Manuals/Literature for CAL 39

Am in the process of buying an '83 CAL 39. Anyone know of manuals or guidance material for the CAL 39 on the Internet? Many thanks! Max

Here is a link to the Cal 39 manual: <ftp://ftp.sailjazz.com/cal/cal_39/Manuals/> I have a link to this site on my Cal 28 site, found here: http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28 - under "Cal Archives" in the left side column. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "scubavids" <scubavids@...> wrote: > > Am in the process of buying an '83 CAL 39. Anyone know of manuals or > guidance material for the CAL 39 on the Internet? > > Many thanks! > Max >

Thanks for the tip, Bruce, but the links to the manual pages don't work. I was able to open other ftp pages there, but none of the Cal 39 manual pages will open up. I had been to your Stirlinglaw site, but overlooked the link to the 39. I'll try checking with the webmaster for the sailjazz site and hope it just needs re-linking. In the meantime, I'm trying to extrapolate from some of the other manuals. Thanks again, Bruce! Max, Esq. Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> wrote: Here is a link to the Cal 39 manual: <ftp://ftp.sailjazz.com/cal/cal_39/Manuals/> I have a link to this site on my Cal 28 site, found here: http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28 - under "Cal Archives" in the left side column. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "scubavids" <scubavids@...> wrote: > > Am in the process of buying an '83 CAL 39. Anyone know of manuals or > guidance material for the CAL 39 on the Internet? > > Many thanks! > Max > --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.

Everyone of the links on the page opens for me. Not sure why you would have problems. Each is merely a .jpg (photo) of a single page of the book. If needed, I can download each and probably convert to a PDF doc. What browser are you using? From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Max Becker Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:52 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Manuals/Literature for CAL 39 Thanks for the tip, Bruce, but the links to the manual pages don't work. I was able to open other ftp pages there, but none of the Cal 39 manual pages will open up. I had been to your Stirlinglaw site, but overlooked the link to the 39. I'll try checking with the webmaster for the sailjazz site and hope it just needs re-linking. In the meantime, I'm trying to extrapolate from some of the other manuals. Thanks again, Bruce! Max, Esq. Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> wrote: Here is a link to the Cal 39 manual: <ftp://ftp.sailjazz.com/cal/cal_39/Manuals/> I have a link to this site on my Cal 28 site, found here: http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28 - under "Cal Archives" in the left side column. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "scubavids" <scubavids@...> wrote: > > Am in the process of buying an '83 CAL 39. Anyone know of manuals or > guidance material for the CAL 39 on the Internet? > > Many thanks! > Max > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.

I was gonna ask exactly that question... that and what version. One thing I was gonna ention Bruce. You ought to snag all your links in case the site w/ good info disappears. I have a program called Pagesucker that will download a WHOLE website :-) Works good, i think it was free, but I don't remember. Certainly not more than like $10. Anyway, then just save them on cd or something so the info isn't lost. Best, Marsh Bruce Stirling wrote: > Everyone of the links on the page opens for me. Not sure why you > would have problems. Each is merely a .jpg (photo) of a single page > of the book. If needed, I can download each and probably convert to a > PDF doc. What browser are you using? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On > Behalf Of Max Becker > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:52 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Manuals/Literature for CAL 39 > > Thanks for the tip, Bruce, but the links to the manual pages don't > work. I was able to open other ftp pages there, but none of the Cal > 39 manual pages will open up. I had been to your Stirlinglaw site, > but overlooked the link to the 39. I'll try checking with the > webmaster for the sailjazz site and hope it just needs re-linking. In > the meantime, I'm trying to extrapolate from some of the other manuals. > > Thanks again, Bruce! > Max, Esq. > > Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> wrote: > > Here is a link to the Cal 39 manual: > > <ftp://ftp.sailjazz.com/cal/cal_39/Manuals/ > <ftp://ftp.sailjazz.com/cal/cal_39/Manuals/>> > > I have a link to this site on my Cal 28 site, found here: > > http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28 > <http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28> - under "Cal Archives" in the left > side column. > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>, "scubavids" <scubavids@...> > wrote: > > > > Am in the process of buying an '83 CAL 39. Anyone know of > manuals or > > guidance material for the CAL 39 on the Internet? > > > > Many thanks! > > Max > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48248/*http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz> > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

