Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World

I am halfway through the book. While using the Internet to look up spots mentioned in the book, I discovered the whole book is already online for free: http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/js/saaw.htm

I read the reports. Hurricane Noel will become another "perfect storm" like the one that sank the Andrea Gail in 1991. Could be a great day to go out and sail in big waves and wind if your one of our listees on the right coast. Whooooieeee! Do it and report back on your exciting adventure on this "world's greatest list". But be careful. Don't fall overboard or anything! Jerry --- On Fri, 11/2/07, Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> wrote: From: Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 2, 2007, 7:19 PM I am halfway through the book. While using the Internet to look up spots mentioned in the book, I discovered the whole book is already online for free: http://www.ibiblio. org/eldritch/ js/saaw.htm

Jerry, are you giving a different meaning to the word "list". There will be close to 70 J/105s out in the Chesapeake today 25-30 knot winds doing short course W-L regatta stuff in the J/105 North Americans. That kind of air in short-period 4-5 foot chop is tough in close quarters. A San Francisco kind of day? Cheers Anyway Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Sobel Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:44 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: purrfict storm Noel was:Re: [Cal_Boats] Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World I read the reports. Hurricane Noel will become another "perfect storm" like the one that sank the Andrea Gail in 1991. Could be a great day to go out and sail in big waves and wind if your one of our listees on the right coast. Whooooieeee! Do it and report back on your exciting adventure on this "world's greatest list". But be careful. Don't fall overboard or anything! Jerry --- On Fri, 11/2/07, Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> wrote: From: Bruce Stirling <br… [at] stirlinglaw.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 2, 2007, 7:19 PM I am halfway through the book. While using the Internet to look up spots mentioned in the book, I discovered the whole book is already online for free: http://www.ibiblio. org/eldritch/ js/saaw.htm <http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/js/saaw.htm>

Bruce Stirling wrote: > > I am halfway through the book. While using the Internet to look up > spots mentioned in the book, I discovered the whole book is already > online for free: > > http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/js/saaw.htm > <http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/js/saaw.htm> > Reading a book online? Puts me in mind of Dr. Johnson's comment about women preaching: "Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all." It's remarkable that the book is available in that manner, but why would you want to read a whole book by staring at the computer screen? It makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. Chris Campbell

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Chris Campbell <clcampbell@...> wrote: > > Bruce Stirling wrote: > > > > I am halfway through the book. While using the Internet to look up > > spots mentioned in the book, I discovered the whole book is already > > online for free: > > > > http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/js/saaw.htm > > <http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/js/saaw.htm> > > > > > > > > > Reading a book online? Puts me in mind of Dr. Johnson's comment about > women preaching: "Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on > his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it > done at all." > > It's remarkable that the book is available in that manner, but why would > you want to read a whole book by staring at the computer screen? It > makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. New technology is coming with very thin screens that may even be flexible. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > Chris Campbell >

mtkennedy1 wrote: > > > > It's remarkable that the book is available in that manner, but why > would > > you want to read a whole book by staring at the computer screen? It > > makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. > > New technology is coming with very thin screens that may even be flexible. > I got in trouble before with political references so I'll just call myself a Luddite (English political reference) on this subject. For certain purposes, books--print on paper--beat all the electronic alternatives if you just want to read. They require no power source or power storage; they're always "on." You can read at leisure and stick a gum wrapper in to mark your place. You can flip back and forth from one page to another. If you drop a book, it's usually not damaged, certainly not to the point of being unusable. If you stick it on the shelf for a decade, it's immediately functional when you pick it up again. Now if I were writing an article on Slocum and wanted to quote liberally, or needed to search the text, electronic versions are helpful and superior. But for just reading, I'll choose the printed page. In fact, when I get long pieces via e-mail or web searches, I usually print them out to read because somehow print on paper is a friendlier medium. Chris Campbell

It's not copy protected, I highlighted, then copied it, then pasted it into word as well as his other works here. Now I can have a good read anytime or print it out. SteveM _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:04 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World mtkennedy1 wrote: > It's remarkable that the book is available in that manner, but why would > you want to read a whole book by staring at the computer screen? It > makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. New technology is coming with very thin screens that may even be flexible. I got in trouble before with political references so I'll just call myself a Luddite (English political reference) on this subject. For certain purposes, books--print on paper--beat all the electronic alternatives if you just want to read. They require no power source or power storage; they're always "on." You can read at leisure and stick a gum wrapper in to mark your place. You can flip back and forth from one page to another. If you drop a book, it's usually not damaged, certainly not to the point of being unusable. If you stick it on the shelf for a decade, it's immediately functional when you pick it up again. Now if I were writing an article on Slocum and wanted to quote liberally, or needed to search the text, electronic versions are helpful and superior. But for just reading, I'll choose the printed page. In fact, when I get long pieces via e-mail or web searches, I usually print them out to read because somehow print on paper is a friendlier medium. Chris Campbell

I've always described myself as a closet Luddite -- I'm what's called a software architect; I don't have a single computer at home. (I don't have a clock either, but that's another story). Books - man's best friends td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:04 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World mtkennedy1 wrote: > It's remarkable that the book is available in that manner, but why would > you want to read a whole book by staring at the computer screen? It > makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. New technology is coming with very thin screens that may even be flexible. I got in trouble before with political references so I'll just call myself a Luddite (English political reference) on this subject. For certain purposes, books--print on paper--beat all the electronic alternatives if you just want to read. They require no power source or power storage; they're always "on." You can read at leisure and stick a gum wrapper in to mark your place. You can flip back and forth from one page to another. If you drop a book, it's usually not damaged, certainly not to the point of being unusable. If you stick it on the shelf for a decade, it's immediately functional when you pick it up again. Now if I were writing an article on Slocum and wanted to quote liberally, or needed to search the text, electronic versions are helpful and superior. But for just reading, I'll choose the printed page. In fact, when I get long pieces via e-mail or web searches, I usually print them out to read because somehow print on paper is a friendlier medium. Chris Campbell DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@...> wrote: > > I've always described myself as a closet Luddite -- I'm what's called a > software architect; I don't have a single computer at home. > > (I don't have a clock either, but that's another story). > > Books - man's best friends I agree but my books are getting out of hand. I could see a role for a reader that is user friendly, and by that I mean resembling a book in physical appearance, and which would allow you to download books that you might not want to keep, such as trashy fiction or current events which might have a limited shelf life. I also have a small publishing company and am watching this development. Textbooks would be another application. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > td > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Campbell > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:04 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World > > > > mtkennedy1 wrote: > > > > > It's remarkable that the book is available in that manner, but why would > > you want to read a whole book by staring at the computer screen? It > > makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. > > New technology is coming with very thin screens that may even be flexible. > > > > > > > > > > > > I got in trouble before with political references so I'll just call myself a Luddite (English political reference) on this subject. For certain purposes, books--print on paper--beat all the electronic alternatives if you just want to read. They require no power source or power storage; they're always "on." You can read at leisure and stick a gum wrapper in to mark your place. You can flip back and forth from one page to another. If you drop a book, it's usually not damaged, certainly not to the point of being unusable. If you stick it on the shelf for a decade, it's immediately functional when you pick it up again. > > Now if I were writing an article on Slocum and wanted to quote liberally, or needed to search the text, electronic versions are helpful and superior. But for just reading, I'll choose the printed page. In fact, when I get long pieces via e-mail or web searches, I usually print them out to read because somehow print on paper is a friendlier medium. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: > Important Notice ************************************************* > This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. >

