Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Lexan (Mike)

Mike, didn't you find storing the single BIG hatch board a problem? Daniel Casey "Air Time" Cal 9.2R #75 Santa Barbara, Ca.

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, airtimeskipper@... wrote: > > Mike, didn't you find storing the single BIG hatch board a problem? I used to stow it under the cushion on the quarterberth. It wasn't a problem. The fiberglass and wood cover in the 40 is more bulky and trouble to stow. The lexan hatch was flat and easy to stow. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > Daniel Casey > "Air Time" > Cal 9.2R #75 > Santa Barbara, Ca. >

I've had single lexan hatchboards on my last 2 boats. There's pros and cons. They let in a lot of light when you have them in, and they're simple to make. But they're heavy, harder to store, and less versatile (can't put in just 1 or 2). On Cals with bridgedecks, I think they're fine. IOW, you don't need to keep the boards in as often, since the bottom of the companionway hatch is well up away from the cockpit sole, less chance of massive water intrusion. In really bad seas you'd want to keep them in, and in those situations you'd have all your sections of a divided hatchboard in anyway. One issue I have now is that we just put in a radar/chartplotter on a swing arm, and while it works great, you can't use it in the cockpit if the hatchboard is in. I've thought of going to a completely transparent lexan hatchboard, or one with a "window" of clear lexan. Would it be crazy to put in a sliding door so one could reach in to adjust the radar without taking out the hatchboard? :-) Maybe now I'm getting silly. bw Cal 39-2 "Sea Star" Richmond, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: ai… [at] aol.com To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Lexan (Mike) Mike, didn't you find storing the single BIG hatch board a problem? Daniel Casey "Air Time" Cal 9.2R #75 Santa Barbara, Ca.

We cut the Cal 40 cover in two, so in a seaway you can have some options. We normally have only the bottom section in, In moderate seas and the full two pieces in in heavier stuff. In the baddest stuff, we have an aluminum cover for the vent section. All pieces oare on a lanyard, and store in a pouch on the companionway ladder. <http://home.att.net/~v.lessley/images/HB_1.jpg> <http://home.att.net/~v.lessley/images/HB_2.jpg> <http://home.att.net/~v.lessley/images/HB_1.jpg> <http://home.att.net/~v.lessley/images/HB_1.jpg> <http://home.att.net/~v.lessley/images/HB_1.jpg> <http://home.att.net/~v.lessley/images/HB_1.jpg> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:11 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Lexan (Mike) --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , airtimeskipper@... wrote: > > Mike, didn't you find storing the single BIG hatch board a problem? I used to stow it under the cushion on the quarterberth. It wasn't a problem. The fiberglass and wood cover in the 40 is more bulky and trouble to stow. The lexan hatch was flat and easy to stow. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > Daniel Casey > "Air Time" > Cal 9.2R #75 > Santa Barbara, Ca. >

> Bob Walden wrote: > [snip] > > One issue I have now is that we just put in a radar/chartplotter on a swing arm, > and while it works great, you can't use it in the cockpit if the hatchboard is > in. I've thought of going to a completely transparent lexan hatchboard, or one > with a "window" of clear lexan. Would it be crazy to put in a sliding door so > one could reach in to adjust the radar without taking out the hatchboard? :-) > Maybe now I'm getting silly. I think it's a good idea. On my Cal 2-27 I had a similar arrangement for my chartplotter. In my case, the chartplotter was also on a swing arm, but when swung aft for reading from the cockpit, it didn't swing into the companion, instead it swung up flush against the aft bulkhead of the cabin, and just there I cut a hole. I put an ordinary round access plate ring in it, and found a flat and transparent access plate cover. Gluing a couple of small bits on the outside edge of the cover made it easy to remove from the cockpit side. So when the weather was fine, I just left the cover out. When it was snotty or raining, I just removed it whenever I needed to punch a button. Of course, that was a Garmin 182C, so a 4? 4.5? inch hole was perfect. For a radar the bulkhead wouldn't be so good, but the idea of a hatch, sliding, hinged, what ever works very well! td DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

