Re: [Cal_Boats]Your Cal 24 (Jerry)

Re: [Cal_Boats]Your Cal 24 (Jerry)

3 messages2008-01-07 16:32 UTCthrough 2008-01-08 16:47 UTC

Re: [Cal_Boats]Your Cal 24 (Jerry)

ai… [at] aol.com2008-01-07 16:32 UTC
Jerry, I am curious about your boat. For starters, didn't you say that your centerboard fell into the ocean and you no longer have one? Second, with that being the case, isn't your boat now a non-conforming boat. (i.e.. based on your PHRF Rating)? It seems to me , not having the weight of the centerboard would be a big advantage in light winds. Have any of your competitors confronted you on this? Daniel Casey "AirTime" Cal 9.2R #75 Santa Barbara **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Re: [Cal_Boats]Your Cal 24 (Jerry)

Gerald Sobel2008-01-07 17:27 UTC
Daniel, good question, I have told my competitors about this. Mainly, it's a big disadvantage because of two things, one is the long open slit that is draggy, two, the boat doesn't point worth a damn, as everyone else will easily out point me by ten degrees, and altho the centerboard doesn't help much, it gave me a tiny bit more lateral resistance aft which allowed the main to trim better, as now I have to crack open the mainsail more otherwise I get lots of weather helm. Consequentlly I can't fly my 155 genoa as it moves the center of effort aft. Yes, I lost some weight but I still have 800 lbs of lead in the cutaway full keel which runs from just below the mast to past the end of the waterline where the keel attaches. The CB is so narrow that up or down, it doesn't seem to have any effect going down wind that I can tell. I know this from matching racing another boat that was sailing on a broad reach/down wind in front of me, we didn't budge distance wise from his stern. My 800# of lead isn't as effective since my full keel draws 2.5 feet, so not exactly high aspect ratio, or leverage. Most of my stability is the relative wide beam of my boat, 8', and moving crew weight, like a dingy. With three crew the stability is fantastic! I think the reason I did well yesterday is two fold, better sailing, and yes, overall the Cal 24 is lighter per sq. ft. and does accelerate in puffs a bit better. Also I have two crew, but we are heavy guys so we carry nearly as much weight, and I don't empty my boat of junk, inflatables, spare parts like some others do. Therefore, I wish I had my poor CB back. I think my biggest help yesterday was trying to stay on the best tack early on, and paying attention to constant changing wind direction, and not altering course everytime it did when the wind was very puffy. And, oh yes, sail trim. Jerry --- On Mon, 1/7/08, ai… [at] aol.com <ai… [at] aol.com> wrote: From: ai… [at] aol.com <ai… [at] aol.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats]Your Cal 24 (Jerry) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 7, 2008, 8:32 AM Jerry, I am curious about your boat. For starters, didn't you say that your centerboard fell into the ocean and you no longer have one? Second, with that being the case, isn't your boat now a non-conforming boat. (i.e.. based on your PHRF Rating)? It seems to me , not having the weight of the centerboard would be a big advantage in light winds. Have any of your competitors confronted you on this? Daniel Casey "AirTime" Cal 9.2R #75 Santa Barbara Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

Re: [Cal_Boats]Your Cal 24 (Jerry)

ai… [at] aol.com2008-01-08 16:47 UTC
Jolly Good, Thanks Jerry. Although it would frustrate the heck out of me not being able to point. Daniel Casey "AirTime" Cal 9.2R #75 Santa Barbara **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489