stainless steel weld rust

My stainless steel pulpit was damaged and I had several of the joints re-welded. After the first rain, I noticed rust around the new welds. Is this normal or was something wrong with the way it was welded. Thanks for any info someone may have. My other pulpit is probably beyond repair. Does anyone have a recommendation on where to get a replacement? I am in the Washington, DC vicinity (Northern Virginia).

grahamrevans wrote: > > My stainless steel pulpit was damaged and I had several of the joints > re-welded. After the first rain, I noticed rust around the new welds. > Is this normal or was something wrong with the way it was welded. > Thanks for any info someone may have. > I've read, on this list or others, that you need to "passivate" the welded areas to remove carbon (?). It's done with acid, and you can buy an appropriate acid at the hardware store in the form of Naval Jelly. To test this theory, I had a horseshoe PFD bracket modified to hold a ring buoy. Took it to a local welder and had 'em weld on some pieces. Then I applied Naval Jelly to their welds and have had no rusting at all. I'm in fresh water, which may make it all less difficult. Chris Campbell

I think Chris is on the right track http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation I an EE and not materials guy, but you may be able to sand those areas and, with care, passivate it yourself. At work, I'm two doors away from the most amazing Materials&Processes folks, so if you don't get a better response on this thread, let me know. I'll talk to the 'masters" where I work @ http://www.ssloral.com/. They can solve anything. Dave 80 35 Runnin Late SF Bay Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: grahamrevans wrote: My stainless steel pulpit was damaged and I had several of the joints re-welded. After the first rain, I noticed rust around the new welds. Is this normal or was something wrong with the way it was welded. Thanks for any info someone may have. I've read, on this list or others, that you need to "passivate" the welded areas to remove carbon (?). It's done with acid, and you can buy an appropriate acid at the hardware store in the form of Naval Jelly. To test this theory, I had a horseshoe PFD bracket modified to hold a ring buoy. Took it to a local welder and had 'em weld on some pieces. Then I applied Naval Jelly to their welds and have had no rusting at all. I'm in fresh water, which may make it all less difficult. Chris Campbell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

You need to passivate the weld. It's really simple. A good wipe with naval jelly or a phosphoric acid douche or spray will do it. Takes maybe a minute. Ace hardware has this stuff. \Rog Cal 29+ #1 Swiss Navy Cal 2-30 #77 St. Lori's Comet _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of grahamrevans Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:02 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] stainless steel weld rust My stainless steel pulpit was damaged and I had several of the joints re-welded. After the first rain, I noticed rust around the new welds. Is this normal or was something wrong with the way it was welded. Thanks for any info someone may have. My other pulpit is probably beyond repair. Does anyone have a recommendation on where to get a replacement? I am in the Washington, DC vicinity (Northern Virginia).

Ithink a call to Garhauer will tell you all you need to know, they build all the rigging for Catalina and other builders in Southern Calif. They are building us a new main traviler for our cal 34 at this time . Ask For Guio they are great people to know Dave Paulson Allergia Cal334 Channel Islands ----- Original Message ----- From: biggs dave To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] stainless steel weld rust I think Chris is on the right track http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation I an EE and not materials guy, but you may be able to sand those areas and, with care, passivate it yourself. At work, I'm two doors away from the most amazing Materials&Processes folks, so if you don't get a better response on this thread, let me know. I'll talk to the 'masters" where I work @ http://www.ssloral.com/. They can solve anything. Dave 80 35 Runnin Late SF Bay Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: grahamrevans wrote:

Hi Dave, When your traveler is done, would you mind posting a photo of the finished install? I've been thinking of a new traveler for my 34 and would love to see what you rigged up. thanks, Kirk Cal 34 Footloose Paulson wrote: > Ithink a call to Garhauer will tell you all you need to know, they > build all the rigging for Catalina and other builders in Southern Calif. > They are building us a new main traviler for our cal 34 at this time . > Ask For Guio they are great people to know > Dave Paulson > Allergia Cal334 > Channel Islands > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* biggs dave <mailto:im… [at] yahoo.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, January 05, 2007 6:40 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] stainless steel weld rust > > I think Chris is on the right track > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation> > > I an EE and not materials guy, but you may be able to sand those > areas and, with care, passivate it yourself. At work, I'm two doors > away from the most amazing Materials&Processes folks, so if you > don't get a better response on this thread, let me know. I'll talk > to the 'masters" where I work @ http://www.ssloral.com/ > <http://www.ssloral.com/>. They can solve anything. > > Dave > 80 35 Runnin Late > SF Bay > > */Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com>/* wrote: > > grahamrevans wrote: > > -- Kirk Grier kg… [at] kirkgrier.com http://kirkgrier.com/

