Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 40 Manual and Rig Dimensions

My boat came with a manual. Interesting, but if I remember not a lot of hard information. I'll try to remember to get it off of the boat. I don't think that it had rig dimensions. It did say don't make the rig too tight. John From: mtkennedy1 <mt… [at] cox.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 6:19:00 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 40 Manual and Rig Dimensions --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "mkmcelhaney" <mike@...> wrote: > > I noticed folks asking for manuals on the Cal-27. We have some content > in our "files" section of the group for our various vessels, but > nothing for a Cal-40. Is there a web location where we can acquire > this info? I'll check on Fin's site again, but are there other > resources? Thanks. I have some original documents on the 40, such as the original price list and the sales brochure. I'm not sure there is a manual, per se. I tried to up load the brochure to Flikr but the files are too big. The high res scan of the front of the brochure is 66 MB. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ

Finally remembered to get the manual off of the boat, sorry it took so long. It does give standing rigging dimensions: Headstay 9/32" 1x19 s/s x 46' 2 1/4" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank Backstay 1/4" 1x19 s/s x 49' 11" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank Uppers 1/4" 1x19 s/s x 44' 8 1/4" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank Fwd. Lowers 1/4" 1x19 s/s x 23' 6 1/2" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank Aft. Lowers 9/32" 1x19 s/s x 23' 6 1/2" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank I'd measure what I have rather than trust that nobody has changed anything on the rig in 40 years. Anything else you're interested in? John From: John Courter <ca… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:28:22 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 40 Manual and Rig Dimensions My boat came with a manual. Interesting, but if I remember not a lot of hard information. I'll try to remember to get it off of the boat. I don't think that it had rig dimensions. It did say don't make the rig too tight. John From: mtkennedy1 <mtkennedy1@cox. net> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 6:19:00 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 40 Manual and Rig Dimensions --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "mkmcelhaney" <mike@...> wrote: > > I noticed folks asking for manuals on the Cal-27. We have some content > in our "files" section of the group for our various vessels, but > nothing for a Cal-40. Is there a web location where we can acquire > this info? I'll check on Fin's site again, but are there other > resources? Thanks. I have some original documents on the 40, such as the original price list and the sales brochure. I'm not sure there is a manual, per se. I tried to up load the brochure to Flikr but the files are too big. The high res scan of the front of the brochure is 66 MB. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, John Courter <cal40john@...> wrote: > > Finally remembered to get the manual off of the boat, sorry it took so long. > > It does give standing rigging dimensions: > > Headstay 9/32" 1x19 s/s x 46' 2 1/4" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank > Backstay 1/4" 1x19 s/s x 49' 11" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank > Uppers 1/4" 1x19 s/s x 44' 8 1/4" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank > Fwd. Lowers 1/4" 1x19 s/s x 23' 6 1/2" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank > Aft. Lowers 9/32" 1x19 s/s x 23' 6 1/2" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank > > I'd measure what I have rather than trust that nobody has changed anything on the rig in 40 years. > > Anything else you're interested in? I am closer to getting the Cal 40 history site up. I have decided to put the book manuscript on the web in hopes that people who keep promising to send photos and stories (many have), will see that it really is happening. Publishing such a book would be expensive and I don't even know how much of a market there would be. The manuscript is about 125 pages so far. One item that will be part of the site is a section with manuals and price lists from when the boat was new. I have, for example, a mimeographed options price list for the Cal 40. Anyway, after the first of the year, I'll get it up. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 PS the rig should be tight only when sailing. If you leave it tight in the slip, pretty soon it is loose. And the boat looks like a banana. > > John > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: John Courter <cal40john@...> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:28:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 40 Manual and Rig Dimensions > > My boat came with a manual. Interesting, but if I remember not a lot of hard information. I'll try to remember to get it off of the boat. > > I don't think that it had rig dimensions. It did say don't make the rig too tight. > > John

