Pushpit??

Anyone know where I can find a used pushpit for a Cal 25?? Thought I had found one, but guy doesn't return e-mails :-( New one is like $770. which is more than I wish (or have) to pay... Best, Marsh -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

Ok, i'll bit..... what in tarnation is a *push-pit*. and just where on a Cal-25 can one find these, Sir? rabbit...... ***************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Marsh Wise <marsh@...> wrote: > > Anyone know where I can find a used pushpit for a Cal 25?? Thought I had > found one, but guy doesn't return e-mails :-( New one is like $770. > which is more than I wish (or have) to pay... > Best, Marsh > > -- > Marsh Wise > Webmaster: > -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ > -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ > -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ > - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> > > Assistant Webmaster: > -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ > > Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) > -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix- hispana.org/ > > Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze > > Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze > > Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt > > Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain > > *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? > Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now! >

Thanks Bunny was wondering the same thing....for a second thought the vodka got to me. ----- Original Message ----- From: slickbutfoxbuger To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:15 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Pushpit?? Ok, i'll bit..... what in tarnation is a *push-pit*. and just where on a Cal-25 can one find these, Sir? rabbit...... ***************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Marsh Wise <marsh@...> wrote: > > Anyone know where I can find a used pushpit for a Cal 25?? Thought I had > found one, but guy doesn't return e-mails :-( New one is like $770. > which is more than I wish (or have) to pay... > Best, Marsh > > -- > Marsh Wise > Webmaster: > -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ > -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ > -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ > - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> > > Assistant Webmaster: > -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ > > Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) > -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix- hispana.org/ > > Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze > > Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze > > Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt > > Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain > > *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? > Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now! >

The rails around the bow of the boat are called the "pulpit." So, the rails at the stern of the boat are the "pushpit." Harleigh From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of slickbutfoxbuger Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:15 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Pushpit?? Ok, i'll bit..... what in tarnation is a *push-pit*. and just where on a Cal-25 can one find these, Sir? rabbit...... ***************** --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, Marsh Wise <marsh@...> wrote: > > Anyone know where I can find a used pushpit for a Cal 25?? Thought I had > found one, but guy doesn't return e-mails :-( New one is like $770. > which is more than I wish (or have) to pay... > Best, Marsh > > -- > Marsh Wise > Webmaster: > -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenacto <http://www.reenactor.net/> r.net/ > -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthi <http://www.foresthill.us/> ll.us/ > -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenacto <http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/> r.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ > - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenacto <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> r.net/units/17lwfd/> > > Assistant Webmaster: > -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenacto <http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/> r.net/vaq-33/ > > Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) > -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio- <http://www.legio-ix-> ix- hispana.org/ > > Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze > > Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze > > Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt > > Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain > > *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? > Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenacto <http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php> r.net/forums/index.php right now! >

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Sail Away <Svadas4@...> wrote: > > Thanks Bunny was wondering the same thing....for a second thought the vodka got to me. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: slickbutfoxbuger > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:15 PM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Pushpit?? > > > Ok, i'll bit..... > > what in tarnation is a *push-pit*. > and just where on a Cal-25 can one find these, Sir? Another name for the stern pulpit. MIke Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96

ya know... not the PULLpit, but the PUSHpit. Stern rail ma'am. M. slickbutfoxbuger wrote: >Ok, i'll bit..... > >what in tarnation is a *push-pit*. >and just where on a Cal-25 can one find these, Sir? > >rabbit...... > >***************** >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Marsh Wise <marsh@...> wrote: > > >>Anyone know where I can find a used pushpit for a Cal 25?? Thought >> >> >I had > > >>found one, but guy doesn't return e-mails :-( New one is like $770. >>which is more than I wish (or have) to pay... >>Best, Marsh >> >>-- >>Marsh Wise >>Webmaster: >>-reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ >>-Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ >>-Legio IX Hispana Penna: >> >> >http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ > > >>- 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division >> >> ><http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> > > >>Assistant Webmaster: >>-VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ >> >>Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) >>-LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix- >> >> >hispana.org/ > > >>Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze >> >>Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze >> >>Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt >> >>Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of >> >> >Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain > > >>*Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If >> >> >not, WHY NOT? > > >>Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php >> >> >right now! > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

