RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 running rigging (Chris)

Hi, Chris. I'm thinking something like Samson Ultralite 5/16" for halyards. The fatter line is easier to handle, and this stuff does not add much weight. Also very low stretch. There is a CAL 20 at the end of our dock. I'll check the backstay set-up. Offhand, I'd say an SS ring with three blocks attached into a "Y" arrangement with an inverted "Y" set-up for the lines to pull it down. I think I can find some pictures if you are interested. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Collins Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 running rigging I was just about sell my Cal 20 when, after six years on the list, my name finally came up for a slip at the city owned sailboat marina (nice, and cheap). So I'm keeping her now but need to update some rigging. I need advise on how to configured the main sheet, the backstay adjuster and whether or not I can get away with 1/4" rope halyards to replace rotting the 1/8" wire/rope. Also, has anyone experience with the new SpicingNut? https://ssl.perfora.net/splicingnut.com/index.php?page=directions More to come ... Thanks, Chris Chris Collins '63 Cal 20 #323 "don't know yet" Nashville, TN ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/A1TolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links

I added an adjustable backstay to my Cal 20 and Cal 2-29. On the Cal 20, I cut the backstay short and put a fitting and shackled a turning block on the end. Then had line tied on one side of the stern thru the turning block and block and tackle with cam cleat on the other side of stern. On the 29, I already had a split backstay, so I added removed the stay pin from each backstay chain plate and replaced with a pin shackle. This allowed me to connect to both sides and I used a ring at the top where the backstay splits and added two wire sheaves on each side of the ring and a turning block on the bottom. I tied off one end on the stern ran thru the turning block and block and tackled with cam to opposite side of stern. Very similar. Both work well. Mark Cal 2-29 Pelican ----- Original Message ----- From: Husar Charlie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 5:52 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 running rigging (Chris) Hi, Chris. I'm thinking something like Samson Ultralite 5/16" for halyards. The fatter line is easier to handle, and this stuff does not add much weight. Also very low stretch. There is a CAL 20 at the end of our dock. I'll check the backstay set-up. Offhand, I'd say an SS ring with three blocks attached into a "Y" arrangement with an inverted "Y" set-up for the lines to pull it down. I think I can find some pictures if you are interested. Cheers Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Collins Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:02 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 running rigging I was just about sell my Cal 20 when, after six years on the list, my name finally came up for a slip at the city owned sailboat marina (nice, and cheap). So I'm keeping her now but need to update some rigging. I need advise on how to configured the main sheet, the backstay adjuster and whether or not I can get away with 1/4" rope halyards to replace rotting the 1/8" wire/rope. Also, has anyone experience with the new SpicingNut? https://ssl.perfora.net/splicingnut.com/index.php?page=directions More to come ... Thanks, Chris Chris Collins '63 Cal 20 #323 "don't know yet" Nashville, TN ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/A1TolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing Boating ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks Charlie. Definitely interested in pictures. Chris (Collins) > Hi, Chris. I'm thinking something like Samson Ultralite 5/16" for halyards. > The fatter line is easier to handle, and this stuff does not add much weight. > Also very low stretch. There is a CAL 20 at the end of our dock. I'll check > the backstay set-up. Offhand, I'd say an SS ring with three blocks attached > into a "Y" arrangement with an inverted "Y" set-up for the lines to pull it > down. I think I can find some pictures if you are interested. > > Cheers > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of Chris Collins > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:02 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 running rigging > > I was just about sell my Cal 20 when, after six years on the list, my name > finally came up for a slip at the city owned sailboat marina (nice, and > cheap). So I'm keeping her now but need to update some rigging. > > I need advise on how to configured the main sheet, the backstay adjuster and > whether or not I can get away with 1/4" rope halyards to replace rotting the > 1/8" wire/rope. > > Also, has anyone experience with the new SpicingNut? > https://ssl.perfora.net/splicingnut.com/index.php?page=directions > > More to come ... > > Thanks, > > Chris > Chris Collins > '63 Cal 20 #323 > "don't know yet" > Nashville, TN > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

Mark, Thanks for the info. Very helpful. Could you possibly take a few photos of your backstay arrangement for me? I'm hopelessly visual. Chris (Collins) > I added an adjustable backstay to my Cal 20 and Cal 2-29. On the Cal 20, I cut > the backstay short and put a fitting and shackled a turning block on the end. > Then had line tied on one side of the stern thru the turning block and block > and tackle with cam cleat on the other side of stern. On the 29, I already had > a split backstay, so I added removed the stay pin from each backstay chain > plate and replaced with a pin shackle. This allowed me to connect to both > sides and I used a ring at the top where the backstay splits and added two > wire sheaves on each side of the ring and a turning block on the bottom. I > tied off one end on the stern ran thru the turning block and block and tackled > with cam to opposite side of stern. Very similar. Both work well. > > Mark > Cal 2-29 > Pelican >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Husar Charlie <mailto:hu… [at] bah.com> >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 5:52 PM >> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 running rigging (Chris) >> >> Hi, Chris. I'm thinking something like Samson Ultralite 5/16" for halyards. >> The fatter line is easier to handle, and this stuff does not add much weight. >> Also very low stretch. There is a CAL 20 at the end of our dock. I'll check >> the backstay set-up. Offhand, I'd say an SS ring with three blocks attached >> into a "Y" arrangement with an inverted "Y" set-up for the lines to pull it >> down. I think I can find some pictures if you are interested. >> >> Cheers >> Charlie >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Chris