Oil Anchor Lights--Enough Light

I'm on a lake and the masthead anchor light is way too high for the powerboaters racing across the lake to see. I've been thinking about getting an oil lamp and hanging from the forestay. I see Weems & Plath and Den Haan lamps that are allegedly "anchor lamps." However, on West Marine's site they have a disclaimer: "not USCG approved for navigation/anchoring." Does anyone use these oil lamps for anchoring? If so how effective are they? Thanks, Travis

I went to Home Depot and purchased a couple of rechargable garden lights. I hung them on my boat and leave them there all the time. Provide lots of light for those pesky things buzzing around on the water. Neil Victoria --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Travis" <travlin74@...> wrote: > > I'm on a lake and the masthead anchor light is way too high for the > powerboaters racing across the lake to see. I've been thinking about > getting an oil lamp and hanging from the forestay. I see Weems & > Plath and Den Haan lamps that are allegedly "anchor lamps." However, > on West Marine's site they have a disclaimer: "not USCG approved for > navigation/anchoring." > > Does anyone use these oil lamps for anchoring? If so how effective > are they? > > Thanks, > Travis >

On Friday 07 September 2007 08:16:28 pm Travis wrote: > I'm on a lake and the masthead anchor light is way too high for the > powerboaters racing across the lake to see. I've been thinking about > getting an oil lamp and hanging from the forestay. I see Weems & > Plath and Den Haan lamps that are allegedly "anchor lamps." However, > on West Marine's site they have a disclaimer: "not USCG approved for > navigation/anchoring." Coast Guard rules state that you must have one 360degree visible white light, plus "working or cabin lights as required" for visibility. Those oil lamps aren't usable as the single anchor light, but as additional lights, they'll work just fine.

I would keep the original anchor light in good repair and used when anchoring, to stay legal. Then add several solar powered lights. Newer ones are pretty bright. They can be hung from boom, lifelines, etc. Several lights make you look bigger and you can find yoru way back in the dark. Also, my bride used one to read the combination for re-entry to the boat the other night. No oil, no fire risk, no batteries to replace or recharge. Reggie >From: "Travis" <tr… [at] sbcglobal.net> >Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Cal_Boats] Oil Anchor Lights--Enough Light >Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 03:16:28 -0000 > >I'm on a lake and the masthead anchor light is way too high for the >powerboaters racing across the lake to see. I've been thinking about >getting an oil lamp and hanging from the forestay. I see Weems & >Plath and Den Haan lamps that are allegedly "anchor lamps." However, >on West Marine's site they have a disclaimer: "not USCG approved for >navigation/anchoring." > >Does anyone use these oil lamps for anchoring? If so how effective >are they? > >Thanks, >Travis > Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Caf�. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline1

Neil, Have you considered using a yellow bug light, or instead, better yet, a big fly swatter, for them pesky buzzing things? Arrggh, Jerry. Neil McBride <n-… [at] shaw.ca> wrote: I went to Home Depot and purchased a couple of rechargable garden lights. I hung them on my boat and leave them there all the time. Provide lots of light for those pesky things buzzing around on the water. Neil Victoria --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Travis" <travlin74@...> wrote: > > I'm on a lake and the masthead anchor light is way too high for the > powerboaters racing across the lake to see. I've been thinking about > getting an oil lamp and hanging from the forestay. I see Weems & > Plath and Den Haan lamps that are allegedly "anchor lamps." However, > on West Marine's site they have a disclaimer: "not USCG approved for > navigation/anchoring." > > Does anyone use these oil lamps for anchoring? If so how effective > are they? > > Thanks, > Travis >

Our boat came with one of these. http://www.foreandaftmarine.com/85-452014.htm The battery has lasted many years and the new ones are light activated to go off in the morning. We swing ours from the first spreader on the burgee halyard at dusk. Thinking it is more visible to any fast power boat cruising through the anchorage, I sleep better. YMMV John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Travis Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:16 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] [Cal_Boats] Oil Anchor Lights--Enough Light I'm on a lake and the masthead anchor light is way too high for the powerboaters racing across the lake to see. I've been thinking about getting an oil lamp and hanging from the forestay. I see Weems & Plath and Den Haan lamps that are allegedly "anchor lamps." However, on West Marine's site they have a disclaimer: "not USCG approved for navigation/anchoring." Does anyone use these oil lamps for anchoring? If so how effective are they? Thanks, Travis

