Engine Survey (was: oil) [Joe deMers]

Joe (and anyone else who wants to chime in), I know someone who is looking at buying a used boat in Annapolis. It has a Westerbeke that was reportedly "recently rebuilt". It's not clear how long the boat has been on the hard; it could be just for the past winter, or it could be for a year and a half. I'm not familiar with diesels (Pentaquod has the Atomic 4, which I've learned to love). Can an "engine survey" be conducted while it's on the stands, or does that require a sea trial? If so, should we expect the surveyor to do this, or should we get a diesel mechanic to do the test/inspection? Does anyone have someone who they can recommend in the Annapolis area? Thanks, Alfred Poor 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod"

From: Alfred Poor To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Engine Survey (was: oil) [Joe deMers] Joe (and anyone else who wants to chime in), I know someone who is looking at buying a used boat in Annapolis. It has a Westerbeke that was reportedly "recently rebuilt". ***** I would inquire about who actually did the work, and ask to see the parts receipts. A professionally rebuilt engine is worth a LOT more than one "rebuilt" in someone's basement. It's not clear how long the boat has been on the hard; it could be just for the past winter, or it could be for a year and a half. I'm not familiar with diesels (Pentaquod has the Atomic 4, which I've learned to love). Can an "engine survey" be conducted while it's on the stands, ***** Yes, a "static" survey, where much can be learned by observation. or does that require a sea trial? **** A dynamic engine evaluation is preferred. If so, should we expect the surveyor to do this, ***** Most surveyors are not diesel mechanics. or should we get a diesel mechanic to do the test/inspection? ***** Yes. Joe DeMers Sound Marine Diesel LLC www.soundmarinediesel.com Does anyone have someone who they can recommend in the Annapolis area? Thanks, Alfred Poor 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/733 - Release Date: 3/25/2007 11:07 AM

I love my Westerbeke. When I bought my Aloha it had been on the hard 1 year. I did my own survey, but had well recommended diesel mechanic survey the engine, and also had an engine escrow to cover the one day delivery. td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Joe DeMers Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:27 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Engine Survey (was: oil) [Joe deMers] From: Alfred <mailto:ap… [at] bellatlantic.net> Poor To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ps.com Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Engine Survey (was: oil) [Joe deMers] Joe (and anyone else who wants to chime in), I know someone who is looking at buying a used boat in Annapolis. It has a Westerbeke that was reportedly "recently rebuilt". ***** I would inquire about who actually did the work, and ask to see the parts receipts. A professionally rebuilt engine is worth a LOT more than one "rebuilt" in someone's basement. It's not clear how long the boat has been on the hard; it could be just for the past winter, or it could be for a year and a half. I'm not familiar with diesels (Pentaquod has the Atomic 4, which I've learned to love). Can an "engine survey" be conducted while it's on the stands, ***** Yes, a "static" survey, where much can be learned by observation. or does that require a sea trial? **** A dynamic engine evaluation is preferred. If so, should we expect the surveyor to do this, ***** Most surveyors are not diesel mechanics. or should we get a diesel mechanic to do the test/inspection? ***** Yes. Joe DeMers Sound Marine Diesel LLC www.soundmarinedies <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com> el.com Does anyone have someone who they can recommend in the Annapolis area? Thanks, Alfred Poor 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod" _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/733 - Release Date: 3/25/2007 11:07 AM DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

A good mechanic is Rudi Schlesner of East Coast Diesel. His cell no. is 1-410-739-5596. I suspect that any good mechanic is very busy this time of year. Harleigh Ewell Cal 31 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe DeMers Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:27 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Engine Survey (was: oil) [Joe deMers] From: Alfred Poor <mailto:ap… [at] bellatlantic.net> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ps.com Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Engine Survey (was: oil) [Joe deMers] Joe (and anyone else who wants to chime in), I know someone who is looking at buying a used boat in Annapolis. It has a Westerbeke that was reportedly "recently rebuilt". ***** I would inquire about who actually did the work, and ask to see the parts receipts. A professionally rebuilt engine is worth a LOT more than one "rebuilt" in someone's basement. It's not clear how long the boat has been on the hard; it could be just for the past winter, or it could be for a year and a half. I'm not familiar with diesels (Pentaquod has the Atomic 4, which I've learned to love). Can an "engine survey" be conducted while it's on the stands, ***** Yes, a "static" survey, where much can be learned by observation. or does that require a sea trial? **** A dynamic engine evaluation is preferred. If so, should we expect the surveyor to do this, ***** Most surveyors are not diesel mechanics. or should we get a diesel mechanic to do the test/inspection? ***** Yes. Joe DeMers Sound Marine Diesel LLC www.soundmarinedies <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com> el.com Does anyone have someone who they can recommend in the Annapolis area? Thanks, Alfred Poor 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod" _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/733 - Release Date: 3/25/2007 11:07 AM