Thanks for your encouragement, Bruce! Found a work-around. It's baffling, but I still am not able to open the individual pages in the browser, and don't know why. I couldn't even do a "save as" to move it to my computer. However, I was able to "copy" them to a folder on my computer. Once on my computer, I was able to open them with a picture viewer. It may be a security setting on my computer, or a disabled plug-in. I'm running Internet Explorer 7.0 on XP Home Edition SP2. Anyway, all's well that ends well! Thanks again! Max --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Stirling" <bruce@...> wrote: > > Everyone of the links on the page opens for me. Not sure why you would have > problems. Each is merely a .jpg (photo) of a single page of the book. If > needed, I can download each and probably convert to a PDF doc. What browser > are you using? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of Max Becker > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:52 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Manuals/Literature for CAL 39 > > > > Thanks for the tip, Bruce, but the links to the manual pages don't work. I > was able to open other ftp pages there, but none of the Cal 39 manual pages > will open up. I had been to your Stirlinglaw site, but overlooked the link > to the 39. I'll try checking with the webmaster for the sailjazz site and > hope it just needs re-linking. In the meantime, I'm trying to extrapolate > from some of the other manuals. > > Thanks again, Bruce! > Max, Esq. > > Bruce Stirling <bruce@...> wrote: > Here is a link to the Cal 39 manual: > > <ftp://ftp.sailjazz.com/cal/cal_39/Manuals/> > > I have a link to this site on my Cal 28 site, found here: > > http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28 - under "Cal Archives" in the left > side column. > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "scubavids" <scubavids@> wrote: > > > > Am in the process of buying an '83 CAL 39. Anyone know of manuals or > > guidance material for the CAL 39 on the Internet? > > > > Many thanks! > > Max > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > ---- > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. >

I did that, too. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Marsh Wise Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Manuals/Literature for CAL 39 (Bruce) I was gonna ask exactly that question... that and what version. One thing I was gonna ention Bruce. You ought to snag all your links in case the site w/ good info disappears. I have a program called Pagesucker that will download a WHOLE website :-) Works good, i think it was free, but I don't remember. Certainly not more than like $10. Anyway, then just save them on cd or something so the info isn't lost. Best, Marsh Bruce Stirling wrote: Everyone of the links on the page opens for me. Not sure why you would have problems. Each is merely a .jpg (photo) of a single page of the book. If needed, I can download each and probably convert to a PDF doc. What browser are you using? -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Max Becker Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:52 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Manuals/Literature for CAL 39 Thanks for the tip, Bruce, but the links to the manual pages don't work. I was able to open other ftp pages there, but none of the Cal 39 manual pages will open up. I had been to your Stirlinglaw site, but overlooked the link to the 39. I'll try checking with the webmaster for the sailjazz site and hope it just needs re-linking. In the meantime, I'm trying to extrapolate from some of the other manuals. Thanks again, Bruce! Max, Esq. Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> wrote: Here is a link to the Cal 39 manual: <ftp://ftp.sailjazz.com/cal/cal_39/Manuals/> I have a link to this site on my Cal 28 site, found here: http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28 - under "Cal Archives" in the left side column. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "scubavids" <scubavids@...> wrote: > > Am in the process of buying an '83 CAL 39. Anyone know of manuals or > guidance material for the CAL 39 on the Internet? > > Many thanks! > Max > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

