"A Public Apologetic Message......"

"A Public Apologetic Message......" to Mr. Chris Campbell; and to All Other Members of This Fine Group....... i (fiver) wish to most contritely apologize; first for my most Disrespectful outburst aimed at a Fellow Wooden Ship-Builder. one of a mostly dying breed of Men who's wisdom was for the greatest part, in doing. and not writing books of how they did it. such books having to come after the fact, and written by people with great skill in the pen, but little in wood. i said what i did before everyone here, and therefor i must apologize for my arrogance and lack of respect before the very same people, Sir. please forgive me for my stupidly, Mr. Campbell. Anyone who is evolved in building a wooden planked vessel such as You. has the privilege in my book,of naming any of the numerous timber's that such ships are made of, anything He choose's. this as i know the time and dedication that such work evolves. and each shipbuilding region had their own ways and name's any way. something i bet most books never say. i am truly sorry Sir....... as for The rest of This Group; in all that fiver post's here, i never mean to be a pest. nor do i wish to cause dissension/discord within the group. but i owe All of You a Heart Felt Apology for having done just that. i am Sorry for This. my only reason for being a member of your group is that i have an old Cal-boat. one that i dream of being ship-shape & skookum one day. and as much as i think i live a quite life; other have said i have been very adventuresome and well experienced. i don't know, maybe it's depression that makes my life look so foggy and mundane. but i went out and got something at the store to augment the *med's* today, so maybe i will be right as rain soon (one pound of M&M's)..... anyway, just wanted everyone to hear this. and i shut-up now. fiver....... ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I'll be more angry if you stop sending us your colorful comments... So be yourself, and have some fun! Cheers dEmO From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fi… [at] aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 7:26 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] "A Public Apologetic Message......" "A Public Apologetic Message......" to Mr. Chris Campbell; and to All Other Members of This Fine Group....... i (fiver) wish to most contritely apologize; first for my most Disrespectful outburst aimed at a Fellow Wooden Ship-Builder. one of a mostly dying breed of Men who's wisdom was for the greatest part, in doing. and not writing books of how they did it. such books having to come after the fact, and written by people with great skill in the pen, but little in wood. i said what i did before everyone here, and therefor i must apologize for my arrogance and lack of respect before the very same people, Sir. please forgive me for my stupidly, Mr. Campbell. Anyone who is evolved in building a wooden planked vessel such as You. has the privilege in my book,of naming any of the numerous timber's that such ships are made of, anything He choose's. this as i know the time and dedication that such work evolves. and each shipbuilding region had their own ways and name's any way. something i bet most books never say. i am truly sorry Sir....... as for The rest of This Group; in all that fiver post's here, i never mean to be a pest. nor do i wish to cause dissension/discord within the group. but i owe All of You a Heart Felt Apology for having done just that. i am Sorry for This. my only reason for being a member of your group is that i have an old Cal-boat. one that i dream of being ship-shape & skookum one day. and as much as i think i live a quite life; other have said i have been very adventuresome and well experienced. i don't know, maybe it's depression that makes my life look so foggy and mundane. but i went out and got something at the store to augment the *med's* today, so maybe i will be right as rain soon (one pound of M&M's)..... anyway, just wanted everyone to hear this. and i shut-up now. fiver....... Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com <http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982> .

