Struts

I am getting a vibration in forward gear. I have a folding prop and usally I get kelp or plastic bags wrapped around my prop. I dove the boat and my strut is loose. I can't find any cracks just movement. How do I tighten it up? Randy Cal 2-29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more.

Slip into your port or starboard lazarette (right or left handed?) and folding your legs just right you can slide down under the cockpit sole far enough to reach the nuts on the inside of the boat. A 3/8 drive ratchet should move side to side enough to work. The forward nuts will actually be in front of the bulkhead in the lazy, but there's a large enough "limber" for you to still reach them. You will need an assistant to hold a giant screwdriver on the outside of the boat, if it has the same style bronze machine screws that Mariposa had. This might be better done in the yard, where you can drop the strut, and re-bed it before you tighten it. Gives you a chance to inspect and probably replace the cutless bearing as well, but you definitely need to get that tightened or all hell could break (bad word) loose under power. David Wilkie Owen Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Alcorn Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:49 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Struts I am getting a vibration in forward gear. I have a folding prop and usally I get kelp or plastic bags wrapped around my prop. I dove the boat and my strut is loose. I can't find any cracks just movement. How do I tighten it up? Randy Cal 2-29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48253/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC> mail, news, photos more.

I am to late. I was able to squeeze down there and tighten everything. The vibration was still there. I jumped in the water and looked. The strut is in two pieces. Are these speacially made? Anybody have any idea where to start? Randy David W. Owen wrote: > Slip into your port or starboard lazarette (right or left handed?) and > folding your legs just right you can slide down under the cockpit sole far > enough to reach the nuts on the inside of the boat. A 3/8 drive ratchet > should move side to side enough to work. The forward nuts will actually be > in front of the bulkhead in the lazy, but there's a large enough "limber" > for you to still reach them. You will need an assistant to hold a giant > screwdriver on the outside of the boat, if it has the same style bronze > machine screws that Mariposa had. > This might be better done in the yard, where you can drop the strut, and > re-bed it before you tighten it. Gives you a chance to inspect and probably > replace the cutless bearing as well, but you definitely need to get that > tightened or all hell could break (bad word) loose under power. > David Wilkie Owen > ____________ _____ > Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" > Santa Barbara, CA > http://www.mariposa sailing.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com ] On Behalf > Of Randy Alcorn > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:49 PM > To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Struts > I am getting a vibration in forward gear. I have a folding prop and usally I > get kelp or plastic bags wrapped around my prop. I dove the boat and my > strut is loose. I can't find any cracks just movement. > How do I tighten it up? > Randy > Cal 2-29 > Out Patient > Channel Islands Ca > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: > < http://us.rd. yahoo.com/ evt=48253/ *http://mobile. yahoo.com/ go?refer= 1GNXIC > > mail, news, photos more. > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz

Randy a few months past there was a listing for a company in the Seattle aera or I know of a great welder in Sun Valley he does most of the race car heads and I know it would be done correct Dave Paulson ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Alcorn To: dw… [at] cox.net Cc: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Struts I am to late. I was able to squeeze down there and tighten everything. The vibration was still there. I jumped in the water and looked. The strut is in two pieces. Are these speacially made? Anybody have any idea where to start? Randy David W. Owen wrote: > Slip into your port or starboard lazarette (right or left handed?) and > folding your legs just right you can slide down under the cockpit sole far > enough to reach the nuts on the inside of the boat. A 3/8 drive ratchet > should move side to side enough to work. The forward nuts will actually be > in front of the bulkhead in the lazy, but there's a large enough "limber" > for you to still reach them. You will need an assistant to hold a giant > screwdriver on the outside of the boat, if it has the same style bronze > machine screws that Mariposa had. > This might be better done in the yard, where you can drop the strut, and > re-bed it before you tighten it. Gives you a chance to inspect and probably > replace the cutless bearing as well, but you definitely need to get that > tightened or all hell could break (bad word) loose under power. > David Wilkie Owen > ____________ _____ > Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" > Santa Barbara, CA > http://www.mariposa sailing.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com ] On Behalf > Of Randy Alcorn > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:49 PM > To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Struts > I am getting a vibration in forward gear. I have a folding prop and usally I > get kelp or plastic bags wrapped around my prop. I dove the boat and my > strut is loose. I can't find any cracks just movement. > How do I tighten it up? > Randy > Cal 2-29 > Out Patient > Channel Islands Ca > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: > < http://us.rd. yahoo.com/ evt=48253/ *http://mobile. yahoo.com/ go?refer= 1GNXIC > > mail, news, photos more. > __________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz

the problem with welding the broken strut is that they tend to break from stress cracks, possibly as a result of becoming brittle over time. You'll probably note when looking at the break that there is a small area of shiny newly broken metal and a significant amount of dull metal from ever deepening cracks. The stress cracks wil be in other places besides where it broke...this time. Reggie >From: "Paulson" <dp… [at] socal.rr.com> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Struts >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:39:35 -0700 > >Randy a few months past there was a listing for a company in the Seattle >aera or I know of a great welder in Sun Valley he does most of the race car >heads and I know it would be done correct >Dave Paulson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Randy Alcorn > To: dw… [at] cox.net > Cc: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:06 PM > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Struts > > > I am to late. I was able to squeeze down there and tighten everything. >The vibration was still there. I jumped in the water and looked. The strut >is in two pieces. Are these speacially made? Anybody have any idea where to >start? Randy > > David W. Owen wrote: > > Slip into your port or starboard lazarette (right or left handed?) and > > folding your legs just right you can slide down under the cockpit sole >far > > enough to reach the nuts on the inside of the boat. A 3/8 drive >ratchet > > should move side to side enough to work. The forward nuts will >actually be > > in front of the bulkhead in the lazy, but there's a large enough >"limber" > > for you to still reach them. You will need an assistant to hold a >giant > > screwdriver on the outside of the boat, if it has the same style >bronze > > machine screws that Mariposa had. > > This might be better done in the yard, where you can drop the strut, >and > > re-bed it before you tighten it. Gives you a chance to inspect and >probably > > replace the cutless bearing as well, but you definitely need to get >that > > tightened or all hell could break (bad word) loose under power. > > David Wilkie Owen > > ____________ _____ > > Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" > > Santa Barbara, CA > > http://www.mariposa sailing.com > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com ] >On Behalf > > Of Randy Alcorn > > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:49 PM > > To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Struts > > I am getting a vibration in forward gear. I have a folding prop and >usally I > > get kelp or plastic bags wrapped around my prop. I dove the boat and >my > > strut is loose. I can't find any cracks just movement. > > How do I tighten it up? > > Randy > > Cal 2-29 > > Out Patient > > Channel Islands Ca > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: > > < http://us.rd. yahoo.com/ evt=48253/ *http://mobile. yahoo.com/ >go?refer= 1GNXIC > > > mail, news, photos more. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz > > > Share your special parenting moments! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us

