7 messages2006-12-13 15:45 UTCthrough 2006-12-14 13:21 UTC
Cal 25 voyage
Scott Sauvageot2006-12-13 15:45 UTC
Hi List, a couple of the Cal 25 owners from the Annapolis Cal 25 fleet and I
are thinking of circumnaviating the DelMarVa peninusla aboard my Cal 25 this
spring/summer.
I already have a list of some things I plan to do to get her ready for the
trip. I was thinking of the following
Gasget and add latches to the forward hatch and lazarettes
upgrade the drop boards, adding latches so they lock in place.
weather strip the pop-top and add lock pins to keep it from "lifting" in
breaking seas
Jack line mounts in cockpit and main deck
rent EPIRB
solar charger for battery
add lifelines (for racing these were discarded)
add leeboards to the dinette bunk
increase fuel capacity to 18 gallons (from 6)
storm jib
Any other improvements or upgrades anyone can think of?
Currently, the boat has a new suite of sails (main, AP#1, #3 and Spinnaker)
and a 8 year old mylar #2 that is starting to show some signs of minor delam
along the chafe points.
Cheers,
Scott
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 25 voyage
Husar, Charlie2006-12-13 16:24 UTC
Several Scott:
A bigger boat : - ]
Several means of real time weather access and currents - particular care
to the Deleware Bay (can be a dog), and to Cape Charles (active weather
down there)
A list and contacts for marinas and inlets along the way. Pretty sparse
in Delaware Bay and the ocean.
Enhanced (bigger) batteries - solar charger is slow
How many days do you figure to give the trip?
Cheers
Charlie
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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:45 AM
To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 25 voyage
Hi List, a couple of the Cal 25 owners from the Annapolis Cal 25 fleet
and I are thinking of circumnaviating the DelMarVa peninusla aboard my
Cal 25 this spring/summer.
I already have a list of some things I plan to do to get her ready for
the trip. I was thinking of the following
Gasget and add latches to the forward hatch and lazarettes
upgrade the drop boards, adding latches so they lock in place.
weather strip the pop-top and add lock pins to keep it from "lifting" in
breaking seas
Jack line mounts in cockpit and main deck
rent EPIRB
solar charger for battery
add lifelines (for racing these were discarded)
add leeboards to the dinette bunk
increase fuel capacity to 18 gallons (from 6)
storm jib
Any other improvements or upgrades anyone can think of?
Currently, the boat has a new suite of sails (main, AP#1, #3 and
Spinnaker)
and a 8 year old mylar #2 that is starting to show some signs of minor
delam
along the chafe points.
Cheers,
Scott
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 25 voyage
Scott Sauvageot2006-12-13 16:49 UTC
Charlie,
Would you mind lending me your Cal 40 for a couple weeks? ;-)
We were planning on giving ourselves a window of about two weeks, this way
if weather fronts move through, we can hole up somewhere until storms pass.
I've looked the charts over, and figured that we would sail to Chesapeake
City, and time departure from there based on the current in the C&D. Then
make a single trip to Cape May NJ, From there, refuel, resupply and head
out into the ocean. From there, we were thinking a few days down the ocean
to the Chesapeake Bay, then a series of anchorages as we go back up the bay.
An extra battery or two is a good idea. I do have a charging circuit for my
outboard, but that wastes fuel........ Anyone have a spare wind generator
that will fit the Cal 25? LOL
Since purchasing a larger boat is financially out of the question right now,
I have to make due with my little Cal 25.
Perhaps you can stop by and give me some pointers about making the 25 more
watertight.
Will a trip of that length ruin my racing sails? I assume I should use my
backup sails for this trip?
Scott
>From: "Husar, Charlie" <hu… [at] bah.com>
>Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
>To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 25 voyage
>Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:24:16 -0500
>
>Several Scott:
>
>A bigger boat : - ]
>
>Several means of real time weather access and currents - particular care
>to the Deleware Bay (can be a dog), and to Cape Charles (active weather
>down there)
>
>A list and contacts for marinas and inlets along the way. Pretty sparse
>in Delaware Bay and the ocean.
