Re: [Cal_Boats] Purchase of Cal 33-2 and question for owners

Travis, Congrats on your new purchase. The 33 is a great boat, we have three of them at our club on Lake St Clair, MI. Later, Nick From: "Travis" <tr… [at] sbcglobal.net> Hi all, I had the survey and sea trial last week on the Cal 33-2 I'd been looking at to buy. Things went well and I am now the proud owner of HIN 64 vintage 1986. Current name on boat is: "Wind Dancer." The survey detected no major issues. The hull was very clean, and we did not observe any significant blistering. Per Rog's suggestion, the surveyor looked closely at the keel. Apparently the laminate was thick enough on this one, because we could not budge the keel laterally. I still don't know how this boat will sail, because there was no wind on Tuesday when we did the trial and survey. Engine runs fine, though. Decent sail inventory with a 155 and main vintage 2003; a 110 or so vintage 1997 and a spinnaker, good condition. On the sea trial, some water spilled out from the shallow pan under the engine on the cabin sole. Maybe from loose stuffing box. I did not see any way for water in this shallow pan to get to the bilge. Do others have this problem and, if so, how have you solved it? Is there a way to get a limber hole in the pan to drain in the bilge? Where would it go? Plan was to pack up the boat Wednesday and drop the mast. It rained steadily all day Wednesday. I spent the day in the boat. Did not see any leaks around the dorades, which was identified as a potential problem. Did find a lot of water coming in from the portlight in the quarterberth. Taped up for transport now, but will have to be addressed. Thanks for everyone's suggestions on what to look at on this boat. Travis

Travis: If you had water in the pan under the engine it is coming from the engine and not the packing gland. There is dam of sorts between the packing gland and the drip pan under the engine. There are two limber holes in this dam to allow leakage from the packing to enter the bilge. The reason you do not have a way to drain the drip pan under the engine is this pan is designed to capture any oil the engine may leak and keep it out of the bilge. It is much easie r to clean this drip of oil than try to clean oil from the bilge. This also prevents the bilge pump from pumping oily water overboard. I keep some of the oil absorbant pads in this drip pan as my engine has a small oil leak. This makes cleanup much easier. You may need to check the raw water pump or hoses for the raw water leak you have observed. Post pictures soon so we can see the addition to the family. Fair Winds Ron Eddleman S/V Stellarof Course Kemah, Texas From: Travis <tr… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:15:38 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Purchase of Cal 33-2 and question for owners Hi all, I had the survey and sea trial last week on the Cal 33-2 I'd been looking at to buy. Things went well and I am now the proud owner of HIN 64 vintage 1986. Current name on boat is: "Wind Dancer." The survey detected no major issues. The hull was very clean, and we did not observe any significant blistering. Per Rog's suggestion, the surveyor looked closely at the keel. Apparently the laminate was thick enough on this one, because we could not budge the keel laterally. I still don't know how this boat will sail, because there was no wind on Tuesday when we did the trial and survey. Engine runs fine, though. Decent sail inventory with a 155 and main vintage 2003; a 110 or so vintage 1997 and a spinnaker, good condition. On the sea trial, some water spilled out from the shallow pan under the engine on the cabin sole. Maybe from loose stuffing box. I did not see any way for water in this shallow pan to get to the bilge. Do others have this problem and, if so, how have you solved it? Is there a way to get a limber hole in the pan to drain in the bilge? Where would it go? Plan was to pack up the boat Wednesday and drop the mast. It rained steadily all day Wednesday. I spent the day in the boat. Did not see any leaks around the dorades, which was identified as a potential problem. Did find a lot of water coming in from the portlight in the quarterberth. Taped up for transport now, but will have to be addressed. Thanks for everyone's suggestions on what to look at on this boat. Travis

Ron, Thanks for this tip about the water leak. I'll check out when the boat gets here. Only can hope it is not something major. Travis ----- Original Message ----- From: Ronald Eddleman To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Purchase of Cal 33-2 and question for owners Travis: If you had water in the pan under the engine it is coming from the engine and not the packing gland. There is dam of sorts between the packing gland and the drip pan under the engine. There are two limber holes in this dam to allow leakage from the packing to enter the bilge. The reason you do not have a way to drain the drip pan under the engine is this pan is designed to capture any oil the engine may leak and keep it out of the bilge. It is much easie r to clean this drip of oil than try to clean oil from the bilge. This also prevents the bilge pump from pumping oily water overboard. I keep some of the oil absorbant pads in this drip pan as my engine has a small oil leak. This makes cleanup much easier. You may need to check the raw water pump or hoses for the raw water leak you have observed. Post pictures soon so we can see the addition to the family. Fair Winds Ron Eddleman S/V Stellarof Course Kemah, Texas ----- Original Message ---- From: Travis <tr… [at] sbcglobal.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:15:38 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Purchase of Cal 33-2 and question for owners Hi all, I had the survey and sea trial last week on the Cal 33-2 I'd been looking at to buy. Things went well and I am now the proud owner of HIN 64 vintage 1986. Current name on boat is: "Wind Dancer." The survey detected no major issues. The hull was very clean, and we did not observe any significant blistering. Per Rog's suggestion, the surveyor looked closely at the keel. Apparently the laminate was thick enough on this one, because we could not budge the keel laterally. I still don't know how this boat will sail, because there was no wind on Tuesday when we did the trial and survey. Engine runs fine, though. Decent sail inventory with a 155 and main vintage 2003; a 110 or so vintage 1997 and a spinnaker, good condition. On the sea trial, some water spilled out from the shallow pan under the engine on the cabin sole. Maybe from loose stuffing box. I did not see any way for water in this shallow pan to get to the bilge. Do others have this problem and, if so, how have you solved it? Is there a way to get a limber hole in the pan to drain in the bilge? Where would it go? Plan was to pack up the boat Wednesday and drop the mast. It rained steadily all day Wednesday. I spent the day in the boat. Did not see any leaks around the dorades, which was identified as a potential problem. Did find a lot of water coming in from the portlight in the quarterberth. Taped up for transport now, but will have to be addressed. Thanks for everyone's suggestions on what to look at on this boat. Travis