Garhauer built the traveler for Moon Shadow 3-34, and did an awesome job! There are some photos on the 2nd page in the photos section, one titled "traveler" and one on the first page titled " view from the mast". I may have some other photos of the set up I can send if you need them. Glen Fromm Cal 3-34 Moon Shadow --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Paulson" <dpaulson@...> wrote: > > Ithink a call to Garhauer will tell you all you need to know, they build all the rigging for Catalina and other builders in Southern Calif. They are building us a new main traviler for our cal 34 at this time . Ask For Guio they are great people to know > Dave Paulson > Allergia Cal334 > Channel Islands > ----- Original Message ----- > From: biggs dave > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] stainless steel weld rust > > > > I think Chris is on the right track > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation > > I an EE and not materials guy, but you may be able to sand those areas and, with care, passivate it yourself. At work, I'm two doors away from the most amazing Materials&Processes folks, so if you don't get a better response on this thread, let me know. I'll talk to the 'masters" where I work @ http://www.ssloral.com/. They can solve anything. > > Dave > 80 35 Runnin Late > SF Bay > > Chris Campbell clcampbell@... wrote: > grahamrevans wrote: >

Many thanks to everyone for the valuable tips. Graham Nefertiti 1974 Cal 2-29 --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Glen Fromm" <glenfromm@...> wrote: > > > Garhauer built the traveler for Moon Shadow 3-34, and did an awesome > job! There are some photos on the 2nd page in the photos section, one > titled "traveler" and one on the first page titled " view from the > mast". I may have some other photos of the set up I can send if you need > them. > > Glen Fromm > > Cal 3-34 > > Moon Shadow > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Paulson" <dpaulson@> wrote: > > > > Ithink a call to Garhauer will tell you all you need to know, they > build all the rigging for Catalina and other builders in Southern Calif. > They are building us a new main traviler for our cal 34 at this time . > Ask For Guio they are great people to know > > Dave Paulson > > Allergia Cal334 > > Channel Islands > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: biggs dave > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 6:40 PM > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] stainless steel weld rust > > > > > > > > I think Chris is on the right track > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation > > > > I an EE and not materials guy, but you may be able to sand those areas > and, with care, passivate it yourself. At work, I'm two doors away from > the most amazing Materials&Processes folks, so if you don't get a better > response on this thread, let me know. I'll talk to the 'masters" where I > work @ http://www.ssloral.com/. They can solve anything. > > > > Dave > > 80 35 Runnin Late > > SF Bay > > > > Chris Campbell clcampbell@ wrote: > > grahamrevans wrote: > > >

Kirk Travler is done and Garhauer did a great job All the holes matched. I hope this weekend I can take some Pics and get my sons to send them to you. I think It may be easier to send direct to you then post them on the cal list ,I dont know Willtry Dave Paulson Allergia Cal334 Channel Islands Ca ----- Original Message ----- From: Kirk Grier To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:30 PM Subject: Garhauer Traveler was Re: [Cal_Boats] stainless steel weld rust Hi Dave, When your traveler is done, would you mind posting a photo of the finished install? I've been thinking of a new traveler for my 34 and would love to see what you rigged up. thanks, Kirk Cal 34 Footloose Paulson wrote: > Ithink a call to Garhauer will tell you all you need to know, they > build all the rigging for Catalina and other builders in Southern Calif. > They are building us a new main traviler for our cal 34 at this time . > Ask For Guio they are great people to know > Dave Paulson > Allergia Cal334 > Channel Islands > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* biggs dave <mailto:im… [at] yahoo.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, January 05, 2007 6:40 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] stainless steel weld rust > > I think Chris is on the right track > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation> > > I an EE and not materials guy, but you may be able to sand those > areas and, with care, passivate it yourself. At work, I'm two doors > away from the most amazing Materials&Processes folks, so if you > don't get a better response on this thread, let me know. I'll talk > to the 'masters" where I work @ http://www.ssloral.com/ > <http://www.ssloral.com/>. They can solve anything. > > Dave > 80 35 Runnin Late > SF Bay > > */Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com>/* wrote: > > grahamrevans wrote: > > -- Kirk Grier kg… [at] kirkgrier.com http://kirkgrier.com/

