Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 update!

Primarily, the dockmaster just wants it gone. It's currently in a pretty big slip, and he most likely thinks he can get someone new, with a new shing big moat in there and make more money. I've certainly not given up, I'm just a little discouraged. I know I can fix whatever is wrong with that inboard, and the cosmetic stuff is wholly irrelevant to me, as I have an amazing Brush of Scrubbing! Definately if somebody approached him and said "I'll take that boat away immediately" he'd probably be happy with that - except the harbor cleanup program has already said that to him...

Lord Nougat wrote: > Definately if somebody approached him and said "I'll take that boat > away immediately" he'd probably be happy with that - except the harbor > cleanup program has already said that to him... How about approaching the harbor cleanup program with an offer to take it off their hands for free? I'm sure they have to pay for disposal--pay employees or contractors to move, haul, and destroy the boat, then pay somebody to dump the remains. If they can remove one boat from the problem list with out denting their budget, maybe they'd be happy, and you would, too. Best of all, get them to haul it out and then give it to you. Chris Campbell

or just ask the main marina boss, in fact pestering him his every waking moment. And pester the clean harbor folks too. Pester, pester, pester. Chris Campbell wrote: > Lord Nougat wrote: > >> Definately if somebody approached him and said "I'll take that boat >> away immediately" he'd probably be happy with that - except the >> harbor cleanup program has already said that to him... > > > > > How about approaching the harbor cleanup program with an offer to take > it off their hands for free? I'm sure they have to pay for > disposal--pay employees or contractors to move, haul, and destroy the > boat, then pay somebody to dump the remains. If they can remove one > boat from the problem list with out denting their budget, maybe they'd > be happy, and you would, too. > > Best of all, get them to haul it out and then give it to you. > > Chris Campbell > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

Marsh Wise wrote: > > or just ask the main marina boss, in fact pestering him his every > waking moment. And pester the clean harbor folks too. Pester, pester, > pester. > But use good judgment. I hired a guy once because he kept pestering me. I was waiting for am image to appear in the sky or something and kept deferring a decision. Finally I got tired of this guy calling me so I hired him. He didn't piss me off and was polite about it. If you cross the line and make 'em angry, you've lost. So pester politely. Chris Campbell

If they just want it to disappear, disappear it! To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: lo… [at] yahoo.comDate: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:49:49 -0700Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 update! Primarily, the dockmaster just wants it gone. It's currently in a pretty big slip, and he most likely thinks he can get someone new, with a new shing big moat in there and make more money. I've certainly not given up, I'm just a little discouraged. I know I can fix whatever is wrong with that inboard, and the cosmetic stuff is wholly irrelevant to me, as I have an amazing Brush of Scrubbing! Definately if somebody approached him and said "I'll take that boat away immediately" he'd probably be happy with that - except the harbor cleanup program has already said that to him...From what the office said, if it's still there this weekend, we'll be lucky. I'm going to go there again tomorrow morning and whine and cajole and be a general [polite] nuisance; perhaps if the man himself is there, he'll listen to reason. He might be a powerboat guy, in which case all hope is lost. ----- Original Message ----From: george macon <ge… [at] hotmail.com>To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, October 4, 2007 5:47:57 AMSubject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 update! I would not be discouraged about the boat if its cosmetically rough. The great thing about these boats, is that there built so stoutly, you really can keep em going indefnitely. It sounds like they may just "give" someone the boat. Cant it be taken to some other marina or stored on the hard for a few months just to give it a thorough cleaning/repair if this place wont let you keep it there? To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.comFrom: marsh@reenactor. netDate: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 00:09:36 -0400Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 update! DUDE, you should just do it.Lord Nougat wrote: So, I went to the marina this morning to pay my slipfee, and also to talk to the dockmaster about that Cal 28. The dockmaster was not there yet, but his helpful minion was, so he gladly took my payment, and then tried to talk me out of wanting that "old wreck" of a Cal 28, "it doesn't have a running engine, so Tom (the dockmaster) doesn't feel it would even be worth trying to sell..." so, apparently, they're planning on taking advantage of some awful harbor cleanup thing, where the LA Harbor will take 'derelict' vessels, and just scrap em. This is too awful, so if anybody with more money than me wants her, by all means call Cabrillo Way marina in San Pedro.Ostensibly, Tom might have someone call me, but I got the impression they have no interest in selling her regardless, and will need pestering, possibly with cash. I was really hoping the prospect of me just paying the slipfee on it would be enough, but I think he's hoping to get rid of it entirely and bring in someone with a fancy new shiny boat with a longer LOA that will pay more. If someone were willing to actually pay something more than a few hundred bucks for her, she may yet be saved. I looked again at her in the daylight, and there's a rusted old lock on the lazarette where the outboard well might be, it didn't look like there was an opening down there from what I could see, but they are cleverly hidden...and also it might be glassed over as it does have an inboard. The official story on that is that it leaks oil, otherwise the crank turns over, and seems like it might start if inclined, but since it doesn't hold oil, oh well, we'll just throw her away. I haven't given up yet, but people are starting to try to talk me out of it already, so if there is somebody out there who's wife isn't saying "we need a new fridge washer/dryer" ... and other boring stuff more than an awesome boat and can afford to bribe, ahem, I mean buy this boat, another awesome Cal might be saved.Cabrillo Way Marina2500 Miner StSan Pedro, CA 90731Phone: (310) 514-4985Also, it's in slip 115, in case that somehow helps. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -- Marsh WiseWebmaster:-reenactor.Net: http://www.reenacto r.net/-Foresthill. us: http://www.foresthi ll.us/-Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenacto r.net/units/ legio_ix_ penna/- 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenacto r.net/units/ 17lwfd/>Assistant Webmaster:-VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenacto r.net/vaq- 33/Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...)-LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio- ix-hispana. org/Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: SturmkatzeYahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatzeAlteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraveruntSuppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain*Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT?Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenacto r.net/forums/ index.php right now! Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today! Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos.