Hi Marsh - I have one for sale, [ along with lots of other Cal 25 parts ] please contact me off list. Joe DeMers Sound Marine Diesel LLC www.soundmarinediesel.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Marsh Wise To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Pushpit?? Anyone know where I can find a used pushpit for a Cal 25?? Thought I had found one, but guy doesn't return e-mails :-( New one is like $770. which is more than I wish (or have) to pay... Best, Marsh -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.9/1090 - Release Date: 10/24/2007 8:48 AM

Hi Marsh! Where did you find the new pushpit that you mentioned ($770)? I need a pulpit for my Cal 39, but don't know where to look. Thanks! Max --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Marsh Wise <marsh@...> wrote: > > Anyone know where I can find a used pushpit for a Cal 25?? Thought I had > found one, but guy doesn't return e-mails :-( New one is like $770. > which is more than I wish (or have) to pay... > Best, Marsh

<http://www.whitewatermarineinc.com/index.html> scubavids wrote: >Hi Marsh! Where did you find the new pushpit that you mentioned >($770)? I need a pulpit for my Cal 39, but don't know where to look. > >Thanks! >Max > >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Marsh Wise <marsh@...> wrote: > > >>Anyone know where I can find a used pushpit for a Cal 25?? Thought I >> >> >had > > >>found one, but guy doesn't return e-mails :-( New one is like $770. >>which is more than I wish (or have) to pay... >>Best, Marsh >> >> > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

Try Tops in Quality, Marysville, MI. They built a lot of stuff back in the day, and are still around. I've had a couple of business dealings with them, and they are first rate. Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Oct 28, 2007, at 7:31 AM, Marsh Wise wrote: > <http://www.whitewatermarineinc.com/index.html> > > scubavids wrote:Hi Marsh! Where did you find the new pushpit that > you mentioned >> ($770)? I need a pulpit for my Cal 39, but don't know where to look. >> >> Thanks! >> Max >> >> --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Marsh Wise <marsh@...> wrote:

note the corner "rails" at that website. Our Cal came with corner stanchions braced forward only. I added side braces and ended up with a configuration like the pictures. Much better. Then, new lifelines with gate release ends allows the stern to be opened up for access to the stern fold up swim ladder with step pads. What a deal! And, she is still competative on the race course. The boat, gentlemen! Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: ma… [at] reenactor.netDate: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:31:53 -0400Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Pushpit?? <http://www.whitewatermarineinc.com/index.html>scubavids wrote: Hi Marsh! Where did you find the new pushpit that you mentioned ($770)? I need a pulpit for my Cal 39, but don't know where to look. Thanks! Max --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Marsh Wise <marsh@...> wrote: Anyone know where I can find a used pushpit for a Cal 25?? Thought I had found one, but guy doesn't return e-mails :-( New one is like $770. which is more than I wish (or have) to pay... Best, Marsh Yahoo! Groups Links -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

Harleigh Ewell wrote: > > The rails around the bow of the boat are called the "pulpit." So, the > rails at the stern of the boat are the "pushpit." > > > I always figured this term got too far into "cute" territory so I tend to call that stainless steel structure at the stern the "stern pulpit." Chris Campbell

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Chris Campbell <clcampbell@...> wrote: > > Harleigh Ewell wrote: > > > > The rails around the bow of the boat are called the "pulpit." So, the > > rails at the stern of the boat are the "pushpit." > > > > > > > > > > > > I always figured this term got too far into "cute" territory so I tend > to call that stainless steel structure at the stern the "stern pulpit." It's more a British term and using it here sounds a bit affected. The question was just a definition. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > Chris Campbell >

mtkennedy1 wrote: > > > > It's more a British term and using it here sounds a bit affected. The > question was just a > definition. > I know, but the term itself has always annoyed me and so I was striking a blow for plain speech and proper sailor-talk. It's a Monday at work after a three-day weekend for me and so I'm grumpy, and besides, I saw four boats out sailing yesterday when the rest of us are on the hard already. Even grumpier. Now if anybody starts talking about walking on the boat's floor and hitting his/her head on the ceiling, there'll be hell to pay. Chris Campbell

Uh, how do you determine what is proper "sailor talk?" I think it depends more on where you're at and how you want to say something. Anyway, I was in the Navy and we'd just have words in the squadron that no one else knew... stuff that was made up and became common usage. Marsh Chris Campbell wrote: > mtkennedy1 wrote: > >> >> >> It's more a British term and using it here sounds a bit affected. The >> question was just a >> definition. >> > > > > > > > > I know, but the term itself has always annoyed me and so I was > striking a blow for plain speech and proper sailor-talk. It's a > Monday at work after a three-day weekend for me and so I'm grumpy, and > besides, I saw four boats out sailing yesterday when the rest of us > are on the hard already. Even grumpier. Now if anybody starts > talking about walking on the boat's floor and hitting his/her head on > the ceiling, there'll be hell to pay. > > Chris Campbell > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

