Re: SAIL Magazine: Cruisers you can race

Re: SAIL Magazine: Cruisers you can race

37 messages2007-06-18 15:13 UTCthrough 2007-10-22 13:33 UTC

Re: SAIL Magazine: Cruisers you can race

Alfred Poor2007-06-18 15:13 UTC
Jon raised the question. >Which begs the question, Alfred, of what the intrepid crew of Pentaquod will be sailing next? Ah. there's the rub. I'm not ready to reveal the answer to this question yet, but let me put it this way; I'm not bothering to bring my foulies to the Good Old Boat Regatta this year, as I'm sure that the tar and feathers will surely keep me warm and dry. (I just got back from 10 days on the beach in North Carolina, which is why this reply was so delayed.) Alfred Poor Still owner of 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod"

RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: SAIL Magazine: Cruisers you can race

Downing, Thomas2007-06-18 15:25 UTC
A TARTAN?? From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Alfred Poor Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:14 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: SAIL Magazine: Cruisers you can race Jon raised the question... >Which begs the question, Alfred, of what the intrepid crew of Pentaquod will be sailing next? Ah... there's the rub. I'm not ready to reveal the answer to this question yet, but let me put it this way; I'm not bothering to bring my foulies to the Good Old Boat Regatta this year, as I'm sure that the tar and feathers will surely keep me warm and dry. (I just got back from 10 days on the beach in North Carolina, which is why this reply was so delayed.) Alfred Poor Still owner of 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod" DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

The Sordid Truth Comes Out

aepoor2007-10-16 13:30
Last spring, the exchange below happened on this list, and I did not answer Thomas's prescient response. Now that I have survived the Good Old Boat Regatta, the cat is out of the bag - so to speak - and I will come clean to the list. Due to the repairs that Pentaquod, and our collective desire for a larger boat (my partner's girls are growing up and he wants room to bring their friends along for a sail or overnight), we decided to sell Pentaquod. (She's still for sale, by the way.) And yes, we replaced it with... a 1973 Tartan 34C, now renamed "Jambalaya". It's an Olin Stephens design, with Lapworth- worthy lines. The big feature for us is the centerboard; 8 feet plus with it down, but only 3' 11" with it raised, which makes navigating the northern Chesapeake (including our home port Bohemia River) a lot easier. I admit to taking some body blows by the Cal community at the GOBR, but distribution of Dark and Stormys seemed to buy me some forgiveness (not to mention being embraced by my new friends, the Tartan clan). So I now have a foot in both the Cal and Tartan worlds, and am monitoring both lists. I expect I'll continue to participate in the Cal community even after Pentaquod gets sold (if I'm not blackballed for my treasonous behavior), as I have too many good friends here. Fair winds to all, Alfred Poor 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod" 1973 Tartan 34C #288, "Jambalaya" --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@...> wrote: > > A TARTAN?? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alfred Poor > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:14 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: SAIL Magazine: Cruisers you can race > > > > > > > Jon raised the question... > > > > >Which begs the question, Alfred, of what the intrepid crew of Pentaquod will be sailing next? > > > > Ah... there's the rub. I'm not ready to reveal the answer to this question yet, but let me put it this way; I'm not bothering to bring my foulies to the Good Old Boat Regatta this year, as I'm sure that the tar and feathers will surely keep me warm and dry. > > > > (I just got back from 10 days on the beach in North Carolina, which is why this reply was so delayed.) > > > > Alfred Poor > > Still owner of 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod"

RE: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out

David W. Owen2007-10-16 15:40 UTC
I will personally forgive you this, so long as you continue to post from time to time with your Cal Family. Also expect a Dark and Stormy on that day when I finally explore the Chesapeake. Regards, David Wilkie Owen Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of aepoor Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:31 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out Last spring, the exchange below happened on this list, and I did not answer Thomas's prescient response. Now that I have survived the Good Old Boat Regatta, the cat is out of the bag - so to speak - and I will come clean to the list. Due to the repairs that Pentaquod, and our collective desire for a larger boat (my partner's girls are growing up and he wants room to bring their friends along for a sail or overnight), we decided to sell Pentaquod. (She's still for sale, by the way.) And yes, we replaced it with... a 1973 Tartan 34C, now renamed "Jambalaya". It's an Olin Stephens design, with Lapworth- worthy lines. The big feature for us is the centerboard; 8 feet plus with it down, but only 3' 11" with it raised, which makes navigating the northern Chesapeake (including our home port Bohemia River) a lot easier. I admit to taking some body blows by the Cal community at the GOBR, but distribution of Dark and Stormys seemed to buy me some forgiveness (not to mention being embraced by my new friends, the Tartan clan). So I now have a foot in both the Cal and Tartan worlds, and am monitoring both lists. I expect I'll continue to participate in the Cal community even after Pentaquod gets sold (if I'm not blackballed for my treasonous behavior), as I have too many good friends here. Fair winds to all, Alfred Poor 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod" 1973 Tartan 34C #288, "Jambalaya" --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , "Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@...> wrote: > > A TARTAN?? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > ] On Behalf Of Alfred Poor > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:14 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: SAIL Magazine: Cruisers you can race > > > > > > > Jon raised the question... > > > > >Which begs the question, Alfred, of what the intrepid crew of Pentaquod will be sailing next? > > > > Ah... there's the rub. I'm not ready to reveal the answer to this question yet, but let me put it this way; I'm not bothering to bring my foulies to the Good Old Boat Regatta this year, as I'm sure that the tar and feathers will surely keep me warm and dry. > > > > (I just got back from 10 days on the beach in North Carolina, which is why this reply was so delayed.) > > > > Alfred Poor > > Still owner of 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod"

RE: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out (Alfred)

Elwers, George A.2007-10-16 16:02 UTC
Move we make Jambalaya an honorary Cal to keep Alfred on the list. Do I hear a second? From: sentto-16485695-9015-1192541460-george.a.elwers=sa… [at] returns.groups.yahoo.com on behalf of aepoor Sent: Tue 10/16/2007 6:30 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out And yes, we replaced it with... a 1973 Tartan 34C, now renamed "Jambalaya". It's an Olin Stephens design, with Lapworth- worthy lines. <clip> I expect I'll continue to participate in the Cal community even after Pentaquod gets sold (if I'm not blackballed for my treasonous behavior), as I have too many good friends here. Fair winds to all, Alfred Poor 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod" 1973 Tartan 34C #288, "Jambalaya" Recent Activity * 3 New Members <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJnb2gzZ2ozBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMTkyNTQxNDYx> Visit Your Group <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMzl1MmQ3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzExOTI1NDE0NjE-> Y! Sports for TV Game Day Companion <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12jbummot/M=493064.10729671.11699924.9977693/D=groups/S=1705065792:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1192548661/A=4767086/R=0/SIG=127rhacnf/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49017/*http://digitalhome.yahoo.com/sports> Live fantasy league & game stats on TV. Yahoo! News Fashion News <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12jl4r6ni/M=493064.10729659.11333350.8674578/D=groups/S=1705065792:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1192548661/A=3848621/R=0/SIG=12u6o6g3h/*http://news.yahoo.com/i/1597;_ylt=A9FJqa5Gxa5E2jgAYQKVEhkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA2MnU4czRtBHNlYwNzbg--> What's the word on fashion and style? Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12jd12pds/M=493064.10729649.11333340.8674578/D=groups/S=1705065792:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1192548661/A=4507179/R=0/SIG=12de4rskk/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=50284/*http://finance.yahoo.com/personal-finance> Guides, news, advice & more. .