I had one of these Guest lights when I had a Catalina 25, and it did the job. I did get hassled by the DNR one evening when I had it rigged and it didn't turn on by sunset (although there was still plenty of light). I ended up turning on the steaming light to satisfy the DNR (go figure?) until it got dark enough to activate the photoelectric switch. (It couldn't be turned on manually.) Also, I do not think these lights are bright enough to technically meet the USCG requirements for anchor lights. This is implied in their ad where they state it is suitable for "designated anchor areas," which IIRC do not require anchor lights. If I'm right about all this, the wording in their ad strikes me as being a little sharp. Nevertheless, this is a practical way to provide for a low-mounted light in addition to a masthead light or, except for the legality (brightness and 360 deg. visibility), as a stand-alone light. Nobody ever complained about that. Harleigh Ewell Cal 31 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john raxter Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 7:12 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM] [Cal_Boats] Oil Anchor Lights--Enough Light Our boat came with one of these. http://www.foreanda <http://www.foreandaftmarine.com/85-452014.htm> ftmarine.com/85-452014.htm The battery has lasted many years and the new ones are light activated to go off in the morning. We swing ours from the first spreader on the burgee halyard at dusk. Thinking it is more visible to any fast power boat cruising through the anchorage, I sleep better.

Travis wrote: > > I'm on a lake and the masthead anchor light is way too high for the > powerboaters racing across the lake to see. I've been thinking about > getting an oil lamp and hanging from the forestay. I see Weems & > Plath and Den Haan lamps that are allegedly "anchor lamps." However, > on West Marine's site they have a disclaimer: "not USCG approved for > navigation/anchoring." > > Does anyone use these oil lamps for anchoring? If so how effective > are they? > Travis: I've never used those lamps but have used an old kerosene lamp, pulled partway of the forestay using the spinnaker halyard. This lets you put the light at a height that will be effective. You might also consider the LED light made by Davis--it's portable. It plugs into a cigarette lighter receptacle (the car makers call them power points now?). You can hang it where you want. A photoelectric on/off switch is an option when you buy it. You could hang this one low and it won't use much electricity, either. Chris Campbell

Harleigh Ewell wrote: > > > Also, I do not think these lights are bright enough to technically > meet the USCG requirements for anchor lights. This is implied in > their ad where they state it is suitable for "designated anchor > areas," which IIRC do not require anchor lights. > I think that the USCG specs for anchor lights are a standard "one size fits all" rule. That is, they're designed to assure adequate visibility in all circumstances. Nothing wrong with that, since the rules are designed to avoid collisions in all circumstances. But as a practical matter, most of us anchor in selected circumstances--places that are protected and where we won't be encountering commercial vessels or other large boats that need a mile's visibility so they can avoid us. Our anchor lights are there so other slow-moving craft don't bump into us. My Cal lies on a mooring just outside the designated mooring area here. I don't use an anchor light because there are lots of other boats around mine. My liability worries are diminished because my boat is on one of the innermost moorings. A crazed powerboater would have to plow through a field of larger boats to reach mine. I view them as sacrificial vessels. Chris Campbell

Hi Travis, I use the oil lantern out here at the islands. I sail the Channel Islands and spent many a night under the same oil lantern. I bought it thinking it would be maintenance free. Here are my pet peeves; I have hung it from the forestay and the down haul; it has come apart and broke into little pieces. It twists together and under pressure, with rocking in the waves all night it has a tendency to untwist and crash on the deck. I use candle wax so it did not catch everything on fire. I have replaced the smoke dome and internal globe(??) the little thing that prevents the wind from blowing out the flame behind the forensnal lens. Now I hang it from the spreaders and I am not liking it either. Dave Paulson can tell you a story about a guy who swam to his boat in the middle of the night. If you do not use it for a period of time, just because it looks nautical, empty the oil out of it. The wick draws the oil up and the oil collects on the reservoir then drips all over the place. Now, what would I recommend? I see a lot of those garden lamps that are solar charged, they last about 10 hours and put out a decent light. I just bought one for my boat and have a fishing pole holder on the stern rail that I slide the base into. However, I just got back from the islands and thinking about what you are asking, mast head anchor lights stand out pretty much against a dark sky. But, what really stood out and was really obnoxious was a LED lantern that hung from the end of someone’s boom. You could see it from all over the anchorage, and I liked it cause you can adjust it, it was solar charged and it was simple. I can ask him where he got it and tell you. But it was bright and we had to ask him if he could turn it down and he did a couple of notches. Randy CAL 2-29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca Travis <tr… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: I'm on a lake and the masthead anchor light is way too high for the powerboaters racing across the lake to see. I've been thinking about getting an oil lamp and hanging from the forestay. I see Weems & Plath and Den Haan lamps that are allegedly "anchor lamps." However, on West Marine's site they have a disclaimer: "not USCG approved for navigation/anchoring." Does anyone use these oil lamps for anchoring? If so how effective are they? Thanks, Travis --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.