There's countless reasons why electronic publishing is a good thing (I love project gutenberg among other efforts) but as a life- style choice... Yes, I could be tempted by an electronic book reader fi: 1. It was very high resolution 2. It was very high contrast 3. I could select the fonts 4. The fonts were loadable (Freetype) 5. It used open standards for fonts and documents (Freetype and DOF) 6. It used open standards for I/O (USB, Firewire, Ethernet, WiFi) 7. It wasn't saddled with rediculous DRM (no pay-per-read, no anti-fair-use, no anti-first-point-of-sale) 8. It had an acceptable form factor 9. It was reasonably priced 10. It was based on FLOSS open source What are the odds? td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 1:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@...> wrote: > > I've always described myself as a closet Luddite -- I'm what's called a > software architect; I don't have a single computer at home. > > (I don't have a clock either, but that's another story). > > Books - man's best friends I agree but my books are getting out of hand. I could see a role for a reader that is user friendly, and by that I mean resembling a book in physical appearance, and which would allow you to download books that you might not want to keep, such as trashy fiction or current events which might have a limited shelf life. I also have a small publishing company and am watching this development. Textbooks would be another application. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > td > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com [mailto: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com]On Behalf Of Chris Campbell > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:04 PM > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World > > > > mtkennedy1 wrote: > > > > > It's remarkable that the book is available in that manner, but why would > > you want to read a whole book by staring at the computer screen? It > > makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. > > New technology is coming with very thin screens that may even be flexible. > > > > > > > > > > > > I got in trouble before with political references so I'll just call myself a Luddite (English political reference) on this subject. For certain purposes, books--print on paper--beat all the electronic alternatives if you just want to read. They require no power source or power storage; they're always "on." You can read at leisure and stick a gum wrapper in to mark your place. You can flip back and forth from one page to another. If you drop a book, it's usually not damaged, certainly not to the point of being unusable. If you stick it on the shelf for a decade, it's immediately functional when you pick it up again. > > Now if I were writing an article on Slocum and wanted to quote liberally, or needed to search the text, electronic versions are helpful and superior. But for just reading, I'll choose the printed page. In fact, when I get long pieces via e-mail or web searches, I usually print them out to read because somehow print on paper is a friendlier medium. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: > Important Notice ************************************************* > This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. 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Sony Reader, maybe but it's pricey. mtkennedy1 wrote: >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@...> wrote: > > >>I've always described myself as a closet Luddite -- I'm what's called a >>software architect; I don't have a single computer at home. >> >>(I don't have a clock either, but that's another story). >> >>Books - man's best friends >> >> > >I agree but my books are getting out of hand. I could see a role for a reader that is user >friendly, and by that I mean resembling a book in physical appearance, and which would >allow you to download books that you might not want to keep, such as trashy fiction or >current events which might have a limited shelf life. I also have a small publishing >company and am watching this development. Textbooks would be another application. > >Mike Kennedy >Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > >> >>td >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of >> >> >Chris Campbell > > >>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:04 PM >>To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >>Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World >> >> >> >>mtkennedy1 wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>It's remarkable that the book is available in that manner, but why would >>>you want to read a whole book by staring at the computer screen? It >>>makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. >>> >>> >>New technology is coming with very thin screens that may even be flexible. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I got in trouble before with political references so I'll just call myself a Luddite (English >> >> >political reference) on this subject. For certain purposes, books--print on paper--beat all >the electronic alternatives if you just want to read. They require no power source or power >storage; they're always "on." You can read at leisure and stick a gum wrapper in to mark >your place. You can flip back and forth from one page to another. If you drop a book, it's >usually not damaged, certainly not to the point of being unusable. If you stick it on the >shelf for a decade, it's immediately functional when you pick it up again. > > >>Now if I were writing an article on Slocum and wanted to quote liberally, or needed to >> >> >search the text, electronic versions are helpful and superior. But for just reading, I'll >choose the printed page. In fact, when I get long pieces via e-mail or web searches, I >usually print them out to read because somehow print on paper is a friendlier medium. > > >>Chris Campbell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>DISCLAIMER: >>Important Notice ************************************************* >>This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise >> >> >protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not >duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify >the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from >taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain >computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or >may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the >intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail >messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the >right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, >monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- Marsh Wise Webmaster: -reenactor.Net: http://www.reenactor.net/ -Foresthill.us: http://www.foresthill.us/ -Legio IX Hispana Penna: http://www.reenactor.net/units/legio_ix_penna/ - 17. Luftwaffe Feld-Division <http://www.reenactor.net/units/17lwfd/> Assistant Webmaster: -VAQ-33 Squadron site: http://www.reenactor.net/vaq-33/ Proud Member (meaning I can just have fun...) -LEGIO IX HISPANA COH III Penna Chapter: http://www.legio-ix-hispana.org/ Netscape Aim/AOL screen name: Sturmkatze Yahoo Messenger screen name: sturmkatze Alteris renumera duplum de quoquo tibi numeraverunt Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.... But then I repeat myself. ~Mark Twain *Last: Hey Dammit! Have you visited the reenactor.Net FORvMS? If not, WHY NOT? Gett your butt over to: http://www.reenactor.net/forums/index.php right now!