On Monday 24 December 2007 07:26:09 pm mtkennedy1 wrote: <snip> > Publishing such a book would be expensive and I don't even know how much of > a market there would be. The manuscript is about 125 pages so far. You may want to take a look at http://lulu.com an online publishing resource. All I know about it is that it was started by Bob Young, once he sold his options in Red Hat and left the company. Originally he was a publisher then a computer sales man, when accounts were still door to door. He's a rather creative fellow Canadian so it may be worth investigating. Merry Christmas. -- /ch

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Chris H <chris123@...> wrote: > > On Monday 24 December 2007 07:26:09 pm mtkennedy1 wrote: > > <snip> > > > Publishing such a book would be expensive and I don't even know how much of > > a market there would be. The manuscript is about 125 pages so far. > > You may want to take a look at http://lulu.com an online publishing resource. > All I know about it is that it was started by Bob Young, once he sold his > options in Red Hat and left the company. Originally he was a publisher then a > computer sales man, when accounts were still door to door. He's a rather > creative fellow Canadian so it may be worth investigating. I have some experience with publishing. http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Disease-Science-Medicine/dp/0974946648 That book is near the end of its second printing. The problem with the Cal 40 book is getting info from private parties who have photos and histories of family members. Also the book would probably be a coffee table type bopk and some marine companies might be interested. Assembling the history is the hard part. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > Merry Christmas. > > -- > /ch >

On Tuesday 25 December 2007 01:00:44 am mtkennedy1 wrote: > > Also the book would probably be a coffee table type bopk and some marine > companies might be interested. Assembling the history is the hard part. My apologies. I thought that the issue was low volume printing which can get rather expensive and where online publishers excel as its print on demand. I wish you every success and look forward to purchasing a copy when released. -- /ch

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Chris H <chris123@...> wrote: > > On Tuesday 25 December 2007 01:00:44 am mtkennedy1 wrote: > > > > > Also the book would probably be a coffee table type bopk and some marine > > companies might be interested. Assembling the history is the hard part. > > My apologies. I thought that the issue was low volume printing which can get > rather expensive and where online publishers excel as its print on demand. POD does not do well with photos. Anyway, it will be a web site before it is a book if ever. > > I wish you every success and look forward to purchasing a copy when released. Thanks, Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > -- > /ch >

mtkennedy1 wrote: > > > PS the rig should be tight only when sailing. If you leave it tight in > the slip, pretty soon it > is loose. And the boat looks like a banana. > So what's your practice--unload and then retighten the turnbuckles by a fixed number of turns? Or is this just a matter of slacking a hydraulic backstay? Chris Campbell

mtkennedy1 wrote: > > > > I have some experience with publishing. > > http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Disease-Science-Medicine/dp/0974946648 > <http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Disease-Science-Medicine/dp/0974946648> > > That book is near the end of its second printing. > I contributed to your sales success by purchasing two volumes, giving them to my brother and brother-in-law, both orthopedic surgeons. I just examined the reader reviews in your Amazon link. I'll probably need to borrow one back to read, since my usual practice is to give others books that I'd like to read. My father, in the same line of work, received his medical training 1939-49, with time out for WW II and then some fellowships. He seemed to have received more background in the history of medicine than the next generation did. I often grin when spotting a prominent tattoo, which reminds me of Dad's recollection of one teacher who called the tattoo a "cutaneous Wasserman." That's more of a bias than a matter of history but it's worth noting that none of Dad's kids (or their offspring) sport tattoos. And on the general subject of books, if you have any suggestion for a donee organization for Dad's beautifully bound collection of the /Journal of Bone & Joint Surgery/, British & American issues, 1948-84, please pass it along. Chris Campbell

--- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Chris Campbell <clcampbell@...> wrote: > > mtkennedy1 wrote: > > > > > > PS the rig should be tight only when sailing. If you leave it tight in > > the slip, pretty soon it > > is loose. And the boat looks like a banana. > > > > > > > > So what's your practice--unload and then retighten the turnbuckles by a > fixed number of turns? Or is this just a matter of slacking a hydraulic > backstay? I leave the backstay slack when not sailing. The shrouds are tensioned under sail and should be left that way. I would not tighten beyond what is necessary to keep the mast straight. Rod rigging has almost no "give" so once they are adjusted, they should be good for the season. Wire rigging will show a lot more give and should be slack when on the other tack. I would probably take a look at them under sail every few weeks but rod doesn't show much change when untensioned. It is all about a straight mast. The backstay is what makes banana boats. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > Chris Campbell >

Howdy, Mike and All. I like the term "banana boat". My usual term for the same thing is to "fold up like a taco". Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mtkennedy1 Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 12:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 40 Manual and Rig Dimensions --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, Chris Campbell <clcampbell@...> wrote: > > mtkennedy1 wrote: > > > > > > PS the rig should be tight only when sailing. If you leave it tight > > in the slip, pretty soon it is loose. And the boat looks like a > > banana. > > > > > > > > So what's your practice--unload and then retighten the turnbuckles by > a fixed number of turns? Or is this just a matter of slacking a > hydraulic backstay? I leave the backstay slack when not sailing. The shrouds are tensioned under sail and should be left that way. I would not tighten beyond what is necessary to keep the mast straight. Rod rigging has almost no "give" so once they are adjusted, they should be good for the season. Wire rigging will show a lot more give and should be slack when on the other tack. I would probably take a look at them under sail every few weeks but rod doesn't show much change when untensioned. It is all about a straight mast. The backstay is what makes banana boats. Mike Kennedy Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > Chris Campbell > Yahoo! Groups Links

Thank you for that information. It's a starting point. I will measure everything on my own since our surveyor says that the rigging is oversized and I know that the bowsprit lengthened the forestay a few feet. I'll actually get the chance here in a few days when Beth and I FINALLY get to Marathon to pick up the boat. We left Vegas on the 21st of Dec, stopped to visit family in KS and am currently typing this from a KOA campground in Baton Rouge aboard our 21' land yacht, Betsy-Alice 3, a 1978 Winnebago, en route to Fla. [B-)] --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, John Courter <cal40john@...> wrote: > > Finally remembered to get the manual off of the boat, sorry it took so long. > > It does give standing rigging dimensions: > > Headstay 9/32" 1x19 s/s x 46' 2 1/4" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank > Backstay 1/4" 1x19 s/s x 49' 11" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank > Uppers 1/4" 1x19 s/s x 44' 8 1/4" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank > Fwd. Lowers 1/4" 1x19 s/s x 23' 6 1/2" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank > Aft. Lowers 9/32" 1x19 s/s x 23' 6 1/2" Marine eye & 1/2" thd. Shank > > I'd measure what I have rather than trust that nobody has changed anything on the rig in 40 years. > > Anything else you're interested in? > > John > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: John Courter cal40john@... > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:28:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 40 Manual and Rig Dimensions > > My boat came with a manual. Interesting, but if I remember not a lot of hard information. I'll try to remember to get it off of the boat. > > I don't think that it had rig dimensions. It did say don't make the rig too tight. > > John > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mtkennedy1 mtkennedy1@cox. net> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 6:19:00 PM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 40 Manual and Rig Dimensions > > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "mkmcelhaney" mike@ wrote: > > > > I noticed folks asking for manuals on the Cal-27. We have some content > > in our "files" section of the group for our various vessels, but > > nothing for a Cal-40. Is there a web location where we can acquire > > this info? I'll check on Fin's site again, but are there other > > resources? Thanks. > > I have some original documents on the 40, such as the original price list and the sales > brochure. I'm not sure there is a manual, per se. I tried to up load the brochure to Flikr but > the files are too big. The high res scan of the front of the brochure is 66 MB. > > Mike Kennedy > Conquest Cal 40 # 96 > > > > > > > > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________\ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >