between San Diego and Phoenix? > The towing limit on my GMC Sierra says 7,600 lbs. The Cal 28 weighs > 6000, and the trailer another 1,500 lbs, or so. Looks like I am right > at the limit. > > I wish to avoid further near disasters. After reading everyone's do > it yourself stories, I am feeling inspired to take on some blisters on > the bottom of the boat <a > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > target="new">shown here</a>). It would also be nice to really go over > the boat without being hindered by water. > > Your thoughts and experience are appreciated. > > Bruce > Gangfurd > Cal 28 - Hull 82 >

One more time! <a href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/gangfurd/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" target="new">shown here</a> --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@...> wrote: > > Sorry, the link should be: > <a > > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/gangfurd/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > > target="new">shown here</a> > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@> wrote: > > > > The Cal 28 trailer under construction in San Diego should soon be > > finished. I must decide if we leave the boat in San Diego, or trailer > > her to Mexico, per our original plan. My wife likes hanging out in > > San Diego now, but it is twice the distance compared to Mexico. It is > > hard to find enough time to sail. > > > > Anyone haul a boat over the mountains between San Diego and Phoenix? > > The towing limit on my GMC Sierra says 7,600 lbs. The Cal 28 weighs > > 6000, and the trailer another 1,500 lbs, or so. Looks like I am right > > at the limit. > > > > I wish to avoid further near disasters. After reading everyone's do > > it yourself stories, I am feeling inspired to take on some blisters on > > the bottom of the boat <a > > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > > target="new">shown here</a>). It would also be nice to really go over > > the boat without being hindered by water. > > > > Your thoughts and experience are appreciated. > > > > Bruce > > Gangfurd > > Cal 28 - Hull 82 > > >

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@...> wrote: > > One more time! > > <a > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/gangfurd/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > target="new">shown here</a> > That's quite a gash. I'd think you'd want to be sure the keel was dry inside before sealing it over. If you're going to reapir it right, you could enlarge the hole and check the inside to see if it is wet. Then a hole drilled below to drain any water. Maybe some denatured alcolhol to dry it out. Then repair it by glassing several layers with epoxy. I have pulled trailers over Interstate 8 from San Diego to Tucson. The only concern for a trailer like that would be wind. It can get very windy. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 ## 96 > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@> wrote: > > > > Sorry, the link should be: > > <a > > > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/gangfurd/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > > > target="new">shown here</a> > > > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@> wrote: > > > > > > The Cal 28 trailer under construction in San Diego should soon be > > > finished. I must decide if we leave the boat in San Diego, or trailer > > > her to Mexico, per our original plan. My wife likes hanging out in > > > San Diego now, but it is twice the distance compared to Mexico. It is > > > hard to find enough time to sail. > > > > > > Anyone haul a boat over the mountains between San Diego and Phoenix? > > > The towing limit on my GMC Sierra says 7,600 lbs. The Cal 28 weighs > > > 6000, and the trailer another 1,500 lbs, or so. Looks like I am right > > > at the limit. > > > > > > I wish to avoid further near disasters. After reading everyone's do > > > it yourself stories, I am feeling inspired to take on some blisters on > > > the bottom of the boat <a > > > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > > > target="new">shown here</a>). It would also be nice to really go over > > > the boat without being hindered by water. > > > > > > Your thoughts and experience are appreciated. > > > > > > Bruce > > > Gangfurd > > > Cal 28 - Hull 82 > > > > > >