I'd call and ask for his number. NOW, don't wait. He who hesitates is lost. Lord Nougat wrote: > Primarily, the dockmaster just wants it gone. It's currently in a > pretty big slip, and he most likely thinks he can get someone new, > with a new shing big moat in there and make more money. I've certainly > not given up, I'm just a little discouraged. I know I can fix whatever > is wrong with that inboard, and the cosmetic stuff is wholly > irrelevant to me, as I have an amazing Brush of Scrubbing! Definately > if somebody approached him and said "I'll take that boat away > immediately" he'd probably be happy with that - except the harbor > cleanup program has already said that to him... > >From what the office said, if it's still there this weekend, we'll be > lucky. I'm going to go there again tomorrow morning and whine and > cajole and be a general [polite] nuisance; perhaps if the man himself > is there, he'll listen to reason. He might be a powerboat guy, in > which case all hope is lost. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: george macon <ge… [at] hotmail.com> > To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2007 5:47:57 AM > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 update! > > > I would not be discouraged about the boat if its cosmetically rough. > > The great thing about these boats, is that there built so stoutly, you > really can keep em going indefnitely. It sounds like they may just > "give" someone the boat. Cant it be taken to some other marina or > stored on the hard for a few months just to give it a thorough > cleaning/repair if this place wont let you keep it there? > > > > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > From: marsh@reenactor. net > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 00:09:36 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 update! > > > DUDE, you should just do it. > > Lord Nougat wrote: > > So, I went to the marina this morning to pay my slipfee, and also > to talk to the dockmaster about that Cal 28. The dockmaster was > not there yet, but his helpful minion was, so he gladly took my > payment, and then tried to talk me out of wanting that "old wreck" > of a Cal 28, "it doesn't have a running engine, so Tom (the > dockmaster) doesn't feel it would even be worth trying to sell..." > so, apparently, they're planning on taking advantage of some awful > harbor cleanup thing, where the LA Harbor will take 'derelict' > vessels, and just scrap em. This is too awful, so if anybody with > more money than me wants her, by all means call Cabrillo Way > marina in San Pedro. > > Ostensibly, Tom might have someone call me, but I got the > impression they have no interest in selling her regardless, and > will need pestering, possibly with cash. I was really hoping the > prospect of me just paying the slipfee on it would be enough, but > I think he's hoping to get rid of it entirely and bring in someone > with a fancy new shiny boat with a longer LOA that will pay more. > If someone were willing to actually pay something more than a few > hundred bucks for her, she may yet be saved. > > I looked again at her in the daylight, and there's a rusted old > lock on the lazarette where the outboard well might be, it didn't > look like there was an opening down there from what I could see, > but they are cleverly hidden...and also it might be glassed over > as it does have an inboard. The official story on that is that it > leaks oil, otherwise the crank turns over, and seems like it might > start if inclined, but since it doesn't hold oil, oh well, we'll > just throw her away. I haven't given up yet, but people are > starting to try to talk me out of it already, so if there is > somebody out there who's wife isn't saying "we need a new fridge > washer/dryer" ... and other boring stuff more than an awesome boat > and can afford to bribe, ahem, I mean buy this boat, another > awesome Cal might be saved. > > Cabrillo Way Marina > 2500 Miner St > San Pedro, CA 90731 > Phone: (310) 514-4985 > > Also, it's in slip 115, in case that somehow helps. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48255/*http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/_ylc=X3oDMTI5MGx2aThyBF9TAzIxMTU1MDAzNTIEX3MDMzk2NTQ1MTAzBHNlYwNCQUJwaWxsYXJfTklfMzYwBHNsawNQcm9kdWN0X3F1ZXN0aW9uX3BhZ2U-?link=list&sid=396545433>from > someone who knows. > Yahoo! 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I kept waiting around on the Cal 20 that was once available at our marina. The asking price was $200. A dockmate said they would probably accept $50, and to offer it. I just about made up my mind to do it when I learned it was scrapped before I arrived. I would hate to see another Cal scrapped for no good reason. I wish I'd acted sooner. I would have had a boat for Mexico and one for San Diego. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:35 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 update! I'd call and ask for his number. NOW, don't wait. He who hesitates is lost. Lord Nougat wrote: Primarily, the dockmaster just wants it gone. It's currently in a pretty big slip, and he most likely thinks he can get someone new, with a new shing big moat in there and make more money. I've certainly not given up, I'm just a little discouraged. I know I can fix whatever is wrong with that inboard, and the cosmetic stuff is wholly irrelevant to me, as I have an amazing Brush of Scrubbing! Definately if somebody approached him and said "I'll take that boat away immediately" he'd probably be happy with that - except the harbor cleanup program has already said that to him... >From what the office said, if it's still there this weekend, we'll be lucky. I'm going to go there again tomorrow morning and whine and cajole and be a general [polite] nuisance; perhaps if the man himself is there, he'll listen to reason. He might be a powerboat guy, in which case all hope is lost. ----- Original Message ---- From: george macon <ge… [at] hotmail.com> To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2007 5:47:57 AM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 update! I would not be discouraged about the boat if its cosmetically rough. The great thing about these boats, is that there built so stoutly, you really can keep em going indefnitely. It sounds like they may just "give" someone the boat. Cant it be taken to some other marina or stored on the hard for a few months just to give it a thorough cleaning/repair if this place wont let you keep it there? To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com From: marsh@reenactor. net Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 00:09:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 28 update! DUDE, you should just do it. Lord Nougat wrote: So, I went to the marina this morning to pay my slipfee, and also to talk to the dockmaster about that Cal 28. The dockmaster was not there yet, but his helpful minion was, so he gladly took my payment, and then tried to talk me out of wanting that "old wreck" of a Cal 28, "it doesn't have a running engine, so Tom (the dockmaster) doesn't feel it would even be worth trying to sell..." so, apparently, they're planning on taking advantage of some awful harbor cleanup thing, where the LA Harbor will take 'derelict' vessels, and just scrap em. This is too awful, so if anybody with more money than me wants her, by all means call Cabrillo Way marina in San Pedro. Ostensibly, Tom might have someone call me, but I got the impression they have no interest in selling her regardless, and will need pestering, possibly with cash. I was really hoping the prospect of me just paying the slipfee on it would be enough, but I think he's hoping to get rid of it entirely and bring in someone with a fancy new shiny boat with a longer LOA that will pay more. If someone were willing to actually pay something more than a few hundred bucks for her, she may yet be saved. I looked again at her in the daylight, and there's a rusted old lock on the lazarette where the outboard well might be, it didn't look like there was an opening down there from what I could see, but they are cleverly hidden...and also it might be glassed over as it does have an inboard. The official story on that is that it leaks oil, otherwise the crank turns over, and seems like it might start if inclined, but since it doesn't hold oil, oh well, we'll just throw her away. I haven't given up yet, but people are starting to try to talk me out of it already, so if there is somebody out there who's wife isn't saying "we need a new fridge washer/dryer" ... and other boring stuff more than an awesome boat and can afford to bribe, ahem, I mean buy this boat, another awesome Cal might be saved. Cabrillo Way Marina 2500 Miner St San Pedro, CA 90731 Phone: (310) 514-4985 Also, it's in slip 115, in case that somehow helps. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenacto r.net/ -Foresthill. us: http://www.foresthi ll.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenacto r.net/units/ legio_ix_ penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenacto r.net/units/ 17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenacto r.net/vaq- 33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio- ix-hispana. org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenacto r.net/forums/ index.php right now! Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!