can you make your lexan hatch door in 3 stacking pieces? Since the hatchboard is an upside down trapeze, then you can live the middle third hatch out and be able to see the plotter From: "Downing, Thomas" <Th… [at] ipc.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:14:19 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Lexan (Mike) > Bob Walden wrote: > [snip] > > One issue I have now is that we just put in a radar/chartplotter on a swing arm, > and while it works great, you can't use it in the cockpit if the hatchboard is > in. I've thought of going to a completely transparent lexan hatchboard, or one > with a "window" of clear lexan. Would it be crazy to put in a sliding door so > one could reach in to adjust the radar without taking out the hatchboard? :-) > Maybe now I'm getting silly. I think it's a good idea. On my Cal 2-27 I had a similar arrangement for my chartplotter. In my case, the chartplotter was also on a swing arm, but when swung aft for reading from the cockpit, it didn't swing into the companion, instead it swung up flush against the aft bulkhead of the cabin, and just there I cut a hole. I put an ordinary round access plate ring in it, and found a flat and transparent access plate cover. Gluing a couple of small bits on the outside edge of the cover made it easy to remove from the cockpit side. So when the weather was fine, I just left the cover out. When it was snotty or raining, I just removed it whenever I needed to punch a button. Of course, that was a Garmin 182C, so a 4? 4.5? inch hole was perfect. For a radar the bulkhead wouldn't be so good, but the idea of a hatch, sliding, hinged, what ever works very well! td DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.

hmm, interesting idea! ----- Original Message ----- From: carlos Solanilla To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Lexan (Mike) can you make your lexan hatch door in 3 stacking pieces? Since the hatchboard is an upside down trapeze, then you can live the middle third hatch out and be able to see the plotter ----- Original Message ---- From: "Downing, Thomas" <Th… [at] ipc.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:14:19 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Lexan (Mike) > Bob Walden wrote: > [snip] > > One issue I have now is that we just put in a radar/chartplotter on a swing arm, > and while it works great, you can't use it in the cockpit if the hatchboard is > in. I've thought of going to a completely transparent lexan hatchboard, or one > with a "window" of clear lexan. Would it be crazy to put in a sliding door so > one could reach in to adjust the radar without taking out the hatchboard? :-) > Maybe now I'm getting silly. I think it's a good idea. On my Cal 2-27 I had a similar arrangement for my chartplotter. In my case, the chartplotter was also on a swing arm, but when swung aft for reading from the cockpit, it didn't swing into the companion, instead it swung up flush against the aft bulkhead of the cabin, and just there I cut a hole. I put an ordinary round access plate ring in it, and found a flat and transparent access plate cover. Gluing a couple of small bits on the outside edge of the cover made it easy to remove from the cockpit side. So when the weather was fine, I just left the cover out. When it was snotty or raining, I just removed it whenever I needed to punch a button. Of course, that was a Garmin 182C, so a 4? 4.5? inch hole was perfect. For a radar the bulkhead wouldn't be so good, but the idea of a hatch, sliding, hinged, what ever works very well! td DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