Collins >> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:02 PM >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 running rigging >> >> I was just about sell my Cal 20 when, after six years on the list, my name >> finally came up for a slip at the city owned sailboat marina (nice, and >> cheap). So I'm keeping her now but need to update some rigging. >> >> I need advise on how to configured the main sheet, the backstay adjuster and >> whether or not I can get away with 1/4" rope halyards to replace rotting the >> 1/8" wire/rope. >> >> Also, has anyone experience with the new SpicingNut? >> https://ssl.perfora.net/splicingnut.com/index.php?page=directions >> >> More to come ... >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chris >> Chris Collins >> '63 Cal 20 #323 >> "don't know yet" >> Nashville, TN >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SPONSORED LINKS >> >> Boating sailing >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sa >> iling+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=KgsPLsahA8AB__qRyAt_XQ> >> Sailing boat >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+boat&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Saili >> ng+boat&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=oZUJLnrR0FEbvZ5o13Ffaw> Sailing >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+bo >> at&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=eGOXnwatS3x0LYN3XxVdNA> >> Boating >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating&w1=Boating+sailing&w2=Sailing+bo >> at&w3=Sailing&w4=Boating&c=4&s=65&.sig=yMCAyUrqzhoqLD5Ydiy-Rg> >> >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> * Visit your group "Cal_Boats <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats> " on >> the web. >> * >> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> * Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> >> * >> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service >> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . >> >> >>

Does anyone know if 1/4" line will run freely through the masthead sheeves designed for 1/8" wire? I replaced the wire/rope halyards on Courtship--my old 2-27--with 3/8" stayset-X (I think) without a problem, but not sure if I'll need to replace the sheeves on the Cal 20. I'd really like to order new halyards today. The sailing bug's bitten me pretty hard again. Thanks, Chris Chris Collins '63 Cal 20 #323 "don't know yet" Nashville, TN

Most of you are too experienced to remember the kind of fun some of us are still having, so with the idea of providing a bit of entertainment, I submit this latest log entry on the adventures of my Cal 28. It's a bit long, but it does cover the Memorial Day weekend: My wife and I hadn't been to San Diego together since before my brother and I tried to the shoot the Embarcadero Pier in our Cal 28 sailboat while gang members harrassed us from above. Some of you might recall that last adventure, although I note it was deleted from the online messages. It was time to return and get that death defying rush again, and to demonstrate our sailing prowess to the Californians. So with renewed spirit, we headed into the desert night in a "new" 1981 Datsun 280ZX, hoping to kill two birds with one stone. A check out drive for the car, and yet another check out cruise for the boat. We blasted down the highway, trusting in Japanese technology. We arrived at the marina at about 3:30 a.m. and promptly passed out. The Datsun passed inspection. Saturday morning San Diego was gray and cloudy. Gale winds were forecast for islands off the coast of LA. We hung out on the boat, too tired after that drive to haul ourselves over the lifeline. We tidied up and talked to other marina residents and ate stale chips and pretzels found onboard. One guy was working on a Nissan outboard a few boats down. I was happy to know he knew a great deal about motors. I was jealous with envy when he hit the electric start button on his motor and it fired right up. I asked him how much the electric starter cost. He said, "around $200.00." He then walked over to our boat to show me a few things in response to my telling him about my bad kill switch. He started the motor with a single pull, said it sounded good, and then pressed a button below the choke, thinking it was a kill switch. It made a bad sound, and he said, "there's your electric starter button." Joy! I immediately called my brother in Phoenix to tell him we had an electric starter! Hurray! So we had that going for us. Sunday we spent time hooking up the anchors and generally checking things out. After the near miss at the pier, I vowed never to leave the dock again without all sails and anchors ready to go. We decided to hoist all sails at the dock, just to see if we could. Sure enough, the main sail got stuck again. A woman walked by and said we needed some kind of lubricant, which she had on her boat. She invited me over her place to borrow some lubricant. My wife just looked on and urged me to follow her. I didn't want to. I delayed a bit, and then was not able to find where she went, although I did try. Instead, I went to the store and bought some grease spray in a can. It worked great. Later someone told me it would attract dirt. A bit later, the woman's husband showed up and said his wife thought we could "use some help." We already had the sail up, so he introduced us to others, and a sailing party was organized. We were all to meet somewhere in the bay, charge around awhile, anchor, row to shore, and have a pot luck. Right . . . . (we have never anchored and have no tender). We were too tired to even think about hauling in the large genoa jib, so we never hoisted it. We sailed around a few hours under main sail alone without incident, and waved at the others on the water. We were left in their wakes as we bobbed along. Returning to the dock, my wife manned the Cal's rail with docking line in hand, ready to tie us up. As we neared the mooring and made the final turn into the slip, my wife claimed we were about to hit the dock. I disagreed (from 28 feet away) and looked around to make sure. We were only about two feet away when I looked up and noticed my wife was gone. She could only be in the water. I jumped to the dock to make sure the 6000 lb. boat didn't smash her. I looked down, and there she was in the water between the boat and the dock, hanging on to the line with one hand. There was only about 18 inches between the boat and concrete. She reached out with her other hand, and I pulled her onto the dock. We secured the boat and looked around, hoping no one saw our latest sweet move. It was too late. Boaters on the third deck of a big power boat two rows away were all pointing at us. My wife ran into the boat, too embarrassed to emerge again before dark. She suffered