>
>Enhanced (bigger) batteries - solar charger is slow
>
>How many days do you figure to give the trip?
>
>Cheers
>Charlie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot
>Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:45 AM
>To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 25 voyage
>
>Hi List, a couple of the Cal 25 owners from the Annapolis Cal 25 fleet
>and I are thinking of circumnaviating the DelMarVa peninusla aboard my
>Cal 25 this spring/summer.
>
>I already have a list of some things I plan to do to get her ready for
>the trip. I was thinking of the following
>
>
>
>Gasget and add latches to the forward hatch and lazarettes
>upgrade the drop boards, adding latches so they lock in place.
>weather strip the pop-top and add lock pins to keep it from "lifting" in
>
>breaking seas
>Jack line mounts in cockpit and main deck
>rent EPIRB
>solar charger for battery
>add lifelines (for racing these were discarded)
>add leeboards to the dinette bunk
>increase fuel capacity to 18 gallons (from 6)
>storm jib
>
>Any other improvements or upgrades anyone can think of?
>
>Currently, the boat has a new suite of sails (main, AP#1, #3 and
>Spinnaker)
>and a 8 year old mylar #2 that is starting to show some signs of minor
>delam
>along the chafe points.
>
>Cheers,
>Scott
>
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Re: Cal 25 voyage
egiajack2006-12-14 03:26
I think it's a great idea; a Cal 25 would be plenty to make the trip
with a little planning. I'm definitely the "dance with the one ya
brung" type. And I think your planning is on the right track. Don't
use your racing sails, particularly since a squall at night could
quickly exceed the rated AWS of your sails. Then you'll be
saying "crap!" all the way down the coast.
I've done every leg of this course in various craft, but never all
together, and not all in a sailboat. So I would be intrigued to do
it in my boat. Being in the southern bay, though, I'd be more
tempted to do it counterclockwise because I can pick better offshore
weather, specifically, the normal SW breeze for 3 days that would
carry me up the coast and into the Delaware. Other comments about
the Delaware are correct; it's got no protected bays and the currents
can be unpleasant. Cape Henlopen is okay for a quick stop. Best to
bomb through all this as quickly as possible. Then once through the
C&D, you can take more time and duck into places if the weather is
unfavorable. But if you're starting from Annapolis, of course,
picking the offshore weather might be more dicey. You wouldn't want
the normal SW breeze since it would force you to beat your brains out
despite the somewhat favorable current.
Let me know how you progress with your plans. I'd be tempted to join
you for part of it if you don't mind a bigger sister (31). My
schedule is a bit tighter; 2 weeks would be a hard sell.
Jack
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 25 voyage (Scott)
John Dawson2006-12-14 04:21 UTC
Scott,
There are certainly plenty of Cal experts and local sailors to advise you here. Something like this takes lots of preparation; the comfort factor of a small boat can be pretty low once you get outside with nowhere to hide. Here is the link to the preparation list from your very own Eastport Yacht Club concerning the BOR Grog and Gruel Race as one starting point. I believe its aimed at boats over 32' but should be helpful to you.
http://www.bermudaoceanrace.com/inspect.htm
John Dawson
Scott Sauvageot <rx… [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi List, a couple of the Cal 25 owners from the Annapolis Cal 25 fleet and I
are thinking of circumnaviating the DelMarVa peninusla aboard my Cal 25 this
spring/summer.
I already have a list of some things I plan to do to get her ready for the
trip. I was thinking of the following
Gasget and add latches to the forward hatch and lazarettes
upgrade the drop boards, adding latches so they lock in place.
weather strip the pop-top and add lock pins to keep it from "lifting" in
breaking seas
Jack line mounts in cockpit and main deck
rent EPIRB
solar charger for battery
add lifelines (for racing these were discarded)
add leeboards to the dinette bunk
increase fuel capacity to 18 gallons (from 6)
storm jib
Any other improvements or upgrades anyone can think of?