RE: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out (Alfred)

Gerald Sobel2007-10-16 17:41 UTC
"A second her Majesty? There is no second!" But in dis case shure! Jerry "Elwers, George A." <ge… [at] saic.com> wrote: Move we make Jambalaya an honorary Cal to keep Alfred on the list. Do I hear a second? ________________________________ From: sentto-16485695-9015-1192541460-george.a.elwers=sa… [at] returns.groups.yahoo.com on behalf of aepoor Sent: Tue 10/16/2007 6:30 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out And yes, we replaced it with... a 1973 Tartan 34C, now renamed "Jambalaya". It's an Olin Stephens design, with Lapworth- worthy lines. <clip> I expect I'll continue to participate in the Cal community even after Pentaquod gets sold (if I'm not blackballed for my treasonous behavior), as I have too many good friends here. Fair winds to all, Alfred Poor 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod" 1973 Tartan 34C #288, "Jambalaya" Recent Activity * 3 New Members <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJnb2gzZ2ozBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMTkyNTQxNDYx> Visit Your Group <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMzl1MmQ3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzExOTI1NDE0NjE-> Y! Sports for TV Game Day Companion <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12jbummot/M=493064.10729671.11699924.9977693/D=groups/S=1705065792:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1192548661/A=4767086/R=0/SIG=127rhacnf/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49017/*http://digitalhome.yahoo.com/sports> Live fantasy league & game stats on TV. Yahoo! News Fashion News <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12jl4r6ni/M=493064.10729659.11333350.8674578/D=groups/S=1705065792:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1192548661/A=3848621/R=0/SIG=12u6o6g3h/*http://news.yahoo.com/i/1597;_ylt=A9FJqa5Gxa5E2jgAYQKVEhkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA2MnU4czRtBHNlYwNzbg--> What's the word on fashion and style? Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12jd12pds/M=493064.10729649.11333340.8674578/D=groups/S=1705065792:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1192548661/A=4507179/R=0/SIG=12de4rskk/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=50284/*http://finance.yahoo.com/personal-finance> Guides, news, advice & more. .

painting masts and booms

r good2007-10-16 17:53 UTC
I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie

Re: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms

Marsh Wise2007-10-16 18:09 UTC
it looks crappy otherwise? Mine has been painted w/ something, prob an old clear or what have you as it is now yellowish and you can see brush marks in it. Want something different... polish the mast all nice and shiney... THEN clear it :-0 I'm too lazy, but it'd be neat. r good wrote: > I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or > boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! > Reggie > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

RE: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out (Alfred)

Downing, Thomas2007-10-16 18:52 UTC
Well, if he had to go to a TARTAN! then a 34C is a good choice. At least I didn't jump to the Tartan - I went with an Aloha. Pity I can't race it in the GOBR :-( td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Gerald Sobel Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:41 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out (Alfred) "A second her Majesty? There is no second!" But in dis case shure! Jerry "Elwers, George A." <ge… [at] saic.com> wrote: Move we make Jambalaya an honorary Cal to keep Alfred on the list. Do I hear a second? From: sentto-16485695- <mailto:sentto-16485695-9015-1192541460-george.a.elwers%3Dsaic.com%40returns.groups.yahoo.com> 9015-1192541460-george.a.elwers=sa… [at] returns.groups.yahoo.com on behalf of aepoor Sent: Tue 10/16/2007 6:30 AM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out And yes, we replaced it with... a 1973 Tartan 34C, now renamed "Jambalaya". It's an Olin Stephens design, with Lapworth- worthy lines. <clip> I expect I'll continue to participate in the Cal community even after Pentaquod gets sold (if I'm not blackballed for my treasonous behavior), as I have too many good friends here. Fair winds to all, Alfred Poor 1969 Cal 29 #132, "Pentaquod" 1973 Tartan 34C #288, "Jambalaya" Recent Activity * 3 New Members < http://groups. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJnb2gzZ2ozBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMTkyNTQxNDYx> yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJnb2gzZ2ozBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMTkyNTQxNDYx> Visit Your Group < http://groups. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMzl1MmQ3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzExOTI1NDE0NjE-> yahoo.com/group/Cal_Boats;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMzl1MmQ3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzExOTI1NDE0NjE-> Y! Sports for TV Game Day Companion < http://us.ard. <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12jbummot/M=493064.10729671.11699924.9977693/D=groups/S=1705065792:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1192548661/A=4767086/R=0/SIG=127rhacnf/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49017/*http://digitalhome.yahoo.com/sports> yahoo.com/SIG=12jbummot/M=493064.10729671.11699924.9977693/D=groups/S=1705065792:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1192548661/A=4767086/R=0/SIG=127rhacnf/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49017/*http://digitalhome.yahoo.com/sports> Live fantasy league & game stats on TV. Yahoo! News Fashion News < http://us.ard. <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12jl4r6ni/M=493064.10729659.11333350.8674578/D=groups/S=1705065792:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1192548661/A=3848621/R=0/SIG=12u6o6g3h/*http://news.yahoo.com/i/1597;_ylt=A9FJqa5Gxa5E2jgAYQKVEhkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA2MnU4czRtBHNlYwNzbg--> yahoo.com/SIG=12jl4r6ni/M=493064.10729659.11333350.8674578/D=groups/S=1705065792:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1192548661/A=3848621/R=0/SIG=12u6o6g3h/*http://news.yahoo.com/i/1597;_ylt=A9FJqa5Gxa5E2jgAYQKVEhkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA2MnU4czRtBHNlYwNzbg--> What's the word on fashion and style? Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal < http://us.ard. <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12jd12pds/M=493064.10729649.11333340.8674578/D=groups/S=1705065792:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1192548661/A=4507179/R=0/SIG=12de4rskk/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=50284/*http://finance.yahoo.com/personal-finance> yahoo.com/SIG=12jd12pds/M=493064.10729649.11333340.8674578/D=groups/S=1705065792:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1192548661/A=4507179/R=0/SIG=12de4rskk/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=50284/*http://finance.yahoo.com/personal-finance> Guides, news, advice & more. . DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

