Cal-40 design.....

are there any architect's (or sailors) here who can point me too the written definitive rules that put The Cal-40 out of the competitive business??? no phone numbers please; fiver doesn't do well on phone's... :)(: fiver, Master of The "BB-54" one of the famous Cal-28 flush-decks out of Sierra-5, Papa Hotel (in days gone by) now hove-too, not 10' south of my front porch; in my Sister Karen's one acre back yard....... (built like a Battleship; sails like a Sub......) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Oh my friend the flat top sailor, what is your point? The Cal 40 be one fast boat, as is my Cal 24 if I ever fix it up right. You should see how fast my boat is in twenty four knots of wind on a beam or abaft of beam reach! She'll plane! Maybe your Cal 28 can too? The whole point of PHRF is to make boats equally competitive. Of course, it doesn't but it is better than simple first to finish. fi… [at] aol.com wrote: are there any architect's (or sailors) here who can point me too the written definitive rules that put The Cal-40 out of the competitive business??? no phone numbers please; fiver doesn't do well on phone's... :)(: fiver, Master of The "BB-54" one of the famous Cal-28 flush-decks out of Sierra-5, Papa Hotel (in days gone by) now hove-too, not 10' south of my front porch; in my Sister Karen's one acre back yard....... (built like a Battleship; sails like a Sub......) --------------------------------- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.

because i'm a "hydrodynamicsat" at heart. and because the 28 flush-deck was His test-platform. i just look at the evolution of The Mans thought process as it carried through each different hull-form. and i have the "First One"! accentual, i have a blank slate on witch to carry forward all of the best in that hull-form too it's logical conclusion. if for no other reason than too see just how good i am at this guessing game. and i have the benefit of something that even today is secret. i have seen most every high-speed under-sea craft ever made; both red & blue. many of them close-up and personal. and i understand many of the reasons they did or didn't work. a test tank can only tell you the absolutes about a hull-form, and that is only when comparing one tank-tested model with another. and then you end up those "use-for-a-year" plastic wonder's that can't be sailed balls-to-the-wall with every rag on the spar. have you ever watched the way the stern over-hang of the Cal-40 will grab the water at speed? ever wonder how that effect's her; good, bad.....? ever notice that the 28 looks like maybe she was cut-off about 2 or 3 foot short of where she should be? what do you think that would do to her speed given what we all know about the 40? i have watched the whales go deep out in Maui Sound for days on end. i have sat for hour after hour watching the dolphin swim the thin sheet of water that runs-up the big bulbous nose of a boat at 10 knots. i can stand for hour after hour in amassment looking at King Samoan through the glass window climbing the fish-ladder's at numerous Damn's around the NorthWest. these beautiful animals, along with the many different sorts of sail, tug, and military vessel's i have been on or in have given me great understanding, and feeling, of the forces at work on a hull. and i see this interaction as a beautifully intricate fluid dance of balance and symmetry (preferably), asymmetry if someone goofed up. i know that this was all too long, but you asked..... ***************************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Gerald Sobel <sobel_solar@...> wrote: > > Oh my friend the flat top sailor, what is your point? The Cal 40 be one fast boat, as is my Cal 24 if I ever fix it up right. You should see how fast my boat is in twenty four knots of wind on a beam or abaft of beam reach! She'll plane! Maybe your Cal 28 can too? > > > The whole point of PHRF is to make boats equally competitive. Of course, it doesn't but it is better than simple first to finish. > > fiverhrairoo@... wrote: are there any architect's (or sailors) here who can point me too the written definitive rules that put The Cal-40 out of the competitive business??? > > no phone numbers please; > fiver doesn't do well on phone's... :)(: > fiver, > Master of The "BB-54" > one of the famous Cal-28 flush-decks > out of Sierra-5, Papa Hotel (in days gone by) > now hove-too, not 10' south of my front porch; > in my Sister Karen's one acre back yard....... > > (built like a Battleship; sails like a Sub......) > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. >

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, fiverhrairoo@... wrote: > > are there any architect's (or sailors) here who can point me too the written > definitive rules that put The Cal-40 out of the competitive business??? > > no phone numbers please; > fiver doesn't do well on phone's... :)(: The IOR rule changed everything. Olin Syephens biography writes about it and how he participated in the rule design, then was bitterly disappointed at the results, which were frail, less stabel boats that were increasingly unstaisfactory for anything but racing. CCA rewarded some features that made good cruisers. I have a chapter in my history of the Cal 40. One of these days I'll get it on-line. MIke Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > fiver, > Master of The "BB-54" > one of the famous Cal-28 flush-decks > out of Sierra-5, Papa Hotel (in days gone by) > now hove-too, not 10' south of my front porch; > in my Sister Karen's one acre back yard....... > > (built like a Battleship; sails like a Sub......) > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "mtkennedy1" <mtkennedy1@...> wrote: > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, fiverhrairoo@ wrote: > > > > are there any architect's (or sailors) here who can point me too the written > > definitive rules that put The Cal-40 out of the competitive business??? > > > > no phone numbers please; > > fiver doesn't do well on phone's... :)(: > > The IOR rule changed everything. Olin Syephens biography writes about it and how he > participated in the rule design, then was bitterly disappointed at the results, which were > frail, less stabel boats that were increasingly unstaisfactory for anything but racing. CCA > rewarded some features that made good cruisers. I have a chapter in my history of the Cal > 40. One of these days I'll get it on-line. If I get it on-line I'll do a better job of editing. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > Mike Kennedy > Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > > > > > fiver, > > Master of The "BB-54" > > one of the famous Cal-28 flush-decks > > out of Sierra-5, Papa Hotel (in days gone by) > > now hove-too, not 10' south of my front porch; > > in my Sister Karen's one acre back yard....... > > > > (built like a Battleship; sails like a Sub......) > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > >

I did some Googling and found that the International Technical Committee of the Offshore Racing Council administered the IOR (International Offshore Rule), but couldn't find anything about it on the ORC website. http://www.orc.org/ --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, fiverhrairoo@... wrote: > > point me too the written definitive rules that put > The Cal-40 out of the competitive business???