:-) Bruce Stirling wrote: > I did that, too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On > Behalf Of Marsh Wise > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:43 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Manuals/Literature for CAL 39 (Bruce) > > I was gonna ask exactly that question... that and what version. One > thing I was gonna ention Bruce. You ought to snag all your links in > case the site w/ good info disappears. I have a program called > Pagesucker that will download a WHOLE website :-) Works good, i think > it was free, but I don't remember. Certainly not more than like $10. > Anyway, then just save them on cd or something so the info isn't lost. > Best, Marsh > > Bruce Stirling wrote: > >> Everyone of the links on the page opens for me. Not sure why you >> would have problems. Each is merely a .jpg (photo) of a single page >> of the book. If needed, I can download each and probably convert to >> a PDF doc. What browser are you using? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On >> Behalf Of Max Becker >> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:52 PM >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Manuals/Literature for CAL 39 >> >> Thanks for the tip, Bruce, but the links to the manual pages don't >> work. I was able to open other ftp pages there, but none of the Cal >> 39 manual pages will open up. I had been to your Stirlinglaw site, >> but overlooked the link to the 39. I'll try checking with the >> webmaster for the sailjazz site and hope it just needs re-linking. >> In the meantime, I'm trying to extrapolate from some of the other >> manuals. >> >> Thanks again, Bruce! >> Max, Esq. >> >> Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> wrote: >> >> Here is a link to the Cal 39 manual: >> >> <ftp://ftp.sailjazz.com/cal/cal_39/Manuals/ >> <ftp://ftp.sailjazz.com/cal/cal_39/Manuals/>> >> >> I have a link to this site on my Cal 28 site, found here: >> >> http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28 >> <http://www.stirlinglaw.com/cal28> - under "Cal Archives" in the left >> side column. >> >> --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>, "scubavids" <scubavids@...> >> wrote: >> > >> > Am in the process of buying an '83 CAL 39. Anyone know of >> manuals or >> > guidance material for the CAL 39 on the Internet? >> > >> > Many thanks! >> > Max >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Got a little couch potato? >> Check out fun summer activities for kids. >> <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48248/*http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz> >> > > >-- >Marsh Wise >Webmaster: >-reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ >-Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ >-Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ >- 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> > >Assistant Webmaster: >-VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ > >Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) >-LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ > >Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze > >Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze > >Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt > >Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain > >*Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? >Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now! > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is the original, now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I 'm sure there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from members of the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a similar sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the expense? Any suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations? Thanks to everyone, Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "R. Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote: > > My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was > contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is the original, > now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I 'm sure > there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from members of > the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a similar > sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the expense? Any > suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations? I chose not to replace the 25 year old boom on my Cal 40 when I bought a new mast. It would have been another $1800 and I thought the old boom was OK for now. I may see about reworking the jammers for the reef lines, especially if we do a Transpac. For cruisjng alone, it probably isn't worth it as long as you have a fixed gooseneck and good sheet and vang arrangements. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 PS. My boom was not the original but was built in 1982, about 15 years after the boat was launched. > > > > Thanks to everyone, > > > > Bob Andrew > > Cal 39 Nereid >

Mike, actually my gooseneck is the swivel variety which precludes using any rigid vang. This was one of my reasons for thinking about a replacement. I don't think I'm in the market for a new mast, but I'm curious what that goes for - must be quite a bit. Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "R. Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote: > > My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was > contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is the original, > now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I 'm sure > there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from members of > the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a similar > sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the expense? Any > suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations? I chose not to replace the 25 year old boom on my Cal 40 when I bought a new mast. It would have been another $1800 and I thought the old boom was OK for now. I may see about reworking the jammers for the reef lines, especially if we do a Transpac. For cruisjng alone, it probably isn't worth it as long as you have a fixed gooseneck and good sheet and vang arrangements. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 PS. My boom was not the original but was built in 1982, about 15 years after the boat was launched. > > > > Thanks to everyone, > > > > Bob Andrew > > Cal 39 Nereid >

Bob, The cast aluminum end piece of my Cal 39 boom (gooseneck end) was cracking, so I ended up replacing it last year, I had to have a new solid aluminum piece machined and the machinist came up with a scheme to keep the boom from rotating, so now a rigid vang works well. This was a good solution that cost a lot less than replacing the boom as well as the gooseneck. Steve Terry Cal 39 Osprey On Oct 7, 2007, at 7:34 PM, R. Andrew wrote: > > Mike, actually my gooseneck is the swivel variety which precludes > using any rigid vang. This was one of my reasons for thinking > about a replacement. I don’t think I’m in the market for a new > mast, but I’m curious what that goes for – must be quite a bit. > > > Bob Andrew > > Cal 39 Nereid > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:11 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "R. Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote: > > > > My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was > > contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is > the original, > > now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I > 'm sure > > there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from > members of > > the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a > similar > > sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the > expense? Any > > suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations? > > I chose not to replace the 25 year old boom on my Cal 40 when I > bought a new mast. It > would have been another $1800 and I thought the old boom was OK for > now. I may see > about reworking the jammers for the reef lines, especially if we do > a Transpac. For > cruisjng alone, it probably isn't worth it as long as you have a > fixed gooseneck and good > sheet and vang arrangements. > > Mike Kennedy > Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > PS. My boom was not the original but was built in 1982, about 15 > years after the boat was > launched. > > > > > > > > > Thanks to everyone, > > > > > > > > Bob Andrew > > > > Cal 39 Nereid > > > > > >

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "R. Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote: > > Mike, actually my gooseneck is the swivel variety which precludes using any > rigid vang. This was one of my reasons for thinking about a replacement. I > don't think I'm in the market for a new mast, but I'm curious what that goes > for - must be quite a bit. You can add a fixed gooseneck without a new mast. My mast was about $17,000 with the rod rigging. The boom was another $1800 and I decided to keep the old one. The new mast is a smaller section with an internal track and new spreaders. Still, if the old mast had been salvageable, I' d have thought very hard about the new one. It was peeling paint and needed new rigging. It would have been more expensive to refinish it. At least that was what I was told. I do think you need to replace rigging, especially rod rigging, every 10 years. You can't tell its condition by looking at it. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > > > Bob Andrew > > Cal 39 Nereid > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of mtkennedy1 > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:11 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom > > > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "R. > Andrew" <rha9@> wrote: > > > > My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was > > contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is the > original, > > now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I 'm sure > > there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from members of > > the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a similar > > sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the expense? Any > > suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations? > > I chose not to replace the 25 year old boom on my Cal 40 when I bought a new > mast. It > would have been another $1800 and I thought the old boom was OK for now. I > may see > about reworking the jammers for the reef lines, especially if we do a > Transpac. For > cruisjng alone, it probably isn't worth it as long as you have a fixed > gooseneck and good > sheet and vang arrangements. > > Mike Kennedy > Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > PS. My boom was not the original but was built in 1982, about 15 years after > the boat was > launched. > > > > > > > > > Thanks to everyone, > > > > > > > > Bob Andrew > > > > Cal 39 Nereid > > >

Bob - I plan on looking at a few Cal 39's in the next month or so. Are you saying that your gooseneck allows the boom to pivot side to side. Do you think it was designed as such to help improve sailshape as the the main is sheeted out or is there some other purpose for this design? Thanks - Paul West From: R. Andrew <rh… [at] cornell.edu> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:34 pm Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom Mike, actually my gooseneck is the swivel variety which precludes using any rigid vang. This was one of my reasons for thinking about a replacement. I don’t think I’m in the market for a new mast, but I’m curious what that goes for – must be quite a bit. Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "R. Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote: > > My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was > contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is the original, > now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I 'm sure > there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from members of > the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a similar > sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the expense? Any > suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations? I chose not to replace the 25 year old boom on my Cal 40 when I bought a new mast. It would have been another $1800 and I thought the old boom was OK for now. I may see about reworking the jammers for the reef lines, especially if we do a Transpac. For cruisjng alone, it probably isn't worth it as long as you have a fixed gooseneck and good sheet and vang arrangements. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 PS. My boom was not the original but was built in 1982, about 15 years after the boat was launched. > > > > Thanks to everyone, > > > > Bob Andrew > > Cal 39 Nereid > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