Ditto. Harleigh Ewell Cal 31 "Kat's Cradle" From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ti… [at] ch2m.com Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:34 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] "A Public Apologetic Message......"(fiver) I'll be more angry if you stop sending us your colorful comments... So be yourself, and have some fun! Cheers dEmO _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fi… [at] aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 7:26 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] "A Public Apologetic Message......" "A Public Apologetic Message......" to Mr. Chris Campbell; and to All Other Members of This Fine Group....... i (fiver) wish to most contritely apologize; first for my most Disrespectful outburst aimed at a Fellow Wooden Ship-Builder. one of a mostly dying breed of Men who's wisdom was for the greatest part, in doing. and not writing books of how they did it. such books having to come after the fact, and written by people with great skill in the pen, but little in wood. i said what i did before everyone here, and therefor i must apologize for my arrogance and lack of respect before the very same people, Sir. please forgive me for my stupidly, Mr. Campbell. Anyone who is evolved in building a wooden planked vessel such as You. has the privilege in my book,of naming any of the numerous timber's that such ships are made of, anything He choose's. this as i know the time and dedication that such work evolves. and each shipbuilding region had their own ways and name's any way. something i bet most books never say. i am truly sorry Sir....... as for The rest of This Group; in all that fiver post's here, i never mean to be a pest. nor do i wish to cause dissension/discord within the group. but i owe All of You a Heart Felt Apology for having done just that. i am Sorry for This. my only reason for being a member of your group is that i have an old Cal-boat. one that i dream of being ship-shape & skookum one day. and as much as i think i live a quite life; other have said i have been very adventuresome and well experienced. i don't know, maybe it's depression that makes my life look so foggy and mundane. but i went out and got something at the store to augment the *med's* today, so maybe i will be right as rain soon (one pound of M&M's)..... anyway, just wanted everyone to hear this. and i shut-up now. fiver....... _____ Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com <http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982> .

Fiver, it's okay! :-) We all have bad days. My one driver today is having one... he drove 3 hours to truck then got lost and was 4 hours late back to Post Office :-0 Just got back to yard NOW... at 21:35.... he should have been back NLT 17:00 Anyway, he's facing a 3 hour + ride home (and it's thunderstorming here) so I go thim a motel room there. Ack, you can just feel the burn in his voice... But I digress.... We're cool! :-) Now, let's find you that Mack!! Marsh S/V Gaia fi… [at] aol.com wrote: > > "A Public Apologetic Message......" > > as for The rest of This Group; > in all that fiver post's here, i never mean to be a pest. nor > do i wish to cause dissension/discord within the group. but i owe All > of You a Heart Felt Apology for having done just that. i am Sorry for > This. > my only reason for being a member of your group is that i have > an old Cal-boat. one that i dream of being ship-shape & skookum one > day. and as much as i think i live a quite life; other have said i > have been very adventuresome and well experienced. i don't know, maybe > it's depression that makes my life look so foggy and mundane. but i > went out and got something at the store to augment the *med's* today, > so maybe i will be right as rain soon (one pound of M&M's)..... > > anyway, just wanted everyone to hear this. and i shut-up now. > fiver....... > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com > <http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982>. > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <coming soon to a website near YOU!> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

that too ti… [at] ch2m.com wrote: > I'll be more angry if you stop sending us your colorful comments... > > So be yourself, and have some fun! > > Cheers > > dEmO > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of fi… [at] aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 7:26 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] "A Public Apologetic Message......" > > "A Public Apologetic Message......" > > to Mr. Chris Campbell; > and to All Other Members of This Fine Group....... > > i (fiver) wish to most contritely apologize; first for my > most Disrespectful outburst aimed at a Fellow Wooden Ship-Builder. one > of a mostly dying breed of Men who's wisdom was for the greatest part, > in doing. and not writing books of how they did it. such books having > to come after the fact, and written by people with great skill in the > pen, but little in wood. > i said what i did before everyone here, and therefor i must > apologize for my arrogance and lack of respect before the very same > people, Sir. please forgive me for my stupidly, Mr. Campbell. Anyone > who is evolved in building a wooden planked vessel such as You. has > the privilege in my book,of naming any of the numerous timber's that > such ships are made of, anything He choose's. this as i know the time > and dedication that such work evolves. and each shipbuilding region > had their own ways and name's any way. something i bet most books > never say. i am truly sorry Sir....... > > as for The rest of This Group; > in all that fiver post's here, i never mean to be a pest. nor > do i wish to cause dissension/discord within the group. but i owe All > of You a Heart Felt Apology for having done just that. i am Sorry for > This. > my only reason for being a member of your group is that i have > an old Cal-boat. one that i dream of being ship-shape & skookum one > day. and as much as i think i live a quite life; other have said i > have been very adventuresome and well experienced. i don't know, maybe > it's depression that makes my life look so foggy and mundane. but i > went out and got something at the store to augment the *med's* today, > so maybe i will be right as rain soon (one pound of M&M's)..... > > anyway, just wanted everyone to hear this. and i shut-up now. > fiver....... > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com > <http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982>. > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <coming soon to a website near YOU!> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

Fiver, please knock off the maudlin crap and keep doing what you're doing. I appreciate the range of comments you make, and, of course, you'll get my 2 cents if we disagree. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fi… [at] aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:26 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] "A Public Apologetic Message......" "A Public Apologetic Message......" to Mr. Chris Campbell; and to All Other Members of This Fine Group....... i (fiver) wish to most contritely apologize; first for my most Disrespectful outburst aimed at a Fellow Wooden Ship-Builder. one of a mostly dying breed of Men who's wisdom was for the greatest part, in doing. and not writing books of how they did it. such books having to come after the fact, and written by people with great skill in the pen, but little in wood. i said what i did before everyone here, and therefor i must apologize for my arrogance and lack of respect before the very same people, Sir. please forgive me for my stupidly, Mr. Campbell. Anyone who is evolved in building a wooden planked vessel such as You. has the privilege in my book,of naming any of the numerous timber's that such ships are made of, anything He choose's. this as i know the time and dedication that such work evolves. and each shipbuilding region had their own ways and name's any way. something i bet most books never say. i am truly sorry Sir....... as for The rest of This Group; in all that fiver post's here, i never mean to be a pest. nor do i wish to cause dissension/discord within the group. but i owe All of You a Heart Felt Apology for having done just that. i am Sorry for This. my only reason for being a member of your group is that i have an old Cal-boat. one that i dream of being ship-shape & skookum one day. and as much as i think i live a quite life; other have said i have been very adventuresome and well experienced. i don't know, maybe it's depression that makes my life look so foggy and mundane. but i went out and got something at the store to augment the *med's* today, so maybe i will be right as rain soon (one pound of M&M's)..... anyway, just wanted everyone to hear this. and i shut-up now. fiver....... Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com <http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982> .

fi… [at] aol.com wrote: > > "A Public Apologetic Message......" > > to Mr. Chris Campbell; > and to All Other Members of This Fine Group....... > > i (fiver) wish to most contritely apologize; first for my > most Disrespectful outburst aimed at a Fellow Wooden Ship-Builder. one > of a mostly dying breed of Men who's wisdom was for the greatest part, > in doing. and not writing books of how they did it. such books having > to come after the fact, and written by people with great skill in the > pen, but little in wood. > > The lesson for all of us, and I've learned it the hard way, is to always be a bit tentative about things you think you know. The best boatbuilder I know never says "you're doing it all wrong." He says "this is how I like to do it...," which leaves some room for disagreement or differing views if that's appropriate. The only thing I'm really fanatical about is the practice of using 3M 5200 as a cure-all for sloppy woodworking or poor engineering. People guilty of this sin should be consigned directly to boatbuilding hell. Or so I have thought when trying to undo things assembled in that manner. Chris Campbell

From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:02 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] "A Public Apologetic Message......" fiverhrairoo@ <mailto:fi… [at] aol.com> aol.com wrote: "A Public Apologetic Message......" to Mr. Chris Campbell; and to All Other Members of This Fine Group....... i (fiver) wish to most contritely apologize; first for my most Disrespectful outburst aimed at a Fellow Wooden Ship-Builder. one of a mostly dying breed of Men who's wisdom was for the greatest part, in doing. and not writing books of how they did it. such books having to come after the fact, and written by people with great skill in the pen, but little in wood. The lesson for all of us, and I've learned it the hard way, is to always be a bit tentative about things you think you know. The best boatbuilder I know never says "you're doing it all wrong." He says "this is how I like to do it...," which leaves some room for disagreement or differing views if that's appropriate. The only thing I'm really fanatical about is the practice of using 3M 5200 as a cure-all for sloppy woodworking or poor engineering. People guilty of this sin should be consigned directly to boatbuilding hell. Or so I have thought when trying to undo things assembled in that manner. Chris Campbell [Downing, Thomas] Abosulutely! Use duct tape. :-) DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.