RE: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out (Alfred)

Husar, Charlie [USA]2007-10-16 19:06 UTC
I think we are being too nice to Alfred. :- ] Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Downing, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:52 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out (Alfred) Well, if he had to go to a TARTAN! then a 34C is a good choice. At least I didn't jump to the Tartan - I went with an Aloha. Pity I can't race it in the GOBR :-( td -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Gerald Sobel Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:41 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out (Alfred) "A second her Majesty? There is no second!" But in dis case shure! Jerry "Elwers, George A." <ge… [at] saic.com> wrote: Move we make Jambalaya an honorary Cal to keep Alfred on the list. Do I hear a second? ________________________________ From: sentto-16485695-9015-1192541460-george.a.elwers=sa… [at] returns.groups. yahoo.com <mailto:sentto-16485695-9015-1192541460-george.a.elwers%3Dsaic.com%40ret urns.groups.yahoo.com> on behalf of aepoor Sent: Tue 10/16/2007 6:30 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] The Sordid Truth Comes Out And yes, we replaced it with... a 1973 Tartan 34C, now renamed "Jambalaya". It's an Olin Stephens design, with Lapworth- worthy lines. <clip> I expect I'll continue to participate in the Cal community even after Pentaquod gets sold (if I'm not blackballed for my treasonous behavior), as I have too many good friends here. 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Re: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms(reply)

Gerald Sobel2007-10-16 20:44 UTC
I painted my mast two years ago. I made the mistake of either...not getting the acid concoction rinsed off well enuf, or the rustoleum latex aluminum primer is incompatible with aluminum, as I now have areas of aluminum corrosion bubbling up from the aluminum, worse than ever. yech! Now I would advise against using any etch on the aluminum before painting it, be sure it is well washed and rinsed. I've seen plain high qualitiy latex house paint stick to aluminum extremely well. In some places the damn paint just wants to peel off everywhere it was painted on. Now I'm going to have to take the mast down and get rid of all the paint. Uggh! Jerry r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie ---------------------------------

Re: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms(reply)

Chris Campbell2007-10-16 21:20 UTC
Gerald Sobel wrote: > > I've seen plain high qualitiy latex house paint stick to aluminum > extremely well. > A long time ago I read that latex house paint sticks well to galvanized metal. I figured that aluminum wasn't far from zinc so I have used it on aluminum house trim with great success. Some time in the distant past, probably around 1965, my brothers were putting some new deck planks on the swimming raft. They laid them across the gunwales of the aluminum fishing boat and painted them yellow with oil-based house paint. Guess what's still there on the gunwales, 40+ years later, on a boat that's never been indoors. Of course, if we had wanted a yellow boat, you just know the paint would not have been tenacious. It only sticks where you don't want it to, or where your preparation has been inadequate. There must be a law describing this phenomenon. It applies with equal validity to that goop that passed for an interior finish on the Cal 20. Where it doesn't stick, it just flakes off, but where it doesn't flake, it's practically welded on. I'll add that the fishing boat, built in 1955, still has the factory grease-pencil marks on the exterior bow. Remarkable. Chris Campbell

RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms

Bruce Stirling2007-10-17 00:36 UTC
Mine was already painted when I bought it. Some paint is chipping off down low. But I noticed looking around the marina that a plain aluminum mast doesn't look as expensive as a painted one. Also, I've seen boats online with metal masts that are not the color of aluminum. maybe they are not even metal. They had a light brass color about them. Bare looking metal of some kind. Less maintenance on a bare aluminum. I was debating buying an old white can of Rustoleum and patching up the chipped spots. Once upon a time in college I worked at an old Standard Brands Paint Store in Tucson. Guess they were bought out by the Japanese in the '80s. Rustoleum was good stuff. I was in charge of spray paints, vinyl flooring, and something else. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:53 AM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --

RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms

Harleigh Ewell2007-10-17 03:19 UTC
Because it looks much better. H From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie _____

Re: painting masts and booms (Innovation)

slickbutfoxbuger2007-10-17 03:24
i really like fresh clean aluminum myself..... but then as i have to build an articulated mast using hydraulics, keeping the telephone pole nice and new looking won't be much of a problem on BB-54. however, for those who want a colorful mast; why not have it powder- coated? and then while you are about it; get an extruded aluminum tubular boom to go with it. a rectangle one. booms don't need to be round you know; they don't even need round corners on them. and if you just can't get your self to give up rounded edges on the bottom for safety or other reasons..... well, add some nice soft balsa, pine, or even impact-foam to fare the lower side a bit rounded for all you soft-headed old-timers out there. then get a large hole-saw out and start cutting large littering holes out of both sides of the boom to relieve strain and lighten the thing. on top, you can use a *Harken* small-boat traveler-track like they use for their full-batten main system..... Hot-Damn! this thing is a piece of work! and to think i was going to cut a piece of Cal-25 mast off to make a boom for BB-54.... this sounds soooo much lighter and stronger! will look like something out of the 22 century too! now that is *Innovation......* you Guys ota try it some time BB-54 *************************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Stirling" <bruce@...> wrote: > > Mine was already painted when I bought it. Some paint is chipping off down > low. But I noticed looking around the marina that a plain aluminum mast > doesn't look as expensive as a painted one. Also, I've seen boats online > with metal masts that are not the color of aluminum. maybe they are not > even metal. They had a light brass color about them. Bare looking metal of > some kind. Less maintenance on a bare aluminum. I was debating buying an > old white can of Rustoleum and patching up the chipped spots. Once upon a > time in college I worked at an old Standard Brands Paint Store in Tucson. > Guess they were bought out by the Japanese in the '80s. Rustoleum was good > stuff. I was in charge of spray paints, vinyl flooring, and something else. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of r good > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:53 AM > To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms > > > I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. > Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! > Reggie > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > -- >

RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms(bruce)

Gerald Sobel2007-10-17 04:14 UTC
Bruce, What ever you do I do not recommend using the Rustoleum latex primer and then painting it over with one part epoxy. Were ever I did that the paint came off in thick chips, yeech! What I actually did was paint the whole mast with Rustoleum primer, and I've found that it didn't adhere well, infact, easily chiped or rubbed off wear anything rubbed against it. I'd been better off just painting the bare metal with quality exterior latex....or just painting over the chipped and corroded areas with touch up paint. When I take mast off I may just use paint remover on the whole mast. Jerry Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> wrote: Mine was already painted when I bought it. Some paint is chipping off down low. But I noticed looking around the marina that a plain aluminum mast doesn't look as expensive as a painted one. Also, I've seen boats online with metal masts that are not the color of aluminum. maybe they are not even metal. They had a light brass color about them. Bare looking metal of some kind. Less maintenance on a bare aluminum. I was debating buying an old white can of Rustoleum and patching up the chipped spots. Once upon a time in college I worked at an old Standard Brands Paint Store in Tucson. Guess they were bought out by the Japanese in the '80s. Rustoleum was good stuff. I was in charge of spray paints, vinyl flooring, and something else. -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:53 AM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie ---------------------------------

RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: painting masts and booms (Innovation)

Husar, Charlie [USA]2007-10-17 10:30 UTC
Hi, Fiver. I believe that, early on, the boom section on a CAL 25 was the mast on a CAL 20. No reason not to punt the idea up the line. Imagine that, the mast section on a CAL 40 being the boom section on a CAL 48. Except that at some point we run into the square-root-of-the-cube cross section problem - the reason elephants have huge legs. For you racers, be careful about too much "innovation". It is very easy to run afould of one design rules, and you could even mess up a PHRF rating. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of slickbutfoxbuger Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:24 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: painting masts and booms (Innovation) i really like fresh clean aluminum myself..... but then as i have to build an articulated mast using hydraulics, keeping the telephone pole nice and new looking won't be much of a problem on BB-54. however, for those who want a colorful mast; why not have it powder- coated? and then while you are about it; get an extruded aluminum tubular boom to go with it. a rectangle one. booms don't need to be round you know; they don't even need round corners on them. and if you just can't get your self to give up rounded edges on the bottom for safety or other reasons..... well, add some nice soft balsa, pine, or even impact-foam to fare the lower side a bit rounded for all you soft-headed old-timers out there. then get a large hole-saw out and start cutting large littering holes out of both sides of the boom to relieve strain and lighten the thing. on top, you can use a *Harken* small-boat traveler-track like they use for their full-batten main system..... Hot-Damn! this thing is a piece of work! and to think i was going to cut a piece of Cal-25 mast off to make a boom for BB-54.... this sounds soooo much lighter and stronger! will look like something out of the 22 century too! now that is *Innovation......* you Guys ota try it some time BB-54 *************************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Stirling" <bruce@...> wrote: > > Mine was already painted when I bought it. Some paint is chipping off down > low. But I noticed looking around the marina that a plain aluminum mast > doesn't look as expensive as a painted one. Also, I've seen boats online > with metal masts that are not the color of aluminum. maybe they are not > even metal. They had a light brass color about them. Bare looking metal of > some kind. Less maintenance on a bare aluminum. I was debating buying an > old white can of Rustoleum and patching up the chipped spots. Once upon a > time in college I worked at an old Standard Brands Paint Store in Tucson. > Guess they were bought out by the Japanese in the '80s. Rustoleum was good > stuff. I was in charge of spray paints, vinyl flooring, and something else. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of r good > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:53 AM > To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms > > > I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. > Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! > Reggie > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > -- > Yahoo! Groups Links

RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms

Husar, Charlie [USA]2007-10-17 10:36 UTC
The eye of the beholder, my friend, the eye of the beholder. Harleigh, How you been? Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh Ewell Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:19 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Because it looks much better. H From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie

Re: painting masts and booms

jeribelle20002007-10-17 12:46
Just getting back online here, thought I'd jump in. We had the plain aluminum mast and boom on our Cal 2-29. Easy, much less costly than painted. Whenever the stick was down (during various moves and rigging work and mast inspection, I would clean the mast and boom and use Flitz to polish. Looked great for a time, then would o dull. Easy, cheap (well, Flitz isn't exactly cheap). Now with the Morgan, it already had painted mast and boom. During our mast refit, hubby and I stripped all hardware off, and had to attend to the corroded areas, so we sanded them down to bare metal and then used Alu-prep, and Alu-dine (I think that's what they were called) to end te corrosive process and clean off the nasty bubbled mess. It was so bad that hubby had to literally beat each screw out where the sail tracks had been, as every single screw snapped when we tried to remove them, due to the corrosion. Then we primed it and hired the yard to paint it. Just prior to stepping the mast, I gave the mast and boom two coats of AwlCare. Was coached through the process by their factory rep (a friend of hubby's). hopefully this will solve our corrosion problems. Of course, we have products like tef-gel now, for hardware installation, to prevent much of the problems associated with dissimilar metals' contact. Mast and boom sure do look nice now, and as the mast goes down through the head, it looks alot better than bare aluminum would. ALOT of work, two people, on weekends, for much of one year. Not cheap either. Also sets off the sparkly spruce spreaders (original), that I restored back to their original varnished state, with their products too. Wouldn't recommend painting a perfectly good unpainted mast and boom, from personal experience. Could use the $$ and time elsewhere! (like systems, or amenities for the ladies!) girlsaylor --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, r good <my1972ih@...> wrote: > > > I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! > Reggie >

RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms

Harleigh Ewell2007-10-17 14:57 UTC
Personally, I'm doing fine. However, while sailing up to Rock Creek a couple of weeks ago, I ripped my genoa. I guess its time for a new one since it is probably the original jib. Any suggestions for a good sailmaker? It needs a wire luff for a Furlex furler and some kind of reefing enhancement feature (foam luff?). On the same trip, I discovered that my fuel gauge reads almost a quarter tank too high when I ran out of fuel. After a friend towed me over to the fuel dock at the Md. YC, I discovered (after priming the fuel filter) that the little arm on the fuel pump that is supposed to let you bleed the fuel line doesn't do the job. You have to loosen the bleed screw and then crank the engine to bleed it. On a brighter note, the next weekend, during qualifying at Summit Point (on Saturday of the GOBR), I beat my best previous time at that track by over a second. (Old dog, new tricks dept.) Too bad this race has conflicted with the GOBR the past few years. The first winter after I bought my 31, the mast was taken down to replace the standing rigging. The painter who shared space with the rigger didn't have much to do then, so I got a great price on awlgripping the mast and boom. Since the original paint was flaking off, I had it redone, and, to my eye at least, it looks better than new. How are you doing? Harleigh From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:37 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms The eye of the beholder, my friend, the eye of the beholder. Harleigh, How you been? Cheers Charlie _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh Ewell Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:19 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Because it looks much better. H From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie _____

RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: painting masts and booms

Husar, Charlie [USA]2007-10-17 15:18 UTC
"...or amenities for the ladies!" Is that anything like a 12V portable beer cooler? Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jeribelle2000 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:46 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: painting masts and booms Just getting back online here, thought I'd jump in. We had the plain aluminum mast and boom on our Cal 2-29. Easy, much less costly than painted. Whenever the stick was down (during various moves and rigging work and mast inspection, I would clean the mast and boom and use Flitz to polish. Looked great for a time, then would o dull. Easy, cheap (well, Flitz isn't exactly cheap). Now with the Morgan, it already had painted mast and boom. During our mast refit, hubby and I stripped all hardware off, and had to attend to the corroded areas, so we sanded them down to bare metal and then used Alu-prep, and Alu-dine (I think that's what they were called) to end te corrosive process and clean off the nasty bubbled mess. It was so bad that hubby had to literally beat each screw out where the sail tracks had been, as every single screw snapped when we tried to remove them, due to the corrosion. Then we primed it and hired the yard to paint it. Just prior to stepping the mast, I gave the mast and boom two coats of AwlCare. Was coached through the process by their factory rep (a friend of hubby's). hopefully this will solve our corrosion problems. Of course, we have products like tef-gel now, for hardware installation, to prevent much of the problems associated with dissimilar metals' contact. Mast and boom sure do look nice now, and as the mast goes down through the head, it looks alot better than bare aluminum would. ALOT of work, two people, on weekends, for much of one year. Not cheap either. Also sets off the sparkly spruce spreaders (original), that I restored back to their original varnished state, with their products too. Wouldn't recommend painting a perfectly good unpainted mast and boom, from personal experience. Could use the $$ and time elsewhere! (like systems, or amenities for the ladies!) girlsaylor --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, r good <my1972ih@...> wrote: > > > I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! > Reggie > Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: painting masts and booms

slickbutfoxbuger2007-10-17 15:42
no, i think in your case, Charlie; it's more like a *gas-shock* on the seat in the head..... Lmao...... :)(: rabbit *************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <husar_charlie@...> wrote: > > "...or amenities for the ladies!" > > Is that anything like a 12V portable beer cooler? > > Cheers > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of jeribelle2000 > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:46 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: painting masts and booms > > Just getting back online here, thought I'd jump in. > > We had the plain aluminum mast and boom on our Cal 2-29. Easy, much less > costly than painted. Whenever the stick was down (during various moves > and rigging work and mast inspection, I would clean the mast and boom > and use Flitz to polish. Looked great for a time, then would o dull. > Easy, cheap (well, Flitz isn't exactly cheap). > > Now with the Morgan, it already had painted mast and boom. During our > mast refit, hubby and I stripped all hardware off, and had to attend to > the corroded areas, so we sanded them down to bare metal and then used > Alu-prep, and Alu-dine (I think that's what they were called) to end te > corrosive process and clean off the nasty bubbled mess. It was so bad > that hubby had to literally beat each screw out where the sail tracks > had been, as every single screw snapped when we tried to remove them, > due to the corrosion. Then we primed it and hired the yard to paint it. > Just prior to stepping the mast, I gave the mast and boom two coats of > AwlCare. Was coached through the process by their factory rep (a friend > of hubby's). hopefully this will solve our corrosion problems. Of > course, we have products like tef-gel now, for hardware installation, to > prevent much of the problems associated with dissimilar metals' > contact. Mast and boom sure do look nice now, and as the mast goes down > through the head, it looks alot better than bare aluminum would. ALOT of > work, two people, on weekends, for much of one year. Not cheap either. > Also sets off the sparkly spruce spreaders (original), that I restored > back to their original varnished state, with their products too. > > Wouldn't recommend painting a perfectly good unpainted mast and boom, > from personal experience. Could use the $$ and time elsewhere! (like > systems, or amenities for the ladies!) > > girlsaylor > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, r good <my1972ih@> wrote: > > > > > > I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or > boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! > > Reggie > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >

RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms

r good2007-10-17 17:29 UTC
but it also requires perpetual maintenance, doesn't it? Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: he… [at] comcast.netDate: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:19:26 -0400Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Because it looks much better. H -----Original Message-----From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r goodSent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PMTo: ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence!Reggie

RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms

Harleigh Ewell2007-10-17 17:58 UTC
My mast and boom were awlgripped in 2000. Since then, annually, I wash and clean the parts I can reach from the deck. Takes less than 30 minutes. Harleigh From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:30 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms but it also requires perpetual maintenance, doesn't it? Reggie _____ To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: he… [at] comcast.net Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:19:26 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Because it looks much better. H From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie _____

RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms

Downing, Thomas2007-10-17 18:22 UTC
Eventuallly it will require maintenance. Depends on original finish material/prep. My mast and boom are 20 years old. No trace of bubbling, flaking etc as of yet! (Other than very minor almost not visible bit at mast step, but it is a keel stepped mast, so you can't see it anyway. Mast step seems to be cast aluminum well above bilge bottom which may account for it.) td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of r good Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:30 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms but it also requires perpetual maintenance, doesn't it? Reggie _____ To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: he… [at] comcast.net Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:19:26 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Because it looks much better. H From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie _____ DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

Re: painting masts and booms

jeribelle20002007-10-17 23:37
That would work! Since I don't have refrigeration at this time and the icebox cover is off, being re-worked... --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Husar, Charlie [USA]" <husar_charlie@...> wrote: > > "...or amenities for the ladies!" > > Is that anything like a 12V portable beer cooler? > > Cheers > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of jeribelle2000 > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:46 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: painting masts and booms > > Just getting back online here, thought I'd jump in. > > We had the plain aluminum mast and boom on our Cal 2-29. Easy, much less > costly than painted. Whenever the stick was down (during various moves > and rigging work and mast inspection, I would clean the mast and boom > and use Flitz to polish. Looked great for a time, then would o dull. > Easy, cheap (well, Flitz isn't exactly cheap). > > Now with the Morgan, it already had painted mast and boom. During our > mast refit, hubby and I stripped all hardware off, and had to attend to > the corroded areas, so we sanded them down to bare metal and then used > Alu-prep, and Alu-dine (I think that's what they were called) to end te > corrosive process and clean off the nasty bubbled mess. It was so bad > that hubby had to literally beat each screw out where the sail tracks > had been, as every single screw snapped when we tried to remove them, > due to the corrosion. Then we primed it and hired the yard to paint it. > Just prior to stepping the mast, I gave the mast and boom two coats of > AwlCare. Was coached through the process by their factory rep (a friend > of hubby's). hopefully this will solve our corrosion problems. Of > course, we have products like tef-gel now, for hardware installation, to > prevent much of the problems associated with dissimilar metals' > contact. Mast and boom sure do look nice now, and as the mast goes down > through the head, it looks alot better than bare aluminum would. ALOT of > work, two people, on weekends, for much of one year. Not cheap either. > Also sets off the sparkly spruce spreaders (original), that I restored > back to their original varnished state, with their products too. > > Wouldn't recommend painting a perfectly good unpainted mast and boom, > from personal experience. Could use the $$ and time elsewhere! (like > systems, or amenities for the ladies!) > > girlsaylor > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, r good <my1972ih@> wrote: > > > > > > I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or > boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! > > Reggie > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >

RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms (Reg)

Husar, Charlie [USA]2007-10-18 02:29 UTC
Hi, Reg. I've never seen one that did not start flaking off. Apparently a very touchy thing to do right. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:30 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms but it also requires perpetual maintenance, doesn't it? Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: he… [at] comcast.net Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:19:26 -0400 Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Because it looks much better. H -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie __._,_.

RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh)

john raxter2007-10-18 11:37 UTC
Harleigh, You should find most sail makers are offering "Boat show" Discounts! Start Calling the major brands, Doyle, UK, Neil Pride, etc. Most dealers will hold their pricing till December. That is their cut-off date for delivery in the spring. Offshore factories take months to ship from Asia to the states. If price is the leading factor, at least get a quote from Rolly-Tasker Sail. (direct Asian-US sales) Did you hear they Paved Summit point? It is suppose to be smooooooth. Expect fast laps next year and new records to beat! I hate I missed the GOBR, Alfred Dark and Stormies, and a ride on his new boat. Maybe next year, (unless someone offers me a chance for some hot laps at Summit point J John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh Ewell Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:57 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Personally, I'm doing fine. However, while sailing up to Rock Creek a couple of weeks ago, I ripped my genoa. I guess its time for a new one since it is probably the original jib. Any suggestions for a good sailmaker? It needs a wire luff for a Furlex furler and some kind of reefing enhancement feature (foam luff?). On the same trip, I discovered that my fuel gauge reads almost a quarter tank too high when I ran out of fuel. After a friend towed me over to the fuel dock at the Md. YC, I discovered (after priming the fuel filter) that the little arm on the fuel pump that is supposed to let you bleed the fuel line doesn't do the job. You have to loosen the bleed screw and then crank the engine to bleed it. On a brighter note, the next weekend, during qualifying at Summit Point (on Saturday of the GOBR), I beat my best previous time at that track by over a second. (Old dog, new tricks dept.) Too bad this race has conflicted with the GOBR the past few years. The first winter after I bought my 31, the mast was taken down to replace the standing rigging. The painter who shared space with the rigger didn't have much to do then, so I got a great price on awlgripping the mast and boom. Since the original paint was flaking off, I had it redone, and, to my eye at least, it looks better than new. How are you doing? Harleigh From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:37 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms The eye of the beholder, my friend, the eye of the beholder. Harleigh, How you been? Cheers Charlie _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh Ewell Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:19 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Because it looks much better. H From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie _____

RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh)

Downing, Thomas2007-10-18 11:44 UTC
The other option to consider when buying a new sail (if you are buying dacron) is local lofts and sailmakers. Don't rule out a loft just because it isn't a national or international name. td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of john raxter Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) Harleigh, You should find most sail makers are offering "Boat show" Discounts! Start Calling the major brands, Doyle, UK, Neil Pride, etc. Most dealers will hold their pricing till December. That is their cut-off date for delivery in the spring. Offshore factories take months to ship from Asia to the states. If price is the leading factor, at least get a quote from Rolly-Tasker Sail. (direct Asian-US sales) Did you hear they Paved Summit point? It is suppose to be smooooooth. Expect fast laps next year and new records to beat! I hate I missed the GOBR, Alfred Dark and Stormies, and a ride on his new boat. Maybe next year, (unless someone offers me a chance for some hot laps at Summit point J John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh Ewell Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:57 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Personally, I'm doing fine. However, while sailing up to Rock Creek a couple of weeks ago, I ripped my genoa. I guess its time for a new one since it is probably the original jib. Any suggestions for a good sailmaker? It needs a wire luff for a Furlex furler and some kind of reefing enhancement feature (foam luff?). On the same trip, I discovered that my fuel gauge reads almost a quarter tank too high when I ran out of fuel. After a friend towed me over to the fuel dock at the Md. YC, I discovered (after priming the fuel filter) that the little arm on the fuel pump that is supposed to let you bleed the fuel line doesn't do the job. You have to loosen the bleed screw and then crank the engine to bleed it. On a brighter note, the next weekend, during qualifying at Summit Point (on Saturday of the GOBR), I beat my best previous time at that track by over a second. (Old dog, new tricks dept.) Too bad this race has conflicted with the GOBR the past few years. The first winter after I bought my 31, the mast was taken down to replace the standing rigging. The painter who shared space with the rigger didn't have much to do then, so I got a great price on awlgripping the mast and boom. Since the original paint was flaking off, I had it redone, and, to my eye at least, it looks better than new. How are you doing? Harleigh From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:37 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms The eye of the beholder, my friend, the eye of the beholder. Harleigh, How you been? Cheers Charlie _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh Ewell Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:19 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Because it looks much better. H From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie _____ DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms(reply)

David W. Owen2007-10-18 17:00 UTC
Jerry, Don't give up.... Use the West System acid etch and neutralizer solution. It's a few bucks, but you don't have to worry about the acid sticking around. I followed with Interlux's aluminum primer (brushes on thin) and their two part tip and roll paint. It's pricey, but you don't have that much ground to cover and it will work. Wilkie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Sobel Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms(reply) I painted my mast two years ago. I made the mistake of either...not getting the acid concoction rinsed off well enuf, or the rustoleum latex aluminum primer is incompatible with aluminum, as I now have areas of aluminum corrosion bubbling up from the aluminum, worse than ever. yech! Now I would advise against using any etch on the aluminum before painting it, be sure it is well washed and rinsed. I've seen plain high qualitiy latex house paint stick to aluminum extremely well. In some places the damn paint just wants to peel off everywhere it was painted on. Now I'm going to have to take the mast down and get rid of all the paint. Uggh! Jerry r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie

RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms(reply)

Husar, Charlie [USA]2007-10-18 17:04 UTC
Yes, David, but striping the mast! Do you know how many little screws there in the main slider track on a CAL 25. Last time I counted, it was 1.2748 gazillion. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David W. Owen Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:01 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms(reply) Jerry, Don't give up.... Use the West System acid etch and neutralizer solution. It's a few bucks, but you don't have to worry about the acid sticking around. I followed with Interlux's aluminum primer (brushes on thin) and their two part tip and roll paint. It's pricey, but you don't have that much ground to cover and it will work. Wilkie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Sobel Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms(reply) I painted my mast two years ago. I made the mistake of either...not getting the acid concoction rinsed off well enuf, or the rustoleum latex aluminum primer is incompatible with aluminum, as I now have areas of aluminum corrosion bubbling up from the aluminum, worse than ever. yech! Now I would advise against using any etch on the aluminum before painting it, be sure it is well washed and rinsed. I've seen plain high qualitiy latex house paint stick to aluminum extremely well. In some places the damn paint just wants to peel off everywhere it was painted on. Now I'm going to have to take the mast down and get rid of all the paint. Uggh! Jerry r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie Yahoo! Groups Links

RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms(reply)

David W. Owen2007-10-18 17:38 UTC
Good point, Charlie. They're a mess to remove. Replaced mine with rivets and will throw the boat away before I do it again. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:05 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms(reply) Yes, David, but striping the mast! Do you know how many little screws there in the main slider track on a CAL 25. Last time I counted, it was 1.2748 gazillion. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of David W. Owen Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:01 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms(reply) Jerry, Don't give up.... Use the West System acid etch and neutralizer solution. It's a few bucks, but you don't have to worry about the acid sticking around. I followed with Interlux's aluminum primer (brushes on thin) and their two part tip and roll paint. It's pricey, but you don't have that much ground to cover and it will work. Wilkie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gerald Sobel Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms(reply) I painted my mast two years ago. I made the mistake of either...not getting the acid concoction rinsed off well enuf, or the rustoleum latex aluminum primer is incompatible with aluminum, as I now have areas of aluminum corrosion bubbling up from the aluminum, worse than ever. yech! Now I would advise against using any etch on the aluminum before painting it, be sure it is well washed and rinsed. I've seen plain high qualitiy latex house paint stick to aluminum extremely well. In some places the damn paint just wants to peel off everywhere it was painted on. Now I'm going to have to take the mast down and get rid of all the paint. Uggh! Jerry r good <my… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:my1972ih%40hotmail.com> > wrote: I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie Yahoo! Groups Links

RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh)

r good2007-10-19 23:15 UTC
the local loft built my new 150 and I am delighted. measured my boat himself, came for a sail to eyeball and instruct, etc. same price as ordering except no shipping! Shall I send him by? Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: Th… [at] ipc.comDate: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:44:24 -0400Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) The other option to consider when buying a new sail (if you are buying dacron) is local lofts and sailmakers. Don't rule out a loft just because it isn't a national or international name. td -----Original Message-----From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of john raxterSent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:38 AMTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) Harleigh, You should find most sail makers are offering “Boat show” Discounts! Start Calling the major brands, Doyle, UK, Neil Pride, etc. Most dealers will hold their pricing till December. That is their cut-off date for delivery in the spring. Offshore factories take months to ship from Asia to the states. If price is the leading factor, at least get a quote from Rolly-Tasker Sail. (direct Asian-US sales) Did you hear they Paved Summit point? It is suppose to be smooooooth. Expect fast laps next year and new records to beat! I hate I missed the GOBR, Alfred Dark and Stormies, and a ride on his new boat. Maybe next year, (unless someone offers me a chance for some hot laps at Summit point J John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh EwellSent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:57 AMTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Personally, I’m doing fine. However, while sailing up to Rock Creek a couple of weeks ago, I ripped my genoa. I guess its time for a new one since it is probably the original jib. Any suggestions for a good sailmaker? It needs a wire luff for a Furlex furler and some kind of reefing enhancement feature (foam luff?). On the same trip, I discovered that my fuel gauge reads almost a quarter tank too high when I ran out of fuel. After a friend towed me over to the fuel dock at the Md. YC, I discovered (after priming the fuel filter) that the little arm on the fuel pump that is supposed to let you bleed the fuel line doesn’t do the job. You have to loosen the bleed screw and then crank the engine to bleed it. On a brighter note, the next weekend, during qualifying at Summit Point (on Saturday of the GOBR), I beat my best previous time at that track by over a second. (Old dog, new tricks dept.) Too bad this race has conflicted with the GOBR the past few years. The first winter after I bought my 31, the mast was taken down to replace the standing rigging. The painter who shared space with the rigger didn’t have much to do then, so I got a great price on awlgripping the mast and boom. Since the original paint was flaking off, I had it redone, and, to my eye at least, it looks better than new. How are you doing? Harleigh -----Original Message-----From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA]Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:37 AMTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms The eye of the beholder, my friend, the eye of the beholder. Harleigh, How you been? Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh EwellSent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:19 PMTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Because it looks much better. H -----Original Message-----From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r goodSent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PMTo: ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence!Reggie DISCLAIMER:Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. 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RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh)

Husar, Charlie [USA]2007-10-20 02:45 UTC
Here in Annapolis, the people known for cruising sails (usually means dacron and furlers) are not the National types. However, due to my racing bent, I have not priced any of these lofts. CAL 25s here do require dacron mains for one design racing. I think it is correct not to ignore the local lofts. They make their name with the service that Reg describes. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 7:15 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) the local loft built my new 150 and I am delighted. measured my boat himself, came for a sail to eyeball and instruct, etc. same price as ordering except no shipping! Shall I send him by? Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Th… [at] ipc.com Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:44:24 -0400 Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) The other option to consider when buying a new sail (if you are buying dacron) is local lofts and sailmakers. Don't rule out a loft just because it isn't a national or international name. td -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of john raxter Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) Harleigh, You should find most sail makers are offering "Boat show" Discounts! Start Calling the major brands, Doyle, UK, Neil Pride, etc. Most dealers will hold their pricing till December. That is their cut-off date for delivery in the spring. Offshore factories take months to ship from Asia to the states. If price is the leading factor, at least get a quote from Rolly-Tasker Sail. (direct Asian-US sales) Did you hear they Paved Summit point? It is suppose to be smooooooth. Expect fast laps next year and new records to beat! I hate I missed the GOBR, Alfred Dark and Stormies, and a ride on his new boat. Maybe next year, (unless someone offers me a chance for some hot laps at Summit point J John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh Ewell Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:57 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Personally, I'm doing fine. However, while sailing up to Rock Creek a couple of weeks ago, I ripped my genoa. I guess its time for a new one since it is probably the original jib. Any suggestions for a good sailmaker? It needs a wire luff for a Furlex furler and some kind of reefing enhancement feature (foam luff?). On the same trip, I discovered that my fuel gauge reads almost a quarter tank too high when I ran out of fuel. After a friend towed me over to the fuel dock at the Md. YC, I discovered (after priming the fuel filter) that the little arm on the fuel pump that is supposed to let you bleed the fuel line doesn't do the job. You have to loosen the bleed screw and then crank the engine to bleed it. On a brighter note, the next weekend, during qualifying at Summit Point (on Saturday of the GOBR), I beat my best previous time at that track by over a second. (Old dog, new tricks dept.) Too bad this race has conflicted with the GOBR the past few years. The first winter after I bought my 31, the mast was taken down to replace the standing rigging. The painter who shared space with the rigger didn't have much to do then, so I got a great price on awlgripping the mast and boom. Since the original paint was flaking off, I had it redone, and, to my eye at least, it looks better than new. How are you doing? Harleigh -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:37 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms The eye of the beholder, my friend, the eye of the beholder. Harleigh, How you been? Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh Ewell Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:19 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Because it looks much better. H -----Original Message----- From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. 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RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh)

