mast wiring

There is a discussion going on in Sailnet about mast wiring and how to connect the wire harness at the step. I can't post to Sailnet from work so I thought I would add something here. When I rewired the Cal 40, I ran negative commons and hot wires to common terminals. The terminal screws can be connected by bridges or can be separated for each circuit. I have such a set of connectors in the head under the deck. The mast harness comes out of an opening below deck but the same principle could be used with a deck stepped mast, taking care that the water in the mast was drained and not allowed to infiltrate the sandwich structure of the deck. The harness goes into the head compartment and the circuits are attached there. I have a lengthy set of connectors since the wiring for the bow port-side lights is also there. The mast lights are connected by wires to the block of connectors. The negative side goes to a gang block connected to a single heavy gauge negative going back to the panel. The light circuits are all separate and, when it is time to pull the mast again, the wires are detached on the mast side. All the wiring from the panel and breakers stays as is. I know this is basic but maybe it will help someone with the project. I also have the "brain" of the electronic instruments there, as well. It will all be covered with a thin bit of mahogany plywood when I am finally finished. Latest project is finishing the pressure water and the holding tank. The cruising dodger is close to being finished. Next step, Catalina! That will probably be July, though. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96

Mike, Here's a suggestion on pressure water....It has merit if you have a water heater and limited tankage. I ran the hot water as a loop with replacing the couplers at each faucet with tee's. The circuit runs in half inch tubing from the heater outlet to the galley, then to the head sink, and to the shower, then back aft and through a small sureflo 1g/min pump (aft run uses 3/8 inch tubing to match the pump barbs) and to a tee in the water heater inlet. The pump is wired to a toggle at the electrical panel. We use the pump to circulate the water on demand to eliminate waste waiting for the hot water to reach the faucets. There is about 1 gallon in the tube between the heater and the galley -- run the pump 1 minute --; there is about two more gallons in the run to the head -- run the pump 3 minutes. I inserted a check valve inlet of the heater inlet so the water won't move backwards around the loop when the faucets are turned on. There is also a gate valve at the heater inlet to bleed the air from the system. The cold water circuits are unaltered. This really works. Regards, Duane Duane & Lynn Knize Marlyn, 1978 Cal 2-39, #18 Berthed: Emeryville, CA At 12:28 PM 4/26/2006, you wrote: >There is a discussion going on in Sailnet about mast wiring and how >to connect the wire >harness at the step. I can't post to Sailnet from work so I thought >I would add something >here. When I rewired the Cal 40, I ran negative commons and hot >wires to common >terminals. The terminal screws can be connected by bridges or can be >separated for each >circuit. I have such a set of connectors in the head under the deck. >The mast harness >comes out of an opening below deck but the same principle could be >used with a deck >stepped mast, taking care that the water in the mast was drained and >not allowed to >infiltrate the sandwich structure of the deck. The harness goes into >the head compartment >and the circuits are attached there. I have a lengthy set of >connectors since the wiring for >the bow port-side lights is also there. > >The mast lights are connected by wires to the block of connectors. >The negative side goes >to a gang block connected to a single heavy gauge negative going >back to the panel. The >light circuits are all separate and, when it is time to pull the >mast again, the wires are >detached on the mast side. All the wiring from the panel and >breakers stays as is. I know >this is basic but maybe it will help someone with the project. > >I also have the "brain" of the electronic instruments there, as >well. It will all be covered >with a thin bit of mahogany plywood when I am finally finished. > >Latest project is finishing the pressure water and the holding tank. >The cruising dodger is >close to being finished. Next step, Catalina! That will probably be >July, though. > >Mike Kennedy >Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > > > > >---------- >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group > "<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats>Cal_Boats" on the web. > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >---------- Duane & Lynn Knize Marlyn, 1978 Cal 2-39, #18 Berthed: Emeryville, CA