what appeared to be two broken fingers. She said she "took one for the boat." My wife never let go of the line in her hand. She said it was a short line, and as she jumped, the length was too short to reach the dock, snapping her back into the water. She used to be a member of the girl's gymnastic team. That was enough excitement for one day. The next day, Monday, we were just going to skip it all, what with my wife's busted fingers. But she proved game, and said she wanted to go out again. This time time we thought we'd raise the genoa and do the full sailing adventure. To make sure the genoa went up easily, I thought I'd hoist it at the dock and check that it was AOK. Our slip sits right in front of the restaurant. I knew eyes were on us. I meant to ensure there would be no surprises. The jib was in a sail bag at the bow, where my brother and I vowed it should forever remain after a motor failure caught us with all sails below decks. I very carefully attached everything while the sail remained inside the bag. All I needed to do was haul it up the line. I did. As the sail surged skyward for the whole marina and restaurant to see, something didn't look right. I watched the sail as I pulled on the sheet, happy no snags were making us look bad. The sail was about 2/3's hoisted when I realized the problem. IT WAS UPSIDE DOWN!!! I was horrified. I immediately tried to lower it, but IT GOT CAUGHT!!! There was no helping me now! I tugged and pulled, but the #@^%^#@*^$*@!! just stayed there, flying high for all to see, the broad base at the top, and the tip of the sail on deck. I thought about walking away and leaving my wife alone to explain it. I called her to help me out, and I explained why it looked a bit strange. We started laughing hysterically, trying not to look at the restaurant windows. Finally, with a great tug and with all of my 220 lbs. on the line, the sail gave way and came crashing down onto the deck. Speed was of the essence. We needed to move fast before someone official asked for my credentials. The idea was to launch and get as far away from the marina as possible. We shoved off, vowing to improve over our last effort. My wife gave me grief each time we watched other boats softly come to a rest after being out on the water. She pointed out how all of the other sailors came in solo, slow as you please, right into their moorings (into the wind), and stepped off like they were stepping onto a curb in a parking lot. I explained to her that their boats were smaller, weighed less, and that they were more maneuverable at slow speeds. I reminded her we were a 28 foot boat in a 25 foot downwind slip. The others did not suffer from this problem. I told my wife I would see how slow we could go under control as we left the marina. It was practice for our return maneuver. We walked it out of the slip, pointed the bow towards the exit, jumped on, and hit the gas. We took off a bit fast, so I cut the power on the Nissan. Our sails were down. The speed dropped quickly as I tried to mirror the slow speed of the smaller boats. I succeeded, and we putted along the side channel towards the larger channel that exits to the bay. I was pleased at how slow I was moving, steering the boat from one side to another, as we slowly moved towards the main channel. All was going smoothly. We thought again of the upside down genoa and laughed hysterically, glad we had not tried to hoist it on the bay in the presence of our new marina friends. A 90 degree right turn was required at the main channel. Just as we slowly moved into the main channel and tried to make the turn, the boat refused to respond. The wind and main channel current caught the slow moving boat and pushed us to the left! Not to worry, we were still moving slowly forward. All I needed to do was jump on the gas, right? I did. The Cal 28 roared forward. I pulled on the tiller to make the 90 degree right turn but the boat continued to charge straight forward, gaining speed, charging directly towards all of the large power yachts moored on the main channel. #@^%^#@*^$*@!! The main channel was only about fifty feet wide, and I was already halfway across it, with no response from the tiller at all! I slammed on the brakes with the cockpit remote control by throwing the motor into reverse and gunning it full throttle, hoping to stop and hoping to avoid ramming the big boats. I just read in the owner's manual that one should avoid switching gears in this fashion. People were now emerging on to their power boat decks, concern on their faces, as we charged down on them full speed. Finally, the reverse thrust kicked in and we halted forward progress about five feet short of the first power boat, much to the relief of the people on her deck. My wife was on the bow, smiling at them silently, ready to damage their boats with her feet. We were now drifting left, and gaining reverse speed, backing toward a 75 foot super high-tech luxury boat moored on the main channel, too big to fit into a slip. As we picked up speed in reverse, my thought was to repeat the same maneuver, and to move forward under control and to finally make that 90 degree right turn to freedom. Luck was not on my side. The tiller was ripped from my hand and slammed around by the speed of the water running past the rudder in reverse. The spinning tiller almost sent me overboard as it whipped around. I think I demonstrated this trick several times. My memory was affected by the stress of the situation. I remember a guy in a Zodiac raft with an outboard coming out. I guessed he was there to assist me, but all I could think of was, #@^%^#@*^$*@!! Get out the way!" He calmly and silently stood by, while he kept a wary eye on me. He was soon joined by a second Zodiac. I tried to make eye contact and my excuses while we spiraled in a circle demontrating my tiller trick, alternating between forward and reverse gears. I saw them go by several times as I appeared to be caught in a whirlpool of my own making. Miraculously, each time I neared a zillion dollar boat and approached bankruptcy, we stopped and pulled away from disaster. I finally regained control, but to my horror, I was traveling in reverse. Every time I made the transition from forward to reverse, or vice versa, all control was lost. I elected to stay in reverse. I backed out of the main channel, traveling at least 100 yards, going by gawking onlookers on the fishing pier and on other boats. Doing my best to pretend I planned it that way, I made like a politician and waved, again making my excuses to the two Zodiacs as I backed away triumphantly in reverse. In front of the channel to the bay, with plenty of steerage, I made a very nice turn and blasted away! We had a very successful sail. Sailing was the easy part. So much for a little rest and relaxation. We got back at midnight Monday.

