NC Marina Locations, Policies, and Rates

We currently sail our Cal 33-2 SD in the Indian River near Melbourne Florida. At some point in the future, we may wish to move the boat to NC. The best access from our landside location would be to the Albemarle Sound area, as in Plymouth or Edenton. Does anyone here sail that area, and if so, where are good marinas located? Are boats hauled for the winter in this area? If so, what is the sailing season? Do marinas require boats to be hauled or moved under hurricane watch? Thanks for any information. Al Waschka 1975 Cal-25 #1693, Sweet Mary 1985 Cal-33 #0026, Short Wave

Al, COME ON DOWN!! (Up actually) :-) We have our Cal 33-2 SD on Pierce Creek near Oriental, along with 2 others in the same marina. This location is on the Neuse River, with accessibility to all points of the Albemarle and Pamlico sounds. Ocean sailing is as about four hours away, via the Intracoastal Waterway. (Morehead inlet) The local Sailing club Neuse Sailing Association Plans a “Week long” cruise where members sail their boats to various port-o-calls before the summer heat builds. Twice in the past 3 years, they have made the trek to the Albemarle, Edenton, Manteo and exotic destinations. We have not participated. All of the people I have talked with have enjoyed the visit, and talk about the wonderful people and marinas. The water is thin in the Albemarle, limiting your sailing, and destinations trips may be limited. Washington (Little Washington) on the Pamlico Sound may offer an option worth considering. We have made several trips to Bath, Belhaven and like the area there as well. We leave our boat in the water year round. Most bottom paints will last 2-3 years. Divers can replace the zincs and scrub the bottom at a fraction of haul out cost. Our marina is fairly protected. Although boat storm prep is the owner’s responsibility, we can leave them in the slip at our marina. Volunteers come down to “boat watch” adjust lines and try to prevent dock rash, or other problems. This is usually up to the marina owner, and the level of insurance coverage for wind and water damages. Quite a few will demand all boats leave in the event of a named storm threatening the area. You will have to ask, if that helps you decide. I am not sure where your land side location you are considering. The land is flat in eastern NC, major highways run most direction making almost the entire coastal area available by car in 3-4 hours. Don’t limit your sailing area based on quick access to the boat. An hour in the car is easily a day’s sail by boat. During the summer, spring and fall, we are at the boat 3 out of 4 weekends. Winter we get down a least once a month, and have sailed on New Years day several times in the past. We live 4 ½ hours away in Greensboro, NC. If you are in the area, please give me a call. We would like a chance to show you around our little sailing community. John Raxter Cal 33 Erin Brook Oriental NC _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of aw… [at] bellsouth.net Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:41 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] NC Marina Locations, Policies, and Rates We currently sail our Cal 33-2 SD in the Indian River near Melbourne Florida. At some point in the future, we may wish to move the boat to NC. The best access from our landside location would be to the Albemarle Sound area, as in Plymouth or Edenton. Does anyone here sail that area, and if so, where are good marinas located? Are boats hauled for the winter in this area? If so, what is the sailing season? Do marinas require boats to be hauled or moved under hurricane watch? Thanks for any information. Al Waschka 1975 Cal-25 #1693, Sweet Mary 1985 Cal-33 #0026, Short Wave

I am currently boat shopping. The closing on my Cal 40 is this Saturday. I'm down-sizing and interested in the Cal 33-2. There are a few in my area of CT. I'm concerned about cockpit space. The seats look really short. How many people fit comfortably when sailing and is it possible to 'lounge' when anchored (I'm 6'2.5" tall). How is cabin space/bunk space for tall folks? Is it a pain to get to the quarter berth? Does the quarterberth get wet when sailing in rainy/strong conditions? Does anyone know how well the deep draft models sail to their rating (PHRF 132 in my area)? Any problems I should look for? I'm trying to find low-exterior-maintenance boats. How much of a chore are the Cal 33-2's considering they have the wood toerail, handrails and companionway sliders? Thanks for any and all comments on the 33-2. --Kevin ex-Cal 40 "Tumble Home" #164 (it's going home to CA)