yes, ask him please :-) Randy Alcorn wrote: > But, what really stood out and was really obnoxious was a LED lantern > that hung from the end of someone's boom. > You could see it from all over the anchorage, and I liked it cause you > can adjust it, it was solar charged and it was simple. > I can ask him where he got it and tell you. > But it was bright and we had to ask him if he could turn it down and > he did a couple of notches. > > Randy > CAL 2-29 > Out Patient > Channel Islands Ca > > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

Hi Randy and all, Thanks for the oil lamp stories. Before the thread, I had one ordered, but based on the feedback, I've now cancelled the order. No oil for me! I would be interested in the solar charged LED light you mentioned. Travis ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Alcorn To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Oil Anchor Lights--Enough Light Hi Travis, I use the oil lantern out here at the islands. I sail the Channel Islands and spent many a night under the same oil lantern. I bought it thinking it would be maintenance free. Here are my pet peeves; I have hung it from the forestay and the down haul; it has come apart and broke into little pieces. It twists together and under pressure, with rocking in the waves all night it has a tendency to untwist and crash on the deck. I use candle wax so it did not catch everything on fire. I have replaced the smoke dome and internal globe(??) the little thing that prevents the wind from blowing out the flame behind the forensnal lens. Now I hang it from the spreaders and I am not liking it either. Dave Paulson can tell you a story about a guy who swam to his boat in the middle of the night. If you do not use it for a period of time, just because it looks nautical, empty the oil out of it. The wick draws the oil up and the oil collects on the reservoir then drips all over the place. Now, what would I recommend? I see a lot of those garden lamps that are solar charged, they last about 10 hours and put out a decent light. I just bought one for my boat and have a fishing pole holder on the stern rail that I slide the base into. However, I just got back from the islands and thinking about what you are asking, mast head anchor lights stand out pretty much against a dark sky. But, what really stood out and was really obnoxious was a LED lantern that hung from the end of someone's boom. You could see it from all over the anchorage, and I liked it cause you can adjust it, it was solar charged and it was simple. I can ask him where he got it and tell you. But it was bright and we had to ask him if he could turn it down and he did a couple of notches. Randy CAL 2-29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca Travis <tr… [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote: I'm on a lake and the masthead anchor light is way too high for the powerboaters racing across the lake to see. I've been thinking about getting an oil lamp and hanging from the forestay. I see Weems & Plath and Den Haan lamps that are allegedly "anchor lamps." However, on West Marine's site they have a disclaimer: "not USCG approved for navigation/anchoring." Does anyone use these oil lamps for anchoring? If so how effective are they? Thanks, Travis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.

