Re: [Cal_Boats] A peculiar question

Roger, I am of the opinion it is not about the story, but about WHO gets the story, or widow or family members to talk. Do I, or any one else need to see the answer to the question " so how did you feel when you heard the news of your husbands death". My God, how do you think they felt. Ask me, I'll tell you how they felt. The same as the last person you asked the very same question to, on the last tragedy. The Katie Couric interview is just one of many such stories in which journalism is not present. I guess with so many news stations, and so little going on in the world that matters (being facetious here), they need to feed on something. I don't get it! But I have a remote and know how to use it. If a camera could truly relay the essence of passion, whether sailing, mountain climbing, or teaching an eager young person something new, and somehow zap it through the television into the others on the other side, those without passion could feel, what it is to live life. Perhaps then, the ugly path in which the majority of the human race is on, could be altered. That would be good television. So let me pose another peculiar question; Do you think, the passion of sailing is different than other passions in how it affects the soul? Maybe it is just me, having never before found such passion, but I think there is a difference. The comments I have read on this list about the camaraderie found here compared to other discussion groups, (such as the electronics group recently mentioned for example) lends some credence to this. Daniel Casey "Air Time" Cal 9.2R #75 Santa Barbara, Ca.

I'm not going to comment about this particular interview, but they're all alike. Lets face it, how many times have you seen some idiotic reporter asking questions like "How did you feel when the tornado hit your house and crushed your dog?" I keep waiting for someone to answer "How do you THINK I felt when the tornado hit my house you moron? My house and everything I own was destroyed, my dog was crushed in falling debris and now I'm being exploited by some snot nosed unfeeling reporter who pretends to care about my problems to gain ratings." I'm surprised an outreach group (MAMS) "Mom's Against Mountain Sports" hasn't already been formed to prevent such needless tradgedy. They'll form a PAC and lobby congress to enact legislation to make mountain climbing illegal. I agree with others on this list that sailing is one of only a few activities where people seem to be more respectful of each-other. Perhaps it is the "code" that sailors help eachother on the water or perhaps it's just a different mentality that we possess, but I've basically dropped memberships in several other lists because of petty bickering and opinionated arrogance. Here, we kick ideas around, expose their merits and weaknesses, then let people make ultimate decisions for themselves. Sorry to ramble. Scott S. Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable >From: ai… [at] aol.com >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A peculiar question >Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:50:14 EST > >Roger, I am of the opinion it is not about the story, but about WHO gets >the >story, or widow or family members to talk. Do I, or any one else need to >see >the answer to the question " so how did you feel when you heard the news of >your husbands death". My God, how do you think they felt. Ask me, I'll >tell >you how they felt. The same as the last person you asked the very same >question >to, on the last tragedy. The Katie Couric interview is just one of many >such >stories in which journalism is not present. >I guess with so many news stations, and so little going on in the world >that >matters (being facetious here), they need to feed on something. I don't get >it! But I have a remote and know how to use it. >If a camera could truly relay the essence of passion, whether sailing, >mountain climbing, or teaching an eager young person something new, and >somehow >zap it through the television into the others on the other side, those >without >passion could feel, what it is to live life. Perhaps then, the ugly path >in >which the majority of the human race is on, could be altered. That would >be >good television. >So let me pose another peculiar question; >Do you think, the passion of sailing is different than other passions in >how >it affects the soul? >Maybe it is just me, having never before found such passion, but I think >there is a difference. The comments I have read on this list about the >camaraderie found here compared to other discussion groups, (such as the >electronics >group recently mentioned for example) lends some credence to this. > >Daniel Casey >"Air Time" >Cal 9.2R #75 >Santa Barbara, Ca. > Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. �Who will win? http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001

might have already, but I doubt they'd show it. Scott Sauvageot wrote: >I'm not going to comment about this particular interview, but they're all >alike. Lets face it, how many times have you seen some idiotic reporter >asking questions like "How did you feel when the tornado hit your house and >crushed your dog?" I keep waiting for someone to answer "How do you THINK I >felt when the tornado hit my house you moron? My house and everything I own >was destroyed, my dog was crushed in falling debris and now I'm being >exploited by some snot nosed unfeeling reporter who pretends to care about >my problems to gain ratings." > > >

Wow! Dan, what a thoughtful and decent response. You ask about these passions of ours - fabulous question - much better and more meaningful than the one I asked. My view is that in terms of how each of us is effected by sailing or skiing or mountain climbing or whitewater kayaking or whatever that connection with life might be, that there may not be a single answer, but, instead, as many answers as there are people whose lives are enriched by these amazing opportunities. And you are right, if we could find a way to shove that passion through a TV screen and into a living room, we might set the world on a better course. I love this list for just exactly this kind of give and take. Thank you, Dan. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ai… [at] aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:50 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A peculiar question Roger, I am of the opinion it is not about the story, but about WHO gets the story, or widow or family members to talk. Do I, or any one else need to see the answer to the question " so how did you feel when you heard the news of your husbands death". My God, how do you think they felt. Ask me, I'll tell you how they felt. The same as the last person you asked the very same question to, on the last tragedy. The Katie Couric interview is just one of many such stories in which journalism is not present. I guess with so many news stations, and so little going on in the world that matters (being facetious here), they need to feed on something. I don't get it! But I have a remote and know how to use it. If a camera could truly relay the essence of passion, whether sailing, mountain climbing, or teaching an eager young person something new, and somehow zap it through the television into the others on the other side, those without passion could feel, what it is to live life. Perhaps then, the ugly path in which the majority of the human race is on, could be altered. That would be good television. So let me pose another peculiar question; Do you think, the passion of sailing is different than other passions in how it affects the soul? Maybe it is just me, having never before found such passion, but I think there is a difference. The comments I have read on this list about the camaraderie found here compared to other discussion groups, (such as the electronics group recently mentioned for example) lends some credence to this. Daniel Casey "Air Time" Cal 9.2R #75 Santa Barbara, Ca.