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Marsh Wise <marsh@...> wrote: > > Sony Reader, maybe but it's pricey. > > mtkennedy1 wrote: > > >--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@> wrote: > > > > This is new technology and involves very thin film led technology. It's not here yet but in a couple of years, could be. Here, read about it yourself: <http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pulsed-Laser-Deposition-Thin- Films/dp/0471447099> Here's more: <http://www.electronicproducts.com/ShowPage.asp? FileName=poy.jan2005.HTML> And here: <http://www.eink.com/press/releases/pr87.html> Not here yet but coming. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96

Yeah, our company stays on top of display tech. Cool stuff comming. I also have the physical book problem. Every vertical surface in my house is a book case. Most every horizontal surface has books on it. Every time I take a couple three boxes to donate to a book sale, I always come back with some books. It never ends. Growing up we did not get much of anything in the line of presents, or goodies of any sort, but theree was ALWAYS money to buy books. td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 3:31 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, Marsh Wise <marsh@...> wrote: > > Sony Reader, maybe but it's pricey. > > mtkennedy1 wrote: > > >--- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@> wrote: > > > > This is new technology and involves very thin film led technology. It's not here yet but in a couple of years, could be. Here, read about it yourself: < http://www.amazon. <http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pulsed-Laser-Deposition-Thin-> co.uk/Pulsed-Laser-Deposition-Thin- Films/dp/0471447099> Here's more: < http://www.electron <http://www.electronicproducts.com/ShowPage.asp?> icproducts.com/ShowPage.asp? FileName=poy.jan2005.HTML> And here: < http://www.eink. <http://www.eink.com/press/releases/pr87.html> com/press/releases/pr87.html> Not here yet but coming. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.

Downing, Thomas wrote: > > > > > > Growing up we did not get much of anything in the line of presents, or > goodies of any sort, but theree was ALWAYS money to buy books. > I've got a bunch of kids' books from various points in my childhood. They're still legible (well, a few of the earliest ones are pretty beat up) and useful. A lot of them bring back very specific memories--some about the text, some about the illustrations, some about the persons who gave them to me. A couple that were friends of my mother from her childhood came to visit and brought me a collection of Booth Tarkington stories. I've still got it and it always reminds me of them (as does putting a gasket on almost anything--the husband helped me find the spider web in the 1938 Johnson 2 hp outboard's carburetor when I was about 8 years old, and showed me how to reassemble it properly so as not to damage the gasket). At some point, my parents bought a little used GE radio/phono with a single-play 78 rpm turntable in the top, and bought a bunch of those little 7" 78 rpm kids' records for me to play. They're still playable but only if you have access to the ancient technology of 78 rpm analog playback. I happen to have that since I'm a complete sucker for old electronic equipment, especially audio stuff, but I imagine that for 95% of the public, these recordings would not be not accessible at all. The point is that print is a durable technology, and that electronic storage is likely to become obsolete and irretrievable much faster than print. For some things that may not matter but I like the idea of being able to go to my bookcase and grab the Tarkington volume, or Joshua Slocum, if I have an impulse to do so. Fore sailing content here, let's remember that electronic navigation equipment like GPS-linked electronic charts are extremely convenient, highly seductive, and somewhat fragile. It's why we're always cautioned to carry paper charts and, if we're belt-and-suspenders types, to plot our course and maintain fixes on them. Now I've become as entranced as the next guy by the little image of my boat moving along the chart , but I try to attend all the navigation and piloting sessions our schooner group offers as a way of keeping some navigation skills in my brain. It's a chance to exercise those skills that, truth be known, I don't always exercise aboard the boat. Chris Campbell