Bruce - You are a great writer and a wonderful self-deprecating humorist. Thanks so much for this wonderful story! Made my day. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet

Bruce: I'll add a few comments. Bear in mind that I have accumulated a large number of really dumb maneuvers in my sailing memory, too. I'm just a bit concerned that you are condensing them into a small amount of time. It sounds like you need to make an effort to learn your mechanical systems. Whether an outboard has electric starting or not is quite evident. You can tell by the battery and electrical cables associated with it, without even taking the cover off, or you can see the starter motor when you do take the cover off. I'd be reluctant to sail very far without knowing something about the basic systems. Take some time to learn. It's equally important to make sure that the sails work--halyards run free, sail slides do slide, shackles operate properly, and all that. You can usually make do without power, but only if you can make the boat go as she's supposed to, via the wind. You can't do without both. For sail-related lube, avoid greases and oils, and (in my view) avoid fancy solutions. My favorite stuff is old-fashioned parafin wax, the stuff that covers the top of jars of homemade jellies. If you don't encounter homemade jellies, you need a better set of friends, neighbors, and relatives, and you'll need to buy the wax at a store. I rub it on sail slides or slugs and on any surfaces that slide. It's durable, waterproof, clean, and cheap. Buy a good basic sailing book and learn the lingo. Knowing the terms is a central part of sailing and knowing how to sail safely is, too. Both of them are pleasurable parts of the experience. One way to be better sailors is to sail with people who have done it for a long time. Most sailing folks are generous with knowledge. Take some time to hang out with them and observe how they do things. The most basic concern afloat is personal safety for your crew and also for yourself. Broken fingers are not a major injury but they are no fun for the victim either. The second concern is for the safety of others, those boats you almost ran into. The third priority ought to be the safety of your own boat. These are all important things and you don't want to be messing up with all three simultaneously. Maybe you need to slow down all steps. I've hanked a sail on wrong before, but I noticed it before hoisting it. Take some time to examine things as you're doing them. I can remember my Dad getting ready to shackle the main halyard onto the sail, and holding the shackle end of the halyard out from the mast to make sure it led properly and wasn't twisted with another halyard, then doing the same thing with the other end. The reason for making that lettle visual check was evident the first time I got a sail hoisted halfway and noticed that it wouldn't go any farther because two halyards were crossed. For me, the challenge of sailing is going into a hostile environment and doing it safely, with risks minimized. The water is a hostile environment for humans. Being afloat is inherently dangerous. Managing this risk is your challenge. Doing it well is a sign of skill and intelligence. Doing it poorly is a sign of other things. Slow down. Think ahead. Study your boat and its systems. Think critically. It's fun to reminisce about dumbass things we've survived, but it's a lot more fun to have safe adventures that turn out well. Master the rudiments of safe boat handling and then you will be launched on the great path to becoming an ever more skillful sailor, which is an infinite challenge. Chris Campbell Bruce Stirling wrote: > Most of you are too experienced to remember the kind of fun some of us > are still having, so with the idea of providing a bit of > entertainment, I submit this latest log entry on the adventures of my > Cal 28 <http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28>. It's a bit long, but it > does cover the Memorial Day weekend: > > My wife and I hadn't been to San Diego together since before my > brother and I tried to the shoot the Embarcadero Pier > <http://www.pierfishing.com/pier_of_the_month/08-98.html>in our Cal 28 > sailboat while gang members harrassed us from above. Some of you > might recall that last adventure, although I note it was deleted from > the online messages. It was time to return and get that death defying > rush again, and to demonstrate our sailing prowess to the > Californians. So with renewed spirit, we headed into the desert night > in a "new" 1981 Datsun 280ZX, hoping to kill two birds with one > stone. A check out drive for the car, and yet another check out > cruise for the boat. We blasted down the highway, trusting in > Japanese technology. We arrived at the marina at about 3:30 a.m. and > promptly passed out. The Datsun passed inspection. > > Saturday morning San Diego was gray and cloudy. Gale winds were > forecast for islands off the coast of LA. We hung out on the boat, > too tired after that drive to haul ourselves over the lifeline. We > tidied up and talked to other marina residents and ate stale chips and > pretzels found onboard. One guy was working on a Nissan outboard a > few boats down. I was happy to know he knew a great deal about > motors. I was jealous with envy when he hit the electric start button > on his motor and it fired right up. I asked him how much the electric > starter cost. He said, "around $200.00." He then walked over to our > boat to show me a few things in response to my telling him about my > bad kill switch. He started the motor with a single pull, said it > sounded good, and then pressed a button below the choke, thinking it > was a kill switch. It made a bad sound, and he said, "there's your > electric starter button." Joy! I immediately called my brother in > Phoenix to tell him we had an electric starter! Hurray! > > So we had that going for us. > > Sunday we spent time hooking up the anchors and generally checking > things out. After the near miss at the pier, I vowed never to leave > the dock again without all sails and anchors ready to go. We decided > to hoist all sails at the dock, just to see if we could. Sure enough, > the main sail got stuck again. A woman walked by and said we needed > some kind of lubricant, which she had on her boat. She invited me > over her place to borrow some lubricant. My wife just looked on and > urged me to follow her. I didn't want to. I delayed a bit, and then > was not able to find where she went, although I did try. Instead, I > went to the store and bought some grease spray in a can. It worked > great. Later someone told me it would attract dirt. A bit later, the > woman's husband showed up and said his wife thought we could "use some > help." We already had the sail up, so he introduced us to others, and > a sailing party was organized. We were all to meet somewhere in the > bay, charge around awhile, anchor, row to shore, and have a pot > luck. Right . . . . (we have never anchored