I have a friend on the west side of Phoenix that could help you if you have trouble . He is a top sailor in the Phoenix Yacht club with a 10,000l hoist in his back yard and all the equipment needed to repais trailers. He also has hauled Catalina 30 and ID35 around the west Coast If in trouble email me back and I know he will not let you down Dave Paulson Cal3 34 Allergia Channel Islands Ca From: "rua84" <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Planning to Trailer Cal 28 to Phoenix, then to Rocky Point, Mexico - Problems? > The Cal 28 trailer under construction in San Diego should soon be > finished. I must decide if we leave the boat in San Diego, or trailer > her to Mexico, per our original plan. My wife likes hanging out in > San Diego now, but it is twice the distance compared to Mexico. It is > hard to find enough time to sail. > > Anyone haul a boat over the mountains between San Diego and Phoenix? > The towing limit on my GMC Sierra says 7,600 lbs. The Cal 28 weighs > 6000, and the trailer another 1,500 lbs, or so. Looks like I am right > at the limit. > > I wish to avoid further near disasters. After reading everyone's do > it yourself stories, I am feeling inspired to take on some blisters on > the bottom of the boat <a > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > target="new">shown here</a>). It would also be nice to really go over > the boat without being hindered by water. > > Your thoughts and experience are appreciated. > > Bruce > Gangfurd > Cal 28 - Hull 82 > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

Thanks for the responses from all of you. Just so I am on the same page, is the "gash" you refer to the patch growing sea creatures, or are you referring to the plug inserted into the propeller shaft? They are both covered with sea growth. Does it look that bad? Thanks, again. Bruce --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "mtkennedy1" <mtkennedy1@...> wrote: > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@> wrote: > > > > One more time! > > > > <a > > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/gangfurd/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > > target="new">shown here</a> > > > > That's quite a gash. I'd think you'd want to be sure the keel was dry inside before sealing it > over. If you're going to reapir it right, you could enlarge the hole and check the inside to > see if it is wet. Then a hole drilled below to drain any water. Maybe some denatured > alcolhol to dry it out. Then repair it by glassing several layers with epoxy. > > I have pulled trailers over Interstate 8 from San Diego to Tucson. The only concern for a > trailer like that would be wind. It can get very windy. > > Mike Kennedy > Conquest Cal 40 ## 96 > > > > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@> wrote: > > > > > > Sorry, the link should be: > > > <a > > > > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/gangfurd/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > > > > target="new">shown here</a> > > > > > > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The Cal 28 trailer under construction in San Diego should soon be > > > > finished. I must decide if we leave the boat in San Diego, or trailer > > > > her to Mexico, per our original plan. My wife likes hanging out in > > > > San Diego now, but it is twice the distance compared to Mexico. It is > > > > hard to find enough time to sail. > > > > > > > > Anyone haul a boat over the mountains between San Diego and Phoenix? > > > > The towing limit on my GMC Sierra says 7,600 lbs. The Cal 28 weighs > > > > 6000, and the trailer another 1,500 lbs, or so. Looks like I am right > > > > at the limit. > > > > > > > > I wish to avoid further near disasters. After reading everyone's do > > > > it yourself stories, I am feeling inspired to take on some blisters on > > > > the bottom of the boat <a > > > > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > > > > target="new">shown here</a>). It would also be nice to really go over > > > > the boat without being hindered by water. > > > > > > > > Your thoughts and experience are appreciated. > > > > > > > > Bruce > > > > Gangfurd > > > > Cal 28 - Hull 82 > > > > > > > > > >

