Faryman tranny bites dust - outboard time?

The long dreaded moment arrived at the end of our two week vacation. In the middle of Peavine Passage in the San Juan Islands the transmission on our 30 year old Faryman diesel died. Lots of excitement all around! The question is: which outboard engine to purchase to replace the diesel (the cost of installing a new inboard or rebuilding the inboard is too high - also I need to do something SOON to get the boat home from Anacortes where it was towed). Does anyone have any experience with installing an outboard on the transom of any of the Cal 27 models? What did you go with and how happy are you with it? Any information would be much appreciated! Nancy Lewis-Williams Windancer 2-27 Vashon Island, WA

Pop top 27 and T/2 are set up with outboard many times. The transom is partially cut out to accomodate access. There are several in our area. I believe they were originally sold with either inboard or outboard, your choice. I don't know of any 2-27 or 3-27 set up for outboard. Reggie >From: "wind76dancer" <jn… [at] juno.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Faryman tranny bites dust - outboard time? >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 02:14:42 -0000 > >The long dreaded moment arrived at the end of our two week vacation. >In the middle of Peavine Passage in the San Juan Islands the >transmission on our 30 year old Faryman diesel died. Lots of >excitement all around! >The question is: which outboard engine to purchase to replace the >diesel (the cost of installing a new inboard or rebuilding the inboard >is too high - also I need to do something SOON to get the boat home >from Anacortes where it was towed). Does anyone have any experience >with installing an outboard on the transom of any of the Cal 27 >models? What did you go with and how happy are you with it? Any >information would be much appreciated! >Nancy Lewis-Williams >Windancer 2-27 >Vashon Island, WA > > http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=hmtextlinkjuly07

I'm pulling my Farymann this coming weekend and will be parting it out. If you're interested in the tranny (or anything else) let me know. John Caldwell --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "wind76dancer" <jnnwill2@...> wrote: > > The long dreaded moment arrived at the end of our two week vacation. > In the middle of Peavine Passage in the San Juan Islands the > transmission on our 30 year old Faryman diesel died. Lots of > excitement all around! > The question is: which outboard engine to purchase to replace the > diesel (the cost of installing a new inboard or rebuilding the inboard > is too high - also I need to do something SOON to get the boat home > from Anacortes where it was towed). Does anyone have any experience > with installing an outboard on the transom of any of the Cal 27 > models? What did you go with and how happy are you with it? Any > information would be much appreciated! > Nancy Lewis-Williams > Windancer 2-27 > Vashon Island, WA >

John, When I purchased Magic (1979, 2-27, Hull #627), the Universal 5411 was dead. The previous owner installed a 9.9 4-stroke Mercury on the transom. I chose to replace the 5411 with a Beta Marine BZ482 diesel.... about $6K in 2004. I installed the new diesel myself with Magic in the water and very pleased with my choice. John Caldwell <ja… [at] vel.net> wrote: I'm pulling my Farymann this coming weekend and will be parting it out. If you're interested in the tranny (or anything else) let me know. John Caldwell Regards, Michael Duvall s/v Magic, Cal 2-27 Pompano Beach, FL --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more.

The 2-27 was offered with an outboard from the factory, A-4 and Diesel were optional. There is an outboard model in Buffalo. The outboard obviously works but I would want an electric start because it's a long way down to the rope start. I think the boat in Buffalo has a tilt up bracket. There must be some additional reinforcement in the transom where it bolts through. If Honda makes an electric start in the 10 HP range it would be a place to start. I used to have a 15 HP Evinrude on a CAL25 that was overkill and a 7.5 hp Honda kept up nicely with MUCH better reverse. BTW if my inboard ever fails I'm getting a new inboard! Good Luck John Boyce Cal 2-27 #650 _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wind76dancer Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 9:15 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Faryman tranny bites dust - outboard time? The long dreaded moment arrived at the end of our two week vacation. In the middle of Peavine Passage in the San Juan Islands the transmission on our 30 year old Faryman diesel died. Lots of excitement all around! The question is: which outboard engine to purchase to replace the diesel (the cost of installing a new inboard or rebuilding the inboard is too high - also I need to do something SOON to get the boat home from Anacortes where it was towed). Does anyone have any experience with installing an outboard on the transom of any of the Cal 27 models? What did you go with and how happy are you with it? Any information would be much appreciated! Nancy Lewis-Williams Windancer 2-27 Vashon Island, WA

If you go the outboard route I think 6 hp is adequate, my 4 hp Suzuki on my Cal 24 works fine as long as the sea is reasonably calm. I have one of those scissor style brackets, really worn out tho. You might be able to cut out your transom for it, I've seen it done to a Cal 28, and there is even a Cal 29 version with an outboard. Expect to suffer with prop coming out in rough seas, but then, it's time to sail! If you have to motor a lot in rough water inboard is way to go. I know 9 horse outboards come with electric start, I don't know about smaller units. Personally I hate having excess weight on the transom, it makes the boat hobby horse, big difference when I race with the motor down below, the boat stays level and the sails stay in trim moe bettah. There is a T-2 (27 Cal IOR) parked next to mine with a five horse Nissan. Or, you could always learn to scull like a certain famous sailing couple...with unlimited time to get from port to port. Those Farrymans are one cylinder engines? They make a pleasant chugging sound? You can pretend your a famous Greek fisherman, eh ? Jerry Michael D <md… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: John, When I purchased Magic (1979, 2-27, Hull #627), the Universal 5411 was dead. The previous owner installed a 9.9 4-stroke Mercury on the transom. I chose to replace the 5411 with a Beta Marine BZ482 diesel.... about $6K in 2004. I installed the new diesel myself with Magic in the water and very pleased with my choice. John Caldwell <ja… [at] vel.net> wrote: I'm pulling my Farymann this coming weekend and will be parting it out. If you're interested in the tranny (or anything else) let me know. John Caldwell Regards, Michael Duvall s/v Magic, Cal 2-27 Pompano Beach, FL --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more.