Hey, the digital world just keeps getting better. Check out The New Yorker's latest take on the online collections now available: http://www.newyorker.com/online/2007/11/05/071105on_onlineonly_grafton From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:44 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@...> wrote: > > I've always described myself as a closet Luddite -- I'm what's called a > software architect; I don't have a single computer at home. > > (I don't have a clock either, but that's another story). > > Books - man's best friends I agree but my books are getting out of hand. I could see a role for a reader that is user friendly, and by that I mean resembling a book in physical appearance, and which would allow you to download books that you might not want to keep, such as trashy fiction or current events which might have a limited shelf life. I also have a small publishing company and am watching this development. Textbooks would be another application. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > td > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Campbell > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:04 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World > > > > mtkennedy1 wrote: > > > > > It's remarkable that the book is available in that manner, but why would > > you want to read a whole book by staring at the computer screen? It > > makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. > > New technology is coming with very thin screens that may even be flexible. > > > > > > > > > > > > I got in trouble before with political references so I'll just call myself a Luddite (English political reference) on this subject. For certain purposes, books--print on paper--beat all the electronic alternatives if you just want to read. They require no power source or power storage; they're always "on." You can read at leisure and stick a gum wrapper in to mark your place. You can flip back and forth from one page to another. If you drop a book, it's usually not damaged, certainly not to the point of being unusable. If you stick it on the shelf for a decade, it's immediately functional when you pick it up again. > > Now if I were writing an article on Slocum and wanted to quote liberally, or needed to search the text, electronic versions are helpful and superior. But for just reading, I'll choose the printed page. In fact, when I get long pieces via e-mail or web searches, I usually print them out to read because somehow print on paper is a friendlier medium. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: > Important Notice ************************************************* > This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. >

Here are human voice recorded marine tales - audio books for free: http://www.audiobooksforfree.com/browse/Fiction/Adventures/Marine-Adventure From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Stirling Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:25 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World Hey, the digital world just keeps getting better. Check out The New Yorker's latest take on the online collections now available: http://www.newyorker.com/online/2007/11/05/071105on_onlineonly_grafton From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:44 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@...> wrote: > > I've always described myself as a closet Luddite -- I'm what's called a > software architect; I don't have a single computer at home. > > (I don't have a clock either, but that's another story). > > Books - man's best friends I agree but my books are getting out of hand. I could see a role for a reader that is user friendly, and by that I mean resembling a book in physical appearance, and which would allow you to download books that you might not want to keep, such as trashy fiction or current events which might have a limited shelf life. I also have a small publishing company and am watching this development. Textbooks would be another application. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > td > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Campbell > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:04 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World > > > > mtkennedy1 wrote: > > > > > It's remarkable that the book is available in that manner, but why would > > you want to read a whole book by staring at the computer screen? It > > makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. > > New technology is coming with very thin screens that may even be flexible. > > > > > > > > > > > > I got in trouble before with political references so I'll just call myself a Luddite (English political reference) on this subject. For certain purposes, books--print on paper--beat all the electronic alternatives if you just want to read. They require no power source or power storage; they're always "on." You can read at leisure and stick a gum wrapper in to mark your place. You can flip back and forth from one page to another. If you drop a book, it's usually not damaged, certainly not to the point of being unusable. If you stick it on the shelf for a decade, it's immediately functional when you pick it up again. > > Now if I were writing an article on Slocum and wanted to quote liberally, or needed to search the text, electronic versions are helpful and superior. But for just reading, I'll choose the printed page. In fact, when I get long pieces via e-mail or web searches, I usually print them out to read because somehow print on paper is a friendlier medium. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: > Important Notice ************************************************* > This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. >