your Cal weight is probably a dry, empty boat. Loaded with all its stuff, it will be heavier. Trailer may be also. Then there is th eload in the vehicle itself. could you do it? yes, particularly if the trailerr has brakes, which it should. Would you be "over gross"? I'm betting yes. Should you? probably not with that rig, though many do. My preference would be to tow with a rig which has a CGVW of 20% more than you need. I also prefer longest wheelbase as opposed to shorter wheelbase. Mine is a crewcab with the long box. I've towed a Cal 27 from Chicago to western montana and a Cal 27 from western Montana to Santa Barbara, CA., and back. Reggie >From: "rua84" <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Planning to Trailer Cal 28 to Phoenix, then to Rocky >Point, Mexico - Problems? >Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:42:36 -0000 > >The Cal 28 trailer under construction in San Diego should soon be >finished. I must decide if we leave the boat in San Diego, or trailer >her to Mexico, per our original plan. My wife likes hanging out in >San Diego now, but it is twice the distance compared to Mexico. It is >hard to find enough time to sail. > >Anyone haul a boat over the mountains between San Diego and Phoenix? >The towing limit on my GMC Sierra says 7,600 lbs. The Cal 28 weighs >6000, and the trailer another 1,500 lbs, or so. Looks like I am right >at the limit. > >I wish to avoid further near disasters. After reading everyone's do >it yourself stories, I am feeling inspired to take on some blisters on >the bottom of the boat <a >href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" >target="new">shown here</a>). It would also be nice to really go over >the boat without being hindered by water. > >Your thoughts and experience are appreciated. > >Bruce >Gangfurd >Cal 28 - Hull 82 > > >

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the responses from all of you. > > Just so I am on the same page, is the "gash" you refer to the patch > growing sea creatures, or are you referring to the plug inserted into > the propeller shaft? They are both covered with sea growth. Does it > look that bad? > I was confusing the two boat stories. I'm doing more of that since I passed 65. I think I would fill the shaft tunnel with polyester or epoxy putty. No wood plugs for me. MIke Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > Thanks, again. > > Bruce > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "mtkennedy1" <mtkennedy1@> wrote: > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@> wrote: > > > > > > One more time! > > > > > > <a > > > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/gangfurd/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > > > target="new">shown here</a> > > > > > > > That's quite a gash. I'd think you'd want to be sure the keel was > dry inside before sealing it > > over. If you're going to reapir it right, you could enlarge the > hole and check the inside to > > see if it is wet. Then a hole drilled below to drain any water. > Maybe some denatured > > alcolhol to dry it out. Then repair it by glassing several layers > with epoxy. > > > > I have pulled trailers over Interstate 8 from San Diego to Tucson. > The only concern for a > > trailer like that would be wind. It can get very windy. > > > > Mike Kennedy > > Conquest Cal 40 ## 96 > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry, the link should be: > > > > <a > > > > > > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/gangfurd/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > > > > > target="new">shown here</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "rua84" <bruce@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Cal 28 trailer under construction in San Diego should > soon be > > > > > finished. I must decide if we leave the boat in San Diego, > or trailer > > > > > her to Mexico, per our original plan. My wife likes hanging > out in > > > > > San Diego now, but it is twice the distance compared to > Mexico. It is > > > > > hard to find enough time to sail. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone haul a boat over the mountains between San Diego and > Phoenix? > > > > > The towing limit on my GMC Sierra says 7,600 lbs. The Cal 28 > weighs > > > > > 6000, and the trailer another 1,500 lbs, or so. Looks like I > am right > > > > > at the limit. > > > > > > > > > > I wish to avoid further near disasters. After reading > everyone's do > > > > > it yourself stories, I am feeling inspired to take on some > blisters on > > > > > the bottom of the boat <a > > > > > href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > > > > > target="new">shown here</a>). It would also be nice to > really go over > > > > > the boat without being hindered by water. > > > > > > > > > > Your thoughts and experience are appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Bruce > > > > > Gangfurd > > > > > Cal 28 - Hull 82 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Boy was that fun. Let's do it again, Reggie. David Wilkie Owen Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com From: "r good" <my… [at] hotmail.com> To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Planning to Trailer Cal 28 to Phoenix, then to Rocky Point, Mexico - Problems? > your Cal weight is probably a dry, empty boat. Loaded with all its stuff, > it will be heavier. Trailer may be also. Then there is th eload in the > vehicle itself. could you do it? yes, particularly if the trailerr has > brakes, which it should. Would you be "over gross"? I'm betting yes. > Should you? probably not with that rig, though many do. My preference > would be to tow with a rig which has a CGVW of 20% more than you need. I > also prefer longest wheelbase as opposed to shorter wheelbase. Mine is a > crewcab with the long box. I've towed a Cal 27 from Chicago to western > montana and a Cal 27 from western Montana to Santa Barbara, CA., and back. > Reggie > > >>From: "rua84" <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> >>Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>Subject: [Cal_Boats] Planning to Trailer Cal 28 to Phoenix, then to Rocky >>Point, Mexico - Problems? >>Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:42:36 -0000 >> >>The Cal 28 trailer under construction in San Diego should soon be >>finished. I must decide if we leave the boat in San Diego, or trailer >>her to Mexico, per our original plan. My wife likes hanging out in >>San Diego now, but it is twice the distance compared to Mexico. It is >>hard to find enough time to sail. >> >>Anyone haul a boat over the mountains between San Diego and Phoenix? >>The towing limit on my GMC Sierra says 7,600 lbs. The Cal 28 weighs >>6000, and the trailer another 1,500 lbs, or so. Looks like I am right >>at the limit. >> >>I wish to avoid further near disasters. After reading everyone's do >>it yourself stories, I am feeling inspired to take on some blisters on >>the bottom of the boat <a >>href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" >>target="new">shown here</a>). It would also be nice to really go over >>the boat without being hindered by water. >> >>Your thoughts and experience are appreciated. >> >>Bruce >>Gangfurd >>Cal 28 - Hull 82 >> >> >> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

