4 messages2007-10-13 02:35 UTCthrough 2007-10-13 13:57
Cal 39 Deck Wetness
pw… [at] aol.com2007-10-13 02:35 UTC
We are going to look at a Cal 39 in two weeks that we have been told has some
wetness in the decks around the genoa tracks and the possibly the
chainplates. The broker is going to try to obtain the surveyors report, if one exists,
to send to me. Is there any reason to be especially alarmed by this other than
the normal level of alertness? By that I mean on some boats the wetness
travels a lot further than on other boats due to the nature of the construction
and the type of wood used.
Also, this boat has had a lead bulb added to the already deep draft keel for
extra stiffness and naturally it now weighs quite a bit more than the stock
boat. Does anyone online have any knowledge of this boat and it's history? The
boat's name is now Magic but I don't know if or how many times it has been
changed. The broker said that the previous, previous owner raced the boat and
had it added on. The draft is still 6'-8" fotunately.
Thanks again for all your help -
Paul West
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Re: Cal 39 Deck Wetness
mtkennedy12007-10-13 05:00
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, pwestla@... wrote:
>
> We are going to look at a Cal 39 in two weeks that we have been told has some
> wetness in the decks around the genoa tracks and the possibly the
> chainplates. The broker is going to try to obtain the surveyors report, if one exists,
> to send to me. Is there any reason to be especially alarmed by this other than
> the normal level of alertness? By that I mean on some boats the wetness
> travels a lot further than on other boats due to the nature of the construction
> and the type of wood used.
I would be leery of a wet deck. The way to test this is to cut a hole from below and see how
much rot there is. It could be a big job. I think there is a way to test using a meter but the
surveyor would know about this.
Mike Kennedy
'Conquest Cal 40 #96
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Deck Wetness
Sail Away2007-10-13 11:52 UTC
I bought a 1986 Pearson P36-2 last year that had very wet decks at the stanchion bases as well as sever wetness along the Genoa track. The surveyor used a water meter that was very accurate as to the severity and location of the wet areas. I negotiated the price downwards from the original asking with the intentions to recore the decks. I brought a fiberglass guy with me on my final inspection to give me a ballpark estimate as to the entire cost of the project. I cut the decks off from the top (wife and I did demo) and recored about 25+ feet on both sides leading forward from the cockpit using NidaCore rather than a wood product. Then had the original non-skid pattern put back on and professionally painted.
It was a BIG job, however;
1- The boat was exactly what wife and I were looking for
2- The cost of the same boat with 20-year old original wood decks (with inherent moisture) would cost me
about $10,000 - $15,000 more than what I paid inclusive of the recore job cost
3- Now I have new decks that will never get internally wet
4- Stanchion bases are ontop of solid fiberglass core
5- After all upgrades (i.e. - new electronics, engine mounts, hoses, rebuilt starter and alternator, new roller
furling, new running rigging (almost all), new stuffing box and cutlass plus more) I am still a bit less into
this boat than the cost would have been for another similar model with 20-year old decks and older
components.
Trust me, this job is not for the faint of heart, however it worked for us as wife and I enjoy working on things and we intend to keep this boat for a long time. Now we have a great boat with great dry decks!
If you would like to see pictures or want any information, just ask
Good Luck
Greg
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Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Deck Wetness
We are going to look at a Cal 39 in two weeks that we have been told has some wetness in the decks around the genoa tracks and the possibly the chainplates. The broker is going to try to obtain the surveyors report, if one exists, to send to me. Is there any reason to be especially alarmed by this other than the normal level of alertness? By that I mean on some boats the wetness travels a lot further than on other boats due to the nature of the construction and the type of wood used.
Also, this boat has had a lead bulb added to the already deep draft keel for extra stiffness and naturally it now weighs quite a bit more than the stock boat. Does anyone online have any knowledge of this boat and it's history? The boat's name is now Magic but I don't know if or how many times it has been changed. The broker said that the previous, previous owner raced the boat and had it added on. The draft is still 6'-8" fotunately.
Thanks again for all your help -
Paul West
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Re: Cal 39 Deck Wetness
mtkennedy12007-10-13 13:57
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Sail Away <Svadas4@...> wrote:
>
> I bought a 1986 Pearson P36-2 last year that had very wet decks at the stanchion bases
as well as sever wetness along the Genoa track. The surveyor used a water meter that was
very accurate as to the severity and location of the wet areas. I negotiated the price
downwards from the original asking with the intentions to recore the decks. I brought a
fiberglass guy with me on my final inspection to give me a ballpark estimate as to the
entire cost of the project. I cut the decks off from the top (wife and I did demo) and
recored about 25+ feet on both sides leading forward from the cockpit using NidaCore
rather than a wood product. Then had the original non-skid pattern put back on and
professionally painted.
>
> It was a BIG job, however;
That is a great story. I looked at a Cal 43 with wet decks before I bought the 40. It was on
the east coast and I thought about doing what you did. The guy donated it rather than
come down enough in price to be worthwhile and I was still faint of heart at the prospect.
Congratulations. Big areas like that that cross bulkheads and other internal structures are
better done from the top but getting the nonskid right is difficult. You should put those
pictures online somewhere so another guy with a project boat can see them.
Mike Kennedy
Conquest Cal 40 # 96