The outfit is Marine Hardware in Redmond, Wa. I do some business with them in my day job. Google them, they will be of great help. Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma, on his way out the dor to "Winds of Cal-tember" On Sep 7, 2007, at 11:56 PM, r good wrote: > the problem with welding the broken strut is that they tend to break > from > stress cracks, possibly as a result of becoming brittle over time. > You'll > probably note when looking at the break that there is a small area of > shiny > newly broken metal and a significant amount of dull metal from ever > deepening cracks. The stress cracks wil be in other places besides > where it > broke...this time. > Reggie > > >From: "Paulson" <dp… [at] socal.rr.com> > >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > >To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Struts > >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:39:35 -0700 > > > >Randy a few months past there was a listing for a company in the > Seattle > >aera or I know of a great welder in Sun Valley he does most of the > race car > >heads and I know it would be done correct > >Dave Paulson > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Randy Alcorn > > To: dw… [at] cox.net > > Cc: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:06 PM > > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Struts > > > > > > I am to late. I was able to squeeze down there and tighten > everything. > >The vibration was still there. I jumped in the water and looked. The > strut > >is in two pieces. Are these speacially made? Anybody have any idea > where to > >start? Randy > > > > David W. Owen wrote: > > > Slip into your port or starboard lazarette (right or left > handed?) and > > > folding your legs just right you can slide down under the cockpit > sole > >far > > > enough to reach the nuts on the inside of the boat. A 3/8 drive > >ratchet > > > should move side to side enough to work. The forward nuts will > >actually be > > > in front of the bulkhead in the lazy, but there's a large enough > >"limber" > > > for you to still reach them. You will need an assistant to hold a > >giant > > > screwdriver on the outside of the boat, if it has the same style > >bronze > > > machine screws that Mariposa had. > > > This might be better done in the yard, where you can drop the > strut, > >and > > > re-bed it before you tighten it. Gives you a chance to inspect and > >probably > > > replace the cutless bearing as well, but you definitely need to > get > >that > > > tightened or all hell could break (bad word) loose under power. > > > David Wilkie Owen > > > ____________ _____ > > > Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" > > > Santa Barbara, CA > > > http://www.mariposa sailing.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou > ps.com ] > >On Behalf > > > Of Randy Alcorn > > > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:49 PM > > > To: cal_boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Struts > > > I am getting a vibration in forward gear. I have a folding prop > and > >usally I > > > get kelp or plastic bags wrapped around my prop. I dove the boat > and > >my > > > strut is loose. I can't find any cracks just movement. > > > How do I tighten it up? > > > Randy > > > Cal 2-29 > > > Out Patient > > > Channel Islands Ca > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your > pocket: > > > < http://us.rd. yahoo.com/ evt=48253/ *http://mobile. yahoo.com/ > >go?refer= 1GNXIC > > > > mail, news, photos more. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Share your special parenting moments! > http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us > > >

I don't know if this helps you or not, but in May I had a new strut made for my Cal 29. I had it done at Marine Hardware here in Redmond, WA. http://www.marinehardware.com I sent them my old strut that was pretty darn pink and had a lot of cracks. They made me a new one. I think it was around $500.00. Here's a link to a picture of my old and new strut side by side before putting it on in the boat yard. http://i9.tinypic.com/4yfdi0z.jpg Gregg Chaconne 1978 #1008 Cal 3-29 --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@...> wrote: > > I am to late. I was able to squeeze down there and tighten everything. The vibration was still there. I jumped in the water and looked. The strut is in two pieces. Are these speacially made? Anybody have any idea where to start? Randy >

Has anyone tried these guys http://www.buckalgonquin.com/pages/ProductPages/drivetrain.html John Boyce CAL2-27 #650 Gotcha Again _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of greggsalisbury Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:35 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Struts I don't know if this helps you or not, but in May I had a new strut made for my Cal 29. I had it done at Marine Hardware here in Redmond, WA. http://www.marineha <http://www.marinehardware.com> rdware.com I sent them my old strut that was pretty darn pink and had a lot of cracks. They made me a new one. I think it was around $500.00. Here's a link to a picture of my old and new strut side by side before putting it on in the boat yard. http://i9.tinypic. <http://i9.tinypic.com/4yfdi0z.jpg> com/4yfdi0z.jpg Gregg Chaconne 1978 #1008 Cal 3-29 --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, Randy Alcorn <saylorran@...> wrote: > > I am to late. I was able to squeeze down there and tighten everything. The vibration was still there. I jumped in the water and looked. The strut is in two pieces. Are these speacially made? Anybody have any idea where to start? Randy >