cal 20 parting out seattle

hey there. lost my keel on my little cal 20. with little hope of obtaining a replacement keel i have decided to send it to the shredder. so i will be stripping everything off the boat. also sails and a nice spinnaker will be available. mahagony rudder, bow pulpit, hand rails. lines etc. if you would like to purchase any items for your cal 20 give me a call at 206-447-7021 or write to me at westsailjim@yahoo.

Hey Jim, I might have a keel for you if you'd rather. Cost - get rid of the rest of the boat (completely shot and stripped fiberglass hull, useable spars, a few other parts including damaged but usable mahogany rudder). Let me know and I'll make sure it's still around - I'm sort-of the owner but I had previously told the owner of the land it's sitting on he was free to dispose of it if he found a good opportunity. On Oct 16, 2007, at 2:20 PM, jim g. wrote: > hey there. lost my keel on my little cal 20. with little hope of > obtaining a replacement keel i have decided to send it to the > shredder. > so i will be stripping everything off the boat. also sails and a nice > spinnaker will be available. mahagony rudder, bow pulpit, hand rails. > lines etc. if you would like to purchase any items for your cal 20 > give me a call at 206-447-7021 or write to me at westsailjim@yahoo. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > -- Matt Beland ma… [at] rearviewmirror.org

pardon me, but....... just where in Seattle is this wonderful Cal-20 that no buddy wants??? fiver..... ********************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Matt Beland <matt@...> wrote: > > Hey Jim, I might have a keel for you if you'd rather. Cost - get rid > of the rest of the boat (completely shot and stripped fiberglass > hull, useable spars, a few other parts including damaged but usable > mahogany rudder). > > Let me know and I'll make sure it's still around - I'm sort-of the > owner but I had previously told the owner of the land it's sitting on > he was free to dispose of it if he found a good opportunity. > > On Oct 16, 2007, at 2:20 PM, jim g. wrote: > > > hey there. lost my keel on my little cal 20. with little hope of > > obtaining a replacement keel i have decided to send it to the > > shredder. > > so i will be stripping everything off the boat. also sails and a nice > > spinnaker will be available. mahagony rudder, bow pulpit, hand rails. > > lines etc. if you would like to purchase any items for your cal 20 > > give me a call at 206-447-7021 or write to me at westsailjim@yahoo. > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- > Matt Beland > matt@... >

On Tuesday 16 October 2007 08:29:56 pm slickbutfoxbuger wrote: > pardon me, but....... > > just where in Seattle is this wonderful Cal-20 that no buddy wants??? Camano Island, call it 50 miles north and a bit to the west. No, that's Whidbey you're thinking of; Camano is smaller and tucked between Whidbey and the eastern shore of the Sound. When I say useless fiberglass hull, I'm not kidding. Repairs would require completely cutting off and replacing about 20% of the hull at the bow. Every useful part has been stripped off - some of the Cal 20 specific parts remain, but not attached to the hull. And the spars are in good shape - a black-anodized mast and a plain aluminum boom - but the rest of the rigging is shot and/or missing. The keel is somewhat pitted but intact and already separated from the hull. I put a lot of work into this boat before discovering that the hull was beyond repair; major impact damage poorly repaired on the nose and stress fractures into the laminate back at the end of the vberth. (Unlike SOME unloyal Cal owners, I "jumped ship" into a Cal 25 instead of some silly "other" manufacturer...) For this precise situation - someone with a Cal 20 close by that could use the parts for repairs and spares - it's perfect, and I'd rather that person have it for the use they could make of it. For anything else, save perhaps the backup "but I don't WANT to cut it up into chunks for a landfill" plan of turning it into a playground for kids, it's useless. You would be better off by far building one from scratch. The only reason this hull isn't already in a landfill is because it's not hurting or costing anything where it is and I had some lingering hope of finding a more honorable end to her bones. -- Matt Beland ma… [at] rearviewmirror.org