Marsh Wise wrote: > > Uh, how do you determine what is proper "sailor talk?" I think it > depends more on where you're at and how you want to say something. > Anyway, I was in the Navy and we'd just have words in the squadron > that no one else knew... stuff that was made up and became common usage. > Well, I'm a wild-eyed liberal Democrat in general, but when it comes to boats, I turn into an old mossback conservative Republican, ever vigilant to suppress innovation and to protect Things That Are True Because I Believe Them to Be So. You should see that hairs rise on my neck when I hear talk about driving the boat. I don't go so far as to favor clipper bows and trailboards, but one of my boats does have a wooden mast & boom so I regard that aluminum spar set on the Cal 20 as pretty high tech. Chris Campbell

I'm of your ilk, Chris. But on the other hand, Marsh has a point. I get a kick out of reading old seagoing related reference works, the variations in nomenclature across time and space are pretty wide. I confess to liking jargon. This summer I fell in love. Stopped to talk with an intellegent looking blond at my marina early one morning, she was looking at the boats on my dock. I fell in love when I discovered that not only did she recognize wooden two-master as a bugeye, but further commented that she didn't know they were built in Gloucester, and also knew that 'niggerhead' was not a racial slur. To bad she was just passing through... td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 2:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Pushpit?? Marsh Wise wrote: Uh, how do you determine what is proper "sailor talk?" I think it depends more on where you're at and how you want to say something. Anyway, I was in the Navy and we'd just have words in the squadron that no one else knew... stuff that was made up and became common usage. Well, I'm a wild-eyed liberal Democrat in general, but when it comes to boats, I turn into an old mossback conservative Republican, ever vigilant to suppress innovation and to protect Things That Are True Because I Believe Them to Be So. You should see that hairs rise on my neck when I hear talk about driving the boat. I don't go so far as to favor clipper bows and trailboards, but one of my boats does have a wooden mast & boom so I regard that aluminum spar set on the Cal 20 as pretty high tech. Chris Campbell DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

Hmmm.... I'm not allowed to talk about politics. As to the other, suffice it to say I read Hornblower... Chris Campbell wrote: > Marsh Wise wrote: > >> Uh, how do you determine what is proper "sailor talk?" I think it >> depends more on where you're at and how you want to say something. >> Anyway, I was in the Navy and we'd just have words in the squadron >> that no one else knew... stuff that was made up and became common usage. >> > > > > > Well, I'm a wild-eyed liberal Democrat in general, but when it comes > to boats, I turn into an old mossback conservative Republican, ever > vigilant to suppress innovation and to protect Things That Are True > Because I Believe Them to Be So. You should see that hairs rise on my > neck when I hear talk about driving the boat. > > I don't go so far as to favor clipper bows and trailboards, but one of > my boats does have a wooden mast & boom so I regard that aluminum spar > set on the Cal 20 as pretty high tech. > > Chris Campbell > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