and have no tender). > We were too tired to even think about hauling in the large genoa jib, > so we never hoisted it. We sailed around a few hours under main sail > alone without incident, and waved at the others on the water. We were > left in their wakes as we bobbed along. > > Returning to the dock, my wife manned the Cal's rail with docking line > in hand, ready to tie us up. As we neared the mooring and made the > final turn into the slip, my wife claimed we were about to hit the > dock. I disagreed (from 28 feet away) and looked around to make > sure. We were only about two feet away when I looked up and noticed > my wife was gone. She could only be in the water. I jumped to the > dock to make sure the 6000 lb. boat didn't smash her. I looked down, > and there she was in the water between the boat and the dock, hanging > on to the line with one hand. There was only about 18 inches between > the boat and concrete. She reached out with her other hand, and I > pulled her onto the dock. We secured the boat and looked around, > hoping no one saw our latest sweet move. It was too late. Boaters on > the third deck of a big power boat two rows away were all pointing at > us. My wife ran into the boat, too embarrassed to emerge again > before dark. She suffered what appeared to be two broken fingers. > She said she "took one for the boat." My wife never let go of the > line in her hand. She said it was a short line, and as she jumped, > the length was too short to reach the dock, snapping her back into the > water. She used to be a member of the girl's gymnastic team. > > That was enough excitement for one day. > > The next day, Monday, we were just going to skip it all, what with my > wife's busted fingers. But she proved game, and said she wanted to go > out again. This time time we thought we'd raise the genoa and do the > full sailing adventure. To make sure the genoa went up easily, I > thought I'd hoist it at the dock and check that it was AOK. Our slip > sits right in front of the restaurant. I knew eyes were on us. > I meant to ensure there would be no surprises. The jib was in a sail > bag at the bow, where my brother and I vowed it should forever remain > after a motor failure caught us with all sails below decks. I very > carefully attached everything while the sail remained inside the > bag. All I needed to do was haul it up the line. I did. > > As the sail surged skyward for the whole marina and restaurant to see, > something didn't look right. I watched the sail as I pulled on the > sheet, happy no > snags were making us look bad. The sail was about 2/3's hoisted when > I realized the problem. IT WAS UPSIDE DOWN!!! I was horrified. I > immediately tried to lower it, but IT GOT CAUGHT!!! There was no > helping me now! I tugged and pulled, but the #@^%^#@*^$*@!! just > stayed there, flying high for all to see, the broad base at the top, > and the tip of the sail on deck. I thought about walking away and > leaving my wife alone to explain it. I called her to help me out, and > I explained why it looked a bit strange. We started laughing > hysterically, trying not to look at the restaurant windows. Finally, > with a great tug and with all of my 220 lbs. on the line, the sail > gave way and came crashing down onto the deck. > > Speed was of the essence. We needed to move fast before someone > official asked for my credentials. The idea was to launch and get as > far away from the marina as possible. We shoved off, vowing to > improve over our last effort. My wife gave me grief each time we > watched other boats softly come to a rest after being out on the > water. She pointed out how all of the other sailors came in solo, > slow as you please, right into their moorings (into the wind), and > stepped off like they were stepping onto a curb in a parking lot. I > explained to her that their boats were smaller, weighed less, and that > they were more maneuverable at slow speeds. I reminded her we were a > 28 foot boat in a 25 foot downwind slip. The others did not suffer > from this problem. I told my wife I would see how slow we could go > under control as we left the marina. It was practice for our return > maneuver. > > We walked it out of the slip, pointed the bow towards the exit, jumped > on, and hit the gas. We took off a bit fast, so I cut the power on > the Nissan. Our sails were down. The speed dropped quickly as I > tried to mirror the slow speed of the smaller boats. I succeeded, > and we putted along the side channel towards the larger channel that > exits to the bay. I was pleased at how slow I was moving, steering > the boat from one side to another, as we slowly moved towards the main > channel. All was going smoothly. We thought again of the upside down > genoa and laughed hysterically, glad we had not tried to hoist it on > the bay in the presence of our new marina friends. > > A 90 degree right turn was required at the main channel. Just as we > slowly moved into the main channel and tried to make the turn, the > boat refused to respond. The wind and main channel current caught the > slow moving boat and pushed us to the left! Not to worry, we were > still moving slowly forward. All I needed to do was jump on the gas, > right? I did. > > The Cal 28 roared forward. I pulled on the tiller to make the 90 > degree right turn but the boat continued to charge straight forward, > gaining speed, charging directly towards all of the large power yachts > moored on the main channel. #@^%^#@*^$*@!! The main channel was only > about fifty feet wide, and I was already halfway across it, with no > response from the tiller at all! I slammed on the brakes with the > cockpit remote control by throwing the motor into reverse and gunning > it full throttle, hoping to stop and hoping to avoid ramming the big > boats. I just read in the owner's manual that one should avoid > switching gears in this fashion. People were now emerging on to their > power boat decks, concern on their faces, as we charged down on them > full speed. > > Finally, the reverse thrust kicked in and we halted forward progress > about five feet short of the first power boat, much to the relief of > the people on her deck. My wife was on the bow, smiling at them > silently, ready to damage their boats with her feet. We were now > drifting left, and gaining reverse speed, backing toward a 75 foot > super high-tech luxury boat moored on the main channel, too big to fit > into a slip. As we picked up speed in reverse, my thought was to > repeat the same maneuver, and to move forward under control and to > finally make that 90 degree right turn to freedom. > > Luck was not on my side. The tiller was ripped from my hand and > slammed around by the speed of the water running past the rudder in > reverse. The spinning tiller almost sent me overboard as it whipped > around. I think I demonstrated this trick several times. My memory > was affected by the stress of the situation. I remember a guy in a > Zodiac raft with an outboard coming out. I guessed he was there to > assist me, but all I could think of was, #@^%^#@*^$*@!! Get out the > way!" He calmly and silently stood by, while he kept a wary eye on > me. He was soon joined by a second Zodiac. I tried to make eye > contact and my excuses while we spiraled in a circle demontrating my > tiller trick, alternating between forward and reverse gears. I saw > them go by several times as I appeared to be caught in a whirlpool of > my own making. > > Miraculously, each time I neared a zillion dollar boat and approached > bankruptcy, we stopped and pulled away from disaster. I finally > regained control, but to my horror, I was traveling in reverse. Every > time I made the transition from forward to reverse, or vice versa, all > control was lost. I elected to stay in reverse. I backed out of the > main channel, traveling at least 100 yards, going by gawking onlookers > on the fishing pier and on other boats. > > Doing my best to pretend I planned it that way, I made like a > politician and waved, again making my excuses to the two Zodiacs as I > backed away triumphantly in reverse. In front of the channel to the > bay, with plenty of steerage, I made a very nice turn and blasted > away! We had a very successful sail. Sailing was the easy part. > > So much for a little rest and relaxation. 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The story reminds me of my first adventure with my J 24. I had sold my big boat and bought a J 24 during a post divorce period of fiscal austerity. The day came to launch it for the first time. For reasons I cannot recall, I decided to suspend it from the lifting rod without any bridle to stabilize it. Well, of course it was swinging in the air below the hoist when it began to tip bow down. That caused the sails to slide into the bow and we quickly had a J 24 that looked like a cormorant after a fish. A guy came running up to help this idiot before the thing turned into a disaster. We got the boat into the water before the lifting rod bent or broke and I was tidying up. The helper commented that I was wearing an Audacious (My race boat name) crew shirt and he asked if I had ever crewed on Audacious. I answered that I had owned it. He looked disapproving and disbelieving at the same time and walked away, no longer willing to help this liar who was obviously new to boating. I didn't say a word. I did make a nice bridle before hauling it out of the water that day and we had a lot of fun with the boat in the 10 years I owned it. I finally sold it to a guy in New Mexico. I guess they sail on a lake there. He later wrote me a note that he loved it and had won some races. Mike Kennedy Conquest cal 40 # 96 On Jun 1, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Rog Jones wrote: > Bruce – > > > > You are a great writer and a wonderful self-deprecating humorist. > > > > Thanks so much for this wonderful story! Made my day. > > > > \Rog > > > > Cal 29+ #1 > > Swiss Navy > > > > Cal 2-30 #77 > > St. Lori's Comet > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Boating sailing Sailing boat Sailing > Boating > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "Cal_Boats" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >

can't believe i waited 4 months to read this. Thanks for the self depracating entertainment, Bruce. How did the rest of the summer go? Reggie >From: "Bruce Stirling" <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Latest San Diego Sailing Adventure - Entertainment - >Long >Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:44:55 -0700 > >Most of you are too experienced to remember the kind of fun some of us are >still having, so with the idea of providing a bit of entertainment, I >submit >this latest log entry on the adventures of my Cal 28. It's a bit long, but >it does cover the Memorial Day weekend: > >My wife and I hadn't been to San Diego together since before my brother and >I tried to the shoot the Embarcadero Pier in our Cal 28 sailboat while gang >members harrassed us from above. Some of you might recall that last >adventure, although I note it was deleted from the online messages. It was >time to return and get that death defying rush again, and to demonstrate >our >sailing prowess to the Californians. So with renewed spirit, we headed >into >the desert night in a "new" 1981 Datsun 280ZX, hoping to kill two birds >with >one stone. A check out drive for the car, and yet another check out cruise >for the boat. We blasted down the highway, trusting in Japanese >technology. >We arrived at the marina at about 3:30 a.m. and promptly passed out. The >Datsun passed inspection. > >Saturday morning San Diego was gray and cloudy. Gale winds were forecast >for islands off the coast of LA. We hung out on the boat, too tired after >that drive to haul ourselves over the lifeline. We tidied up and talked to >other marina residents and ate stale chips and pretzels found onboard. One >guy was working on a Nissan outboard a few boats down. I was happy to know >he knew a great deal about motors. I was jealous with envy when he hit the >electric start button on his motor and it fired right up. I asked him how >much the electric starter cost. He said, "around $200.00." He then walked >over to our boat to show me a few things in response to my telling him >about >my bad kill switch. He started the motor with a single pull, said it >sounded good, and then pressed a button below the choke, thinking it was a >kill switch. It made a bad sound, and he said, "there's your electric >starter button." Joy! I immediately called my brother in Phoenix to tell >him we had an electric starter! Hurray! > >So we had that going for us. > >Sunday we spent time hooking up the anchors and generally checking things >out. After the near miss at the pier, I vowed never to leave the dock >again >without all sails and anchors ready to go. We decided to hoist all sails >at >the dock, just to see if we could. Sure enough, the main sail got stuck >again. A woman walked by and said we needed some kind of lubricant, which >she had on her boat. She invited me over her place to borrow some >lubricant. My wife just looked on and urged me to follow her. I didn't >want to. I delayed a bit, and then was not able to find where she went, >although I did try. Instead, I went to the store and bought some grease >spray in a can. It worked great. Later someone told me it would attract >dirt. A bit later, the woman's husband showed up and said his wife thought >we could "use some help." We already had the sail up, so he introduced us >to others, and a sailing party was organized. We were all to meet >somewhere >in the bay, charge around awhile, anchor, row to shore, and have a pot >luck. >Right . . . . (we have never anchored and have no tender). We were too >tired to even think about hauling in the large genoa jib, so we never >hoisted it. We sailed around a few hours under main sail alone without >incident, and waved at the others on the water. We were left in their >wakes >as we bobbed along. > >Returning to the dock, my