Good suggestions. I'll save the message. My son will have a fit if he reads that I'm thinking of a water heater and shower so we'll keep this just between us and the group. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 On Apr 26, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Duane Knize wrote: > Mike, > > Here's a suggestion on pressure water....It has merit if you have a > water heater and limited tankage. > > I ran the hot water as a loop with replacing the couplers at each > faucet with tee's. > The circuit runs in half inch tubing from the heater outlet to the > galley, then to the head sink, and to the shower, then back aft and > through a small sureflo 1g/min pump (aft run uses 3/8 inch tubing > to match the pump barbs) and to a tee in the water heater inlet. > The pump is wired to a toggle at the electrical panel. > > We use the pump to circulate the water on demand to eliminate waste > waiting for the hot water to reach the faucets. There is about 1 > gallon in the tube between the heater and the galley -- run the > pump 1 minute --; there is about two more gallons in the run to the > head -- run the pump 3 minutes. > > I inserted a check valve inlet of the heater inlet so the water > won't move backwards around the loop when the faucets are turned > on. There is also a gate valve at the heater inlet to bleed the > air from the system. > > The cold water circuits are unaltered. > > This really works. > > Regards, > Duane > > > Duane & Lynn Knize > Marlyn, 1978 Cal 2-39, #18 > Berthed: Emeryville, CA > > > At 12:28 PM 4/26/2006, you wrote: >> There is a discussion going on in Sailnet about mast wiring and >> how to connect the wire >> harness at the step. I can't post to Sailnet from work so I >> thought I would add something >> here. When I rewired the Cal 40, I ran negative commons and hot >> wires to common >> terminals. The terminal screws can be connected by bridges or can >> be separated for each >> circuit. I have such a set of connectors in the head under the >> deck. The mast harness >> comes out of an opening below deck but the same principle could be >> used with a deck >> stepped mast, taking care that the water in the mast was drained >> and not allowed to >> infiltrate the sandwich structure of the deck. The harness goes >> into the head compartment >> and the circuits are attached there. I have a lengthy set of >> connectors since the wiring for >> the bow port-side lights is also there. >> >> The mast lights are connected by wires to the block of connectors. >> The negative side goes >> to a gang block connected to a single heavy gauge negative going >> back to the panel. The >> light circuits are all separate and, when it is time to pull the >> mast again, the wires are >> detached on the mast side. All the wiring from the panel and >> breakers stays as is. I know >> this is basic but maybe it will help someone with the project. >> >> I also have the "brain" of the electronic instruments there, as >> well. It will all be covered >> with a thin bit of mahogany plywood when I am finally finished. >> >> Latest project is finishing the pressure water and the holding >> tank. The cruising dodger is >> close to being finished. Next step, Catalina! That will probably >> be July, though. >> >> Mike Kennedy >> Conquest Cal 40 # 96 >> >> >> >> >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> Visit your group "Cal_Boats " on the web. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. >> > Duane & Lynn Knize > Marlyn, 1978 Cal 2-39, #18 > Berthed: Emeryville, CA > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing > Boating > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >

It all sounds awfully heavy. I used to think I'd like to enter that boat in a race one day. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Michael Kennedy <mtkennedy1@...> wrote: > > Good suggestions. I'll save the message. My son will have a fit if he > reads that I'm thinking of a water heater and shower so we'll keep > this just between us and the group. > > Mike Kennedy > Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > On Apr 26, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Duane Knize wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > Here's a suggestion on pressure water....It has merit if you have a > > water heater and limited tankage. > > > > I ran the hot water as a loop with replacing the couplers at each > > faucet with tee's. > > The circuit runs in half inch tubing from the heater outlet to the > > galley, then to the head sink, and to the shower, then back aft and > > through a small sureflo 1g/min pump (aft run uses 3/8 inch tubing > > to match the pump barbs) and to a tee in the water heater inlet. > > The pump is wired to a toggle at the electrical panel. > > > > We use the pump to circulate the water on demand to eliminate waste > > waiting for the hot water to reach the faucets. There is about 1 > > gallon in the tube between the heater and the galley -- run the > > pump 1 minute --; there is about two more gallons in the run to the > > head -- run the pump 3 minutes. > > > > I inserted a check valve inlet of the heater inlet so the water > > won't move backwards around the loop when the faucets are turned > > on. There is also a gate valve at the heater inlet to bleed the > > air from the system. > > > > The cold water circuits are unaltered. > > > > This really works. > > > > Regards, > > Duane > > > > > > Duane & Lynn Knize > > Marlyn, 1978 Cal 2-39, #18 > > Berthed: Emeryville, CA > > > > > > At 12:28 PM 4/26/2006, you wrote: > >> There is a discussion going on in Sailnet about mast wiring and > >> how to connect the wire > >> harness at the step. I can't post to Sailnet from work so I > >> thought I would add something > >> here. When I rewired the Cal 40, I ran negative commons and hot > >> wires to common > >> terminals. The terminal screws can be connected by bridges or can > >> be separated for each > >> circuit. I have such a set of connectors in the head under the > >> deck. The mast harness > >> comes out of an opening below deck but the same principle could be > >> used with a deck > >> stepped mast, taking care that the water in the mast was drained > >> and not allowed to > >> infiltrate the sandwich structure of the deck. The harness goes > >> into the head compartment > >> and the circuits are attached there. I have a lengthy set of > >> connectors since the wiring for > >> the bow port-side lights is also there. > >> > >> The mast lights are connected by wires to the block of connectors. > >> The negative side goes > >> to a gang block connected to a single heavy gauge negative going > >> back to the panel. The > >> light circuits are all separate and, when it is time to pull the > >> mast again, the wires are > >> detached on the mast side. All the wiring from the panel and > >> breakers stays as is. I know > >> this is basic but maybe it will help someone with the project. > >> > >> I also have the "brain" of the electronic instruments there, as > >> well. It will all be covered > >> with a thin bit of mahogany plywood when I am finally finished. > >> > >> Latest project is finishing the pressure water and the holding > >> tank. The cruising dodger is > >> close to being finished. Next step, Catalina! That will probably > >> be July, though. > >> > >> Mike Kennedy > >> Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >> > >> Visit your group "Cal_Boats " on the web. > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > >> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >> > > Duane & Lynn Knize > > Marlyn, 1978 Cal 2-39, #18 > > Berthed: Emeryville, CA > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing > > Boating > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > >

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "michaelkennedy05" <michaelkennedy05@...> wrote: > > It all sounds awfully heavy. I used to think I'd like to enter that > boat in a race one day. Oh Oh. I'm busted. My son reads this list too. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 ## 96 > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Michael Kennedy <mtkennedy1@> > wrote: > > > > Good suggestions. I'll save the message. My son will have a fit if > he > > reads that I'm thinking of a water heater and shower so we'll > keep > > this just between us and the group. > > > > Mike Kennedy > > Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > > > On Apr 26, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Duane Knize wrote: > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > Here's a suggestion on pressure water....It has merit if you > have a > > > water heater and limited tankage. > > > > > > I ran the hot water as a loop with replacing the couplers at > each > > > faucet with tee's. > > > The circuit runs in half inch tubing from the heater outlet to > the > > > galley, then to the head sink, and to the shower, then back aft > and > > > through a small sureflo 1g/min pump (aft run uses 3/8 inch > tubing > > > to match the pump barbs) and to a tee in the water heater > inlet. > > > The pump is wired to a toggle at the electrical panel. > > > > > > We use the pump to circulate the water on demand to eliminate > waste > > > waiting for the hot water to reach the faucets. There is about > 1 > > > gallon in the tube between the heater and the galley -- run the > > > pump 1 minute --; there is about two more gallons in the run to > the > > > head -- run the pump 3 minutes. > > > > > > I inserted a check valve inlet of the heater inlet so the water > > > won't move backwards around the loop when the faucets are > turned > > > on. There is also a gate valve at the heater inlet to bleed > the > > > air from the system. > > > > > > The cold water circuits are unaltered. > > > > > > This really works. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Duane > > > > > > > > > Duane & Lynn Knize > > > Marlyn, 1978 Cal 2-39, #18 > > > Berthed: Emeryville, CA > > > > > > > > > At 12:28 PM 4/26/2006, you wrote: > > >> There is a discussion going on in Sailnet about mast wiring > and > > >> how to connect the wire > > >> harness at the step. I can't post to Sailnet from work so I > > >> thought I would add something > > >> here. When I rewired the Cal 40, I ran negative commons and > hot > > >> wires to common > > >> terminals. The terminal screws can be connected by bridges or > can > > >> be separated for each > > >> circuit. I have such a set of connectors in the head under the > > >> deck. The mast harness > > >> comes out of an opening below deck but the same principle could > be > > >> used with a deck > > >> stepped mast, taking care that the water in the mast was > drained > > >> and not allowed to > > >> infiltrate the sandwich structure of the deck. The harness > goes > > >> into the head compartment > > >> and the circuits are attached there. I have a lengthy set of > > >> connectors since the wiring for > > >> the bow port-side lights is also there. > > >> > > >> The mast lights are connected by wires to the block of > connectors. > > >> The negative side goes > > >> to a gang block connected to a single heavy gauge negative > going > > >> back to the panel. The > > >> light circuits are all separate and, when it is time to pull > the > > >> mast again, the wires are > > >> detached on the mast side. All the wiring from the panel and > > >> breakers stays as is. I know > > >> this is basic but maybe it will help someone with the project. > > >> > > >> I also have the "brain" of the electronic instruments there, > as > > >> well. It will all be covered > > >> with a thin bit of mahogany plywood when I am finally finished. > > >> > > >> Latest project is finishing the pressure water and the holding > > >> tank. The cruising dodger is > > >> close to being finished. Next step, Catalina! That will > probably > > >> be July, though. > > >> > > >> Mike Kennedy > > >> Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > >> > > >> Visit your group "Cal_Boats " on the web. > > >> > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > >> > > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > >> > > > Duane & Lynn Knize > > > Marlyn, 1978 Cal 2-39, #18 > > > Berthed: Emeryville, CA > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing > > > Boating > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Michael Kennedy <mtkennedy1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Good suggestions. I'll save the message. My son will have a fit if > > he > > > reads that I'm thinking of a water heater and shower so we'll > > keep > > > this just between us and the group. > I'm laughing to myself because the boat next to mine in the boat barn is a really pretty 42 foot Sabre from 1989. The owner bought her from the original owners last year. They kept the boat in top-notch condition and the new owner is doing the same. But he was amused at the novelty of having three heads and two showers below, plus a deck shower with hot & cold water. We in the Great Lakes are not accustomed to such luxuries. Chris Campbell