The swivel allows the boom to pivot along its length. I can only presume that it was designed to improve sail shape - I can't imagine what other purpose would be served. As the boom moves out the bottom pivots up and the net effect is that the direction of the sheet load is more on the underside of the boom rather than at an angle. With the changing orientation of the boom relative to the mast you could not use a rigid vang. I've not seen this kind of swivel arrangement on any other rig. Bob Andrew From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pw… [at] aol.com Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:35 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom Bob - I plan on looking at a few Cal 39's in the next month or so. Are you saying that your gooseneck allows the boom to pivot side to side. Do you think it was designed as such to help improve sailshape as the the main is sheeted out or is there some other purpose for this design? Thanks - Paul West From: R. Andrew <rh… [at] cornell.edu> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:34 pm Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom Mike, actually my gooseneck is the swivel variety which precludes using any rigid vang. This was one of my reasons for thinking about a replacement. I don't think I'm in the market for a new mast, but I'm curious what that goes for - must be quite a bit. Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Cal_ <mailto:Cal_?> Bo… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "R. Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote: > > My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was > contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is the original, > now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I 'm sure > there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from members of > the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a similar > sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the expense? Any > suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations? I chose not to replace the 25 year old boom on my Cal 40 when I bought a new mast. It would have been another $1800 and I thought the old boom was OK for now. I may see about reworking the jammers for the reef lines, especially if we do a Transpac. For cruisjng alone, it probably isn't worth it as long as you have a fixed gooseneck and good sheet and vang arrangements. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 PS. My boom was not the original but was built in 1982, about 15 years after the boat was launched. > > > > Thanks to everyone, > > > > Bob Andrew > > Cal 39 Nereid > _____ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail <http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/index.htm?ncid=A OLAOF00020000000970> !

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Robert Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote: > > The swivel allows the boom to pivot along its length. I can only presume > that it was designed to improve sail shape - I can't imagine what other > purpose would be served. As the boom moves out the bottom pivots up and the > net effect is that the direction of the sheet load is more on the underside > of the boom rather than at an angle. With the changing orientation of the > boom relative to the mast you could not use a rigid vang. I've not seen > this kind of swivel arrangement on any other rig. Some of those goosenecks were made for roller reefing of the main instead of slab reefing. Nobody uses roller furling anymore and the gooseneck can be converted to a fixed type. Some of them also slid on a heavy track allowing the gooseneck to move up and down with a downhaul. Fixed goosenecks use a Cunningham line for that purpose. The roller furling booms had end boom sheeting with a swivel arrangement there, as well. The full system had a crank and a gear set to turn the boom and roll up the main. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96

1973 CAL 2-27, (at least mine) td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Robert Andrew Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:18 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom The swivel allows the boom to pivot along its length. I can only presume that it was designed to improve sail shape - I can't imagine what other purpose would be served. As the boom moves out the bottom pivots up and the net effect is that the direction of the sheet load is more on the underside of the boom rather than at an angle. With the changing orientation of the boom relative to the mast you could not use a rigid vang. I've not seen this kind of swivel arrangement on any other rig. Bob Andrew From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pw… [at] aol.com Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:35 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom Bob - I plan on looking at a few Cal 39's in the next month or so. Are you saying that your gooseneck allows the boom to pivot side to side. Do you think it was designed as such to help improve sailshape as the the main is sheeted out or is there some other purpose for this design? Thanks - Paul West From: R. Andrew <rh… [at] cornell.edu> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:34 pm Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom Mike, actually my gooseneck is the swivel variety which precludes using any rigid vang. This was one of my reasons for thinking about a replacement. I don't think I'm in the market for a new mast, but I'm curious what that goes for - must be quite a bit. Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [ mailto:Cal_ <mailto:Cal_?> Bo… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "R. Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote: > > My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was > contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is the original, > now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I 'm sure > there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from members of > the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a similar > sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the expense? Any > suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations? I chose not to replace the 25 year old boom on my Cal 40 when I bought a new mast. It would have been another $1800 and I thought the old boom was OK for now. I may see about reworking the jammers for the reef lines, especially if we do a Transpac. For cruisjng alone, it probably isn't worth it as long as you have a fixed gooseneck and good sheet and vang arrangements. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 PS. My boom was not the original but was built in 1982, about 15 years after the boat was launched. > > > > Thanks to everyone, > > > > Bob Andrew > > Cal 39 Nereid > _____ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL <http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/index.htm?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000970> Mail! DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