Hi, Carlos. when I make a multiple part hatchboard, I bevel (or champher or slant) the the edges between the parts toward the outside. Creates an overlap to keep water out in rain. Can be done with a skilsaw with a sideguide (for straight cutting) and a canted bed on the saw. I use wood, but lexan can be cut this way with a fine blade. As Roger knows, I don't have a workshop. I do these on the picnic table in my little back yard. Kinda puts a premium on creativity. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of carlos Solanilla Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:13 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Lexan (Mike) can you make your lexan hatch door in 3 stacking pieces? Since the hatchboard is an upside down trapeze, then you can live the middle third hatch out and be able to see the plotter From: "Downing, Thomas" <Th… [at] ipc.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:14:19 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Lexan (Mike) > Bob Walden wrote: > [snip] > > One issue I have now is that we just put in a radar/chartplotter on a swing arm, > and while it works great, you can't use it in the cockpit if the hatchboard is > in. I've thought of going to a completely transparent lexan hatchboard, or one > with a "window" of clear lexan. Would it be crazy to put in a sliding door so > one could reach in to adjust the radar without taking out the hatchboard? :-) > Maybe now I'm getting silly. I think it's a good idea. On my Cal 2-27 I had a similar arrangement for my chartplotter. In my case, the chartplotter was also on a swing arm, but when swung aft for reading from the cockpit, it didn't swing into the companion, instead it swung up flush against the aft bulkhead of the cabin, and just there I cut a hole. I put an ordinary round access plate ring in it, and found a flat and transparent access plate cover. Gluing a couple of small bits on the outside edge of the cover made it easy to remove from the cockpit side. So when the weather was fine, I just left the cover out. When it was snotty or raining, I just removed it whenever I needed to punch a button. Of course, that was a Garmin 182C, so a 4? 4.5? inch hole was perfect. For a radar the bulkhead wouldn't be so good, but the idea of a hatch, sliding, hinged, what ever works very well! td DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. Cheap Talk? Check out <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http://us.rd.yahoo.co m/evt=39663/*http://voice.yahoo.com> Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

That is how I made my lexan door in the CAL39. It has two pieces and I glued a lip on the top piece so the water will run outside. It works for me and it should work for three piece door From: "Husar, Charlie" <hu… [at] bah.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 8, 2006 10:06:05 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Lexan (Mike) Hi, Carlos. when I make a multiple part hatchboard, I bevel (or champher or slant) the the edges between the parts toward the outside. Creates an overlap to keep water out in rain. Can be done with a skilsaw with a sideguide (for straight cutting) and a canted bed on the saw. I use wood, but lexan can be cut this way with a fine blade. As Roger knows, I don't have a workshop. I do these on the picnic table in my little back yard. Kinda puts a premium on creativity. Cheers Charlie From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of carlos Solanilla Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:13 PM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Lexan (Mike) can you make your lexan hatch door in 3 stacking pieces? Since the hatchboard is an upside down trapeze, then you can live the middle third hatch out and be able to see the plotter From: "Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@ ipc.com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:14:19 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Lexan (Mike) > Bob Walden wrote: > [snip] > > One issue I have now is that we just put in a radar/chartplotter on a swing arm, > and while it works great, you can't use it in the cockpit if the hatchboard is > in. I've thought of going to a completely transparent lexan hatchboard, or one > with a "window" of clear lexan. Would it be crazy to put in a sliding door so > one could reach in to adjust the radar without taking out the hatchboard? :-) > Maybe now I'm getting silly. I think it's a good idea. On my Cal 2-27 I had a similar arrangement for my chartplotter. In my case, the chartplotter was also on a swing arm, but when swung aft for reading from the cockpit, it didn't swing into the companion, instead it swung up flush against the aft bulkhead of the cabin, and just there I cut a hole. I put an ordinary round access plate ring in it, and found a flat and transparent access plate cover. Gluing a couple of small bits on the outside edge of the cover made it easy to remove from the cockpit side. So when the weather was fine, I just left the cover out. When it was snotty or raining, I just removed it whenever I needed to punch a button. Of course, that was a Garmin 182C, so a 4? 4.5? inch hole was perfect. For a radar the bulkhead wouldn't be so good, but the idea of a hatch, sliding, hinged, what ever works very well! td DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Husar, Charlie" <husar_charlie@...> wrote: > > Hi, Carlos. when I make a multiple part hatchboard, I bevel (or > champher or slant) the the edges between the parts toward the outside. > Creates an overlap to keep water out in rain. The other way is via a "shiplap," or two matching rabbets that make a right-angle Z-shaped edge--the top piece overhangs the bottom piece in the lap. You can do this with a router, shaper, table saw with dado blade, hand rabbet plane, or a jointer with that option. With this version, you don't have sharp-pointed edges to chip and break. Chris Campbell