Perkins 4108

In reading about the various diesels, I wondered if there were any strong opinions about the Perkins 4108? Mine supposedly has apx 950 hours on it (hard to believe)and I am on a severe learning curve trying to determine the real condition (I have my doubts due to significant smoking when I throttle up). I noted another on e-Bay available for $1500, allegedly with apx 360 hours from a skid steer loader. Rebuilding the existing motor or trading in the block seems to be +$4000 without a rebuild of injectors. Regan James CC36 #13.

Mine has about 1400 hours on it and had a recent valve job. Runs great, no smoke to speak of on startup.Starts the first try everytime so far(I just bought the boat a month ago) Leaks from the front and mainseal currently. My intake has a slight leak and needs to be tightened up. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Regan James" <regan.james@...> wrote: > > In reading about the various diesels, I wondered if there were any > strong opinions about the Perkins 4108? Mine supposedly has apx 950 > hours on it (hard to believe)and I am on a severe learning curve trying > to determine the real condition (I have my doubts due to significant > smoking when I throttle up). I noted another on e-Bay available for > $1500, allegedly with apx 360 hours from a skid steer loader. > Rebuilding the existing motor or trading in the block seems to be > +$4000 without a rebuild of injectors. Regan James CC36 #13. >

--- Regan James <re… [at] dslextreme.com> wrote: > In reading about the various diesels, I wondered if > there were any > strong opinions about the Perkins 4108? ***Very good old technology engine. I sold five of them last year. Simple, easy and inexpensive to maintain, Mine > supposedly has apx 950 > hours on it (hard to believe)and I am on a severe > learning curve trying ***We called it the "Cruisers' Conundrum". Engine misses one time, OMIGOD, I gotta have a new engine. Trouble shoot one thing at a time, could be dirty or old fuel, sticky injectors, sludge, etc. Add some Marvel Mystery Oil to your lube oil and fuel, instructions on the can. > to determine the real condition (I have my doubts > due to significant > smoking when I throttle up). ***The fuel injectors should be tested and calibrated each 1,000 hours. Most diesels will smoke when loaded. Ever follow a large truck up a mountain? Pull your injectors and take to a fuel injector service shop. Keep your fuel tank clean and have a good water seperator filter. Use an additive such as Biobar or PR-D I noted another on > e-Bay available for > $1500, allegedly with apx 360 hours from a skid > steer loader. ***May be a good deal, be wary as construction equipment is often mistreated.. > Rebuilding the existing motor or trading in the > block seems to be > +$4000 without a rebuild of injectors. Regan James > CC36 #13. > >***Depends on what part of the country you are in. Assuming normal rebuild, here in Baja Alabama, about $1,500 to $2,500 if you remove and replace. ***BTW, I have a lot of New Old Stock, NOS Perkins 4-108 parts. Tom Vandiver, Cal Cruising 46, Satori, hull #3,Perkins 4-236, 3,600 hours like new, Cal 25 Bravura hull #737, Yamarha 8 ,neither for sale Live, love and SAIL

Tom: You'll be happy to know the new Orleans west marine store opened this week and it truly is just about the only soul around in that neighborhood in lakeview. That puts west marine back in my good graces! janet Janet Plume, Editor/Gulf Shipper 826 Fern Street New Orleans, La. 70118 504-866-7076 cell: 504-250-4539 email: jp… [at] joc.com We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Vandiver Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:52 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Perkins 4108 --- Regan James <regan.james@ <mailto:regan.james%40dslextreme.com> dslextreme.com> wrote: > In reading about the various diesels, I wondered if > there were any > strong opinions about the Perkins 4108? ***Very good old technology engine. I sold five of them last year. Simple, easy and inexpensive to maintain, Mine > supposedly has apx 950 > hours on it (hard to believe)and I am on a severe > learning curve trying ***We called it the "Cruisers' Conundrum". Engine misses one time, OMIGOD, I gotta have a new engine. Trouble shoot one thing at a time, could be dirty or old fuel, sticky injectors, sludge, etc. Add some Marvel Mystery Oil to your lube oil and fuel, instructions on the can. > to determine the real condition (I have my doubts > due to significant > smoking when I throttle up). ***The fuel injectors should be tested and calibrated each 1,000 hours. Most diesels will smoke when loaded. Ever follow a large truck up a mountain? Pull your injectors and take to a fuel injector service shop. Keep your fuel tank clean and have a good water seperator filter. Use an additive such as Biobar or PR-D I noted another on > e-Bay available for > $1500, allegedly with apx 360 hours from a skid > steer loader. ***May be a good deal, be wary as construction equipment is often mistreated.. > Rebuilding the existing motor or trading in the > block seems to be > +$4000 without a rebuild of injectors. Regan James > CC36 #13. > >***Depends on what part of the country you are in. Assuming normal rebuild, here in Baja Alabama, about $1,500 to $2,500 if you remove and replace. ***BTW, I have a lot of New Old Stock, NOS Perkins 4-108 parts. Tom Vandiver, Cal Cruising 46, Satori, hull #3,Perkins 4-236, 3,600 hours like new, Cal 25 Bravura hull #737, Yamarha 8 ,neither for sale Live, love and SAIL

Tom, thank you for your response on this - I lost this thread and just refound it. I have put new fuel tanks into the boat and managed to prime the system without difficulty. There had been 57 gallons of fuel when I took it apart. The previous owner was under the impression that there was 5-6 gallons in that rusted tank - I was surprised. Anyhow - needless to say I had the fuel polished and the engine started and ran very well (much better than at delivery).I need to replace the filters (I am assuming) and then will do as you suggest. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Tom Vandiver <bshmarine@...> wrote: > > > --- Regan James <regan.james@...> wrote: > > > In reading about the various diesels, I wondered if > > there were any > > strong opinions about the Perkins 4108? > > ***Very good old technology engine. I sold five of > them last year. Simple, easy and inexpensive to > maintain, > Mine > > supposedly has apx 950 > > hours on it (hard to believe)and I am on a severe > > learning curve trying > > ***We called it the "Cruisers' Conundrum". Engine > misses one time, OMIGOD, I gotta have a new engine. > Trouble shoot one thing at a time, could be dirty or > old fuel, sticky injectors, sludge, etc. Add some > Marvel Mystery Oil to your lube oil and fuel, > instructions on the can. > > > to determine the real condition (I have my doubts > > due to significant > > smoking when I throttle up). > > ***The fuel injectors should be tested and calibrated > each 1,000 hours. Most diesels will smoke when loaded. > Ever follow a large truck up a mountain? > Pull your injectors and take to a fuel injector > service shop. Keep your fuel tank clean and have a > good water seperator filter. Use an additive such as > Biobar or PR-D > > I noted another on > > e-Bay available for > > $1500, allegedly with apx 360 hours from a skid > > steer loader. > > ***May be a good deal, be wary as construction > equipment is often mistreated.. > > > Rebuilding the existing motor or trading in the > > block seems to be > > +$4000 without a rebuild of injectors. Regan James > > CC36 #13. > > > >***Depends on what part of the country you are in. > Assuming normal rebuild, here in Baja Alabama, about > $1,500 to $2,500 if you remove and replace. > > ***BTW, I have a lot of New Old Stock, NOS Perkins > 4-108 parts. > > Tom Vandiver, Cal Cruising 46, Satori, hull #3,Perkins > 4-236, 3,600 hours like new, Cal 25 Bravura hull #737, > Yamarha 8 ,neither for sale > > Live, love and SAIL >