Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 9.2

Charlie, the 9.2 was the only Ron Holland designed CAL. She was actually a "re-badged" Jeanneau boat, at the time Bangor Punta was in some form of partnership with Jeanneau, which also produced the O'DAY 39 (Jeanneau SUN FIZZ) later modified to become the O'DAY 40, and the Ranger FUN (23') . The C. Raymond Hunt Associates designed CALs (actual designer was John Deknatel, Principle Designer for Hunt Associates) were the CAL 22, CAL 24 (1983-85), CAL 28 (1985-89), CAL 33 (1985-89, 91), CAL 39 (1987-89), CAL 44, and CAL 50 (not sure if any CAL 50's were built, but the design did exist). These boats should not be confused with the earlier Lapworth boats of the same length designations, CAL 24, CAL 2-24, CAL T/4 (24'), CAL 28 ("flat top"), CAL 33, and CAL 39, 39 (MK II), 3-39 also know as 39 MK III. Rod Johnson, "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21, #285 On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:31:13 -0400 "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <hu… [at] bah.com> writes: Hi, Fiver. Two different boats. There are both a Hunt CAL 28 and a Hunt CAL 9.2. The 9.2 is a metric (became all the rage to measure that way), so she is a skosh over 30 feet. With that said, I have no idea what the ballast is. Timmo will nail this one. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of slickbutfoxbuger Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:12 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 9.2 if you are talking about the newer Cal-28; i believe it is 3150 lb's..... fiver ************************ --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "caribgt" <caribgt@...> wrote: > > I am considering buying a cal 9.2. I know that this is one of the few > cals that is not a Lapworth design and thus my question. Can anyone > tell me what the ballast is on this boat. I have found sites showing > specs, but there is no mention of ballast lbs. I found one for sale > with a 5.7ft keel that listed a ballast of 2730 lbs, however the boat > I am looking at has a 4.7ft keel. I am concerned that this light disp > boat would only have a spade keel with no other ballast than the > weight of the keel itself (in other words no low lead ballast). > > My related question is stability/strength of the boat for cruising on > Lake Erie, and possibly the Caribbean. > > Thanks, > Gerry > Yahoo! Groups Links Messages in this topic (0) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 1

Actually the Cal 9.2 is 9.13765 meters long.. or 29' 11.75" We raced MORA (Midget Ocean Racing Association) when all boats had to be less than 30' The Cal 9.2 was at the rule maximum... with the transom bobbed just at the end to make the measurement. As drawn with the extended lip (> 30'... by a wee bit) As fabricated with the bobbed tail ~ 1-2" for MORA < 30' From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 5:25 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 9.2 Hi, Fiver. Two different boats. There are both a Hunt CAL 28 and a H olland CAL 9.2. The 9.2 is a metric (became all the rage to measure that way), so she is a skosh over 30 feet. With that said, I have no idea what the ballast is. Timmo will nail this one. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of slickbutfoxbuger Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:12 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 9.2 if you are talking about the newer Cal-28; i believe it is 3150 lb's..... fiver ************************ --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , "caribgt" <caribgt@...> wrote: > > I am considering buying a cal 9.2. I know that this is one of the few > cals that is not a Lapworth design and thus my question. Can anyone > tell me what the ballast is on this boat. I have found sites showing > specs, but there is no mention of ballast lbs. I found one for sale > with a 5.7ft keel that listed a ballast of 2730 lbs, however the boat > I am looking at has a 4.7ft keel. I am concerned that this light disp > boat would only have a spade keel with no other ballast than the > weight of the keel itself (in other words no low lead ballast). > > My related question is stability/strength of the boat for cruising on > Lake Erie, and possibly the Caribbean. > > Thanks, > Gerry > Yahoo! Groups Links Messages in this topic <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/message/9119;_ylc=X3oDMTM1OTVuc zN1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZ AM5MTIyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE5Mjg3OTg4MwR0cGNJZAM5MTE5> (0) Reply (via web post) <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMzJzMjJwBF9TA zk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM5MTIyB HNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE5Mjg3OTg4Mw--?act=reply&messageNum=912 2> | Start a new topic <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYmltaHV1BF9TA zk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsa wNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzExOTI4Nzk4ODM-> Recent Activity * 1

Picky, picky, picky. I'm thinking that on a cold day the last two digits of your precision go away. I'm sure she puckers a little. My apologies to Mr. Holland. Ahh, which leads me to a new discussion. One can be precise without being accurate. Like LORAN. Stay tuned. By the way, I always wondered why the backstay on a CAL 2-30 goes to the back of the keel. It attaches in the square on dEmO's photo. Where the scutcheon or plimble or whatever the hell it is is at the base of the stern. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ti… [at] ch2m.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 7:49 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 9.2 Actually the Cal 9.2 is 9.13765 meters long.. or 29' 11.75" We raced MORA (Midget Ocean Racing Association) when all boats had to be less than 30' The Cal 9.2 was at the rule maximum... with the transom bobbed just at the end to make the measurement. As drawn with the extended lip (> 30'... by a wee bit) As fabricated with the bobbed tail ~ 1-2" for MORA < 30' From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 5:25 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 9.2 Hi, Fiver. Two different boats. There are both a Hunt CAL 28 and a H olland CAL 9.2. The 9.2 is a metric (became all the rage to measure that way), so she is a skosh over 30 feet. With that said, I have no idea what the ballast is. Timmo will nail this one. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of slickbutfoxbuger Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:12 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 9.2 if you are talking about the newer Cal-28; i believe it is 3150 lb's..... fiver ************************ --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , "caribgt" <caribgt@...> wrote: > > I am considering buying a cal 9.2. I know that this is one of the few > cals that is not a Lapworth design and thus my question. Can anyone > tell me what the ballast is on this boat. I have found sites showing > specs, but there is no mention of ballast lbs. I found one for sale > with a 5.7ft keel that listed a ballast of 2730 lbs, however the boat > I am looking at has a 4.7ft keel. I am concerned that this light disp > boat would only have a spade keel with no other ballast than the > weight of the keel itself (in other words no low lead ballast). > > My related question is stability/strength of the boat for cruising on > Lake Erie, and possibly the Caribbean. > > Thanks, > Gerry > Yahoo! Groups Links Messages in this topic <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/message/9119;_ylc=X3oDMTM1OTVuc zN1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZ AM5MTIyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE5Mjg3OTg4MwR0cGNJZAM5MTE5> (0) Reply (via web post) <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMzJzMjJwBF9TA zk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM5MTIyB HNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE5Mjg3OTg4Mw--?act=reply&messageNum=912 2> | Start a new topic <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYmltaHV1BF9TA zk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsa wNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzExOTI4Nzk4ODM-> Recent Activity * 1