Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ?

Anyone know what the total height (clearance) is on a Cal-27 T/2? Preferably an exact measurement from a previous owner that ran into a bridge, for example?? :-) I've loaded my T/2 down with lots of stuff, so I'm maybe a few inches lower... Our marina owner is booting most of us out since he's converting the area into a condo / marina thing.... yuck... Anyway, I'm looking at another slip - but I need to have bridge clearance of 45' ... which I suspect is not a problem, but I can't remember the whole Cal-27 "Tall Mast" versus "Shorter Mast" thing... I'll take any info I can get on this - I prefer not to find out I'm too tall 'the hard way'. ;-) Chris Floyd Whortonville, NC 1972 Cal-27 T/2

Chris, If you mean the bridge in Oriental, I made it through with about a foot to spare in my Cal 2-27. Klaus ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Floyd To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? Anyone know what the total height (clearance) is on a Cal-27 T/2? Preferably an exact measurement from a previous owner that ran into a bridge, for example?? :-) I've loaded my T/2 down with lots of stuff, so I'm maybe a few inches lower... Our marina owner is booting most of us out since he's converting the area into a condo / marina thing.... yuck... Anyway, I'm looking at another slip - but I need to have bridge clearance of 45' ... which I suspect is not a problem, but I can't remember the whole Cal-27 "Tall Mast" versus "Shorter Mast" thing... I'll take any info I can get on this - I prefer not to find out I'm too tall 'the hard way'. ;-) Chris Floyd Whortonville, NC 1972 Cal-27 T/2

To all of you in Santa Barbra we would like to know on Thursday whrer to meet . We plan to take off on Friday Look foward to seeing our founders Dave Paulson Allergia Cal 334 Chanel Islands ----- Original Message ----- From: ComfortVoice To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? Chris, If you mean the bridge in Oriental, I made it through with about a foot to spare in my Cal 2-27. Klaus ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Floyd To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? Anyone know what the total height (clearance) is on a Cal-27 T/2? Preferably an exact measurement from a previous owner that ran into a bridge, for example?? :-) I've loaded my T/2 down with lots of stuff, so I'm maybe a few inches lower... Our marina owner is booting most of us out since he's converting the area into a condo / marina thing.... yuck... Anyway, I'm looking at another slip - but I need to have bridge clearance of 45' ... which I suspect is not a problem, but I can't remember the whole Cal-27 "Tall Mast" versus "Shorter Mast" thing... I'll take any info I can get on this - I prefer not to find out I'm too tall 'the hard way'. ;-) Chris Floyd Whortonville, NC 1972 Cal-27 T/2

Klaus, Yes, the Oriental bridge is the exact one I'm concerned about. :-) I think to ease my mind, I'll just run a tape measure up the main halyard and drop the other end down through the porthole and line it up with the waterline in the gallery sink drainhose... add a few feet for error, and wind tides, etc...

Chris wrote: > > > > I know that when we're going under bridges that are hundreds of feet > high in the Chesapeake - it always *looks* like we just graze under the > bridge in my folks Catalina 470 (clearance ~70ft). That lack of > reference / perspective is just downright unnerving. > > Chris Floyd > One of the captains on our schooner, and a guy who taught math in his career, admitted that he always gets nervous going under the Mackinaw Bridge connecting Michigan's upper and lower peninsulas. Intellectually, you know that all the 1000 foot freighters make it and that we're far short of snagging, but the illusion is really powerful. Chris Campbell

Hi, there are some numbers for a CAL T/2 at Bacon Sails in Annapolis. http://www.baconsails.com/database/boatspec.php I've never seen a measurement for mast pedestal to waterline. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:55 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? Klaus, Yes, the Oriental bridge is the exact one I'm concerned about. :-) I think to ease my mind, I'll just run a tape measure up the main halyard and drop the other end down through the porthole and line it up with the waterline in the gallery sink drainhose... add a few feet for error, and wind tides, etc...

