3 messages2007-10-23 16:18 UTCthrough 2007-10-23 17:46 UTC
Re: Cal 40 mast support beam
Fin Beven2007-10-23 16:18 UTC
The beam ... see attachment. It's up-side down, but should be printable.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rog Jones
To: pf… [at] yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:08 AM
Subject: Cal 40 mast support beam
Good morning, Patrick -
Your email to the Cal List was referred to me because I was an engineer at Jensen Marine when these boats were built and have helped replace at least a couple dozen of these structures.
This repair can be done by you for about $5,000 or by a yard for about $35,000. Depends on what you want to do.
I have the original drawings for the mast support beam and can make copies for you. If you or your yard need guidance through the process, I will be glad to help at no cost to you if you do it yourself. If your yard wants consulting, I will charge for my time. Once the new beam is fabricated, the replacement takes about five days, including the cosmetic cleanup and refinishing of the glass.
The beam repair is typically only one of several that will need to be done to make your Cal-40 seaworthy. Plan also, at the very least, on replacing the toe rail. Often the deck core is rotten and has to be replaced as well. All this is doable with enough time, money and skill. Count on replacing the mast boot and possibly some of the bulkheads. Which engine and drive do you have?
A word of caution. By the time all is said and done, a good Cal 40 (not a great one) will end up eating up at least $100,000 in materials and labor and when you are all done will be worth about $50,000 on the open market. You can check the final number there on www.Yachtworld.com by watching what is asked for these boats and what, if they sell, they actually go for. Not a few owners have $250,000 into their boats and are happy with that. Nevertheless, a comparable used boat with an active fleet will run you at least 3 times that amount. A new one can easily run you 5 times that amount. So it all depends on what you want to put into you new toy.
You need to go into this with your eyes (and wallet) open. If you don't think you want to spend that much money on a toy, it's best to find another owner for her.
Cheers!
\Rog
Re: Cal 40 mast support beam
mtkennedy12007-10-23 17:41
--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Fin Beven" <finbeven@...> wrote:
>
> The beam ... see attachment. It's up-side down, but should be printable.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rog Jones
> To: pfiega@...
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:08 AM
> Subject: Cal 40 mast support beam
>
>
> Good morning, Patrick -
>
>
>
> Your email to the Cal List was referred to me because I was an engineer at Jensen
Marine when these boats were built and have helped replace at least a couple dozen of
these structures.
>
>
>
> This repair can be done by you for about $5,000 or by a yard for about $35,000.
Depends on what you want to do.
>
>
>
> I have the original drawings for the mast support beam and can make copies for you. If
you or your yard need guidance through the process, I will be glad to help at no cost to
you if you do it yourself. If your yard wants consulting, I will charge for my time. Once the
new beam is fabricated, the replacement takes about five days, including the cosmetic
cleanup and refinishing of the glass.
>
>
>
> The beam repair is typically only one of several that will need to be done to make your
Cal-40 seaworthy. Plan also, at the very least, on replacing the toe rail.
I did the toe rail, replacing it with a new teak rail, for about $7000.
>Often the deck core is rotten and has to be replaced as well. All this is doable with
>enough time, money and skill. Count on replacing the mast boot and possibly some of
>the bulkheads. Which engine and drive do you have?
>
>
>
> A word of caution. By the time all is said and done, a good Cal 40 (not a great one) will
end up eating up at least $100,000 in materials and labor and when you are all done will
be worth about $50,000 on the open market.
I think a restored Cal 40 is worth more than that but I am an optimist.
> You can check the final number there on www.Yachtworld.com by watching what is
>asked for these boats and what, if they sell, they actually go for. Not a few owners have
>$250,000 into their boats and are happy with that. Nevertheless, a comparable used
>boat with an active fleet will run you at least 3 times that amount. A new one can easily
>run you 5 times that amount. So it all depends on what you want to put into you new toy.
>
>
>
> You need to go into this with your eyes (and wallet) open. If you don't think you want
to spend that much money on a toy, it's best to find another owner for her.
I'll second that although I think you can do a lot yourself if you will take the time (and have
it). The owner of Dancing Bear had a friend basically move into the barn for two years
while they did it together. I spent far too much on the yard and wish I'd hauled it and
stored it for at least a year.
Mike Kennedy
Rog is the guy who knows, though. Fin also has a beautifully restored boat. There are four
of them at LA yacht Club if you are ever out this way.
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
> \Rog
>
RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 40 mast support beam
steven merrill2007-10-23 17:46 UTC
Hi, I'd like to ask a question of Mr. Mike Kennedy who obviously is very
knowledgeable on Cal's and hopefully the 2-46 as well. How would be the best
way for me to contact him?
Thanks loads,
Steve Merrill.
(Looking for a good Cal 2-46, one listed in S.D., CA??? Looks like it is a
custom? raised cabin? Factory or what?)
_____
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Of mtkennedy1
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:41 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 40 mast support beam
--- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "Fin
Beven" <finbeven@...> wrote:
>
> The beam ... see attachment. It's up-side down, but should be printable.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rog Jones
> To: pfiega@...
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:08 AM
> Subject: Cal 40 mast support beam
>
>
> Good morning, Patrick -
>
>
>
> Your email to the Cal List was referred to me because I was an engineer at
Jensen
Marine when these boats were built and have helped replace at least a couple
dozen of
these structures.
>
>
>
> This repair can be done by you for about $5,000 or by a yard for about
$35,000.
Depends on what you want to do.
>
>
>
> I have the original drawings for the mast support beam and can make copies
for you. If
you or your yard need guidance through the process, I will be glad to help
at no cost to
you if you do it yourself. If your yard wants consulting, I will charge for
my time. Once the
new beam is fabricated, the replacement takes about five days, including the
cosmetic
cleanup and refinishing of the glass.
>
>
>
> The beam repair is typically only one of several that will need to be done
to make your
Cal-40 seaworthy. Plan also, at the very least, on replacing the toe rail.
I did the toe rail, replacing it with a new teak rail, for about $7000.
>Often the deck core is rotten and has to be replaced as well. All this is
doable with
>enough time, money and skill. Count on replacing the mast boot and possibly
some of
>the bulkheads. Which engine and drive do you have?
>
>
>
> A word of caution. By the time all is said and done, a good Cal 40 (not a
great one) will
end up eating up at least $100,000 in materials and labor and when you are
all done will
be worth about $50,000 on the open market.
I think a restored Cal 40 is worth more than that but I am an optimist.
> You can check the final number there on www.Yachtworld.com by watching
what is
>asked for these boats and what, if they sell, they actually go for. Not a
few owners have
>$250,000 into their boats and are happy with that. Nevertheless, a
comparable used
>boat with an active fleet will run you at least 3 times that amount. A new
one can easily
>run you 5 times that amount. So it all depends on what you want to put into
you new toy.
>
>
>
> You need to go into this with your eyes (and wallet) open. If you don't
think you want
to spend that much money on a toy, it's best to find another owner for her.
I'll second that although I think you can do a lot yourself if you will take
the time (and have
it). The owner of Dancing Bear had a friend basically move into the barn for
two years
while they did it together. I spent far too much on the yard and wish I'd
hauled it and
stored it for at least a year.
Mike Kennedy
Rog is the guy who knows, though. Fin also has a beautifully restored boat.
There are four
of them at LA yacht Club if you are ever out this way.
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
> \Rog
>