4 messages2006-11-10 15:36 UTCthrough 2006-11-13 15:14 UTC
Have Fun Racing (was CAL T/2 comparison) [John]
Alfred Poor2006-11-10 15:36 UTC
John Raxter opined:
"PHRF racing is about having fun. Some racers forget this aspect of the
events. Take whatever rating you can get, and when you get rolled on the
downwind leg by the J24, have your crew offer them a toast, and show them
how much more fun you are having. Have fun! You will enjoy the racing more,
your crew will be more likely to return, and as your experience and crew
improve you will sail closer to your rating."
I couldn't agree more. One year while sailing in the Good Old Boat Regatta
(before we enjoyed your company aboard Pentaquod, John), my wife Bebe and I
were sailing double-handed. On the final downwind leg, we came up on a
gaggle of handicap class boats. (We were in the Cal 29 class, and our
position in the fleet was well established at that point.) One of the boats
was a beautiful big old wooden yawl, with two men standing in the cockpit,
giving orders to a bunch of young women at a machine gun pace. One of them
was sitting on the leeward rail, and in a voice close to tears, looked back
to the cockpit and exclaimed "I don't understand what you're saying!"
Meanwhile, I was perched on the coaming of the cockpit, leaning back against
the lifelines, jib sheet in one hand and the tiller extension in the other.
And Bebe was lying down on the cockpit cushions, head propped up by the
stern, reading Newsweek.
At the post-race party, a woman sought us out; she and her husband owned the
beautiful yawl that we had passed. She remarked on our relaxed attitude
about racing. "Are you allowed to do that?" she asked?
I think the key to having fun while racing is to have someone model the
behavior as an example for the others. If the A-types do all the winning,
then it can poison the experience for everyone. But if someone who is
genuinely relaxed and polite and generous is successful in the competition,
it can help set the tone for the rest of the fleet.
Alfred Poor
1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod"
Re: Have Fun Racing (was CAL T/2 comparison) [John]
mtkennedy12006-11-10 16:16
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Alfred Poor" <apoor@...> wrote:
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> John Raxter opined:
>
>
>
> "PHRF racing is about having fun. Some racers forget this aspect of the
>
> events. Take whatever rating you can get, and when you get rolled on the
>
> downwind leg by the J24, have your crew offer them a toast, and show
them
>
> how much more fun you are having. Have fun! You will enjoy the
racing more,
>
> your crew will be more likely to return, and as your experience and crew
>
> improve you will sail closer to your rating."
>
>
I'll second Alfred's comment. I did a lot of local racing plus some
fairly high level racing for the time. One year, we were doing the
Whitney Series race around Santa Barbara Island; it might have even
been the first leg of the Tri-Island race, which goes around Santa
Barbara and San Clemente Island. We had a young guy with us who worked
for one of the sail makers. We got up close to the island about
midnight and go too close. We were in kelp and we could see running
lights outside passing us. He completely freaked out. That was it for
him. The race was over.
Anyway, we got out of it and the only other memory of that race I have
is getting seasick trying to change a bow running light bulb in very
light air with leftover chop from the day's sea breeze. I had to go
lay down for a half hour while my vestibular apparatus settled down.
A few hours later, we were back in the race and the whole thing was as
much fun as any overnight race is. The pleasure of being out there at
night and seeing the dawn come up is at lest half of it. Winning is a
bonus, not the reason for doing it.
When I was still racing my 29 footer, our big competitor was a funny
guy who used to get really excited and had trouble keeping crew. He is
Hungarian, having escaped the revolt in 1956 and made his way to
California. Maybe his English would fail him at times. Anyway, one day
he kicked one of his crew to get his attention. The guy complained and
Imre apologized telling the crewman that he'd forgotten his name for a
moment.
Keeping calm is more fun plus it wins races.
I saw Imre a few months ago. He and his wife now have a summer place
on a lake in Hungary where they do some sailing. The kicking episode
was over 30 years ago and I didn't remind him of it. It was pretty
funny at the time, though.
I don't think I'd enjoy the present era of professional crew and rich
owners spending everybody else out of competition. Mike Jr does lots
of racing in those events and it's more fun on other people's boats in
those circumstances. I'm now a cruiser although I'd like to do a few
casual races.