Thanks to everyone for all the information! It is especially interesting to learn that the boat was offered with an outboard from the factory. We are leaning strongly towards putting a Honda 9.9 electric start on the transom with an extra beefy bracket and reinforcing the transom. Then we can get the boat home and deal with replacing/repairing the inboard in the future on our own schedule.... we were REALLY happy with how well the 2 hp 4 stroke Honda on our dinghy pushed Windancer out of the 2 knot+ current that was trying to pile us on the rocks when the transmission failed! Nancy Lewis-Williams Windancer Cal 2-27 --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "John Boyce" <jecyob@...> wrote: > > The 2-27 was offered with an outboard from the factory, A-4 and Diesel were > optional. There is an outboard model in Buffalo. The outboard obviously > works but I would want an electric start because it's a long way down to the > rope start. I think the boat in Buffalo has a tilt up bracket. There must > be some additional reinforcement in the transom where it bolts through. If > Honda makes an electric start in the 10 HP range it would be a place to > start. I used to have a 15 HP Evinrude on a CAL25 that was overkill and a > 7.5 hp Honda kept up nicely with MUCH better reverse. > > BTW if my inboard ever fails I'm getting a new inboard! > > Good Luck > > John Boyce > Cal 2-27 #650 > > _____ > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of wind76dancer > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 9:15 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Faryman tranny bites dust - outboard time? > > > > The long dreaded moment arrived at the end of our two week vacation. > In the middle of Peavine Passage in the San Juan Islands the > transmission on our 30 year old Faryman diesel died. Lots of > excitement all around! > The question is: which outboard engine to purchase to replace the > diesel (the cost of installing a new inboard or rebuilding the inboard > is too high - also I need to do something SOON to get the boat home > from Anacortes where it was towed). Does anyone have any experience > with installing an outboard on the transom of any of the Cal 27 > models? What did you go with and how happy are you with it? Any > information would be much appreciated! > Nancy Lewis-Williams > Windancer 2-27 > Vashon Island, WA >

Beta Marine has a direct replacement engine for the old Farymann A30M. Please contact me off list for details. Je… [at] mindspring.com Joe DeMers Sound Marine Diesel LLC www.soundmarinediesel.com From: "wind76dancer" <jn… [at] juno.com> To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:04 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Faryman tranny bites dust - outboard time? > Thanks to everyone for all the information! It is especially > interesting to learn that the boat was offered with an outboard from > the factory. We are leaning strongly towards putting a Honda 9.9 > electric start on the transom with an extra beefy bracket and > reinforcing the transom. Then we can get the boat home and deal with > replacing/repairing the inboard in the future on our own schedule.... > we were REALLY happy with how well the 2 hp 4 stroke Honda on our > dinghy pushed Windancer out of the 2 knot+ current that was trying to > pile us on the rocks when the transmission failed! > Nancy Lewis-Williams > Windancer Cal 2-27 > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "John Boyce" <jecyob@...> wrote: >> >> The 2-27 was offered with an outboard from the factory, A-4 and > Diesel were >> optional. There is an outboard model in Buffalo. The outboard > obviously >> works but I would want an electric start because it's a long way > down to the >> rope start. I think the boat in Buffalo has a tilt up bracket. > There must >> be some additional reinforcement in the transom where it bolts > through. If >> Honda makes an electric start in the 10 HP range it would be a > place to >> start. I used to have a 15 HP Evinrude on a CAL25 that was > overkill and a >> 7.5 hp Honda kept up nicely with MUCH better reverse. >> >> BTW if my inboard ever fails I'm getting a new inboard! >> >> Good Luck >> >> John Boyce >> Cal 2-27 #650 >> >> _____ >> >> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf >> Of wind76dancer >> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 9:15 PM >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Faryman tranny bites dust - outboard time? >> >> >> >> The long dreaded moment arrived at the end of our two week > vacation. >> In the middle of Peavine Passage in the San Juan Islands the >> transmission on our 30 year old Faryman diesel died. Lots of >> excitement all around! >> The question is: which outboard engine to purchase to replace the >> diesel (the cost of installing a new inboard or rebuilding the > inboard >> is too high - also I need to do something SOON to get the boat home >> from Anacortes where it was towed). Does anyone have any experience >> with installing an outboard on the transom of any of the Cal 27 >> models? What did you go with and how happy are you with it? Any >> information would be much appreciated! >> Nancy Lewis-Williams >> Windancer 2-27 >> Vashon Island, WA >> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/2007 > 5:02 PM > >