jib sheeting angle--Cal 20

Listees: My Cal 20 and the other one here have fairleads on the deck, inboard of the shrouds. On my boat. they're fixed, and on the other one, they're on a fore-and-aft track. Sailing the other Cal 20 recently, we tried running the jib sheets through these inboard fairleads instead of the usual jib sheet blocks, which are outboard. It gives a very tight sheeting angle when close-hauled. The only problem is that you have to re-reeve the sheets when going from beating to reaching or running, because the inboard fairleads give a fair lead only when close-hauled. Farther off the wind, the sheet would run into the shrouds. So, here are my two questions: *First*, is this what the fairleads are for? *And second*, is there an easy way to switch from the inboard sheeting position to the outboard one? Use two sets of sheets? Reeve the lazy sheet through the next-to-be-used fairlead or block just before tacking or changing course? Chris Campbell Still figuring out the rigging on Cal 20 #1220

Could they have been for a storm jib or #3 genoa that only came back to the shrouds? THe position you describe sounds like my #3 (105%) genoa track placement on my Cal 25, though I'm not certain how far aft the fairleads you describe are located. Cheeres, Scott >From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Cal_Boats] jib sheeting angle--Cal 20 >Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:58:18 -0400 > >Listees: > >My Cal 20 and the other one here have fairleads on the deck, inboard of the >shrouds. On my boat. they're fixed, and on the other one, they're on a >fore-and-aft track. > >Sailing the other Cal 20 recently, we tried running the jib sheets through >these inboard fairleads instead of the usual jib sheet blocks, which are >outboard. It gives a very tight sheeting angle when close-hauled. > >The only problem is that you have to re-reeve the sheets when going from >beating to reaching or running, because the inboard fairleads give a fair >lead only when close-hauled. Farther off the wind, the sheet would run >into the shrouds. > >So, here are my two questions: > >*First*, is this what the fairleads are for? > >*And second*, is there an easy way to switch from the inboard sheeting >position to the outboard one? Use two sets of sheets? Reeve the lazy >sheet through the next-to-be-used fairlead or block just before tacking or >changing course? > >Chris Campbell >Still figuring out the rigging on Cal 20 #1220

Scott Sauvageot wrote: > > Could they have been for a storm jib or #3 genoa that only came back > to the > shrouds? THe position you describe sounds like my #3 (105%) genoa track > placement on my Cal 25, though I'm not certain how far aft the > fairleads you > describe are located. > The fairleads worked very well on the standard working jib we were flying. The jib was sheeted inside of all shrouds very nicely. On my boat, it might be a bit messier, since the forward lower shrouds had been moved inboard. Chris Campbell

Chris, Does this photo of the old Cal 20 for $200 show what you are decribing? I see a small inside track. See: http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/oldcal28s/cal%2020%20d.jpg Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:32 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] jib sheeting angle--Cal 20 Could they have been for a storm jib or #3 genoa that only came back to the shrouds? THe position you describe sounds like my #3 (105%) genoa track placement on my Cal 25, though I'm not certain how far aft the fairleads you describe are located. Cheeres, Scott >From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Cal_Boats] jib sheeting angle--Cal 20 >Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:58:18 -0400 > >Listees: > >My Cal 20 and the other one here have fairleads on the deck, inboard of the >shrouds. On my boat. they're fixed, and on the other one, they're on a >fore-and-aft track. > >Sailing the other Cal 20 recently, we tried running the jib sheets through >these inboard fairleads instead of the usual jib sheet blocks, which are >outboard. It gives a very tight sheeting angle when close-hauled. > >The only problem is that you have to re-reeve the sheets when going from >beating to reaching or running, because the inboard fairleads give a fair >lead only when close-hauled. Farther off the wind, the sheet would run >into the shrouds. > >So, here are my two questions: > >*First*, is this what the fairleads are for? > >*And second*, is there an easy way to switch from the inboard sheeting >position to the outboard one? Use two sets of sheets? Reeve the lazy >sheet through the next-to-be-used fairlead or block just before tacking or >changing course? > >Chris Campbell >Still figuring out the rigging on Cal 20 #1220

Bruce Stirling wrote: > > Chris, > > Does this photo of the old Cal 20 for $200 show what you are > decribing? I see a small inside track. > > See: http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/oldcal28s/cal%2020%20d.jpg > <http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28/oldcal28s/cal%2020%20d.jpg> > Bruce-- That's (or "those are") it. That boat has two on each side--athwartships ones, and fore-and-aft ones, both located inside the shrouds. You'd have lots of choices on that boat, by moving the little white fairlead on its car from one track to another, and moving along each track. By the way, if that boat is still for sale, post a notice on the list with location details. Then we can encourage Cal sailors in that vicinity to encourage local folks to pick up a cheap route into sailing. I don't think I've raved wildly about the wonders of the Cal 20 yet this week, so here goes. They are just such cool little boats, such well-mannered vessels, and such a delight to sail. And they fit with my theory that small boats get sailed more. Chris Campbell

Chris: I can't help you with the fairlead question, but if you have a mid-ships cleat, here's a helpful tip I got from the Sabre list: take the pressure of the sail with the lazy sheet on the mid-ships cleat and then move your originally-loaded sheet wherever you like it. Once rerouted, return the lazy sheet to its former status and "Bob's your Uncle!" Jon Myers Occasional ballast and crew, Cal 3-29 Bay Breeze From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:58 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] jib sheeting angle--Cal 20 Listees: My Cal 20 and the other one here have fairleads on the deck, inboard of the shrouds. On my boat. they're fixed, and on the other one, they're on a fore-and-aft track. Sailing the other Cal 20 recently, we tried running the jib sheets through these inboard fairleads instead of the usual jib sheet blocks, which are outboard. It gives a very tight sheeting angle when close-hauled. The only problem is that you have to re-reeve the sheets when going from beating to reaching or running, because the inboard fairleads give a fair lead only when close-hauled. Farther off the wind, the sheet would run into the shrouds. So, here are my two questions: First, is this what the fairleads are for? And second, is there an easy way to switch from the inboard sheeting position to the outboard one? Use two sets of sheets? Reeve the lazy sheet through the next-to-be-used fairlead or block just before tacking or changing course? Chris Campbell Still figuring out the rigging on Cal 20 #1220 ----------------------------------------- ************************************************** This e-mail and any of its attachments may contain Exelon Corporation proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to the Exelon Corporation family of Companies. This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout. Thank You. **************************************************

jo… [at] peco-energy.com wrote: Chris: I can't help you with the fairlead question, but if you have a mid-ships cleat, here's a helpful tip I got from the Sabre list: take the pressure of the sail with the lazy sheet on the mid-ships cleat and then move your originally-loaded sheet wherever you like it. Once rerouted, return the lazy sheet to its former status and "Bob's your Uncle!" Jon: That was what I was thinking, described in another way. Basically, move the lazy sheet to the lee side, let it become the working sheet, unload the old working/now lazy sheet, and move that to the other side. In my method, the sheets end up changing sides in the process. Works a lot easier with a crew! Chris Campbell