Harleigh Ewell2007-10-21 03:31 UTC
Could be. Who is it, and where is he located. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 7:15 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) the local loft built my new 150 and I am delighted. measured my boat himself, came for a sail to eyeball and instruct, etc. same price as ordering except no shipping! Shall I send him by? Reggie _____ To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Th… [at] ipc.com Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:44:24 -0400 Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) The other option to consider when buying a new sail (if you are buying dacron) is local lofts and sailmakers. Don't rule out a loft just because it isn't a national or international name. td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of john raxter Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:38 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) Harleigh, You should find most sail makers are offering "Boat show" Discounts! Start Calling the major brands, Doyle, UK, Neil Pride, etc. Most dealers will hold their pricing till December. That is their cut-off date for delivery in the spring. Offshore factories take months to ship from Asia to the states. If price is the leading factor, at least get a quote from Rolly-Tasker Sail. (direct Asian-US sales) Did you hear they Paved Summit point? It is suppose to be smooooooth. Expect fast laps next year and new records to beat! I hate I missed the GOBR, Alfred Dark and Stormies, and a ride on his new boat. Maybe next year, (unless someone offers me a chance for some hot laps at Summit point :-) John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh Ewell Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:57 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Personally, I'm doing fine. However, while sailing up to Rock Creek a couple of weeks ago, I ripped my genoa. I guess its time for a new one since it is probably the original jib. Any suggestions for a good sailmaker? It needs a wire luff for a Furlex furler and some kind of reefing enhancement feature (foam luff?). On the same trip, I discovered that my fuel gauge reads almost a quarter tank too high when I ran out of fuel. After a friend towed me over to the fuel dock at the Md. YC, I discovered (after priming the fuel filter) that the little arm on the fuel pump that is supposed to let you bleed the fuel line doesn't do the job. You have to loosen the bleed screw and then crank the engine to bleed it. On a brighter note, the next weekend, during qualifying at Summit Point (on Saturday of the GOBR), I beat my best previous time at that track by over a second. (Old dog, new tricks dept.) Too bad this race has conflicted with the GOBR the past few years. The first winter after I bought my 31, the mast was taken down to replace the standing rigging. The painter who shared space with the rigger didn't have much to do then, so I got a great price on awlgripping the mast and boom. Since the original paint was flaking off, I had it redone, and, to my eye at least, it looks better than new. How are you doing? Harleigh From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:37 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms The eye of the beholder, my friend, the eye of the beholder. Harleigh, How you been? Cheers Charlie _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh Ewell Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:19 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Because it looks much better. H From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence! Reggie _____ DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. 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RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh)

r good2007-10-22 04:50 UTC
location first. Montana. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: he… [at] comcast.netDate: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:31:45 -0400Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) Could be. Who is it, and where is he located. -----Original Message-----From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r goodSent: Friday, October 19, 2007 7:15 PMTo: ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) the local loft built my new 150 and I am delighted. measured my boat himself, came for a sail to eyeball and instruct, etc. same price as ordering except no shipping! Shall I send him by?Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: Th… [at] ipc.comDate: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:44:24 -0400Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) The other option to consider when buying a new sail (if you are buying dacron) is local lofts and sailmakers. Don't rule out a loft just because it isn't a national or international name. td -----Original Message-----From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of john raxterSent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:38 AMTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) Harleigh, You should find most sail makers are offering “Boat show” Discounts! Start Calling the major brands, Doyle, UK, Neil Pride, etc. Most dealers will hold their pricing till December. That is their cut-off date for delivery in the spring. Offshore factories take months to ship from Asia to the states. If price is the leading factor, at least get a quote from Rolly-Tasker Sail. (direct Asian-US sales) Did you hear they Paved Summit point? It is suppose to be smooooooth. Expect fast laps next year and new records to beat! I hate I missed the GOBR, Alfred Dark and Stormies, and a ride on his new boat. Maybe next year, (unless someone offers me a chance for some hot laps at Summit point J John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh EwellSent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:57 AMTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Personally, I’m doing fine. However, while sailing up to Rock Creek a couple of weeks ago, I ripped my genoa. I guess its time for a new one since it is probably the original jib. Any suggestions for a good sailmaker? It needs a wire luff for a Furlex furler and some kind of reefing enhancement feature (foam luff?). On the same trip, I discovered that my fuel gauge reads almost a quarter tank too high when I ran out of fuel. After a friend towed me over to the fuel dock at the Md. YC, I discovered (after priming the fuel filter) that the little arm on the fuel pump that is supposed to let you bleed the fuel line doesn’t do the job. You have to loosen the bleed screw and then crank the engine to bleed it. On a brighter note, the next weekend, during qualifying at Summit Point (on Saturday of the GOBR), I beat my best previous time at that track by over a second. (Old dog, new tricks dept.) Too bad this race has conflicted with the GOBR the past few years. The first winter after I bought my 31, the mast was taken down to replace the standing rigging. The painter who shared space with the rigger didn’t have much to do then, so I got a great price on awlgripping the mast and boom. Since the original paint was flaking off, I had it redone, and, to my eye at least, it looks better than new. How are you doing? Harleigh -----Original Message-----From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar, Charlie [USA]Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:37 AMTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms The eye of the beholder, my friend, the eye of the beholder. Harleigh, How you been? Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harleigh EwellSent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:19 PMTo: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms Because it looks much better. H -----Original Message-----From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r goodSent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:53 PMTo: ca… [at] yahoogroups.comSubject: [Cal_Boats] painting masts and booms I asked a few days ago why anyone would paint an aluminum mast or boom. Comments have been conspicuous in their absence!Reggie DISCLAIMER:Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. 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RE: Genoa (was painting masts and booms)(Reggie)

Harleigh Ewell2007-10-22 13:33 UTC
Oh. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:50 AM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) location first. Montana. Reggie _____ To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: he… [at] comcast.net Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:31:45 -0400 Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) Could be. Who is it, and where is he located. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r good Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 7:15 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Cal_Boats] Genoa & Summit pt: (was painting masts and booms)(Harleigh) the local loft built my new 150 and I am delighted. measured my boat himself, came for a sail to eyeball and instruct, etc. same price as ordering except no shipping! Shall I send him by? Reggie