Rivets Again (Scott)
Forgot to say I dipped each rivet in Lanocote prior to insertion.
Cheers
Charlie
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Husar Charlie
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 7:33 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Pop rivet help URGENT
Fiver, I like your passion.
Hi, Scott. I'll probably catch you at Whitehall today if you haven't
already pulled out.
Steve Seals sends SS rivets with his spreader bracket assemblies. I
used to use aluminum on the sides of the mast base for turning blocks,
and every coupla years one would explode out. Kaboom... Quite an
effect. Luckily, nobody got hurt.
I busted an Arrow hand tool installing the Seals parts. Looked like a
cast aluminum head on the tool. I went and got a Stanley with an
apparent steel head (same price), and got through the job with sore
hands as Fiver indicates. If I were doing more of them, I'd get into
air tools, compressor and all. Maybe even a spray gun. Here I go
again. Lessee... Five kinds of sanders, seven kinds of saws...
Cheers
Charlie
Annapolis
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of slickbutfoxbuger
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:31 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Pop rivet help URGENT
greetings All....
i really hate to be contrary to what seems to be the prevailing
wisdom, but......
having specialized in just this sort of thing over the years
(structure integrity viruses saltwater environment). and having done a
little aluminum mast work, and worked with Raytheon a bit on the same. i
got to tell you, i would never use an aluminum pop-rivets for any
structural attachment, period! and i don't give two-hoots-and-a- holler
what dis-similar metal i was dealing with. there are always "ways" of
dealing with possible rivet-erosion and or corrosion. even when putting
the "guts" into sub's, we used ton's of pop-rivet's. aluminum for the
non-structure work of putting little storage lockers together and even
putting the hinges on them as well as some of the SS hard-wear on them
too. but where it came to the structural fastening requiring pop-rivets;
that was all done with SS rivets through aluminum sheets.
you can see a bit of corrosion and replace your rivet. but you can't
see a damned rivet about ready to fracture from stress! you can always
have one of the part's power-coated as Raytheon does their mast-mounted
radar mounts. or use an electrical isolating gel of some- sort to keep
salt-water mostly out. we are talking "Safety-at-Sea"
here, folks. i always use the strongest, not the prettiest or the
longest lasting.
there is also the practice of putting a backing washer on the
inside (the blind side of the rivet). this gives the rivet even more
metal for holding and lessens the stress on the thin surrounding
aluminum.
as far as a good rivet gun goes;
try a commercial truck parts sails place. that is where i got my
air powered pop-rivet gun for $100. and that thing will drive anything
made; no more sore hands.......
fiver of old 54
(built like a battleship; sails like a sub)
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--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Scott Sauvageot"
<rxnumbercruncher@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm assembling my new dwyer boom and using 3/16 SS pop rivets for
the end
> cap and gooseneck casting. I'm not attaching my mainsheet to the
end cap.
> Would it be ok to use aluminum pop rivets instead or SS or does
someone know
> where I can find an affordable pop rivet gun for 3/16 stainless
poprivets.
> My poor sears "commercial" tool won't handle them (as I found out
when I
> shattered the head off the thing trying)
>
> Please any advice welcome
>
> Scott Sauvageot
>
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