SailNet Experience

Just wanted to let everyone know about a very favorable shopping experience. I was authorized by the Ship's Financial Officer to purchase a new, offset pedestal guard so I can mount my instrument suite that has been collecting dust for months and months. My Cal-33 has the 9.5" spacing, 1" diameter guard which is available from Edson and Navpod. I priced them at WM, Defender, that auction place, and SailNet/MarineNet, and called SailNet Sunday to check stock. Apparently they are not open on Sunday, but their phone system found one of the sales team on his cell phone. He didn't know if the item was in stock, so he told me to call back Monday. I did, they had the item in stock, and the person said "if you order it now I can get it out this afternoon." I did, they did, and it was on my doorstep last night when I got home. They still had all my information from when I purchased something over a year ago. I did not ask for any expedited, overnight, or special shipping. The total price was about the same as the auction place, and just over half of list. No relationship with SailNet other than as a previous list member , this purchase, and one previous sales transaction. Al Waschka 1975 Cal-25 #1693, "Sweet Mary" 1985 Cal-33 #0026, "Short Wave"

Hi Al, I also bought an Edson offset pedestal guard for my Cal 33-2, but found that it took up too much space in the cockpit. So I returned it and got a "straight" guard from Edson which was taller than the original. I mounted a Navpod across the guard (above the compass) and installed three Navman control heads plus one Raymarine autohelm control head. Seems to work well so far. I'd be interested in seeing pictures of your installation when you finish. Thanks, Bill Terrell "Tupelo Honey", Cal 33-2 --- aw… [at] bellsouth.net wrote: > Just wanted to let everyone know about a very > favorable shopping experience. I was authorized by > the Ship's Financial Officer to purchase a new, > offset pedestal guard so I can mount my instrument > suite that has been collecting dust for months and > months. My Cal-33 has the 9.5" spacing, 1" diameter > guard which is available from Edson and Navpod. I > priced them at WM, Defender, that auction place, and > SailNet/MarineNet, and called SailNet Sunday to > check stock. Apparently they are not open on > Sunday, but their phone system found one of the > sales team on his cell phone. He didn't know if the > item was in stock, so he told me to call back > Monday. I did, they had the item in stock, and the > person said "if you order it now I can get it out > this afternoon." I did, they did, and it was on my > doorstep last night when I got home. They still had > all my information from when I purchased something > over a year ago. I did not ask for any expedited, > overnight, or special shipping. The total price was > about the same as the auction place, and just over > half of list. > > No relationship with SailNet other than as a > previous list member , this purchase, and one > previous sales transaction. > > Al Waschka > 1975 Cal-25 #1693, "Sweet Mary" > 1985 Cal-33 #0026, "Short Wave" > >

Hi, Al - This was a refreshing change to read! One of the things this list needs is more information on where to go for good deals and good service. It amazes me how willing listees seem to be to bash various vendors when they are inconvenienced and how seldom we hear about great service and low prices. There was study I read that negative news is spread by word of mouth nearly four times more often than good news (The Secrets of Word-of-Mouth Marketing, by George Silverman). The lack of response to your comments, Al, would seem to support that. According to the study, this is because human beings are hard-wired to spread news that helps others avoid danger and thus protects the species (Stay away from that cave. There's a saber-toothed tiger in there.), but that we are also hard-wired not to tell others about things that might aid in their individual survival, because that would create more competition for limited resources (Don't tell Urg there's a lot of berries over there, because he might get stronger than us and take away our women.) Interesting theory, isn't it? Well, since we aren't competing for berries or running from saber-toothed tigers, maybe we should share more of the good stuff like this to make the experience better for all of us. This beats bashing any day. Finally, has anyone heard of the Chinese buying groups that negotiate prices for larger quantities of items by teaming up together to negotiate lower prices for and making volume purchases of cars and household furnishings and appliances and the like? I wonder if this would work for stuff we all need and use like, say, inflatable PFDs and sails. I wonder if North or Air Force or UK would give volume discounts if we bought, say, eight or ten Cal 25 mains. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of aw… [at] bellsouth.net Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 6:27 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] SailNet Experience Just wanted to let everyone know about a very favorable shopping experience. I was authorized by the Ship's Financial Officer to purchase a new, offset pedestal guard so I can mount my instrument suite that has been collecting dust for months and months. My Cal-33 has the 9.5" spacing, 1" diameter guard which is available from Edson and Navpod. I priced them at WM, Defender, that auction place, and SailNet/MarineNet, and called SailNet Sunday to check stock. Apparently they are not open on Sunday, but their phone system found one of the sales team on his cell phone. He didn't know if the item was in stock, so he told me to call back Monday. I did, they had the item in stock, and the person said "if you order it now I can get it out this afternoon." I did, they did, and it was on my doorstep last night when I got home. They still had all my information from when I purchased something over a year ago. I did not ask for any expedited, overnight, or special shipping. The total price was about the same as the auction place, and just over half of list. No relationship with SailNet other than as a previous list member , this purchase, and one previous sales transaction. Al Waschka 1975 Cal-25 #1693, "Sweet Mary" 1985 Cal-33 #0026, "Short Wave"