Yup. This is a great list, Scott. And it is that openness and respect for others on the list and their feelings and ideas that makes it so helpful to all of us. Aren't we lucky? Thank you for YOUR comments on this. I agree -- it would be nice if somebody called one of these people what they are, but that, of course, would be cut out in the fifteen-second lag between the interview and its airing. No producer is likely to let that get onto the air... Darn!!! Hehehe. Life is good. Sailing makes it a whole lot better. Merry Christmas. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sauvageot Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 6:11 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A peculiar question I'm not going to comment about this particular interview, but they're all alike. Lets face it, how many times have you seen some idiotic reporter asking questions like "How did you feel when the tornado hit your house and crushed your dog?" I keep waiting for someone to answer "How do you THINK I felt when the tornado hit my house you moron? My house and everything I own was destroyed, my dog was crushed in falling debris and now I'm being exploited by some snot nosed unfeeling reporter who pretends to care about my problems to gain ratings." I'm surprised an outreach group (MAMS) "Mom's Against Mountain Sports" hasn't already been formed to prevent such needless tradgedy. They'll form a PAC and lobby congress to enact legislation to make mountain climbing illegal. I agree with others on this list that sailing is one of only a few activities where people seem to be more respectful of each-other. Perhaps it is the "code" that sailors help eachother on the water or perhaps it's just a different mentality that we possess, but I've basically dropped memberships in several other lists because of petty bickering and opinionated arrogance. Here, we kick ideas around, expose their merits and weaknesses, then let people make ultimate decisions for themselves. Sorry to ramble. Scott S. Cal 25 #1651 Indefatigable >From: ai… [at] aol.com >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A peculiar question >Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:50:14 EST > >Roger, I am of the opinion it is not about the story, but about WHO gets >the >story, or widow or family members to talk. Do I, or any one else need to >see >the answer to the question " so how did you feel when you heard the news of >your husbands death". My God, how do you think they felt. Ask me, I'll >tell >you how they felt. The same as the last person you asked the very same >question >to, on the last tragedy. The Katie Couric interview is just one of many >such >stories in which journalism is not present. >I guess with so many news stations, and so little going on in the world >that >matters (being facetious here), they need to feed on something. I don't get >it! But I have a remote and know how to use it. >If a camera could truly relay the essence of passion, whether sailing, >mountain climbing, or teaching an eager young person something new, and >somehow >zap it through the television into the others on the other side, those >without >passion could feel, what it is to live life. Perhaps then, the ugly path >in >which the majority of the human race is on, could be altered. That would >be >good television. >So let me pose another peculiar question; >Do you think, the passion of sailing is different than other passions in >how >it affects the soul? >Maybe it is just me, having never before found such passion, but I think >there is a difference. The comments I have read on this list about the >camaraderie found here compared to other discussion groups, (such as the >electronics >group recently mentioned for example) lends some credence to this. > >Daniel Casey >"Air Time" >Cal 9.2R #75 >Santa Barbara, Ca. > Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win? http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://dav evscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001 Yahoo! Groups Links

ai… [at] aol.com wrote: > > same as the last person you asked the very same question to, on the > last tragedy. The Katie Couric interview is just one of many such > stories in which journalism is not present. > I guess with so many news stations, and so little going on in the > world that matters (being facetious here), they need to feed on > something. I don't get it! But I have a remote and know how to use it. > I have to chime in. Did anybody else see George Clooney's movie about Edward R. Murrow, "Good Night, and Good Luck?" It addressed, among other things, the balance in broadcast journalism between news standards and commercial (money) considerations. In that script, and apparently in that organization at the time, the balance was struck in a proper way. In part, it's because broadcasters were regulated and required to do a certain amount of public-interest programming, since they were using the public's airwaves to make money. We have since abandoned regulation of that industry, giving 'em the air for free with nothing in return, and we get--surprise--nothing in return. There is no sense of social obligation, of dedication to the standards of a profession. So in my case, there is no TV in my household. Actually, there is one...a little tiny B&W portable that I snagged from my neighbor's trash, and that was last plugged in about a year ago. It lives in the storage room. The whole celebrity-of-the-moment obsession of our culture is a mystery. I think it's connected somehow with the data showing that kids don't play outside any more. Their lives are more and more intimately tied to electronic images and experiences. That's why it's important for us to get kids out doing things--sailing with us, playing games, hiking and camping, riding bikes, generally doing things that rely on their own actions and perseverance. Grab a kid, your own or your relative's or the neighbor's, and give them a chance to do things. Throw away your TV (my favorite bumper sticker), or regulate its use. And while you've got the kid out sailing, or biking, or just spending interactive time with an adult, talk about standards and obligations and the kinds of things that produced an Edward R. Murrow--the qualities that go beyond dollars and beyond momentary fame. Chris Campbell the older I get, the more important these things seem.