Dave, Bill, Randy, Eric, Kirk and whoever I might have missed in the area..... We've had a little adversity up this way, but still going to make a wonderful Santa Cruz Island Trip this weekend. I've been watching the weather and as of a few minutes ago and it looks very promising for OUTSTANDING WEATHER throughout the weekend. Sabine's Cal 25 lost it's mooring and came ashore and our buddy Mel has not had time to get his 29 ready to go, so they've scratched. Chuck got tangled up in a dirt bike and lost, so he may or may not make it.... Kurt Ford and Per Curtiss are due in Santa Barbara around supper time Thursday Night and we plan on leaving for the Island Friday Morning. Dan Casey will bring his Cal 9.2R and our friends and crew-mates are bringing their Hans Cal-hristian 52 (free ice and hot showers... He he he) The Santa Barbara Fleet wants to head for Pelicans. Are you guys up to it? It's a little farther for you and a bit more on the wind, but I'm sure you know how nice it is once there. We will leave early Friday Morning. How about a head count? David Wilkie Owen Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com

Hi David, Footloose won't make this trip, but I'm looking forward to one later this year. I'm in the middle of relocating the power panel and that lead to seemingly infinite work. (Those interior battens look nice but it's an erector set when they come out.) At the moment she's a workshop. I am hoping to bring her to Santa Barbara this weekend for a stint so I can make greater headway. Ventura isn't all that far, but it rules out any mid-week efforts. And I owe my 10 year old son and his two best buddies a boat-sleep-over belated bday present. I'll give the list a heads-up if we're in SB. Maybe folks can stop by for an adult beverage. And I just took a look at your www site - nice work on Mariposa. Kirk -- Footloose Cal 34 dwowen wrote: > > > Dave, Bill, Randy, Eric, Kirk and whoever I might have missed in the > area..... > > We've had a little adversity up this way, but still going to make a > wonderful Santa Cruz Island Trip this weekend. > > I've been watching the weather and as of a few minutes ago and it looks very > promising for OUTSTANDING WEATHER throughout the weekend. > > Sabine's Cal 25 lost it's mooring and came ashore and our buddy Mel has not > had time to get his 29 ready to go, so they've scratched. Chuck got tangled > up in a dirt bike and lost, so he may or may not make it.... > > Kurt Ford and Per Curtiss are due in Santa Barbara around supper time > Thursday Night and we plan on leaving for the Island Friday Morning. Dan > Casey will bring his Cal 9.2R and our friends and crew-mates are bringing > their Hans Cal-hristian 52 (free ice and hot showers... He he he) > > The Santa Barbara Fleet wants to head for Pelicans. Are you guys up to it? > It's a little farther for you and a bit more on the wind, but I'm sure you > know how nice it is once there. > > We will leave early Friday Morning. > > How about a head count? > > > David Wilkie Owen > _________________ > Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" > Santa Barbara, CA > http://www.mariposasailing.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > -- Kirk Grier kg… [at] kirkgrier.com http://kirkgrier.com/

mine is 34'6" from th deck. There may have been a few tall rigs. mine is standard. you should make it. Low tide? hike out on the low side? Reggie >From: "Chris Floyd" <pa… [at] bellsouth.net> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? >Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:02:59 -0400 > >Anyone know what the total height (clearance) is on a Cal-27 T/2? >Preferably an exact measurement from a previous owner that ran into a >bridge, for example?? :-) > >I've loaded my T/2 down with lots of stuff, so I'm maybe a few inches >lower... Our marina owner is booting most of us out since he's converting >the area into a condo / marina thing.... yuck... > >Anyway, I'm looking at another slip - but I need to have bridge clearance >of 45' ... which I suspect is not a problem, but I can't remember the whole >Cal-27 "Tall Mast" versus "Shorter Mast" thing... > >I'll take any info I can get on this - I prefer not to find out I'm too >tall 'the hard way'. ;-) > >Chris Floyd >Whortonville, NC >1972 Cal-27 T/2 Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07