So it's nautical nomenclature ye want..... traditional or specialized, name your poison! shall we hold the after spring, and let-go for & aft. back the stay- sail to stbd till she points fr open water hoist the gaff and run the Ensign up the roach after letting go the spring. and yes, her rat-lines had dead-eyes. with cross-trees in her tops. and even a top-sail and flying jib. of course none of this kept *Albatross* from sailing like the pig she was..... but she was my pig! but in a more modern and specialized context, i have driven an ocean- going....... Hummmm. well, one would properly never address the thing as a *ship* even though it's displacement is equal to that of a WW-2 cruiser. and compared to a WW-2 cruiser, it is much better armored against a shell, bomb or torpedo hit. however, unlike a cruiser of that time or this; one *drives* this machine. and it is not even called a ship, but rather it is called a *boat*. and by-the way, the Navy is also where i learned to *Float-Test* numerous objects. none of which seemed to pass......... too bad; not unlike float-testing witches i guess. now the Navy is a great place to learn lots of new and innovative stuff. a *field-day* is an 8 hour time period once a week that happens on every floating object in the Navy, wether at sea or in port, at peace or at war. when every sailor and most *O-Divers* (offers) on board will turn-to and clean-ship from one to da-other, bulge to head-windows, shaft-nut to sonar-dome. then there is *Cranking*. to serve as a mess attendant and or dish-washer for a given period of time. enlisted only, and is a naval tradition. then for you Boys out there, there is always the *Short-Arm Inspection*. never seen one of those, but maybe Capt. Marsh can elaborate...... lastly, but not lest by any means, there is my personal favorite. the one that you will never find written in any book, but is known to every sailor (much to the chagrin of every Command). it's sort-of a time-honored social-greeting kind-of get-to-know-ya to sailors in a new port from girls who come aboard to see the ship (not that most girls could give two hoots & a holler). it's how a sailor (dumb as a door-nob) whos been too long at sea knows if he's got a chance or not. you see, most ships don't have anything like a star-way. what they have is hatch's and ladder's. and where a sailor learns to grab the rail and just drop down the hatch with his (or her) feet on the rail for balance, Zip! most no buddy else can do this with-out braking something vital. and most women instinctually know to never inter a mans country (board a ship) in a skirt. well unless she is saying something that is.... :)(: but most young men (sailors) don't get it. until...... and it is at that point the word goes out; *sn__ch-in-the hatch*! Ok, so all of that was a bit raw. well now i find myself having to learn a whole new sort of nomenclature of a sort. it is that of *Organic Chemistry*. it's not enough that i can visualize what i want or need. i must be able to read about it, look it up, ask for it by name, talk intelligently about it with a sales rep. and if need-be, dictate my own custom blend. all of this in order to balance the *VOC's) in a given polyester risen to the solids. and then customize the lay-up process to accommodate the changes in the formulation. to do that one must *See* the actions of molecules on a molecular level exchanging places with one-another. and or exchanging atomic orbits with each other. and all of this just to get a better hull or deck. i agree with most all of you. when i was a kid i just loved to bring words to school that on one else had ever heard before. and even better, i would use those words with the Swedish or German bent i would hear in the voices of the old men down at the drydock where my Father would let me listen to the guys off the Tugs when they came in. word's like *fo-k-sol*, and *cork-en*, and *wheel-house*. *Haw- sser*, *for-ed* & of course *aft*. maybe it was just being different, or possibly i didn't like the all-to-common *speak* of the day (just as i don't now). i apologize if my kidding with my Very Good Friend Mr. Marsh; up-set anyone. i think this is a great place to talk of Sailing, and anything to do with it........ fiver ***************************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@...> wrote: > > I'm of your ilk, Chris. But on the other hand, Marsh has a point. > I get a kick out of reading old seagoing related reference works, > the variations in nomenclature across time and space are pretty > wide. > > I confess to liking jargon. This summer I fell in love. Stopped to > talk with an intellegent looking blond at my marina early one > morning, she was looking at the boats on my dock. I fell in love > when I discovered that not only did she recognize wooden two-master > as a bugeye, but further commented that she didn't know they were > built in Gloucester, and also knew that 'niggerhead' was not a racial > slur. > > To bad she was just passing through... > > td > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 2:43 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Pushpit?? > > > > Marsh Wise wrote: > > > Uh, how do you determine what is proper "sailor talk?" I think it depends more on where you're at and how you want to say something. Anyway, I was in the Navy and we'd just have words in the squadron that no one else knew... stuff that was made up and became common usage. > > > > > > > Well, I'm a wild-eyed liberal Democrat in general, but when it comes to boats, I turn into an old mossback conservative Republican, ever vigilant to suppress innovation and to protect Things That Are True Because I Believe Them to Be So. You should see that hairs rise on my neck when I hear talk about driving the boat. > > I don't go so far as to favor clipper bows and trailboards, but one of my boats does have a wooden mast & boom so I regard that aluminum spar set on the Cal 20 as pretty high tech. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > > > > >

