CAL 33 who built

BANGOR PUNTA bought JENSEN MARINE in 1965, so all CALs built from 1965 to 1985-6 were built by a Bangor Punta owned company, LEAR SIEGLER bought CAL/O'DAY in around 1985-6 and owned the company until about 1988 or so when a group of investors bought the company only to go bankrupt in 1989. Lear Siegler also bought the Starcraft boats division of Bangor Punta, and the CAL/O'DAY part was actually called "Starcraft Sailboats" Division of Lear Siegler for a while. Rod Johnson, "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21, #285

Two of the 3 cal 33 sailboats in our marina (86 and newer) have hull ID beginning with CAB. One begins with STR. To me, it looks like they changed the ID after the hull was cast. (is that the right term for producing a fiberglass hull in a mold?) On my switch panel, it says Cal boats, two of the other have Lear Siegler. While all three boats look identical, some of the trim details vary in all three boats. Some may have been owner options, or post commissioning modifications. All three are great boats! John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney G Johnson Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:54 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] CAL 33 who built BANGOR PUNTA bought JENSEN MARINE in 1965, so all CALs built from 1965 to 1985-6 were built by a Bangor Punta owned company, LEAR SIEGLER bought CAL/O'DAY in around 1985-6 and owned the company until about 1988 or so when a group of investors bought the company only to go bankrupt in 1989. Lear Siegler also bought the Starcraft boats division of Bangor Punta, and the CAL/O'DAY part was actually called "Starcraft Sailboats" Division of Lear Siegler for a while. Rod Johnson, "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21, #285

It was my understanding that a venture called "Little Compton Yachts" bought the molds from Lear Siegler in the late 80s or early 90s. A friend of mine went to the Annapolis show in that time frame and brought me a brochure that looks exactly like the brochure my PO had with the boat except it had "Little Compton Yachts" rubber stamped on it it blue ink. I thought they made a few boats and theirs had walkthrough transoms and a few other design changes. Al Waschka 1974 Cal-25 #1693, Sweet Mary 1985 Cal-33 #0026, Short Wave john raxter wrote: > Two of the 3 cal 33 sailboats in our marina (86 and newer) have hull > ID beginning with CAB. One begins with STR. To me, it looks like > they changed the ID after the hull was cast. (is that the right term > for producing a fiberglass hull in a mold?) On my switch panel, it > says Cal boats, two of the other have Lear Siegler. > > While all three boats look identical, some of the trim details vary in > all three boats. Some may have been owner options, or post > commissioning modifications. All three are great boats! > > John > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Rodney G Johnson > > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:54 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] CAL 33 who built > BANGOR PUNTA bought JENSEN MARINE in 1965, so all CALs built from 1965 > to 1985-6 were built by a Bangor Punta owned company, LEAR SIEGLER > bought CAL/O'DAY in around 1985-6 and owned the company until about > 1988 or so when a group of investors bought the company only to go > bankrupt in 1989. Lear Siegler also bought the Starcraft boats > division of Bangor Punta, and the CAL/O'DAY part was actually called > "Starcraft Sailboats" Division of Lear Siegler for a while. > Rod > Johnson, "NODROG" > 1970 > CAL 21, #285 >

There is one '90 something Cal 33 in oriental. The owner kept it at our marina for a few months waiting on a temp/perm slip elsewhere on the river. There was no "walk thru" transom. They did add a "sugar scoop" where the bottom 6" or so creates a step, with the stern ladder vertical to climb over the seats.(stern rail and backstay per the original design) This was the only "obvious" change I remember. They may have modified some of the interior, I did not go below or climb aboard to check out the deck rigging layout. It was also built as the full draft at 6' plus. Not really a problem in Oriental as long as you recognize the shallow water markers (crab pots) J TYMLL John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Waschka Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:03 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:[Cal_Boats] CAL 33 who built It was my understanding that a venture called "Little Compton Yachts" bought the molds from Lear Siegler in the late 80s or early 90s. A friend of mine went to the Annapolis show in that time frame and brought me a brochure that looks exactly like the brochure my PO had with the boat except it had "Little Compton Yachts" rubber stamped on it it blue ink. I thought they made a few boats and theirs had walkthrough transoms and a few other design changes. Al Waschka 1974 Cal-25 #1693, Sweet Mary 1985 Cal-33 #0026, Short Wave john raxter wrote: > Two of the 3 cal 33 sailboats in our marina (86 and newer) have hull > ID beginning with CAB. One begins with STR. To me, it looks like > they changed the ID after the hull was cast. (is that the right term > for producing a fiberglass hull in a mold?) On my switch panel, it > says Cal boats, two of the other have Lear Siegler. > > While all three boats look identical, some of the trim details vary in > all three boats. Some may have been owner options, or post > commissioning modifications. All three are great boats! > > John > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of Rodney G Johnson > > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:54 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] CAL 33 who built > BANGOR PUNTA bought JENSEN MARINE in 1965, so all CALs built from 1965 > to 1985-6 were built by a Bangor Punta owned company, LEAR SIEGLER > bought CAL/O'DAY in around 1985-6 and owned the company until about > 1988 or so when a group of investors bought the company only to go > bankrupt in 1989. Lear Siegler also bought the Starcraft boats > division of Bangor Punta, and the CAL/O'DAY part was actually called > "Starcraft Sailboats" Division of Lear Siegler for a while. > Rod > Johnson, "NODROG" > 1970 > CAL 21, #285 >

