8 messages2006-10-17 22:58 through 2006-10-31 02:13 UTC
EZJAX Lazy Jacks, Anyone have them? Comments
camaflge2006-10-17 22:58
I want to install some kind of lazy jacks on my Cal 34. I'm reluctant
to sail as much as I want, because its just to much hassle to drop
and wrestle my mainsail when I singlehand. EZJAX claim theirs is the
best system. One of the features that interests me is that they can be
pulled out of the way when not in use, and they say can be deployed
from the cockpit. My local rigger says her's doesn't have any blocks
or hardware to chafe against the mast or sails. She splices loops in
them and runs the lines thru the loops. Hers can also be pulled out of
the way to the mast when not in use but she can't figure out how to
install them so they can be deployed from the cockpit. Any suggestions??
Re: [Cal_Boats] EZJAX Lazy Jacks, Anyone have them? Comments
Michael Kennedy2006-10-18 12:26 UTC
We had them on my 34 and the setup had shock cords so they could be
pulled forward to the mast when not in use. We hooked them over
cleats or winches on the mast. There is probably a way you could
release them from the cockpit but I don't know how you would retract
them as well. There's probably a way.
Mike Kennedy
Conquest Cal 40 # 96
On Oct 17, 2006, at 3:58 PM, camaflge wrote:
> I want to install some kind of lazy jacks on my Cal 34. I'm reluctant
> to sail as much as I want, because its just to much hassle to drop
> and wrestle my mainsail when I singlehand. EZJAX claim theirs is the
> best system. One of the features that interests me is that they can be
> pulled out of the way when not in use, and they say can be deployed
> from the cockpit. My local rigger says her's doesn't have any blocks
> or hardware to chafe against the mast or sails. She splices loops in
> them and runs the lines thru the loops. Hers can also be pulled out of
> the way to the mast when not in use but she can't figure out how to
> install them so they can be deployed from the cockpit. Any
> suggestions??
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] EZJAX Lazy Jacks, Anyone have them? Comments
Chris Campbell2006-10-18 13:09 UTC
camaflge wrote:
>
> My local rigger says her's doesn't have any blocks
> or hardware to chafe against the mast or sails. She splices loops in
> them and runs the lines thru the loops. Hers can also be pulled out of
> the way to the mast when not in use but she can't figure out how to
> install them so they can be deployed from the cockpit. Any suggestions? ?
>
My suggestion is to ask her for local referrals, and call the customers
to see how well that system works. If she has no other buyers, then
you're the guinea pig. If she does, they should be willing to discuss
how well it works. All sailors love to talk about their boats.
Another solution would be to find a cheap Cal 20 and become a two-boat
family. The 20 is probably easier to single-hand than a dinghy.
Chris Campbell
RE: [Cal_Boats] EZJAX Lazy Jacks, Anyone have them? Comments
jo… [at] peco-energy.com2006-10-18 13:29 UTC
It's a pricey fix, but it's the single best mod done on our 34' Sabre: The Dutchman Sail Flaking System; per Her Majesty, the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Gone are those thrilling days of yesteryear, rasslin' the piles o'sail off the cabin top in cross-wise seas and traffic amid loud communication breakdowns.
We looked at a lot of interesting applications of different lazy jack configurations, but none met all our criteria. This system, however, remains a joy to behold as we, from the cockpit, drop the main onto the boom. Of course, it works best when dead into the wind, but that's true about any (or no) system.
Jon Myers, occasional Cal 3-29 Bay Breeze crew,
S34 MkI #094
Melusine
Swan Creek, MD
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Subject: [Cal_Boats] EZJAX Lazy Jacks, Anyone have them? Comments
I want to install some kind of lazy jacks on my Cal 34. I'm reluctant
to sail as much as I want, because its just to much hassle to drop
and wrestle my mainsail when I singlehand. EZJAX claim theirs is the
best system. One of the features that interests me is that they can be
pulled out of the way when not in use, and they say can be deployed
from the cockpit. My local rigger says her's doesn't have any blocks
or hardware to chafe against the mast or sails. She splices loops in
them and runs the lines thru the loops. Hers can also be pulled out of
the way to the mast when not in use but she can't figure out how to
install them so they can be deployed from the cockpit. Any suggestions??