HUZZAH! Matt Beland wrote: >(Unlike SOME unloyal Cal owners, I "jumped ship" into a Cal 25 >instead of some silly "other" manufacturer...) >

Matt, sounds like your enemies wouldn't even want it, much less your buddies. :- ] Some valuable parts are glas parts made for the boat that are not easy to reproduce (e.g., slider hatch, hatch covers). Now about that CAL 25... How is it doing? Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Beland Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:49 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 20 parting out seattle On Tuesday 16 October 2007 08:29:56 pm slickbutfoxbuger wrote: > pardon me, but....... > > just where in Seattle is this wonderful Cal-20 that no buddy wants??? Camano Island, call it 50 miles north and a bit to the west. No, that's Whidbey you're thinking of; Camano is smaller and tucked between Whidbey and the eastern shore of the Sound. When I say useless fiberglass hull, I'm not kidding. Repairs would require completely cutting off and replacing about 20% of the hull at the bow. Every useful part has been stripped off -some of the Cal 20 specific parts remain, but not attached to the hull. And the spars are in good shape - a black-anodized mast and a plain aluminum boom - but the rest of the rigging is shot and/or missing. The keel is somewhat pitted but intact and already separated from the hull. I put a lot of work into this boat before discovering that the hull was beyond repair; major impact damage poorly repaired on the nose and stress fractures into the laminate back at the end of the vberth. (Unlike SOME unloyal Cal owners, I "jumped ship" into a Cal 25 instead of some silly "other" manufacturer...) For this precise situation - someone with a Cal 20 close by that could use the parts for repairs and spares - it's perfect, and I'd rather that person have it for the use they could make of it. For anything else, save perhaps the backup "but I don't WANT to cut it up into chunks for a landfill" plan of turning it into a playground for kids, it's useless. You would be better off by far building one from scratch. The only reason this hull isn't already in a landfill is because it's not hurting or costing anything where it is and I had some lingering hope of finding a more honorable end to her bones. -- Matt Beland ma… [at] rearviewmirror.org Yahoo! Groups Links

Matt Beland wrote: > > Every > useful part has been stripped off - some of the Cal 20 specific parts > remain, > but not attached to the hull. > Matt: I'm looking around for a pair of the original-style bronze hinge from the forward hatch, to use on another boat. Do those remain? And oooh...a black anodized mast...if you weren't so far away, I'd be there in an instant. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220, the lovely /Martha C/

so, you gonna take that guy up on his offer of the keel???? I hope so. I hate seeing these boats cut up. Best, Marsh jim g. wrote: >hey there. lost my keel on my little cal 20. with little hope of >obtaining a replacement keel i have decided to send it to the shredder. >so i will be stripping everything off the boat. also sails and a nice >spinnaker will be available. mahagony rudder, bow pulpit, hand rails. >lines etc. if you would like to purchase any items for your cal 20 >give me a call at 206-447-7021 or write to me at westsailjim@yahoo. > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

whoops meant that to be offlist... what I get... AM is for sleeping, PM is for working. Marsh Wise wrote: > so, you gonna take that guy up on his offer of the keel???? I hope so. > I hate seeing these boats cut up. > Best, Marsh > > jim g. wrote: > >>hey there. lost my keel on my little cal 20. with little hope of >>obtaining a replacement keel i have decided to send it to the shredder. >>so i will be stripping everything off the boat. also sails and a nice >>spinnaker will be available. mahagony rudder, bow pulpit, hand rails. >>lines etc. if you would like to purchase any items for your cal 20 >>give me a call at 206-447-7021 or write to me at westsailjim@yahoo. >> >> >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > >-- >Marsh Wise >Webmaster: >-reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ >-Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ >-Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ >- 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> > >Assistant Webmaster: >-VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ > >Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) >-LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ > >Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze > >Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze > >Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt > >Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain > >*Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? >Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now! > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