To Dave and all we will try to depart onFriday Am save us a spot and will try to contact you on the radio as we get close. Dave paulson Allergia Cal 334 Channel Islands ----- Original Message ----- From: dwowen To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:50 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] santa cruz get together Dave, Bill, Randy, Eric, Kirk and whoever I might have missed in the area..... We've had a little adversity up this way, but still going to make a wonderful Santa Cruz Island Trip this weekend. I've been watching the weather and as of a few minutes ago and it looks very promising for OUTSTANDING WEATHER throughout the weekend. Sabine's Cal 25 lost it's mooring and came ashore and our buddy Mel has not had time to get his 29 ready to go, so they've scratched. Chuck got tangled up in a dirt bike and lost, so he may or may not make it.... Kurt Ford and Per Curtiss are due in Santa Barbara around supper time Thursday Night and we plan on leaving for the Island Friday Morning. Dan Casey will bring his Cal 9.2R and our friends and crew-mates are bringing their Hans Cal-hristian 52 (free ice and hot showers... He he he) The Santa Barbara Fleet wants to head for Pelicans. Are you guys up to it? It's a little farther for you and a bit more on the wind, but I'm sure you know how nice it is once there. We will leave early Friday Morning. How about a head count? David Wilkie Owen _________________ Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com

Hi, Reg. Bacon has the regular stick at 35' and the tall stick at 37'. Add 4' to 4.5' for height of deck above the water, and throw in anything on top of the mast like wind stuff and antennas. Without a tall VHF antenna, 45' looks like a piece of cake. DON'T FORGET THE TIDE! Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:12 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? mine is 34'6" from th deck. There may have been a few tall rigs. mine is standard. you should make it. Low tide? hike out on the low side? Reggie >From: "Chris Floyd" <pa… [at] bellsouth.net> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? >Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:02:59 -0400 > >Anyone know what the total height (clearance) is on a Cal-27 T/2? >Preferably an exact measurement from a previous owner that ran into a >bridge, for example?? :-) > >I've loaded my T/2 down with lots of stuff, so I'm maybe a few inches >lower... Our marina owner is booting most of us out since he's converting >the area into a condo / marina thing.... yuck... > >Anyway, I'm looking at another slip - but I need to have bridge clearance >of 45' ... which I suspect is not a problem, but I can't remember the whole >Cal-27 "Tall Mast" versus "Shorter Mast" thing... > >I'll take any info I can get on this - I prefer not to find out I'm too >tall 'the hard way'. ;-) > >Chris Floyd >Whortonville, NC >1972 Cal-27 T/2 Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglin emarch07 Yahoo! Groups Links

Thanks all for the info. The lunar tide around Oriental, NC (Pamlico Sound / Neuse River) is a whopping 6 inches. The wind tide on the other hand can often be another story... regular wind tide: http://www.towndock.net/harborcam_anim.shtml extreme wind 'high-tide': http://www.towndock.net/harborcam_isabel.shtml :-) Sounds like I'll be ok.... Thx again. -Chris Floyd ----- Original Message ----- From: Husar, Charlie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? Hi, Reg. Bacon has the regular stick at 35' and the tall stick at 37'. Add 4' to 4.5' for height of deck above the water, and throw in anything on top of the mast like wind stuff and antennas. Without a tall VHF antenna, 45' looks like a piece of cake. DON'T FORGET THE TIDE! Cheers Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:12 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? mine is 34'6" from th deck. There may have been a few tall rigs. mine is standard. you should make it. Low tide? hike out on the low side? Reggie .