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Re: EZJAX Lazy Jacks, Anyone have them? Comments
michaelkennedy052006-10-18 16:43
We put lazy jacks on our Cal 34 a few years back. No need for riggers
and kits-it's easy to make your own with about $40 in parts from West
Marine. We added padeyes to either side of the mast, about 1/2 way
between the spreaders and the masthead. Plastic-covered wire (like
lifeline material but smaller) was spliced onto them-Harken bulet
blocks spliced onto the other end at about the halfway point between
the spreaders and the gooseneck. Then 2 small padeyes go onto either
side of the bom, splitting it roughly into thirds. Harken ullet
blocks on the padeyes closest to the gooseneck. On either side, small
diamater line is run from the aft padeye, up through the block on the
e3nd of the wire hanging from the mast, back down tothe block on the
boom, then forward to a small cleat on the side of the boom near the
gooseneck. When sailing, ease the line, loop the lines under the
reefing hooks on either side of the gooseneck and it's all out of the
way. When you go to take the main down, free the lines, pull them
taught through the cleats, and presto-lazy jacks. Once you have the
sail ties on, pull the lazy kacks back forward again so your sail
cover doesn't need any modification. You can do the nicro-pressing of
the wire in the store at West Marine yourself, the whole project takes
about half a Saturday, and you've done the same thing a rigger would
do but instead of paying the rigger $75/hr, all you have to do is buy
a hamburger and a beer for the person who grinds you up the mast.
Mike Kennedy Jr.
Conquest Cal 40 #96
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "camaflge" <stillstandinginc@...>
wrote:
>
> I want to install some kind of lazy jacks on my Cal 34. I'm reluctant
> to sail as much as I want, because its just to much hassle to drop
> and wrestle my mainsail when I singlehand. EZJAX claim theirs is the
> best system. One of the features that interests me is that they can
be
> pulled out of the way when not in use, and they say can be deployed
> from the cockpit. My local rigger says her's doesn't have any blocks
> or hardware to chafe against the mast or sails. She splices loops in
> them and runs the lines thru the loops. Hers can also be pulled out
of
> the way to the mast when not in use but she can't figure out how to
> install them so they can be deployed from the cockpit. Any
suggestions??
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: EZJAX Lazy Jacks, Anyone have them? Comments
Chris Campbell2006-10-18 19:53 UTC
michaelkennedy05 wrote:
>
> and you've done the same thing a rigger would
> do but instead of paying the rigger $75/hr, all you have to do is buy
> a hamburger and a beer for the person who grinds you up the mast.
>
Or, and maybe better, for the person that you grind up the mast. It
depends on the age of your halyards.
Chris Campbell
Re: EZJAX Lazy Jacks, Anyone have them? Comments
ddaye25632006-10-19 05:30
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "camaflge" <stillstandinginc@...> wrote:
>
> I want to install some kind of lazy jacks on my Cal 34.
We used our own portable lazyjacks on all the boats we chartered on W.
Lake Erie, along with our portable hatch screens, sun tarps and other
portable creature comforts. I just finished installing lazyjacks on
our new old Cal 25.
What we did was purchase 75' or so of very thin dacron line, tied one
end to a wood block & heave over a spreader. We fix one end to the
spinnaker pole slider on the mast, in a 2' loop ending in a rolling
hitch (sliding knot); the other comes down aft of the spreader a
couple of feet to a bowline. Through that is run a 2 part line that
comes up from the boom vang mount and turns down to a reef line
eyestrap about 2/3 of the way aft on the boom. Repeat for the other
side of the boom.
If you don't have an object on the boom to tie to there, and you don't
want to squander $4 on yet another eyestrap, run a line from some
object forward with a small loop where you want the aft lazyjack to
tie to, extending aft to something else or an outhaul cleat or whatever.
We slide the spinnaker pole eye on the mast all the way down to
tighten the jacks during deployment and dousing of the main. At the
dock we slide it all the way up to slacken them and let the sail cover
ride normally. When sailing we slack the rolling hitches so we can put
the spinnaker pole mount wherever we need it for the conditions.
> install them so they can be deployed from the cockpit.
WIth our system, run them to the bottom of the mast & lead 'em aft
through some dirt cheap dinghy bullet blocks or just eyestraps to some
micromini clam cleats or whatever on each side of the cabin top.
Save the dollars for sails, engines or beer.
David
Re: [Cal_Boats] EZJAX Lazy Jacks, Anyone have them? Comments
kf… [at] aol.com2006-10-31 02:13 UTC
I installed EZJAX on my 2-30 when I owned her. Yes, I could have purchased the line, blocks, etc, but I just bought the EZJAX, and never regretted it. It took one hour to install, and much of that time was cutting plastic spacers so no stainless touched the mast or boom. They retracted in a snap, and with the shock cord, made a close installation perfect. Last benefit was retracting at the dock, so I could use my sailcover with no modifications. EZJAX are great.
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Subject: [Cal_Boats] EZJAX Lazy Jacks, Anyone have them? Comments
I want to install some kind of lazy jacks on my Cal 34. I'm reluctant
to sail as much as I want, because its just to much hassle to drop
and wrestle my mainsail when I singlehand. EZJAX claim theirs is the
best system. One of the features that interests me is that they can be
pulled out of the way when not in use, and they say can be deployed
from the cockpit. My local rigger says her's doesn't have any blocks
or hardware to chafe against the mast or sails. She splices loops in
them and runs the lines thru the loops. Hers can also be pulled out of
the way to the mast when not in use but she can't figure out how to
install them so they can be deployed from the cockpit. Any suggestions??
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