Dave, Cool! I'm looking forward to the pix. You can email them to me at kg… [at] kirkgrier.com. Thanks for remembering, - Kirk Paulson wrote: > Kirk > Travler is done and Garhauer did a great job All the holes matched. I > hope this weekend I can take some Pics and get my sons to send them to > you. I think It may be easier to send direct to you then post them on > the cal list ,I dont know > Willtry > Dave Paulson > Allergia Cal334 > Channel Islands Ca > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Kirk Grier <mailto:kg… [at] kirkgrier.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, January 05, 2007 11:30 PM > *Subject:* Garhauer Traveler was Re: [Cal_Boats] stainless steel > weld rust > > Hi Dave, > > When your traveler is done, would you mind posting a photo of the > finished install? I've been thinking of a new traveler for my 34 and > would love to see what you rigged up. > > thanks, Kirk > Cal 34 Footloose > > Paulson wrote: > > Ithink a call to Garhauer will tell you all you need to know, they > > build all the rigging for Catalina and other builders in Southern > Calif. > > They are building us a new main traviler for our cal 34 at this > time . > > Ask For Guio they are great people to know > > Dave Paulson > > Allergia Cal334 > > Channel Islands > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* biggs dave <mailto:im… [at] yahoo.com > <mailto:imissedmyface%40yahoo.com>> > > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>> > > *Sent:* Friday, January 05, 2007 6:40 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] stainless steel weld rust > > > > I think Chris is on the right track > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation> > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation>> > > > > I an EE and not materials guy, but you may be able to sand those > > areas and, with care, passivate it yourself. At work, I'm two doors > > away from the most amazing Materials&Processes folks, so if you > > don't get a better response on this thread, let me know. I'll talk > > to the 'masters" where I work @ http://www.ssloral.com/ > <http://www.ssloral.com/> > > <http://www.ssloral.com/ <http://www.ssloral.com/>>. They can > solve anything. > > > > Dave > > 80 35 Runnin Late > > SF Bay > > > > */Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com > <mailto:clcampbell%40charterinternet.com>>/* wrote: > > > > grahamrevans wrote: > > > > > > -- > Kirk Grier > kg… [at] kirkgrier.com <mailto:kgg%40kirkgrier.com> > http://kirkgrier.com/ <http://kirkgrier.com/> > > -- Kirk Grier kg… [at] kirkgrier.com http://kirkgrier.com/

Dave Went down to Garhauer today and ordered my new Traveler. Great people, lots of goodies everywhere. Thanks all for the input. Chuck Second Fiddle Cal 2-34 Paulson <dp… [at] socal.rr.com> wrote: Kirk Travler is done and Garhauer did a great job All the holes matched. I hope this weekend I can take some Pics and get my sons to send them to you. I think It may be easier to send direct to you then post them on the cal list ,I dont know Willtry Dave Paulson Allergia Cal334 Channel Islands Ca ----- Original Message ----- From: Kirk Grier To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:30 PM Subject: Garhauer Traveler was Re: [Cal_Boats] stainless steel weld rust Hi Dave, When your traveler is done, would you mind posting a photo of the finished install? I've been thinking of a new traveler for my 34 and would love to see what you rigged up. thanks, Kirk Cal 34 Footloose Paulson wrote: > Ithink a call to Garhauer will tell you all you need to know, they > build all the rigging for Catalina and other builders in Southern Calif. > They are building us a new main traviler for our cal 34 at this time . > Ask For Guio they are great people to know > Dave Paulson > Allergia Cal334 > Channel Islands > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* biggs dave <mailto:im… [at] yahoo.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, January 05, 2007 6:40 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] stainless steel weld rust > > I think Chris is on the right track > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation> > > I an EE and not materials guy, but you may be able to sand those > areas and, with care, passivate it yourself. At work, I'm two doors > away from the most amazing Materials&Processes folks, so if you > don't get a better response on this thread, let me know. I'll talk > to the 'masters" where I work @ http://www.ssloral.com/ > <http://www.ssloral.com/>. They can solve anything. > > Dave > 80 35 Runnin Late > SF Bay > > */Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com>/* wrote: > > grahamrevans wrote: > > -- Kirk Grier kg… [at] kirkgrier.com http://kirkgrier.com/ --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.