wife manned the Cal's rail with docking line in >hand, ready to tie us up. As we neared the mooring and made the final turn >into the slip, my wife claimed we were about to hit the dock. I disagreed >(from 28 feet away) and looked around to make sure. We were only about two >feet away when I looked up and noticed my wife was gone. She could only >be >in the water. I jumped to the dock to make sure the 6000 lb. boat didn't >smash her. I looked down, and there she was in the water between the boat >and the dock, hanging on to the line with one hand. There was only about >18 >inches between the boat and concrete. She reached out with her other hand, >and I pulled her onto the dock. We secured the boat and looked around, >hoping no one saw our latest sweet move. It was too late. Boaters on the >third deck of a big power boat two rows away were all pointing at us. My >wife ran into the boat, too embarrassed to emerge again before dark. She >suffered what appeared to be two broken fingers. She said she "took one >for >the boat." My wife never let go of the line in her hand. She said it was >a >short line, and as she jumped, the length was too short to reach the dock, >snapping her back into the water. She used to be a member of the girl's >gymnastic team. > >That was enough excitement for one day. > >The next day, Monday, we were just going to skip it all, what with my >wife's >busted fingers. But she proved game, and said she wanted to go out again. >This time time we thought we'd raise the genoa and do the full sailing >adventure. To make sure the genoa went up easily, I thought I'd hoist it >at >the dock and check that it was AOK. Our slip sits right in front of the >restaurant. I knew eyes were on us. I meant to ensure there would be no >surprises. The jib was in a sail bag at the bow, where my brother and I >vowed it should forever remain after a motor failure caught us with all >sails below decks. I very carefully attached everything while the sail >remained inside the bag. All I needed to do was haul it up the line. I >did. > >As the sail surged skyward for the whole marina and restaurant to see, >something didn't look right. I watched the sail as I pulled on the sheet, >happy no >snags were making us look bad. The sail was about 2/3's hoisted when I >realized the problem. IT WAS UPSIDE DOWN!!! I was horrified. I >immediately tried to lower it, but IT GOT CAUGHT!!! There was no helping >me >now! I tugged and pulled, but the #@^%^#@*^$*@!! just stayed there, >flying high for all to see, the broad base at the top, and the tip of the >sail on deck. I thought about walking away and leaving my wife alone to >explain it. I called her to help me out, and I explained why it looked a >bit strange. We started laughing hysterically, trying not to look at the >restaurant windows. Finally, with a great tug and with all of my 220 lbs. >on the line, the sail gave way and came crashing down onto the deck. > >Speed was of the essence. We needed to move fast before someone official >asked for my credentials. The idea was to launch and get as far away from >the marina as possible. We shoved off, vowing to improve over our last >effort. My wife gave me grief each time we watched other boats softly come >to a rest after being out on the water. She pointed out how all of the >other sailors came in solo, slow as you please, right into their moorings >(into the wind), and stepped off like they were stepping onto a curb in a >parking lot. I explained to her that their boats were smaller, weighed >less, and that they were more maneuverable at slow speeds. I reminded her >we were a 28 foot boat in a 25 foot downwind slip. The others did not >suffer from this problem. I told my wife I would see how slow we could go >under control as we left the marina. It was practice for our return >maneuver. > >We walked it out of the slip, pointed the bow towards the exit, jumped on, >and hit the gas. We took off a bit fast, so I cut the power on the Nissan. >Our sails were down. The speed dropped quickly as I tried to mirror the >slow speed of the smaller boats. I succeeded, and we putted along the >side >channel towards the larger channel that exits to the bay. I was pleased >at >how slow I was moving, steering the boat from one side to another, as we >slowly moved towards the main channel. All was going smoothly. We thought >again of the upside down genoa and laughed hysterically, glad we had not >tried to hoist it on the bay in the presence of our new marina friends. > >A 90 degree right turn was required at the main channel. Just as we slowly >moved into the main channel and tried to make the turn, the boat refused to >respond. The wind and main channel current caught the slow moving boat and >pushed us to the left! Not to worry, we were still moving slowly forward. >All I needed to do was jump on the gas, right? I did. > >The Cal 28 roared forward. I pulled on the tiller to make the 90 degree >right turn but the boat continued to charge straight forward, gaining >speed, >charging directly towards all of the large power yachts moored on the main >channel. #@^%^#@*^$*@!! The main channel was only about fifty feet wide, >and I was already halfway across it, with no response from the tiller at >all! I slammed on the brakes with the cockpit remote control by throwing >the motor into reverse and gunning it full throttle, hoping to stop and >hoping to avoid ramming the big boats. I just read in the owner's manual >that one should avoid switching gears in this fashion. People were now >emerging on to their power boat decks, concern on their faces, as we >charged >down on them full speed. > >Finally, the reverse thrust kicked in and we halted forward progress about >five feet short of the first power boat, much to the relief of the people >on >her deck. My wife was on the bow, smiling at them silently, ready to damage >their boats with her feet. We were now drifting left, and gaining reverse >speed, backing toward a 75 foot super high-tech luxury boat moored on the >main channel, too big to fit into a slip. As we picked up speed in >reverse, >my thought was to repeat the same maneuver, and to move forward under >control and to finally make that 90 degree right turn to freedom. > >Luck was not on my side. The tiller was ripped from my hand and slammed >around by the speed of the water running past the rudder in reverse. The >spinning tiller almost sent me overboard as it whipped around. I think I >demonstrated this trick several times. My memory was affected by the >stress >of the situation. I remember a guy in a Zodiac raft with an outboard >coming >out. I guessed he was there to assist me, but all I could think of was, >#@^%^#@*^$*@!! Get out the way!" He calmly and silently stood by, while >he >kept a wary eye on me. He was soon joined by a second Zodiac. I tried >to >make eye contact and my excuses while we spiraled in a circle demontrating >my tiller trick, alternating between forward and reverse gears. I saw them >go by several times as I appeared to be caught in a whirlpool of my own >making. > >Miraculously, each time I neared a zillion dollar boat and approached >bankruptcy, we stopped and pulled away from disaster. I finally regained >control, but to my horror, I was traveling in reverse. Every time I made >the transition from forward to reverse, or vice versa, all control was >lost. >I elected to stay in reverse. I backed out of the main channel, traveling >at least 100 yards, going by gawking onlookers on the fishing pier and on >other boats. > >Doing my best to pretend I planned it that way, I made like a politician >and >waved, again making my excuses to the two Zodiacs as I backed away >triumphantly in reverse. In front of the channel to the bay, with plenty >of >steerage, I made a very nice turn and blasted away! We had a very >successful sail. Sailing was the easy part. > >So much for a little rest and relaxation. We got back at midnight Monday. > >