john raxter wrote: > > Two of the 3 cal 33 sailboats in our marina (86 and newer) have hull > ID beginning with CAB. One begins with STR. To me, it looks like > they changed the ID after the hull was cast. (is that the right term > for producing a fiberglass hull in a mold?) On my switch panel, it > says Cal boats, two of the other have Lear Siegler. > > > > While all three boats look identical, some of the trim details vary in > all three boats. Some may have been owner options, or post > commissioning modifications. All three are great boats! > > > The latest _Sailing_ magazine has a short article on the 50th anniversary of Jenneau. It mentions that at one point they were bought by Bangor Punta and that in that period, one Jenneau model was built by Cal and another by O'Day. It goes on to say that even though it's now owned by Beneteau, it maintains independent-company status (i.e., it's not like General Motors, with different brand names stuck onto the same car). Chris Campbell

Hey Chris, Wasn't it another Chris on the list that had the Cal 20 something that was the "same as" the Ranger Fun? I think this was the Jenneau Connection between Cal/Ranger/Jenneau and another designer besides Lapworth, Holland or Hunt. They are all great boats. YMMV, John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:33 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] CAL 33 who built john raxter wrote: Two of the 3 cal 33 sailboats in our marina (86 and newer) have hull ID beginning with CAB. One begins with STR. To me, it looks like they changed the ID after the hull was cast. (is that the right term for producing a fiberglass hull in a mold?) On my switch panel, it says Cal boats, two of the other have Lear Siegler. While all three boats look identical, some of the trim details vary in all three boats. Some may have been owner options, or post commissioning modifications. All three are great boats! The latest Sailing magazine has a short article on the 50th anniversary of Jenneau. It mentions that at one point they were bought by Bangor Punta and that in that period, one Jenneau model was built by Cal and another by O'Day. It goes on to say that even though it's now owned by Beneteau, it maintains independent-company status (i.e., it's not like General Motors, with different brand names stuck onto the same car). Chris Campbell

Perhaps you mean Gary Mull? See: http://www.members.dca.net/pwink/ranger/garymull.htm From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of john raxter Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:03 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] CAL 33 who built Hey Chris, Wasn't it another Chris on the list that had the Cal 20 something that was the "same as" the Ranger Fun? I think this was the Jenneau Connection between Cal/Ranger/Jenneau and another designer besides Lapworth, Holland or Hunt. They are all great boats. YMMV, John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:33 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] CAL 33 who built john raxter wrote: Two of the 3 cal 33 sailboats in our marina (86 and newer) have hull ID beginning with CAB. One begins with STR. To me, it looks like they changed the ID after the hull was cast. (is that the right term for producing a fiberglass hull in a mold?) On my switch panel, it says Cal boats, two of the other have Lear Siegler. While all three boats look identical, some of the trim details vary in all three boats. Some may have been owner options, or post commissioning modifications. All three are great boats! The latest Sailing magazine has a short article on the 50th anniversary of Jenneau. It mentions that at one point they were bought by Bangor Punta and that in that period, one Jenneau model was built by Cal and another by O'Day. It goes on to say that even though it's now owned by Beneteau, it maintains independent-company status (i.e., it's not like General Motors, with different brand names stuck onto the same car). Chris Campbell

Forgot to mention, you need to scroll way down to get to the Ranger and Cal history mentioned in the article. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Stirling Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] CAL 33 who built Perhaps you mean Gary Mull? See: http://www.members.dca.net/pwink/ranger/garymull.htm From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of john raxter Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:03 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] CAL 33 who built Hey Chris, Wasn't it another Chris on the list that had the Cal 20 something that was the "same as" the Ranger Fun? I think this was the Jenneau Connection between Cal/Ranger/Jenneau and another designer besides Lapworth, Holland or Hunt. They are all great boats. YMMV, John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:33 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM][Cal_Boats] CAL 33 who built john raxter wrote: Two of the 3 cal 33 sailboats in our marina (86 and newer) have hull ID beginning with CAB. One begins with STR. To me, it looks like they changed the ID after the hull was cast. (is that the right term for producing a fiberglass hull in a mold?) On my switch panel, it says Cal boats, two of the other have Lear Siegler. While all three boats look identical, some of the trim details vary in all three boats. Some may have been owner options, or post commissioning modifications. All three are great boats! The latest Sailing magazine has a short article on the 50th anniversary of Jenneau. It mentions that at one point they were bought by Bangor Punta and that in that period, one Jenneau model was built by Cal and another by O'Day. It goes on to say that even though it's now owned by Beneteau, it maintains independent-company status (i.e., it's not like General Motors, with different brand names stuck onto the same car). Chris Campbell