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Rog Jones" <rog@...> wrote: > > Hi, Al - > > > > This was a refreshing change to read! One of the things this list needs is > more information on where to go for good deals and good service. It amazes > me how willing listees seem to be to bash various vendors when they are > inconvenienced and how seldom we hear about great service and low prices. > > I've posted some reports about where I was getting stuff for the Cal 40 restoration. That is almost done. I've used Jamestown Distributers, Annapolis Performance Sailing and Bosun Supplies plus Mauri Pro Sailing. All have shipped the orders promptly and the prices were fair. I had a chance to visit APS when I was in Annapolis in October and it reminded me of Land's End before they became a clothing store. Internet shopping is here to stay. MIke Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 #96

Hi, Mike. I like APS as well. Also used Mauri Pro with satisfaction (some items out of stock, but followed up quickly). Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:59 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: SailNet Experience (Al) --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Rog Jones" <rog@...> wrote: > > Hi, Al - > > > > This was a refreshing change to read! One of the things this list > needs is more information on where to go for good deals and good > service. It amazes me how willing listees seem to be to bash various > vendors when they are inconvenienced and how seldom we hear about great service and low prices. > > I've posted some reports about where I was getting stuff for the Cal 40 restoration. That is almost done. I've used Jamestown Distributers, Annapolis Performance Sailing and Bosun Supplies plus Mauri Pro Sailing. All have shipped the orders promptly and the prices were fair. I had a chance to visit APS when I was in Annapolis in October and it reminded me of Land's End before they became a clothing store. Internet shopping is here to stay. MIke Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 #96 Yahoo! Groups Links

Bill - Edson makes the offset guard in two offsets. One is 7" deeper than the other. One of their ads says words to the effect that they have moved the instrumets 7" closer to the helmsman. Do you know which one you had? Maybe I should have asked on here before running out and buying something. A friend of mine makes PVC pipe prototypes of such things before committing. I was just in a hurry.....:-) Al Bill Terrell wrote: > Hi Al, > > I also bought an Edson offset pedestal guard for my > Cal 33-2, but found that it took up too much space in > the cockpit. So I returned it and got a "straight" > guard from Edson which was taller than the original. > I mounted a Navpod across the guard (above the > compass) and installed three Navman control heads plus > one Raymarine autohelm control head. Seems to work > well so far. > > I'd be interested in seeing pictures of your > installation when you finish. > > Thanks, > Bill Terrell > "Tupelo Honey", Cal 33-2 >

Al, I believe it was the Edson 58" offset guard #1610. According to the Edson catalog (page 36) it moves the instruments 7" forward, which translates to 7" into the front-side of the cockpit. That's about what I recall during my trial installation. At the same time I replaced the original pedestal guard for a taller straight one, I also installed the integrated cupholder top plate from Edson. This netted two extra cupholders (on top of the three existing ones)...which made the top-10 list of best boat improvements, as voted by the crew :) -Bill --- Al Waschka <aw… [at] bellsouth.net> wrote: > Bill - > > Edson makes the offset guard in two offsets. One is > 7" deeper than the > other. One of their ads says words to the effect > that they have moved > the instrumets 7" closer to the helmsman. Do you > know which one you > had? Maybe I should have asked on here before > running out and buying > something. A friend of mine makes PVC pipe > prototypes of such things > before committing. I was just in a hurry.....:-) > > > > Al > > > Bill Terrell wrote: > > > Hi Al, > > > > I also bought an Edson offset pedestal guard for > my > > Cal 33-2, but found that it took up too much space > in > > the cockpit. So I returned it and got a > "straight" > > guard from Edson which was taller than the > original. > > I mounted a Navpod across the guard (above the > > compass) and installed three Navman control heads > plus > > one Raymarine autohelm control head. Seems to > work > > well so far. > > > > I'd be interested in seeing pictures of your > > installation when you finish. > > > > Thanks, > > Bill Terrell > > "Tupelo Honey", Cal 33-2 > > > >

I put up the offset pedestal in my Cal 33 and it worked out well. I put the navpod for a raymarine color display and two standard ST-60 instruments on the lower (tilted) part and three ST-60s on the upper offset vertical part. It has worked fine. I got the pedestal guard from NavPod also, and the tubing was wider, which is a good thing because of the wires you have to run up it for all the instruments. (Radar cable, GPS stuff, etc, etc) Unfortunately, I do not have any pictures to send and my boat is on the hard in Annapois and I am sadly enough in Cincinnati, Ohio for the next 18 months. Hope this helps. Darr LaFon From: Al Waschka <aw… [at] bellsouth.net> Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:55 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] offset pedestal guard for Cal 33 (Bill) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Bill - > > Edson makes the offset guard in two offsets. One is 7" deeper > than the > other. One of their ads says words to the effect that they have moved > the instrumets 7" closer to the helmsman. Do you know which one you > had? Maybe I should have asked on here before running out and buying > something. A friend of mine makes PVC pipe prototypes of such things > before committing. I was just in a hurry.....:-) > > > > Al > > > Bill Terrell wrote: > > > Hi Al, > > > > I also bought an Edson offset pedestal guard for my > > Cal 33-2, but found that it took up too much space in > > the cockpit. So I returned it and got a "straight" > > guard from Edson which was taller than the original. > > I mounted a Navpod across the guard (above the > > compass) and installed three Navman control heads plus > > one Raymarine autohelm control head. Seems to work > > well so far. > > > > I'd be interested in seeing pictures of your > > installation when you finish. > > > > Thanks, > > Bill Terrell > > "Tupelo Honey", Cal 33-2 > > > >