Much appreciated if you could change the title when the topic changes. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Stirling Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:00 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World Here are human voice recorded marine tales - audio books for free: http://www.audiobooksforfree.com/browse/Fiction/Adventures/Marine-Advent ure From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Stirling Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:25 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World Hey, the digital world just keeps getting better. Check out The New Yorker's latest take on the online collections now available: http://www.newyorker.com/online/2007/11/05/071105on_onlineonly_grafton <http://www.newyorker.com/online/2007/11/05/071105on_onlineonly_grafton> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:44 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , "Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@...> wrote: > > I've always described myself as a closet Luddite -- I'm what's called a > software architect; I don't have a single computer at home. > > (I don't have a clock either, but that's another story). > > Books - man's best friends I agree but my books are getting out of hand. I could see a role for a reader that is user friendly, and by that I mean resembling a book in physical appearance, and which would allow you to download books that you might not want to keep, such as trashy fiction or current events which might have a limited shelf life. I also have a small publishing company and am watching this development. Textbooks would be another application. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > td > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ]On Behalf Of Chris Campbell > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:04 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World > > > > mtkennedy1 wrote: > > > > > It's remarkable that the book is available in that manner, but why would > > you want to read a whole book by staring at the computer screen? It > > makes my neck hurt just thinking about it. > > New technology is coming with very thin screens that may even be flexible. > > > > > > > > > > > > I got in trouble before with political references so I'll just call myself a Luddite (English political reference) on this subject. For certain purposes, books--print on paper--beat all the electronic alternatives if you just want to read. They require no power source or power storage; they're always "on." You can read at leisure and stick a gum wrapper in to mark your place. You can flip back and forth from one page to another. If you drop a book, it's usually not damaged, certainly not to the point of being unusable. If you stick it on the shelf for a decade, it's immediately functional when you pick it up again. > > Now if I were writing an article on Slocum and wanted to quote liberally, or needed to search the text, electronic versions are helpful and superior. But for just reading, I'll choose the printed page. In fact, when I get long pieces via e-mail or web searches, I usually print them out to read because somehow print on paper is a friendlier medium. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: > Important Notice ************************************************* > This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. >

Electronic stuff becoming illegible is a real issue. This is why I lobby for ODF (Open Document Format.) Doesn't solve the media issue, but does solve the rosetta stone problem. I still have recordings of 'The Land of Green Ginger' and 'Yurtle the Turrtle'. Sailing content - my boat has several generous lockers and some shelves. They're all full of - you guessed it. But if you're not out sailing late on a gorgeous afternoon, then next best thing is sitting in the cockpit reading. td From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:48 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Capt. Joshua Slocum's Sailing Alone Around the World Downing, Thomas wrote: Growing up we did not get much of anything in the line of presents, or goodies of any sort, but theree was ALWAYS money to buy books. I've got a bunch of kids' books from various points in my childhood. They're still legible (well, a few of the earliest ones are pretty beat up) and useful. A lot of them bring back very specific memories--some about the text, some about the illustrations, some about the persons who gave them to me. A couple that were friends of my mother from her childhood came to visit and brought me a collection of Booth Tarkington stories. I've still got it and it always reminds me of them (as does putting a gasket on almost anything--the husband helped me find the spider web in the 1938 Johnson 2 hp outboard's carburetor when I was about 8 years old, and showed me how to reassemble it properly so as not to damage the gasket). At some point, my parents bought a little used GE radio/phono with a single-play 78 rpm turntable in the top, and bought a bunch of those little 7" 78 rpm kids' records for me to play. They're still playable but only if you have access to the ancient technology of 78 rpm analog playback. I happen to have that since I'm a complete sucker for old electronic equipment, especially audio stuff, but I imagine that for 95% of the public, these recordings would not be not accessible at all. The point is that print is a durable technology, and that electronic storage is likely to become obsolete and irretrievable much faster than print. For some things that may not matter but I like the idea of being able to go to my bookcase and grab the Tarkington volume, or Joshua Slocum, if I have an impulse to do so. Fore sailing content here, let's remember that electronic navigation equipment like GPS-linked electronic charts are extremely convenient, highly seductive, and somewhat fragile. It's why we're always cautioned to carry paper charts and, if we're belt-and-suspenders types, to plot our course and maintain fixes on them. Now I've become as entranced as the next guy by the little image of my boat moving along the chart , but I try to attend all the navigation and piloting sessions our schooner group offers as a way of keeping some navigation skills in my brain. It's a chance to exercise those skills that, truth be known, I don't always exercise aboard the boat. Chris Campbell DISCLAIMER: Important Notice ************************************************* This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems.