Gig Harbor Cal 43

That Gig Harbor Cal 43 is now on Crig's List with a reduced price. The listing is here: http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/438252204.html It was about $125k a couple of months ago. They are now asking $97k, which is not that far out of line if it is in really good shape. These are beautiful cruising boats. I looked at one in Portland before I bought the 40 and he had ruined it by replacing the chain plates with external bolt-on ones. Had it been this nice and had the price been a bit lower (He was asking $95k at the time) I might have bought it. Pictures of the boat I looked at are here: http://users.adelphia.net/~anchrwtch/SummerWind/SummerWind.html I don't know if it is still for sale as I heard he had sold it for about $65k. The chain plates would have to be fixed and that would probably involve a paint job. The other had pictures around when it was listed through a broker last summer. Mike Kennedy Sr Conquest Cal 40 # 96

Charlie, Here's your chance to corner the market dEmO From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:04 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Gig Harbor Cal 43 That Gig Harbor Cal 43 is now on Crig's List with a reduced price. The listing is here: http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/438252204.html <http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/438252204.html> It was about $125k a couple of months ago. They are now asking $97k, which is not that far out of line if it is in really good shape. These are beautiful cruising boats. I looked at one in Portland before I bought the 40 and he had ruined it by replacing the chain plates with external bolt-on ones. Had it been this nice and had the price been a bit lower (He was asking $95k at the time) I might have bought it. Pictures of the boat I looked at are here: http://users.adelphia.net/~anchrwtch/SummerWind/SummerWind.html <http://users.adelphia.net/~anchrwtch/SummerWind/SummerWind.html> I don't know if it is still for sale as I heard he had sold it for about $65k. The chain plates would have to be fixed and that would probably involve a paint job. The other had pictures around when it was listed through a broker last summer. Mike Kennedy Sr Conquest Cal 40 # 96

Anybody looking at this boat may wish to see it out of the water. Nuff said....Caveat emptor. Terry Spencer Tacoma Cal 2-29 Capriccio From: "mtkennedy1" <mt… [at] cox.net> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:04:22 -0000 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Gig Harbor Cal 43 That Gig Harbor Cal 43 is now on Crig's List with a reduced price. The listing is here: http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/438252204.html It was about $125k a couple of months ago. They are now asking $97k, which is not that far out of line if it is in really good shape. These are beautiful cruising boats. I looked at one in Portland before I bought the 40 and he had ruined it by replacing the chain plates with external bolt-on ones. Had it been this nice and had the price been a bit lower (He was asking $95k at the time) I might have bought it. Pictures of the boat I looked at are here: http://users.adelphia.net/~anchrwtch/SummerWind/SummerWind.html I don't know if it is still for sale as I heard he had sold it for about $65k. The chain plates would have to be fixed and that would probably involve a paint job. The other had pictures around when it was listed through a broker last summer. Mike Kennedy Sr Conquest Cal 40 # 96

what about the dead emperor? From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terrence Spencer Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 6:07 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Gig Harbor Cal 43 Anybody looking at this boat may wish to see it out of the water. Nuff said....Caveat emptor. Terry Spencer Tacoma Cal 2-29 Capriccio From: "mtkennedy1" <mt… [at] cox.net> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:04:22 -0000 To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Gig Harbor Cal 43 That Gig Harbor Cal 43 is now on Crig's List with a reduced price. The listing is here: http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/438252204.html <http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/438252204.html> It was about $125k a couple of months ago. They are now asking $97k, which is not that far out of line if it is in really good shape. These are beautiful cruising boats. I looked at one in Portland before I bought the 40 and he had ruined it by replacing the chain plates with external bolt-on ones. Had it been this nice and had the price been a bit lower (He was asking $95k at the time) I might have bought it. Pictures of the boat I looked at are here: http://users.adelphia.net/~anchrwtch/SummerWind/SummerWind.html <http://users.adelphia.net/~anchrwtch/SummerWind/SummerWind.html> I don't know if it is still for sale as I heard he had sold it for about $65k. The chain plates would have to be fixed and that would probably involve a paint job. The other had pictures around when it was listed through a broker last summer. Mike Kennedy Sr Conquest Cal 40 # 96

Mike Kennedy Sr wrote: "he had ruined it by replacing the chain plates with external bolt-on ones. > Mike Kennedy Sr > Conquest Cal 40 # 96" ----------------------------------------------------------- Mike, You've mentioned several times in the past, and now again, that this boat was ruined by the external bolt-on plates. Forgive me, but could you explain how the modification ruined the boat?

The sheeting angles are different. The genoa cannot be sheeted inside the lifeline. The spreaders are now too short so the shroud angles do not match the spreader angle and the loads are not properly distributed. If you want to restore the original chain plates, there are holes in the hull to patch and it will require a paint job. It doesn't look like a Cal 43 should look. Those are a few reasons. I would want an experienced rigger to g over it and it might require new spreaders to get the angles right. Otherwise, under heavy load, the spreader might collapse due to improper load angles at the spreader tip. I haven't calculated the loads but the design calls for a right angle between the spreader and the lower segment of the upper shroud. The shift of the chain plate outboard changes that angle to an obtuse one. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 On Oct 3, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Bruce Stirling wrote: > Mike Kennedy Sr wrote: > > "he had ruined it by replacing the chain plates with external bolt-on > ones. > > Mike Kennedy Sr > > Conquest Cal 40 # 96" > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Mike, > > You've mentioned several times in the past, and now again, that this > boat was ruined by the external bolt-on plates. Forgive me, but could > you explain how the modification ruined the boat? > > >

i thought the angles between the spreader and the shroud were suposed to be equal above and below the spreader. reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: mt… [at] cox.netDate: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 05:58:09 -0700Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Gig Harbor Cal 43 The sheeting angles are different. The genoa cannot be sheeted inside the lifeline. The spreaders are now too short so the shroud angles do not match the spreader angle and the loads are not properly distributed. If you want to restore the original chain plates, there are holes in the hull to patch and it will require a paint job. It doesn't look like a Cal 43 should look. Those are a few reasons. I would want an experienced rigger to g over it and it might require new spreaders to get the angles right. Otherwise, under heavy load, the spreader might collapse due to improper load angles at the spreader tip. I haven't calculated the loads but the design calls for a right angle between the spreader and the lower segment of the upper shroud. The shift of the chain plate outboard changes that angle to an obtuse one. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 On Oct 3, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Bruce Stirling wrote: Mike Kennedy Sr wrote:"he had ruined it by replacing the chain plates with external bolt-onones. > Mike Kennedy Sr> Conquest Cal 40 # 96"----------------------------------------------------------Mike,You've mentioned several times in the past, and now again, that thisboat was ruined by the external bolt-on plates. Forgive me, but couldyou explain how the modification ruined the boat?

r good wrote: > > i thought the angles between the spreader and the shroud were suposed > to be equal above and below the spreader. > My two boats both have pivoting spreaders, which allows you to bisect the angle (tip the spreaders up a bit). Some boats have fixed spreader sockets on the mast. That doesn't give you any choice of angles. The downside of the pivoting arrangement is that the spreader can move downward, as for example from the tension on a burgee halyard running to it. Our eminent Rog Jones gave a plan for making little supports to go on the shroud under the spreader tip and I'm going to be doing that. My Cal 20's starboard spreader kept drooping this summer and I had to make a temporary fix--a piece of dowel, split, drilled, and fastened around the shroud with a hose clamp, and tightened enough so it would support the spreader but loose enough that I could push it up with the boat hook. I had replaced the old wire securing the shroud to the spreader and apparently it wasn't tight enough. Chris Campbell