RE: [Cal_Boats] Steal This Boat: Cal 22 in NY Cheap, Exc Shape

Jeez, that's odd. I never had that problem before. Maybe everyone I know already has a Kodak account. Anyway, as far as I can tell, it *looks* like if I send you an "invitation" I can specify that you don't have to sign in. So if anyone wants to do that, email me and I will send one. Otherwise, it takes literally about one minute to create an account (doesn't cost anything and you don't have to give personal info), and you can look at the photos. Or, email me and I can email photos to you. Sorry. I thought this was the easy way to do it. Mark -- J. Mark Lane Koo Larrabee Lau-Kee & Lane, LLP 106 Corporate Park Dr., Suite 110 White Plains, New York 10604 ph (914) 251-0001, Ext. 104 fx (914) 251-0969 web: www.kllklaw.com email: jm… [at] kllklaw.com -------------- Original message from "Downing, Thomas" <Th… [at] ipc.com>: -------------- Site asks for a email/password. How about a site that doesn't? Couple of people here at work toying with idea of getting a small boat if price is right. thomas dot downingt att ipc dot com td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of jm… [at] att.net Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Steal This Boat: Cal 22 in NY Cheap, Exc Shape Well, here's an opportunity. Boat is in Mamaroneck, NY. Available cheap if purchased now. I've had this boat for a couple of years (been on this list from the beginning mostly lurking). It's in great condition. Looks practically new. Much new rigging and other stuff. Keel removed and reseated last year, and the bilge stays bone dry. Great mainsail. 120 genoa. Brand new Doyle 110. I have a Merc 3.5 outboard on it that is fine for in/out of harbor etc. Plenty of gear (radio etc). This is a ready-to-go, fine sailing, very pretty, very nice boat. I smashed my hand (it is taking forever to type this), and am out of commission for the season. I was planning to get a bigger boat next year anyway (kids are bigger now, we're ready). So I am having the boat hauled. But before I incur hauling and storage fees, you can buy this boat CHEAP. I paid $6700 for it in Fall 2005, and I've put a couple grand in it. I figure if I wait til the Spring, I can probably get $6k for it easy. But I currently owe the yard $1k, and hauling, winterizing and storage will be another $2500 or so. So if I pay all that now, pay a broker in the Spring, and put up with all the hassle, I might clear a couple grand on the Spring sale. If I can clear a couple grand now, without going through that... well, that's just as good. So: buy this boat fast, and you can have it for $3000. That's right, three grand. The sails alone cost that much. But if I have to pay the hauling and storage, I may as well wait and try for the Spring. Email or let me know if you are interested. I would consider interesting trades (a Laser?, a Whaler?). I will be looking at 27-30 foot boats next year. Here are a few older photos of the boat (it looks nicer now): http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?&collid=500344561208.453954561208.1187372633291&page=1&sort_order=0&navfolderid=0&folderid=0&ownerid=0 I can email more photos later. Mark -- J. Mark Lane Koo Larrabee Lau-Kee & Lane, LLP 106 Corporate Park Dr., Suite 110 White Plains, New York 10604 ph (914) 251-0001, Ext. 104 fx (914) 251-0969 web: www.kllklaw.com email: jm… [at] kllklaw.com -------------- Original message from "slickbutfoxbuger" <fi… [at] aol.com>: -------------- don't think i didn't note that "note" of political correctness, just now..... and it's not that i give a diddle-squat one way or-da other most of the time......... :)(: but being a bit of a traditionalist, i just don't think that i could ever mosey up to a four-striper to hand Her the position report and say "Ma'am". if'in She's got the deck; it's "Sir"! just like a seaman is a seaman, and a fisherman is a fisherman. it's both respect and tradition. you don't see me trying to change it do you......... fiver ********************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Alfred Poor" <apoor@...> wrote: > > Whmccoy66 inquired about the Cal 3-30: > > > > "My biggest concerns about 3-30 are a) that it was IOR oriented and > > more racer/cruiser than the opposite (stock it seems like it didn't > gt; even have a bow roller or chain locker), inc. pinched bow and > > attendant death-roll proclivity." > > > > I'm not a fan of early IOR rule boats. I don't find the pinched ends and > broad beam to be particularly attractive, but even more so, I don't like > what they do to directional stability. I have not sailed extensively on one, > but my "book learning" on the subject is enough to keep them off my list. > Working hard to make the boat go where you want is fine when you're racing, > but for cruising, I want to be able to point and go without burning out the > helmsperson (or the autopilot). > > > > Alfred Poor > > 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod" > DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. 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I set up a gallery on the photos page for this list. See if this works: http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/photos/view/47be?b=3 Otherwise, I think if you click Photos below it's on the second page, titled Cal 22. Mark -- J. Mark Lane Koo Larrabee Lau-Kee & Lane, LLP 106 Corporate Park Dr., Suite 110 White Plains, New York 10604 ph (914) 251-0001, Ext. 104 fx (914) 251-0969 web: www.kllklaw.com email: jm… [at] kllklaw.com -------------- Original message from jm… [at] att.net: -------------- Jeez, that's odd. I never had that problem before. Maybe everyone I know already has a Kodak account. Anyway, as far as I can tell, it *looks* like if I send you an "invitation" I can specify that you don't have to sign in. So if anyone wants to do that, email me and I will send one. Otherwise, it takes literally about one minute to create an account (doesn't cost anything and you don't have to give personal info), and you can look at the photos. Or, email me and I can email photos to you. Sorry. I thought this was the easy way to do it. Mark -- J. Mark Lane Koo Larrabee Lau-Kee & Lane, LLP 106 Corporate Park Dr., Suite 110 White Plains, New York 10604 ph (914) 251-0001, Ext. 104 fx (914) 251-0969 web: www.kllklaw.com email: jm… [at] kllklaw.com -------------- Original message from "Downing, Thomas" <Th… [at] ipc.com>: -------------- Site asks for a email/password. How about a site that doesn't? Couple of people here at work toying with idea of getting a small boat if price is right. thomas dot downingt att ipc dot com td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of jm… [at] att.net Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Steal This Boat: Cal 22 in NY Cheap, Exc Shape Well, here's an opportunity. Boat is in Mamaroneck, NY. Available cheap if purchased now. I've had this boat for a couple of years (been on this list from the beginning mostly lurking). It's in great condition. Looks practically new. Much new rigging and other stuff. Keel removed and reseated last year, and the bilge stays bone dry. Great mainsail. 120 genoa. Brand new Doyle 110. I have a Merc 3.5 outboard on it that is fine for in/out of harbor etc. Plenty of gear (radio etc). This is a ready-to-go, fine sailing, very pretty, very nice boat. I smashed my hand (it is taking forever to type this), and am out of commission for the season. I was planning to get a bigger boat next year anyway (kids are bigger now, we're ready). So I am having the boat hauled. But before I incur hauling and storage fees, you can buy this boat CHEAP. I paid $6700 for it in Fall 2005, and I've put a couple grand in it. I figure if I wait til the Spring, I can probably get $6k for it easy. But I currently owe the yard $1k, and hauling, winterizing and storage will be another $2500 or so. So if I pay all that now, pay a broker in the Spring, and put up with all the hassle, I might clear a couple grand on the Spring sale. If I can clear a couple grand now, without going through that... well, that's just as good. So: buy this boat fast, and you can have it for $3000. That's right, three grand. The sails alone cost that much. But if I have to pay the hauling and storage, I may as well wait and try for the Spring. Email or let me know if you are interested. I would consider interesting trades (a Laser?, a Whaler?). I will be looking at 27-30 foot boats next year. Here are a few older photos of the boat (it looks nicer now): http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?&collid=500344561208.453954561208.1187372633291&page=1&sort_order=0&navfolderid=0&folderid=0&ownerid=0 I can email more photos later. Mark -- J. Mark Lane Koo Larrabee Lau-Kee & Lane, LLP 106 Corporate Park Dr., Suite 110 White Plains, New York 10604 ph (914) 251-0001, Ext. 104 fx (914) 251-0969 web: www.kllklaw.com email: jm… [at] kllklaw.com -------------- Original message from "slickbutfoxbuger" <fi… [at] aol.com>: -------------- don't think i didn't note that "note" of political correctness, just now..... and it's not that i give a diddle-squat one way or-da other most of the time......... :)(: but being a bit of a traditionalist, i just don't think that i could ever mosey up to a four-striper to hand Her the position report and say "Ma'am". if'in She's got the deck; it's "Sir"! just like a seaman is a seaman, and a fisherman is a fisherman. it's both respect and tradition. you don't see me trying to change it do you......... fiver ********************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Alfred Poor" <apoor@...> wrote: > > Whmccoy66 inquired about the Cal 3-30: > > > > "My biggest concerns about 3-30 are a) that it was IOR oriented and > > more racer/cruiser than the opposite (stock it seems like it didn't > g t; even have a bow roller or chain locker), inc. pinched bow and > > attendant death-roll proclivity." > > > > I'm not a fan of early IOR rule boats. I don't find the pinched ends and > broad beam to be particularly attractive, but even more so, I don't like > what they do to directional stability. I have not sailed extensively on one, > but my "book learning" on the subject is enough to keep them off my list. > Working hard to make the boat go where you want is fine when you're racing, > but for cruising, I want to be able to point and go without burning out the > helmsperson (or the autopilot). > > > > Alfred Poor > > 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod" > DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and in tercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

jm… [at] att.net wrote: > > I set up a gallery on the photos page for this list. See if this works: > > http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/photos/view/47be?b=3 > <http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/photos/view/47be?b=3> > > Otherwise, I think if you click Photos below it's on the second page, > titled Cal 22. > Ooohh, nice lookin' boat. Two feet longer than my Cal 20 and a lot more contemporary looking, with that pointy bow and such. How big a trip is it to get to Lake Champlain? I could mention it to my brother there.... Chris Campbell

I really don't know how big a trip it is to Lake Champlain. My guess is you'd pay a hauler a grand or so. I don't have a trailer. Sailing it there would likely be quite a project. -- J. Mark Lane Koo Larrabee Lau-Kee & Lane, LLP 106 Corporate Park Dr., Suite 110 White Plains, New York 10604 ph (914) 251-0001, Ext. 104 fx (914) 251-0969 web: www.kllklaw.com email: jm… [at] kllklaw.com -------------- Original message from Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com>: -------------- jm… [at] att.net wrote: I set up a gallery on the photos page for this list. See if this works: http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/photos/view/47be?b=3 Otherwise, I think if you click Photos below it's on the second page, titled Cal 22. Ooohh, nice lookin' boat. Two feet longer than my Cal 20 and a lot more contemporary looking, with that pointy bow and such. How big a trip is it to get to Lake Champlain? I could mention it to my brother there.... Chris Campbell

On August 17, 2007 04:26:13 pm jm… [at] att.net wrote: > I really don't know how big a trip it is to Lake Champlain. My guess is > you'd pay a hauler a grand or so. I don't have a trailer. Sailing it > there would likely be quite a project. Its about 200+ nautical miles up river and into canal system. /ch