Re: [Cal_Boats] The good and the bad days of boat ownership...

OH Sabine, that is just sickening bad luck. I hope all works out for you. If I can help out with something, please let me know. Daniel Casey "Air Time" Cal 9.2R #75 Santa Barbara, Ca. P. S. your phone # somehow was erased in my cell, could you send it to me again off list. ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

What a bummer !!! I am going out to my Cal 25 right now and check on her. Is there some way the "pro installer" could help out now? Is there some kind of liability involved? I mean I hate litigation, but, would the guy offer to make sure this doesn't happen again to you or anyone else? Best of luck and hopes for inexpensive, speedy repairs. Dave Tice Morro Bay Cal 25 "Bluefin" ai… [at] aol.com wrote: OH Sabine, that is just sickening bad luck. I hope all works out for you. If I can help out with something, please let me know. Daniel Casey "Air Time" Cal 9.2R #75 Santa Barbara, Ca. P. S. your phone # somehow was erased in my cell, could you send it to me again off list. --------------------------------- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Sabine. These ole boats can take a lot. Keep us informed. It may only add charater. Randy [su… [at] yahoo.co.uk] wrote: I just had to learn the hard way how close together the good days in sailing and boatowner-ship can be with the absolute worst days ... ... after bringing her up to Santa Barbara only about 1 month ago and out to her mooring about 10 days ago - on Wednesday one of the links in the topchain broke in flat calm seas and "my lil old boat" washed up on the beach... ...she took reasonably good care of herself and landed on an stretch of beach of 200 ft containing no rocks (surrounded by areas with quite large rocks) so her hull is intact as far as I can tell. She got tossed around quite a bit by the waves though and the towing off the beach was tough on her too, so I don't know yet how much damage the keel and the rudder sustained... I do hope she will be back "on her feet" soon ... Sabine S/V "Night and Day", Cal 25 What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

Sabine, Just getting caught up on Cal news - somehow I was disconnected in cyberspace with the yahoogroup folks for about a week. Appears to be back on track. Anyway, from here in the Great Lakes their are few Moorings, so I am not familiar with them, but it sounds like just putting at least two chains on makes alot of sense. Later, Nick 'Jade' Cal 9.2 From: Kirk Grier <kg… [at] kirkgrier.com> Sabine, I am sorry to hear your news. There are few sites more forlorn than a sailboat high and dry on the beach, especially here in Santa Barbara. On the positive thought side, while I don't recall the year of "Night and Day", I have personal experience with a 1965 Cal 25 hard grounding. I was onboard her when she was refloated as the tide came in, and from the pounding I feared the worst. Yet they are quite strong hulls, we escaped with a bent rudder stock and easily repaired superficial damage. Good luck. Kirk Cal 34 "Footloose" . . wrote: > I just had to learn the hard way how close together > the good days in sailing and boatowner-ship can be > with the absolute worst days ... > > ... after bringing her up to Santa Barbara only about > 1 month ago and out to her mooring about 10 days ago - > on Wednesday one of the links in the topchain broke in > flat calm seas and "my lil old boat" washed up on the > beach... > > ...she took reasonably good care of herself and landed > on an stretch of beach of 200 ft containing no rocks > (surrounded by areas with quite large rocks) so her > hull is intact as far as I can tell. She got tossed > around quite a bit by the waves though and the towing > off the beach was tough on her too, so I don't know > yet how much damage the keel and the rudder > sustained... > > I do hope she will be back "on her feet" soon ... > > Sabine > > S/V "Night and Day", Cal 25 > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. > http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > -- Kirk Grier kg… [at] kirkgrier.com http://kirkgrier.com/

ng… [at] comcast.net wrote: > > > Anyway, from here in the Great Lakes their are few Moorings, so I am > not familiar with them, but it sounds like just putting at least two > chains on makes alot of sense. Nick: From what I've read and seen, one chain is the rule. Some mooring systems use one chain with two parts: a heavy bottom chain, and a lighter one rising from the heavy one to the buoy. If you use, two, there's be problems with twisting and tangling, I think. I agree that we on the Great Lakes don't see many mooring fields. My boat hangs on one here in Traverse City because there are not enough other options. Fortunately, we have a relatively sheltered part of the Bay to drop our moorings in, although the occasional really big storm presents a challenge. We had one big storm about 8 years ago or so and it took twenty plus boats ashore. As with hurricane damage, problems are exacerbated when one poorly-secured boat breaks loose and runs into others, causing then to break loose. Quite a few of the twenty were just plain badly secured. Another problem is the mooring line, usually nylon. Nylon stretches and absorbs shock, but under great and repeated stress, the internal friction of stretching all those little fibers makes it heat up inside and melt. It's not so much chafe as internal friction and heat that damages mooring lines. In the big storm, our local schooner was moored inside a breakwater, but there was wave action through the breakwater and we had numerous mooring line failures--we finally cut up our anchor rode to replace the failing mooring lines. We maintained watches on the vessel and had the whole crew on call to replace mooring lines as they gave up. A local tire dealer gave us a bunch of used tires for temporary fenders. My other boat is in a place that has no mooring fields, and the only option is the marinas. Think $$$$$$. I keep pondering the notion of seeking creation of a mooring field. Chris Campbell