Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........

9 messages2008-01-20 22:15 UTCthrough 2008-01-21 21:22

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........

steve cahill2008-01-20 22:15 UTC
Ok 5'er, put down the adult beverage and step away from the keyboard. Steve. From: slickbutfoxbuger <fi… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:42:31 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........ pardon me once more..... (am not too bright on such subjects) but can not only one spreader be *too weather* at a time, as the other would surrly be *to lee*....... :)(: 5er...... ************ * --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Wilkie" <wilkie@...> wrote: > > > > one leaves them out in the sun and weather.... > > Wilkie > > _____ > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf > Of slickbutfoxbuger > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:12 AM > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders... ..... > > > > not too be difficult or anything.... ... > > but if one may ask; > just how does one *wear-out* a par of spreaders... ...? > > is that like a calculation of say; > Va x Ds over Bl = Ex-LfTm > > where Va= life-time volume of air > Ds= average density of air > Bl= Bling-bling > Ex-LfTm= expected lifetime > > Oh, before i forget. be sure to take into consideration the added > *weight-aloft* of new *High-Bling* aluminum spreaders over spruce (if > such is the case)....... ... > > (disregard all before; unless for the case of amassment... ....) > > fiver...... :)(: > > ************ ********* *** > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_ Boats%40yahoogro ups.com> ps.com, > steven.j.urbanski@ wrote: > > > > Fellow Listees, > > > > I will be replacing my spreaders and am considering the custom > Airfoil > > Aluminum that is offered by JSI. See: > > > > http://www.newjsi. <http://www.newjsi. com/spars_ spreaders. aspx> > com/spars_spreaders .aspx > > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated ! > > > > Thanks ! > > > > Steve > > > > > > - For more information about UL, its Marks, and its services for > > EMC, quality registrations and product certifications for global > > markets, please access our web sites at http://www.ul. <http://www.ul. com> > com and > > http://www.ulc. <http://www.ulc. ca> ca or contact your local sales > representative. -- > > > > ********* Internet E-mail Confidentiality Disclaimer ********** > > This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential > > information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not > > disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this > > message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail > > message in error, please return by forwarding the message and > > its attachments to the sender. > > > > UL and its affiliates do not accept liability for any errors, > > omissions, corruption or virus in the contents of this message > > or any attachments. > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ******** > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

Re: Spreaders........

slickbutfoxbuger2008-01-21 00:04
But Steve! we neither drink nor smoke, Honest!!!! just our way of having a little clean funning once in a while....... fiver will note that *Rog* has the art of making carbon-fiber spreders down-pat....... (very low-weight aloft/extremely High-Bling) <giggles......> fiver, Master of The "BB-54" one of the famous Cal-28 flush-decks out of Sierra-5, Papa Hotel (in days gone by) now hove-too, not 10' south of my front porch; in my Sister Karen's one acre back yard....... (built like a Battleship; sails like a Sub......) ****************************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, steve cahill <scahill57@...> wrote: > > Ok 5'er, put down the adult beverage and step away from the keyboard. Steve. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: slickbutfoxbuger <fiverhrairoo@...> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:42:31 PM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........ > > pardon me once more..... > (am not too bright on such subjects) > > but can not only one spreader be *too weather* at a time, > as the other would surrly be *to lee*....... :)(: > > 5er...... > > ************ * > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Wilkie" <wilkie@> wrote: > > > > > > > > one leaves them out in the sun and weather.... > > > > Wilkie > > > > _____ > > > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] > On Behalf > > Of slickbutfoxbuger > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:12 AM > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders... ..... > > > > > > > > not too be difficult or anything.... ... > > > > but if one may ask; > > just how does one *wear-out* a par of spreaders... ...? > > > > is that like a calculation of say; > > Va x Ds over Bl = Ex-LfTm > > > > where Va= life-time volume of air > > Ds= average density of air > > Bl= Bling-bling > > Ex-LfTm= expected lifetime > > > > Oh, before i forget. be sure to take into consideration the added > > *weight-aloft* of new *High-Bling* aluminum spreaders over spruce > (if > > such is the case)....... ... > > > > (disregard all before; unless for the case of amassment... ....) > > > > fiver...... :)(: > > > > ************ ********* *** > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_ Boats%40yahoogro ups.com> > ps.com, > > steven.j.urbanski@ wrote: > > > > > > Fellow Listees, > > > > > > I will be replacing my spreaders and am considering the custom > > Airfoil > > > Aluminum that is offered by JSI. See: > > > > > > http://www.newjsi. <http://www.newjsi. com/spars_ spreaders. aspx> > > com/spars_spreaders .aspx > > > > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated ! > > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > - For more information about UL, its Marks, and its services for > > > EMC, quality registrations and product certifications for global > > > markets, please access our web sites at http://www.ul. > <http://www.ul. com> > > com and > > > http://www.ulc. <http://www.ulc. ca> ca or contact your local sales > > representative. -- > > > > > > ********* Internet E-mail Confidentiality Disclaimer ********** > > > This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential > > > information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not > > > disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this > > > message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail > > > message in error, please return by forwarding the message and > > > its attachments to the sender. > > > > > > UL and its affiliates do not accept liability for any errors, > > > omissions, corruption or virus in the contents of this message > > > or any attachments. > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ******** > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........

Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting)2008-01-21 01:25 UTC
It would be great to get a specification and method on building carbon fiber spreaders. Will carbon hold up year after year in the Sun? Does anyone have a source for the material prelaminated in sheets of different sizes and thickness? Then we could simply cutout the desired part/shapes and machine to fit. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: slickbutfoxbuger To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........ But Steve! we neither drink nor smoke, Honest!!!! just our way of having a little clean funning once in a while....... fiver will note that *Rog* has the art of making carbon-fiber spreders down-pat....... (very low-weight aloft/extremely High-Bling) <giggles......> fiver, Master of The "BB-54" one of the famous Cal-28 flush-decks out of Sierra-5, Papa Hotel (in days gone by) now hove-too, not 10' south of my front porch; in my Sister Karen's one acre back yard....... (built like a Battleship; sails like a Sub......) ****************************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, steve cahill <scahill57@...> wrote: > > Ok 5'er, put down the adult beverage and step away from the keyboard. Steve. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: slickbutfoxbuger <fiverhrairoo@...> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:42:31 PM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........ > > pardon me once more..... > (am not too bright on such subjects) > > but can not only one spreader be *too weather* at a time, > as the other would surrly be *to lee*....... :)(: > > 5er...... > > ************ * > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Wilkie" <wilkie@> wrote: > > > > > > > > one leaves them out in the sun and weather.... > > > > Wilkie > > > > _____ > > > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] > On Behalf > > Of slickbutfoxbuger > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:12 AM > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders... ..... > > > > > > > > not too be difficult or anything.... ... > > > > but if one may ask; > > just how does one *wear-out* a par of spreaders... ...? > > > > is that like a calculation of say; > > Va x Ds over Bl = Ex-LfTm > > > > where Va= life-time volume of air > > Ds= average density of air > > Bl= Bling-bling > > Ex-LfTm= expected lifetime > > > > Oh, before i forget. be sure to take into consideration the added > > *weight-aloft* of new *High-Bling* aluminum spreaders over spruce > (if > > such is the case)....... ... > > > > (disregard all before; unless for the case of amassment... ....) > > > > fiver...... :)(: > > > > ************ ********* *** > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_ Boats%40yahoogro ups.com> > ps.com, > > steven.j.urbanski@ wrote: > > > > > > Fellow Listees, > > > > > > I will be replacing my spreaders and am considering the custom > > Airfoil > > > Aluminum that is offered by JSI. See: > > > > > > http://www.newjsi. <http://www.newjsi. com/spars_ spreaders. aspx> > > com/spars_spreaders .aspx > > > > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated ! > > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > - For more information about UL, its Marks, and its services for > > > EMC, quality registrations and product certifications for global > > > markets, please access our web sites at http://www.ul. > <http://www.ul. com> > > com and > > > http://www.ulc. <http://www.ulc. ca> ca or contact your local sales > > representative. -- > > > > > > ********* Internet E-mail Confidentiality Disclaimer ********** > > > This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential > > > information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not > > > disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this > > > message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail > > > message in error, please return by forwarding the message and > > > its attachments to the sender. > > > > > > UL and its affiliates do not accept liability for any errors, > > > omissions, corruption or virus in the contents of this message > > > or any attachments. > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ******** > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ ______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >

RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........