On Wednesday 17 October 2007 03:42:02 am Husar, Charlie [USA] wrote: > Matt, sounds like your enemies wouldn't even want it, much less your > buddies. :- ] Pretty much. <grin> As I said, the expected ends were either landfill or - maybe - she could be cleaned, painted, set in a sandbox and given a fake rig for kids to climb on. The only exception is the case where someone else is thinking of parting out their Cal 20 because of a missing major component that happens to be fine on this boat. > Some valuable parts are glas parts made for the boat that are not easy > to reproduce (e.g., slider hatch, hatch covers). A few of those are already gone to other Cal 20s, most no one was interested in when I offered them earlier for the cost of shipping. This is an "older" (hull #1394) California-built Cal 20 with the "skylight" in place of the forward hatch (solid fiberglass, no gelcoat) and single lazarette. > Now about that CAL 25... How is it doing? Fine. Firecracker, Cal 25-1 (outboard model) #1194, moored in Port of Everett Marina, member of Milltown Sailing Association, sails regularly. Needs new sails, could use some new running rigging, other little details, but otherwise she's in good shape. -- Matt Beland ma… [at] rearviewmirror.org

Marsh Wise wrote: > > so, you gonna take that guy up on his offer of the keel???? I hope so. > I hate seeing these boats cut up. > Best, Marsh > I agree with Marsh. These boats are in limited supply. They're not making any more. Each one that gets cut up is one fewer great boat for people to sail and have fun on. It's a cheap way to enjoy sailing on a boat that performs well. Here you have an opportunity to combine two boats into one, where otherwise we're going to see two fewer Cal 20s. Say yes to the keel, hang it on your good hull, and enjoy the Cal 20. Or sell it at low cost to some newbie who wants to sail but doesn't have the bucks for a big shiny Benehunter. Chris Campbell

well; my mommy says no! i can't have it tell i get my boat floating again.... <stomps foot!....> <pout, pout.....> ********************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Chris Campbell <clcampbell@...> wrote: > > Marsh Wise wrote: > > > > so, you gonna take that guy up on his offer of the keel???? I hope so. > > I hate seeing these boats cut up. > > Best, Marsh > > > > > > > > I agree with Marsh. These boats are in limited supply. They're not > making any more. Each one that gets cut up is one fewer great boat for > people to sail and have fun on. It's a cheap way to enjoy sailing on a > boat that performs well. Here you have an opportunity to combine two > boats into one, where otherwise we're going to see two fewer Cal 20s. > Say yes to the keel, hang it on your good hull, and enjoy the Cal 20. > Or sell it at low cost to some newbie who wants to sail but doesn't have > the bucks for a big shiny Benehunter. > > Chris Campbell >

--- hi matt thanks for the info. i think at this time it would be a job for someone else i am unable to start a rekeel project. now if someone else wanted to take on that project that would be great. the boat floats fine and in fact is still moored at shilshole marina in seattle. we are renting a trailer next week to dispose of the boat. i think the boat will exist till thursday. jim guettler 206-447-7021 Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Matt Beland <matt@...> wrote: > > Hey Jim, I might have a keel for you if you'd rather. Cost - get rid > of the rest of the boat (completely shot and stripped fiberglass > hull, useable spars, a few other parts including damaged but usable > mahogany rudder). > > Let me know and I'll make sure it's still around - I'm sort-of the > owner but I had previously told the owner of the land it's sitting on > he was free to dispose of it if he found a good opportunity. > > On Oct 16, 2007, at 2:20 PM, jim g. wrote: > > > hey there. lost my keel on my little cal 20. with little hope of > > obtaining a replacement keel i have decided to send it to the > > shredder. > > so i will be stripping everything off the boat. also sails and a nice > > spinnaker will be available. mahagony rudder, bow pulpit, hand rails. > > lines etc. if you would like to purchase any items for your cal 20 > > give me a call at 206-447-7021 or write to me at westsailjim@yahoo. > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- > Matt Beland > matt@... >

moored at shilshole marina in seattle. it's name is Salley and supposedly was a canadian built cal 20.