Hmmm, Marsh won't elaborate on that inspection. He also didn't "mess crank" -- he ran a tool room :-0 Well, okay, for ONE day in boot camp I did the mess crank thing -- it sucked. The rest of the time of "service week" I worked for the eye clinic :-Þ Anyway, for me, the Navy kinda bit... I was stationed in Key West in 1983 :-0 Not much to do... lotsa drinking and few women :-( Marsh slickbutfoxbuger wrote: >So it's nautical nomenclature ye want..... > >traditional or specialized, name your poison! > >shall we hold the after spring, and let-go for & aft. back the stay- >sail to stbd till she points fr open water hoist the gaff and run the >Ensign up the roach after letting go the spring. > >and yes, her rat-lines had dead-eyes. with cross-trees in her tops. >and even a top-sail and flying jib. of course none of this kept >*Albatross* from sailing like the pig she was..... but she was my >pig! > >but in a more modern and specialized context, i have driven an ocean- >going....... Hummmm. well, one would properly never address the thing >as a *ship* even though it's displacement is equal to that of a WW-2 >cruiser. and compared to a WW-2 cruiser, it is much better armored >against a shell, bomb or torpedo hit. however, unlike a cruiser of >that time or this; one *drives* this machine. and it is not even >called a ship, but rather it is called a *boat*. and by-the way, the >Navy is also where i learned to *Float-Test* numerous objects. none >of which seemed to pass......... too bad; not unlike float-testing >witches i guess. > >now the Navy is a great place to learn lots of new and innovative >stuff. a *field-day* is an 8 hour time period once a week that >happens on every floating object in the Navy, wether at sea or in >port, at peace or at war. when every sailor and most *O-Divers* >(offers) on board will turn-to and clean-ship from one to da-other, >bulge to head-windows, shaft-nut to sonar-dome. then there is >*Cranking*. to serve as a mess attendant and or dish-washer for a >given period of time. enlisted only, and is a naval tradition. then >for you Boys out there, there is always the *Short-Arm Inspection*. >never seen one of those, but maybe Capt. Marsh can elaborate...... > >lastly, but not lest by any means, there is my personal favorite. the >one that you will never find written in any book, but is known to >every sailor (much to the chagrin of every Command). it's sort-of a >time-honored social-greeting kind-of get-to-know-ya to sailors in a >new port from girls who come aboard to see the ship (not that most >girls could give two hoots & a holler). it's how a sailor (dumb as a >door-nob) whos been too long at sea knows if he's got a chance or >not. you see, most ships don't have anything like a star-way. what >they have is hatch's and ladder's. and where a sailor learns to grab >the rail and just drop down the hatch with his (or her) feet on the >rail for balance, Zip! most no buddy else can do this with-out >braking something vital. and most women instinctually know to never >inter a mans country (board a ship) in a skirt. well unless she is >saying something that is.... :)(: but most young men (sailors) >don't get it. until...... and it is at that point the word goes >out; *sn__ch-in-the hatch*! > >Ok, so all of that was a bit raw. >well now i find myself having to learn a whole new sort of >nomenclature of a sort. it is that of *Organic Chemistry*. it's not >enough that i can visualize what i want or need. i must be able to >read about it, look it up, ask for it by name, talk intelligently >about it with a sales rep. and if need-be, dictate my own custom >blend. all of this in order to balance the *VOC's) in a given >polyester risen to the solids. and then customize the lay-up process >to accommodate the changes in the formulation. to do that one must >*See* the actions of molecules on a molecular level exchanging places >with one-another. and or exchanging atomic orbits with each other. >and all of this just to get a better hull or deck. > >i agree with most all of you. when i was a kid i just loved to bring >words to school that on one else had ever heard before. and even >better, i would use those words with the Swedish or German bent i >would hear in the voices of the old men down at the drydock where my >Father would let me listen to the guys off the Tugs when they came >in. word's like *fo-k-sol*, and *cork-en*, and *wheel-house*. *Haw- >sser*, *for-ed* & of course *aft*. maybe it was just being different, >or possibly i didn't like the all-to-common *speak* of the day (just >as i don't now). i apologize if my kidding with my Very Good Friend >Mr. Marsh; up-set anyone. i think this is a great place to talk of >Sailing, and anything to do with it........ > > fiver > > > >***************************** >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Downing, Thomas" ><Thomas.Downing@...> wrote: > > >>I'm of your ilk, Chris. But on the other hand, Marsh has a point. >>I get a kick out of reading old seagoing related reference works, >>the variations in nomenclature across time and space are pretty >>wide. >> >>I confess to liking jargon. This summer I fell in love. Stopped to >>talk with an intellegent looking blond at my marina early one >>morning, she was looking at the boats on my dock. I fell in love >>when I discovered that not only did she recognize wooden two-master >>as a bugeye, but further commented that she didn't know they were >>built in Gloucester, and also knew that 'niggerhead' was not a >> >> >racial > > >>slur. >> >>To bad she was just passing through... >> >>td >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> >> >On Behalf Of Chris Campbell > > >>Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 2:43 PM >>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Pushpit?? >> >> >> >>Marsh Wise wrote: >> >> >>Uh, how do you determine what is proper "sailor talk?" I think it >> >> >depends more on where you're at and how you want to say something. >Anyway, I was in the Navy and we'd just have words in the squadron >that no one else knew... stuff that was made up and became common >usage. > > >> >> >> >> >>Well, I'm a wild-eyed liberal Democrat in general, but when it >> >> >comes to boats, I turn into an old mossback conservative Republican, >ever vigilant to suppress innovation and to protect Things That Are >True Because I Believe Them to Be So. You should see that hairs rise >on my neck when I hear talk about driving the boat. > > >>I don't go so far as to favor clipper bows and trailboards, but one >> >> >of my boats does have a wooden mast & boom so I regard that aluminum >spar set on the Cal 20 as pretty high tech. > > >>Chris Campbell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Chris Campbell <clcampbell@...> wrote: > an old mossback conservative Republican, ever > vigilant to suppress innovation and to protect Things That Are True > Because I Believe Them to Be So. Ya know, I'm offended by this remark and don't think that this forum is the place for any sort of politics that don't relate directly to boating no matter how subtle or covert. Your Freudian Projection isn't cute, clever, or appropriate on this venue, and is insulting to 50% of the population.

John Caldwell wrote: > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com>, > Chris Campbell <clcampbell@...> wrote: > > > an old mossback conservative Republican, ever > > vigilant to suppress innovation and to protect Things That Are True > > Because I Believe Them to Be So. > > Ya know, I'm offended by this remark > > Your Freudian Projection isn't cute, clever, or appropriate on this > venue, and is insulting to 50% of the population. > Actually, John, I also insulted the other 50% by referring to myself as a wild-eyed Dem liberal most of the time. I was trying to be an equal-opportunity critic. Sorry if I gave offense. I was hoping the readers would take it as a light-hearted joke about my own schizophrenia in such matters. You'll note that I didn't venture into religion, which is fraught with even greater peril. Chris Campbell

John and Chris, You both offended me because I offend too easily.... Mike Robinson Holiday To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: cl… [at] charterinternet.comDate: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:51:36 -0400Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Pushpit?? John Caldwell wrote: --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Chris Campbell <clcampbell@...> wrote:> an old mossback conservative Republican, ever > vigilant to suppress innovation and to protect Things That Are True > Because I Believe Them to Be So. Ya know, I'm offended by this remark Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "John Caldwell" <jacaldwell@...> wrote: > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Chris Campbell <clcampbell@> wrote: > > > an old mossback conservative Republican, ever > > vigilant to suppress innovation and to protect Things That Are True > > Because I Believe Them to Be So. > > Ya know, I'm offended by this remark and don't think that this forum is > the place for any sort of politics that don't relate directly to > boating no matter how subtle or covert. > > Your Freudian Projection isn't cute, clever, or appropriate on this > venue, and is insulting to 50% of the population. > I think it was harmless and would suggest ignoring it. And I am one. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "mtkennedy1" <mtkennedy1@...> wrote: > > I think it was harmless and would suggest ignoring it. And I am one. > > Mike Kennedy > Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > Cavalier, maybe. Without thought or consideration of others, and showing a true lack of diversity, definitely. Usually I do ignore such ignorant quips, then again, I don't want to let incrementaism slip by. And I'm still trying to figure out how "wild-eyed" is an equal slur in the same vain as "moss-backed".... Must me modern-day Newspeak.... In the end I just don't think this forum has any place for political beliefs or politics that don't concern boating in general or Cal boats in particular. Now, if we want to discuss LOST, well, could impact us all. I mean, really, who wants the UN governing the Great Lakes, Mississippi River, or any other lakes and streams - let alone our coasts?

yah, geese, people are so friggen sensitive these days... From: "mtkennedy1" <mt… [at] cox.net> To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:25:36 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Pushpit?? --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com , "John Caldwell" <jacaldwell@...> wrote: > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com , Chris Campbell <clcampbell@> wrote: > > > an old mossback conservative Republican, ever > > vigilant to suppress innovation and to protect Things That Are True > > Because I Believe Them to Be So. > > Ya know, I'm offended by this remark and don't think that this forum is > the place for any sort of politics that don't relate directly to > boating no matter how subtle or covert. > > Your Freudian Projection isn't cute, clever, or appropriate on this > venue, and is insulting to 50% of the population. > I think it was harmless and would suggest ignoring it. And I am one. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96