as you might guess, we're game! >From: "Skipper" <sk… [at] mariposasailing.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Planning to Trailer Cal 28 to Phoenix, then to >Rocky Point, Mexico - Problems? >Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 13:00:47 -0700 > > >Boy was that fun. Let's do it again, Reggie. > >David Wilkie Owen >_________________ >Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" >Santa Barbara, CA >http://www.mariposasailing.com > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "r good" <my… [at] hotmail.com> >To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 9:27 AM >Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Planning to Trailer Cal 28 to Phoenix, then to >Rocky Point, Mexico - Problems? > > > > your Cal weight is probably a dry, empty boat. Loaded with all its >stuff, > > it will be heavier. Trailer may be also. Then there is th eload in the > > vehicle itself. could you do it? yes, particularly if the trailerr has > > brakes, which it should. Would you be "over gross"? I'm betting yes. > > Should you? probably not with that rig, though many do. My preference > > would be to tow with a rig which has a CGVW of 20% more than you need. >I > > also prefer longest wheelbase as opposed to shorter wheelbase. Mine is >a > > crewcab with the long box. I've towed a Cal 27 from Chicago to western > > montana and a Cal 27 from western Montana to Santa Barbara, CA., and >back. > > Reggie > > > > > >>From: "rua84" <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> > >>Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > >>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > >>Subject: [Cal_Boats] Planning to Trailer Cal 28 to Phoenix, then to >Rocky > >>Point, Mexico - Problems? > >>Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:42:36 -0000 > >> > >>The Cal 28 trailer under construction in San Diego should soon be > >>finished. I must decide if we leave the boat in San Diego, or trailer > >>her to Mexico, per our original plan. My wife likes hanging out in > >>San Diego now, but it is twice the distance compared to Mexico. It is > >>hard to find enough time to sail. > >> > >>Anyone haul a boat over the mountains between San Diego and Phoenix? > >>The towing limit on my GMC Sierra says 7,600 lbs. The Cal 28 weighs > >>6000, and the trailer another 1,500 lbs, or so. Looks like I am right > >>at the limit. > >> > >>I wish to avoid further near disasters. After reading everyone's do > >>it yourself stories, I am feeling inspired to take on some blisters on > >>the bottom of the boat <a > >>href="http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/Gangfurdpropshaft.jpg" > >>target="new">shown here</a>). It would also be nice to really go over > >>the boat without being hindered by water. > >> > >>Your thoughts and experience are appreciated. > >> > >>Bruce > >>Gangfurd > >>Cal 28 - Hull 82 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >