SF PHRF Rating

Hi everyone. I have a 1971 Cal 27 PopTop. I am wondering what her PHRF rating is. I checked the YRA site, they say 198, but that seems a little low to me. I would think they would be in the low 200s. There are no PHRF certificates that I could find in the area. Any thoughts? Thanks Suzee

Hi suzee; I had a 73 cal 27 PT; I had a NorCal PHRF certificate last year for 186. That's for an outboard and with a kite, the inboard makes it 192 according to the YRA at http://www.yra.org/PHRF/ncphrf_base_rates.html. bw On 8/16/07, Susan Ingram <su… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi everyone. I have a 1971 Cal 27 PopTop. I am wondering what her PHRF > rating is. I checked the YRA site, they say 198, but that seems a > little low to me. I would think they would be in the low 200s. There > are no PHRF certificates that I could find in the area. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks > Suzee > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

Basically you have your boat measured... by YOU. Find the form, and then fill it out, inserting your sail sizes, dimensions. and send a few bucks to them for your rating. YRA- PHRF should have the form available. see this link: http://www.yra.org/PHRF/get_a_ncphrf_certificate.html dEmO From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan Ingram Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 10:20 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] SF PHRF Rating Hi everyone. I have a 1971 Cal 27 PopTop. I am wondering what her PHRF rating is. I checked the YRA site, they say 198, but that seems a little low to me. I would think they would be in the low 200s. There are no PHRF certificates that I could find in the area. Any thoughts? Thanks Suzee

Here is a link for some information and tools available on the net http://www.ussailing.org/phrf/ this is a good list for high -low- average of most boats http://www.ussailing.org/phrf/documents/ClassPerformanceHandicaps.pdf and the rig dimensions http://www.ussailing.org/phrf/documents/CriticaRigDimensionsforHandicapping. pdf enjoy, john From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan Ingram Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:20 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] [Cal_Boats] SF PHRF Rating Hi everyone. I have a 1971 Cal 27 PopTop. I am wondering what her PHRF rating is. I checked the YRA site, they say 198, but that seems a little low to me. I would think they would be in the low 200s. There are no PHRF certificates that I could find in the area. Any thoughts? Thanks Suzee

Hi Susie: I have a CAL 27 I race in San Diego. Try my website. As the moderator, I'll get a request and then approve it and you will have access to more info about the boat, it's configuration, specs, tuning, ratings and photos than you need. Quickly though...ratings in SF are lower than SD. 34.5 or 35 foot "I" measurement (mast height) is the standard. There is no tall rig anyway. I rate 186. No inboard. 155% genoa. My whisker pole is 1.4 x "J". The "J" is 12 feet, so the pole can be extended to 15' 8". 192 rating for inboard in SF. If you race against boats that use their spinakers, and they don't have a class specific for non-spin, then you gat a NSO. That's a non-spin offset. Mine is 22 sec.which you add to 186 for that race only. All sails sheet outside of the shrouds, except maybe a 100% jib. I have three sets of tracks for three different sails. If the wind is light you need the 155% and you will win. This boat is all about the headsail. The main does not drive the boat. You can beat the 135 rated boats if....your bottom, keel and rudder are faired, smooth and freshly painted (smooth), your sails are new and shape well, your crew, starts, race course strategy and tactics have fewer errors than your nearest competitor and you know and use the RRS. That's what it takes to win. In SF with the high winds, the 155 will probably be too large for most days. Need several sized headsails, a crew that change them while racing ie a dual groove luff foil (all sails must have a luff tape, no hanks). I use a tuff luff foil with a 155, 149, 130 and 120% headsails. I also have two spinakers with all the deck hardware and a spin pole. Yes...it takes money to win! (unfortunately) Good luck. ps: I buy on ebay Bill

-- > Suzee: Sorry forgot to include my website address. Here it is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elysium_/ >

Thanks! Ironically, there was another guy that races in my division last night that had the exact same info. He was explaining how the SF YRA rated his boat and the differences between the H/L/A ratings and his actual. There is a WEALTH of info on that site. Mucho Grasso! --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "john raxter" <jraxter@...> wrote: > > Here is a link for some information and tools available on the net > > > > http://www.ussailing.org/phrf/ > > > > this is a good list for high -low- average of most boats > > > > http://www.ussailing.org/phrf/documents/ClassPerformanceHandicaps.pdf > > > > and the rig dimensions > > > > http://www.ussailing.org/phrf/documents/CriticaRigDimensionsforHandic apping. > pdf > > > > enjoy, > > > > john > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of Susan Ingram > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:20 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [SPAM] [Cal_Boats] SF PHRF Rating > > > > Hi everyone. I have a 1971 Cal 27 PopTop. I am wondering what her PHRF > rating is. I checked the YRA site, they say 198, but that seems a > little low to me. I would think they would be in the low 200s. There > are no PHRF certificates that I could find in the area. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks > Suzee >