Hey, Reggie - It's nice to learn that you're keeping current with all the hot topics on the list. What? Is it already getting too cold to sail up there? Anyway, Bruce Stirling's sailing adventure stories have brightened up the list a lot and we are really lucky to have him aboard. It isn't often that we are reminded that this is about having fun and not about stressing out. All the best. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet

many folks have pulled their boats to get on with their fall schedules. Ours? Still in the water. Lotsa good sailing left in Sept, Oct and maybe Nov. Haven't sailed in a snow storm for quite a few years. Maybe this year! Reggie >From: "Rog Jones" <ro… [at] nvsailing.org> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Catching up on emails (Reggie)(was Latest San Diego >Sailing Adventure...) >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:05:32 -0700 > >Hey, Reggie - > > > >It's nice to learn that you're keeping current with all the hot topics on >the list. What? Is it already getting too cold to sail up there? > > > >Anyway, Bruce Stirling's sailing adventure stories have brightened up the >list a lot and we are really lucky to have him aboard. It isn't often that >we are reminded that this is about having fun and not about stressing out. > > > >All the best. > > > >\Rog > > > >Cal 29+ #1 > >Swiss Navy > > > >Cal 2-30 #77 > >St. Lori's Comet > > > > > > > > > > >

Reggie, Thanks for the kind words about my sailing adventures. Nothing nearly as entertaining to report thereafter. But you are right about the sailing season. Now that Debbie and I can come and go from the marina without attracting onlookers, we plan an October cruise hosting my mother from Tucson. We'll probably work in a name changing ceremony for her enjoyment. Anyone have any good ideas of what a proper name change ceremony should include? All ideas appreciated. Bruce Stirling Gangfurd Cal 28 - Hull 82 (1965) http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28

there is a proper denaming ceremony and a proper naming ceremony. Someone will know it. I'm told boats name themselves. Ours did. Reggie >From: "rua84" <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Catching up on emails (Reggie)(was Latest San >Diego Sailing Adventure...) >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:33:06 -0000 > >Reggie, > >Thanks for the kind words about my sailing adventures. Nothing nearly >as entertaining to report thereafter. But you are right about the >sailing season. Now that Debbie and I can come and go from the marina >without attracting onlookers, we plan an October cruise hosting my >mother from Tucson. We'll probably work in a name changing ceremony >for her enjoyment. Anyone have any good ideas of what a proper name >change ceremony should include? All ideas appreciated. > >Bruce Stirling >Gangfurd >Cal 28 - Hull 82 (1965) >http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28 > > >

Proper renaming and appeasing the Poseidon etc. Try the following url: http://www.48north.com/mr_offline/denaming.htm Apparently it is their most requested old article. Terry Spencer C2-29 From: "r good" <my… [at] hotmail.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:33:17 -0600 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Catching up on emails (Reggie)(was Latest San Diego Sailing Adventure...) there is a proper denaming ceremony and a proper naming ceremony. Someone will know it. I'm told boats name themselves. Ours did. Reggie >From: "rua84" <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com <mailto:bruce%40stirlinglaw.com> > >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Catching up on emails (Reggie)(was Latest San >Diego Sailing Adventure...) >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:33:06 -0000 > >Reggie, > >Thanks for the kind words about my sailing adventures. Nothing nearly >as entertaining to report thereafter. But you are right about the >sailing season. Now that Debbie and I can come and go from the marina >without attracting onlookers, we plan an October cruise hosting my >mother from Tucson. We'll probably work in a name changing ceremony >for her enjoyment. Anyone have any good ideas of what a proper name >change ceremony should include? All ideas appreciated. > >Bruce Stirling >Gangfurd >Cal 28 - Hull 82 (1965) >http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28 > > >

Thanks to all. Looks like all agree. I'll use it. I failed to appreciate the need to "dename" first. Bruce --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Terrence Spencer <tspencer@...> wrote: > > Proper renaming and appeasing the Poseidon etc. Try the following url: > > http://www.48north.com/mr_offline/denaming.htm > > Apparently it is their most requested old article. > > Terry Spencer > C2-29 > > > From: "r good" <my1972ih@...> > Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:33:17 -0600 > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Catching up on emails (Reggie)(was Latest San > Diego Sailing Adventure...) > > there is a proper denaming ceremony and a proper naming ceremony. Someone > will know it. > > I'm told boats name themselves. Ours did. > > Reggie > > >From: "rua84" <bruce@... <mailto:bruce%40stirlinglaw.com> > > >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Catching up on emails (Reggie)(was Latest San > >Diego Sailing Adventure...) > >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:33:06 -0000 > > > >Reggie, > > > >Thanks for the kind words about my sailing adventures. Nothing nearly > >as entertaining to report thereafter. But you are right about the > >sailing season. Now that Debbie and I can come and go from the marina > >without attracting onlookers, we plan an October cruise hosting my > >mother from Tucson. We'll probably work in a name changing ceremony > >for her enjoyment. Anyone have any good ideas of what a proper name > >change ceremony should include? All ideas appreciated. > > > >Bruce Stirling > >Gangfurd > >Cal 28 - Hull 82 (1965) > >http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28 > > > > > > >