Currently, the boat has a new suite of sails (main, AP#1, #3 and Spinnaker)
and a 8 year old mylar #2 that is starting to show some signs of minor delam
along the chafe points.
Cheers,
Scott
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 25 voyage (Scott)
John Dawson2006-12-14 04:37 UTC
Jack makes a good point that a counterclockwise trip allows you to deal with strong north winds inside the Bay and wait at the mouth for favorable SW winds. Sailing in company is a huge plus also. The other thing I wanted to suggest was a person on land to monitor your position, progress and condition, with at least daily contacts. If you really want to be tracked well, you might rent the transponder from iboattracker that allows anyone at a computer to view your real-time position, speed, wind vel, etc. All the EC offshore races and many cruisers are using it.
John D.
egiajack <jg… [at] erols.com> wrote:
I think it's a great idea; a Cal 25 would be plenty to make the trip
with a little planning. I'm definitely the "dance with the one ya
brung" type. And I think your planning is on the right track. Don't
use your racing sails, particularly since a squall at night could
quickly exceed the rated AWS of your sails. Then you'll be
saying "crap!" all the way down the coast.
I've done every leg of this course in various craft, but never all
together, and not all in a sailboat. So I would be intrigued to do
it in my boat. Being in the southern bay, though, I'd be more
tempted to do it counterclockwise because I can pick better offshore
weather, specifically, the normal SW breeze for 3 days that would
carry me up the coast and into the Delaware. Other comments about
the Delaware are correct; it's got no protected bays and the currents
can be unpleasant. Cape Henlopen is okay for a quick stop. Best to
bomb through all this as quickly as possible. Then once through the
C&D, you can take more time and duck into places if the weather is
unfavorable. But if you're starting from Annapolis, of course,
picking the offshore weather might be more dicey. You wouldn't want
the normal SW breeze since it would force you to beat your brains out
despite the somewhat favorable current.
Let me know how you progress with your plans. I'd be tempted to join
you for part of it if you don't mind a bigger sister (31). My
schedule is a bit tighter; 2 weeks would be a hard sell.
Jack
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 25 voyage
Husar, Charlie2006-12-14 13:21 UTC
If a high is coming, it produces a northwest blow for a while. Then the
trailing edge provides a southerly. It would seem that leaving on the
front of a high would get one down the Bay quickly, and then would be
followed by a southerly for the ocean trip. Maybe counter clockwise is
the more predictable ticket?
Cheers
Charlie
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of egiajack
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:27 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 25 voyage
I think it's a great idea; a Cal 25 would be plenty to make the trip
with a little planning. I'm definitely the "dance with the one ya
brung" type. And I think your planning is on the right track. Don't
use your racing sails, particularly since a squall at night could
quickly exceed the rated AWS of your sails. Then you'll be saying
"crap!" all the way down the coast.
I've done every leg of this course in various craft, but never all
together, and not all in a sailboat. So I would be intrigued to do it
in my boat. Being in the southern bay, though, I'd be more tempted to
do it counterclockwise because I can pick better offshore weather,
specifically, the normal SW breeze for 3 days that would carry me up the
coast and into the Delaware. Other comments about the Delaware are
correct; it's got no protected bays and the currents can be unpleasant.
Cape Henlopen is okay for a quick stop. Best to bomb through all this
as quickly as possible. Then once through the C&D, you can take more
time and duck into places if the weather is unfavorable. But if you're
starting from Annapolis, of course, picking the offshore weather might
be more dicey. You wouldn't want the normal SW breeze since it would
force you to beat your brains out despite the somewhat favorable
current.
Let me know how you progress with your plans. I'd be tempted to join
you for part of it if you don't mind a bigger sister (31). My schedule
is a bit tighter; 2 weeks would be a hard sell.
Jack
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