Mike Kennedy
Conquest Cal 40 # 96
RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Have Fun Racing (was CAL T/2 comparison) [John]
Husar Charlie2006-11-10 17:04 UTC
Hi, Mike.
"The pleasure of being out there at night..."
Hear! Here!
Cheers
Charlie
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To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Have Fun Racing (was CAL T/2 comparison) [John]
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Alfred Poor" <apoor@...> wrote:
>
> John Raxter opined:
>
>
>
> "PHRF racing is about having fun. Some racers forget this aspect of
> the
>
> events. Take whatever rating you can get, and when you get rolled on
> the
>
> downwind leg by the J24, have your crew offer them a toast, and show
them
>
> how much more fun you are having. Have fun! You will enjoy the
racing more,
>
> your crew will be more likely to return, and as your experience and
> crew
>
> improve you will sail closer to your rating."
>
>
I'll second Alfred's comment. I did a lot of local racing plus some
fairly high level racing for the time. One year, we were doing the
Whitney Series race around Santa Barbara Island; it might have even been
the first leg of the Tri-Island race, which goes around Santa Barbara
and San Clemente Island. We had a young guy with us who worked for one
of the sail makers. We got up close to the island about midnight and go
too close. We were in kelp and we could see running lights outside
passing us. He completely freaked out. That was it for him. The race was
over.
Anyway, we got out of it and the only other memory of that race I have
is getting seasick trying to change a bow running light bulb in very
light air with leftover chop from the day's sea breeze. I had to go lay
down for a half hour while my vestibular apparatus settled down.
A few hours later, we were back in the race and the whole thing was as
much fun as any overnight race is. The pleasure of being out there at
night and seeing the dawn come up is at lest half of it. Winning is a
bonus, not the reason for doing it.
When I was still racing my 29 footer, our big competitor was a funny guy
who used to get really excited and had trouble keeping crew. He is
Hungarian, having escaped the revolt in 1956 and made his way to
California. Maybe his English would fail him at times. Anyway, one day
he kicked one of his crew to get his attention. The guy complained and
Imre apologized telling the crewman that he'd forgotten his name for a
moment.
Keeping calm is more fun plus it wins races.
I saw Imre a few months ago. He and his wife now have a summer place on
a lake in Hungary where they do some sailing. The kicking episode was
over 30 years ago and I didn't remind him of it. It was pretty funny at
the time, though.
I don't think I'd enjoy the present era of professional crew and rich
owners spending everybody else out of competition. Mike Jr does lots of
racing in those events and it's more fun on other people's boats in
those circumstances. I'm now a cruiser although I'd like to do a few
casual races.
Mike Kennedy
Conquest Cal 40 # 96
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Have Fun Racing (was CAL T/2 comparison) [John]
Chris Campbell2006-11-13 15:14 UTC
mtkennedy1 wrote:
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>
>
> I don't think I'd enjoy the present era of professional crew and rich
> owners spending everybody else out of competition. Mike Jr does lots
> of racing in those events and it's more fun on other people's boats in
> those circumstances. I'm now a cruiser although I'd like to do a few
> casual races.
>
My academic training was in history and, although I don't practice it
professionally, I do like to see things in the perspective of time. We
had a time of unrestrained economic activity in the late 19th century
that later become known as the "Gilded Age" for its economic excesses.
The general structure of society endured into the early 20th century.
That gave us the huge sailing yachts with paid captains and crews that
we see in old photos, and it gave sailing an aristocratic image, with
white ducks and blue blazers and yachting caps and a general air of
exclusivity.
Then came the Depression and its end with WW II. We emerged as a much
more democratic nation, economically as well as politically. Everybody
could aspire to a boat--maybe just a little outboard runabout or a
plywood sloop, but it was no longer an aristocratic activity. When I
was a kid, there were two big racing fleets in town--a Lightning fleet
and a 110 fleet.. Fiberglass further democratized sailing, making good
boats available to the middle classes.
We're entering Gilded Age II, it seems like. The economic changes are
not favorable to the middle class, which looks like it's evaporating.
The yachting magazines all focus on boats over 40 feet. The concept of
cruising in a 25-footer is viewed as faintly humorous. I don't think
these are favorable trends for anybody (except the builder of >40'
boats). I'd rather live in an environment in which a bunch of folks I
know have boats than one in which we work as paid crew for a Vanderbilt
or, in modern parlance, a Gates or a Disney.
Chris Campbell