I think we are all interested in the solar LED light! --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <travlin74@...> wrote: > > Hi Randy and all, > Thanks for the oil lamp stories. Before the thread, I had one ordered, but based on the feedback, I've now cancelled the order. No oil for me! I would be interested in the solar charged LED light you mentioned. > Travis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Randy Alcorn > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Oil Anchor Lights--Enough Light > > > > Hi Travis, > > I use the oil lantern out here at the islands. I sail the Channel Islands and spent many a night under the same oil lantern. > I bought it thinking it would be maintenance free. > Here are my pet peeves; > I have hung it from the forestay and the down haul; it has come apart and broke into little pieces. It twists together and under pressure, with rocking in the waves all night it has a tendency to untwist and crash on the deck. I use candle wax so it did not catch everything on fire. > I have replaced the smoke dome and internal globe(??) the little thing that prevents the wind from blowing out the flame behind the forensnal lens. > Now I hang it from the spreaders and I am not liking it either. Dave Paulson can tell you a story about a guy who swam to his boat in the middle of the night. > If you do not use it for a period of time, just because it looks nautical, empty the oil out of it. The wick draws the oil up and the oil collects on the reservoir then drips all over the place. > > Now, what would I recommend? > I see a lot of those garden lamps that are solar charged, they last about 10 hours and put out a decent light. I just bought one for my boat and have a fishing pole holder on the stern rail that I slide the base into. However, I just got back from the islands and thinking about what you are asking, mast head anchor lights stand out pretty much against a dark sky. > > But, what really stood out and was really obnoxious was a LED lantern that hung from the end of someone's boom. > You could see it from all over the anchorage, and I liked it cause you can adjust it, it was solar charged and it was simple. > I can ask him where he got it and tell you. > But it was bright and we had to ask him if he could turn it down and he did a couple of notches. > > Randy > CAL 2-29 > Out Patient > Channel Islands Ca > > Travis <travlin74@...> wrote: > I'm on a lake and the masthead anchor light is way too high for the > powerboaters racing across the lake to see. I've been thinking about > getting an oil lamp and hanging from the forestay. I see Weems & > Plath and Den Haan lamps that are allegedly "anchor lamps." However, > on West Marine's site they have a disclaimer: "not USCG approved for > navigation/anchoring." > > Does anyone use these oil lamps for anchoring? If so how effective > are they? > > Thanks, > Travis > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. >

Bruce, guess you have to leave it out there during the day to recharge. What would really be neat is a lamp that provides its own opto-electrical recharge capability. The true self licking popsicle. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Stirling Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:36 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Oil Anchor Lights--Enough Light I think we are all interested in the solar LED light! --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, <travlin74@...> wrote: > > Hi Randy and all, > Thanks for the oil lamp stories. Before the thread, I had one ordered, but based on the feedback, I've now cancelled the order. No oil for me! I would be interested in the solar charged LED light you mentioned. > Travis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Randy Alcorn > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Oil Anchor Lights--Enough Light > > > > Hi Travis, > > I use the oil lantern out here at the islands. I sail the Channel Islands and spent many a night under the same oil lantern. > I bought it thinking it would be maintenance free. > Here are my pet peeves; > I have hung it from the forestay and the down haul; it has come apart and broke into little pieces. It twists together and under pressure, with rocking in the waves all night it has a tendency to untwist and crash on the deck. I use candle wax so it did not catch everything on fire. > I have replaced the smoke dome and internal globe(??) the little thing that prevents the wind from blowing out the flame behind the forensnal lens. > Now I hang it from the spreaders and I am not liking it either. Dave Paulson can tell you a story about a guy who swam to his boat in the middle of the night. > If you do not use it for a period of time, just because it looks nautical, empty the oil out of it. The wick draws the oil up and the oil collects on the reservoir then drips all over the place. > > Now, what would I recommend? > I see a lot of those garden lamps that are solar charged, they last about 10 hours and put out a decent light. I just bought one for my boat and have a fishing pole holder on the stern rail that I slide the base into. However, I just got back from the islands and thinking about what you are asking, mast head anchor lights stand out pretty much against a dark sky. > > But, what really stood out and was really obnoxious was a LED lantern that hung from the end of someone's boom. > You could see it from all over the anchorage, and I liked it cause you can adjust it, it was solar charged and it was simple. > I can ask him where he got it and tell you. > But it was bright and we had to ask him if he could turn it down and he did a couple of notches. > > Randy > CAL 2-29 > Out Patient > Channel Islands Ca > > Travis <travlin74@...> wrote: > I'm on a lake and the masthead anchor light is way too high for the > powerboaters racing across the lake to see. I've been thinking about > getting an oil lamp and hanging from the forestay. I see Weems & > Plath and Den Haan lamps that are allegedly "anchor lamps." However, > on West Marine's site they have a disclaimer: "not USCG approved for > navigation/anchoring." > > Does anyone use these oil lamps for anchoring? If so how effective > are they? > > Thanks, > Travis > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > Yahoo! Groups Links