If anyone wants one of those goosenecks with the gear arrangement and the mainsheet fitting with the swivel I have them on my Cal 40 and have been meaning to get rid of them for years. They match the Barient mechanical backstay adjuster and spinnaker pole adjuster on the mast well, though, and I like those. From: sentto-16485695-8933-1191856999-george.a.elwers=sa… [at] returns.groups.yahoo.com on behalf of mtkennedy1 Sent: Mon 10/8/2007 8:23 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , "Robert Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote: > > The swivel allows the boom to pivot along its length. I can only presume > that it was designed to improve sail shape - I can't imagine what other > purpose would be served. As the boom moves out the bottom pivots up and the > net effect is that the direction of the sheet load is more on the underside > of the boom rather than at an angle. With the changing orientation of the > boom relative to the mast you could not use a rigid vang. I've not seen > this kind of swivel arrangement on any other rig. Some of those goosenecks were made for roller reefing of the main instead of slab reefing. Nobody uses roller furling anymore and the gooseneck can be converted to a fixed type. Some of them also slid on a heavy track allowing the gooseneck to move up and down with a downhaul. Fixed goosenecks use a Cunningham line for that purpose. The roller furling booms had end boom sheeting with a swivel arrangement there, as well. The full system had a crank and a gear set to turn the boom and roll up the main. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96

swivel goosnecks can be "rigidized". Done two. Have a Garhauer rigid vang on my "rigidized" previously swivel boom. works great. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: rh… [at] cornell.eduDate: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:34:36 -0400Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom Mike, actually my gooseneck is the swivel variety which precludes using any rigid vang. This was one of my reasons for thinking about a replacement. I don’t think I’m in the market for a new mast, but I’m curious what that goes for – must be quite a bit. Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid -----Original Message-----From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mtkennedy1Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:11 PMTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "R. Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote:>> My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was> contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is the original,> now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I 'm sure> there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from members of> the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a similar> sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the expense? Any> suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations?I chose not to replace the 25 year old boom on my Cal 40 when I bought a new mast. It would have been another $1800 and I thought the old boom was OK for now. I may see about reworking the jammers for the reef lines, especially if we do a Transpac. For cruisjng alone, it probably isn't worth it as long as you have a fixed gooseneck and good sheet and vang arrangements.Mike KennedyConquest Cal 40 # 96PS. My boom was not the original but was built in 1982, about 15 years after the boat was launched.> > > > Thanks to everyone,> > > > Bob Andrew> > Cal 39 Nereid>

Why do people paint aluminum masts and booms? Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: mt… [at] cox.netDate: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 03:51:25 +0000Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "R. Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote:>> Mike, actually my gooseneck is the swivel variety which precludes using any> rigid vang. This was one of my reasons for thinking about a replacement. I> don't think I'm in the market for a new mast, but I'm curious what that goes> for - must be quite a bit.You can add a fixed gooseneck without a new mast. My mast was about $17,000 with the rod rigging. The boom was another $1800 and I decided to keep the old one. The new mast is a smaller section with an internal track and new spreaders. Still, if the old mast had been salvageable, I' d have thought very hard about the new one. It was peeling paint and needed new rigging. It would have been more expensive to refinish it. At least that was what I was told. I do think you need to replace rigging, especially rod rigging, every 10 years. You can't tell its condition by looking at it.Mike KennedyConquest Cal 40 # 96> > > > Bob Andrew> > Cal 39 Nereid > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf> Of mtkennedy1> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:11 PM> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom> > > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "R.> Andrew" <rha9@> wrote:> >> > My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was> > contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is the> original,> > now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I 'm sure> > there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from members of> > the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a similar> > sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the expense? Any> > suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations?> > I chose not to replace the 25 year old boom on my Cal 40 when I bought a new> mast. It > would have been another $1800 and I thought the old boom was OK for now. I> may see > about reworking the jammers for the reef lines, especially if we do a> Transpac. For > cruisjng alone, it probably isn't worth it as long as you have a fixed> gooseneck and good > sheet and vang arrangements.> > Mike Kennedy> Conquest Cal 40 # 96> > PS. My boom was not the original but was built in 1982, about 15 years after> the boat was > launched.> > > > > > > > > Thanks to everyone,> > > > > > > > Bob Andrew> > > > Cal 39 Nereid> >>