Thanks all for the info. The lunar tide around Oriental, NC (Pamlico Sound / Neuse River) is a whopping 6 inches. The wind tide on the other hand can often be another story... regular wind tide: http://www.towndock.net/harborcam_anim.shtml extreme wind 'high-tide': http://www.towndock.net/harborcam_isabel.shtml :-) Sounds like I'll be ok.... Thx again. -Chris Floyd ----- Original Message ----- From: Husar, Charlie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? Hi, Reg. Bacon has the regular stick at 35' and the tall stick at 37'. Add 4' to 4.5' for height of deck above the water, and throw in anything on top of the mast like wind stuff and antennas. Without a tall VHF antenna, 45' looks like a piece of cake. DON'T FORGET THE TIDE! Cheers Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:12 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? mine is 34'6" from th deck. There may have been a few tall rigs. mine is standard. you should make it. Low tide? hike out on the low side? Reggie .

Thanks all for the info. The lunar tide around Oriental, NC (Pamlico Sound / Neuse River) is a whopping 6 inches. The wind tide on the other hand can often be another story... regular wind tide: http://www.towndock.net/harborcam_anim.shtml extreme wind 'high-tide': http://www.towndock.net/harborcam_isabel.shtml :-) Sounds like I'll be ok.... Thx again. -Chris Floyd ----- Original Message ----- From: Husar, Charlie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? Hi, Reg. Bacon has the regular stick at 35' and the tall stick at 37'. Add 4' to 4.5' for height of deck above the water, and throw in anything on top of the mast like wind stuff and antennas. Without a tall VHF antenna, 45' looks like a piece of cake. DON'T FORGET THE TIDE! Cheers Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:12 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? mine is 34'6" from th deck. There may have been a few tall rigs. mine is standard. you should make it. Low tide? hike out on the low side? Reggie .

Thanks all for the info. The lunar tide around Oriental, NC (Pamlico Sound / Neuse River) is a whopping 6 inches. The wind tide on the other hand can often be another story... regular wind tide: http://www.towndock.net/harborcam_anim.shtml extreme wind 'high-tide': http://www.towndock.net/harborcam_isabel.shtml :-) Sounds like I'll be ok.... Thx again. -Chris Floyd ----- Original Message ----- From: Husar, Charlie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? Hi, Reg. Bacon has the regular stick at 35' and the tall stick at 37'. Add 4' to 4.5' for height of deck above the water, and throw in anything on top of the mast like wind stuff and antennas. Without a tall VHF antenna, 45' looks like a piece of cake. DON'T FORGET THE TIDE! Cheers Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:12 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Clearance for a Cal-27 T/2 ? mine is 34'6" from th deck. There may have been a few tall rigs. mine is standard. you should make it. Low tide? hike out on the low side? Reggie .

We'll do our best, Dave! Try us on channel 68. David Wilkie Owen Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paulson Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:32 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] santa cruz get together To Dave and all we will try to depart onFriday Am save us a spot and will try to contact you on the radio as we get close. Dave paulson Allergia Cal 334 Channel Islands ----- Original Message ----- From: dwowen <mailto:dw… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:50 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] santa cruz get together Dave, Bill, Randy, Eric, Kirk and whoever I might have missed in the area..... We've had a little adversity up this way, but still going to make a wonderful Santa Cruz Island Trip this weekend. I've been watching the weather and as of a few minutes ago and it looks very promising for OUTSTANDING WEATHER throughout the weekend. Sabine's Cal 25 lost it's mooring and came ashore and our buddy Mel has not had time to get his 29 ready to go, so they've scratched. Chuck got tangled up in a dirt bike and lost, so he may or may not make it.... Kurt Ford and Per Curtiss are due in Santa Barbara around supper time Thursday Night and we plan on leaving for the Island Friday Morning. Dan Casey will bring his Cal 9.2R and our friends and crew-mates are bringing their Hans Cal-hristian 52 (free ice and hot showers... He he he) The Santa Barbara Fleet wants to head for Pelicans. Are you guys up to it? It's a little farther for you and a bit more on the wind, but I'm sure you know how nice it is once there. We will leave early Friday Morning. How about a head count? David Wilkie Owen _________________ Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com <http://www.mariposasailing.com>