Hi Kevin, I have an '88 Cal 33-2 (6'2" draft). Here's some answers to you questions: 1. Cockpit space seems adequate. There is room for two full-size people on each side bench. I'm 6'1" and am comfortable lying down on the cockpit benches. We've added teak seats on both sides of the stern rail on our 33-2 for even more sitting area. 2. Head room in the cabin is 6'2". The port-side settee is approximately 6' long. I can lie down on port-side with head and toes just touching. The stbd-side setee is trapezoid-shaped and much shorter lengthwise on the outer (hull) side. It can be turned into a 6' double berth but the room on the hull-side is a bit less due to the angled joinery. Both v-berth and qtrberth are approximately 6'2" long and big enough for me. 2. The qtrberth doesn't usually get wet sailing in any conditions if the sliding top hatch is pulled aft. 3. My PHRF rating is 138 (racing, recreational-equipment handicap). We're not quite racing up to our rating lately but that could be due to many factors including hull condition, sails, rig tuning, etc. 4. We have some areas of deck delamination and gelcoat cracking around stress points. Like many boats of this quality and age, they didn't seal the core material with epoxy around deck areas where hardware is mounted. The hull however is solid fiberglass, not cored. There are some problems that seem to be common to all of the Cal 33-2's (like leaking dorade boxes) however they are all easily corrected. 5. The maintenance required for exterior wood surfaces largely depends on personal preference. We use Cetol on our toerails, handrails, and around companionway. It makes the boat look better but does require some periodic upkeep. Cetol is fairly easy to apply and patch up later. I would consider the boat to be fairly low-maintenance overall. 6. One of the best features of the boat is that everything is accessible. 360 degree engine access, water/fuel tanks can be removed easily. Good access to steering quadrant and stuffing box. Large cockpit locker. It works for us. Best, Bill "Tupelo Honey" --- Kevin Tisdall <ti… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > I am currently boat shopping. The closing on my > Cal 40 is this > Saturday. I'm down-sizing and interested in the Cal > 33-2. There are a > few in my area of CT. > > I'm concerned about cockpit space. The seats look > really short. How > many people fit comfortably when sailing and is it > possible to 'lounge' > when anchored (I'm 6'2.5" tall). > > How is cabin space/bunk space for tall folks? Is it > a pain to get to > the quarter berth? > > Does the quarterberth get wet when sailing in > rainy/strong conditions? > > Does anyone know how well the deep draft models sail > to their rating > (PHRF 132 in my area)? > > Any problems I should look for? > > I'm trying to find low-exterior-maintenance boats. > How much of a chore > are the Cal 33-2's considering they have the wood > toerail, handrails > and companionway sliders? > > Thanks for any and all comments on the 33-2. > > --Kevin > > ex-Cal 40 "Tumble Home" #164 (it's going home to CA) > > > > > >

Bill, Thanks for the comments. That's the kind of info I'm looking for. I'm going to try and get a few rides on some local 33-2's soon. One is a friend's with shallow draft and the other is for sale with a deep draft. I definitely want deep draft. I just feel funny asking to go lie down on someone else's boat.....:) I'd appreciate anyone else that wants to chime in with more info / comments. --Kevin ex-Cal 40 "Tumble Home" #164 (it's going home to CA) --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Bill Terrell <bterrell3@...> wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > I have an '88 Cal 33-2 (6'2" draft). Here's some > answers to you questions: > > 1. Cockpit space seems adequate. There is room for > two full-size people on each side bench. I'm 6'1" and > am comfortable lying down on the cockpit benches. > We've added teak seats on both sides of the stern rail > on our 33-2 for even more sitting area. > > 2. Head room in the cabin is 6'2". The port-side > settee is approximately 6' long. I can lie down on > port-side with head and toes just touching. The > stbd-side setee is trapezoid-shaped and much shorter > lengthwise on the outer (hull) side. It can be turned > into a 6' double berth but the room on the hull-side > is a bit less due to the angled joinery. Both v-berth > and qtrberth are approximately 6'2" long and big > enough for me. > > 2. The qtrberth doesn't usually get wet sailing in > any conditions if the sliding top hatch is pulled aft. > > 3. My PHRF rating is 138 (racing, > recreational-equipment handicap). We're not quite > racing up to our rating lately but that could be due > to many factors including hull condition, sails, rig > tuning, etc. > > 4. We have some areas of deck delamination and gelcoat > cracking around stress points. Like many boats of > this quality and age, they didn't seal the core > material with epoxy around deck areas where hardware > is mounted. The hull however is solid fiberglass, not > cored. There are some problems that seem to be common > to all of the Cal 33-2's (like leaking dorade boxes) > however they are all easily corrected. > > 5. The maintenance required for exterior wood surfaces > largely depends on personal preference. We use Cetol > on our toerails, handrails, and around companionway. > It makes the boat look better but does require some > periodic upkeep. Cetol is fairly easy to apply and > patch up later. I would consider the boat to be > fairly low-maintenance overall. > > 6. One of the best features of the boat is that > everything is accessible. 360 degree engine access, > water/fuel tanks can be removed easily. Good access > to steering quadrant and stuffing box. Large cockpit > locker. > > It works for us. > > Best, > Bill > "Tupelo Honey" > > --- Kevin Tisdall <tiz_1@...> wrote: > > > I am currently boat shopping. The closing on my > > Cal 40 is this > > Saturday. I'm down-sizing and interested in the Cal > > 33-2. There are a > > few in my area of CT. > > > > I'm concerned about cockpit space. The seats look > > really short. How > > many people fit comfortably when sailing and is it > > possible to 'lounge' > > when anchored (I'm 6'2.5" tall). > > > > How is cabin space/bunk space for tall folks? Is it > > a pain to get to > > the quarter berth? > > > > Does the quarterberth get wet when sailing in > > rainy/strong conditions? > > > > Does anyone know how well the deep draft models sail > > to their rating > > (PHRF 132 in my area)? > > > > Any problems I should look for? > > > > I'm trying to find low-exterior-maintenance boats. > > How much of a chore > > are the Cal 33-2's considering they have the wood > > toerail, handrails > > and companionway sliders? > > > > Thanks for any and all comments on the 33-2. > > > > --Kevin > > > > ex-Cal 40 "Tumble Home" #164 (it's going home to CA) > > > > > > > > > > > > >