Reggie, how was this accomplished exactly? Bob Andrew From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:52 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom swivel goosnecks can be "rigidized". Done two. Have a Garhauer rigid vang on my "rigidized" previously swivel boom. works great. Reggie _____ To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: rh… [at] cornell.edu Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:34:36 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom Mike, actually my gooseneck is the swivel variety which precludes using any rigid vang. This was one of my reasons for thinking about a replacement. I don't think I'm in the market for a new mast, but I'm curious what that goes for - must be quite a bit. Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "R. Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote: > > My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was > contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is the original, > now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I 'm sure > there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from members of > the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a similar > sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the expense? Any > suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations? I chose not to replace the 25 year old boom on my Cal 40 when I bought a new mast. It would have been another $1800 and I thought the old boom was OK for now. I may see about reworking the jammers for the reef lines, especially if we do a Transpac. For cruisjng alone, it probably isn't worth it as long as you have a fixed gooseneck and good sheet and vang arrangements. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 PS. My boom was not the original but was built in 1982, about 15 years after the boat was launched. > > > > Thanks to everyone, > > > > Bob Andrew > > Cal 39 Nereid >

remove gooseneck end casting from boom. drill through casting and gooseneck pin insert appropriate sized drift pin reinstall casting to boom that's the short version. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: rh… [at] cornell.eduDate: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:41:15 -0400Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom - rigidized boom Reggie, how was this accomplished exactly? Bob Andrew -----Original Message-----From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r goodSent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:52 PMTo: ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom swivel goosnecks can be "rigidized". Done two. Have a Garhauer rigid vang on my "rigidized" previously swivel boom. works great.Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: rh… [at] cornell.eduDate: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:34:36 -0400Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom Mike, actually my gooseneck is the swivel variety which precludes using any rigid vang. This was one of my reasons for thinking about a replacement. I don’t think I’m in the market for a new mast, but I’m curious what that goes for – must be quite a bit. Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid -----Original Message-----From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mtkennedy1Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:11 PMTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "R. Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote:>> My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was> contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is the original,> now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I 'm sure> there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from members of> the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a similar> sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the expense? Any> suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations?I chose not to replace the 25 year old boom on my Cal 40 when I bought a new mast. It would have been another $1800 and I thought the old boom was OK for now. I may see about reworking the jammers for the reef lines, especially if we do a Transpac. For cruisjng alone, it probably isn't worth it as long as you have a fixed gooseneck and good sheet and vang arrangements.Mike KennedyConquest Cal 40 # 96PS. My boom was not the original but was built in 1982, about 15 years after the boat was launched.> > > > Thanks to everyone,> > > > Bob Andrew> > Cal 39 Nereid>

Making the goose neck fixed sounds good for my situation as well. when I jiffy reef, the boom rotates at the goose neck causing the reefing lines to chafe and hang-up on the turning blocks. Mark Cal 2-29 San Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: r good To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:39 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom - rigidized boom remove gooseneck end casting from boom. drill through casting and gooseneck pin insert appropriate sized drift pin reinstall casting to boom that's the short version. Reggie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: rh… [at] cornell.edu Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:41:15 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom - rigidized boom Reggie, how was this accomplished exactly? Bob Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:52 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom swivel goosnecks can be "rigidized". Done two. Have a Garhauer rigid vang on my "rigidized" previously swivel boom. works great. Reggie -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: rh… [at] cornell.edu Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:34:36 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom Mike, actually my gooseneck is the swivel variety which precludes using any rigid vang. This was one of my reasons for thinking about a replacement. I don’t think I’m in the market for a new mast, but I’m curious what that goes for – must be quite a bit. Bob Andrew Cal 39 Nereid -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:11 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 39 replacement boom --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "R. Andrew" <rha9@...> wrote: > > My Cal 39 is ready for a new mainsail. Before going ahead I was > contemplating whether I should first replace the boom which is the original, > now 30 years old. The newer ones appear to be much lighter and I 'm sure > there have been other improvements as well. Any thoughts from members of > the list would be appreciated - has anyone replaced the boom on a similar > sized Cal? Have you been happy with the result? Worth the expense? Any > suggestions on suppliers and boom configurations? I chose not to replace the 25 year old boom on my Cal 40 when I bought a new mast. It would have been another $1800 and I thought the old boom was OK for now. I may see about reworking the jammers for the reef lines, especially if we do a Transpac. For cruisjng alone, it probably isn't worth it as long as you have a fixed gooseneck and good sheet and vang arrangements. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 PS. My boom was not the original but was built in 1982, about 15 years after the boat was launched. > > > > Thanks to everyone, > > > > Bob Andrew > > Cal 39 Nereid >