Husar, Charlie [USA]2008-01-21 03:47 UTC
Hi, Alan. My understanding is that working with CF is more complex than that. The orientation of the weave and the bonding must be done just so to put the strength in the right orientation. I, for one, would not trust myself to know enough to do it right. Cheers, Anyway Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:25 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........ It would be great to get a specification and method on building carbon fiber spreaders. Will carbon hold up year after year in the Sun? Does anyone have a source for the material prelaminated in sheets of different sizes and thickness? Then we could simply cutout the desired part/shapes and machine to fit. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: slickbutfoxbuger <mailto:fi… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........ But Steve! we neither drink nor smoke, Honest!!!! just our way of having a little clean funning once in a while....... fiver will note that *Rog* has the art of making carbon-fiber spreders down-pat....... (very low-weight aloft/extremely High-Bling) <giggles......> fiver, Master of The "BB-54" one of the famous Cal-28 flush-decks out of Sierra-5, Papa Hotel (in days gone by) now hove-too, not 10' south of my front porch; in my Sister Karen's one acre back yard....... (built like a Battleship; sails like a Sub......) ****************************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , steve cahill <scahill57@...> wrote: > > Ok 5'er, put down the adult beverage and step away from the keyboard. Steve. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: slickbutfoxbuger <fiverhrairoo@...> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:42:31 PM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........ > > pardon me once more..... > (am not too bright on such subjects) > > but can not only one spreader be *too weather* at a time, > as the other would surrly be *to lee*....... :)(: > > 5er...... > > ************ * > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Wilkie" <wilkie@> wrote: > > > > > > > > one leaves them out in the sun and weather.... > > > > Wilkie > > > > _____ > > > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] > On Behalf > > Of slickbutfoxbuger > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:12 AM > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders... ..... > > > > > > > > not too be difficult or anything.... ... > > > > but if one may ask; > > just how does one *wear-out* a par of spreaders... ...? > > > > is that like a calculation of say; > > Va x Ds over Bl = Ex-LfTm > > > > where Va= life-time volume of air > > Ds= average density of air > > Bl= Bling-bling > > Ex-LfTm= expected lifetime > > > > Oh, before i forget. be sure to take into consideration the added > > *weight-aloft* of new *High-Bling* aluminum spreaders over spruce > (if > > such is the case)....... ... > > > > (disregard all before; unless for the case of amassment... ....) > > > > fiver...... :)(: > > > > ************ ********* *** > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_ Boats%40yahoogro ups.com> > ps.com, > > steven.j.urbanski@ wrote: > > > > > > Fellow Listees, > > > > > > I will be replacing my spreaders and am considering the custom > > Airfoil > > > Aluminum that is offered by JSI. See: > > > > > > http://www.newjsi. <http://www.newjsi. com/spars_ spreaders. aspx> > > com/spars_spreaders .aspx > > > > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated ! > > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > - For more information about UL, its Marks, and its services for > > > EMC, quality registrations and product certifications for global > > > markets, please access our web sites at http://www.ul. > <http://www.ul. com> > > com and > > > http://www.ulc. <http://www.ulc. ca> ca or contact your local sales > > representative. -- > > > > > > ********* Internet E-mail Confidentiality Disclaimer ********** > > > This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential > > > information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not > > > disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this > > > message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail > > > message in error, please return by forwarding the message and > > > its attachments to the sender. > > > > > > UL and its affiliates do not accept liability for any errors, > > > omissions, corruption or virus in the contents of this message > > > or any attachments. > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ******** > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ ______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ <http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........

Paulson2008-01-21 04:06 UTC
Try a company called Composites One we use them in trying to make composite bike seats Dave Paulson Alllergia Channel Ilands ca ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Alan Stahnke (MAS Consulting) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........ It would be great to get a specification and method on building carbon fiber spreaders. Will carbon hold up year after year in the Sun? Does anyone have a source for the material prelaminated in sheets of different sizes and thickness? Then we could simply cutout the desired part/shapes and machine to fit. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: slickbutfoxbuger To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........ But Steve! we neither drink nor smoke, Honest!!!! just our way of having a little clean funning once in a while....... fiver will note that *Rog* has the art of making carbon-fiber spreders down-pat....... (very low-weight aloft/extremely High-Bling) <giggles......> fiver, Master of The "BB-54" one of the famous Cal-28 flush-decks out of Sierra-5, Papa Hotel (in days gone by) now hove-too, not 10' south of my front porch; in my Sister Karen's one acre back yard....... (built like a Battleship; sails like a Sub......) ****************************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, steve cahill <scahill57@...> wrote: > > Ok 5'er, put down the adult beverage and step away from the keyboard. Steve. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: slickbutfoxbuger <fiverhrairoo@...> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:42:31 PM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........ > > pardon me once more..... > (am not too bright on such subjects) > > but can not only one spreader be *too weather* at a time, > as the other would surrly be *to lee*....... :)(: > > 5er...... > > ************ * > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Wilkie" <wilkie@> wrote: > > > > > > > > one leaves them out in the sun and weather.... > > > > Wilkie > > > > _____ > > > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] > On Behalf > > Of slickbutfoxbuger > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:12 AM > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders... ..... > > > > > > > > not too be difficult or anything.... ... > > > > but if one may ask; > > just how does one *wear-out* a par of spreaders... ...? > > > > is that like a calculation of say; > > Va x Ds over Bl = Ex-LfTm > > > > where Va= life-time volume of air > > Ds= average density of air > > Bl= Bling-bling > > Ex-LfTm= expected lifetime > > > > Oh, before i forget. be sure to take into consideration the added > > *weight-aloft* of new *High-Bling* aluminum spreaders over spruce > (if > > such is the case)....... ... > > > > (disregard all before; unless for the case of amassment... ....) > > > > fiver...... :)(: > > > > ************ ********* *** > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_ Boats%40yahoogro ups.com> > ps.com, > > steven.j.urbanski@ wrote: > > > > > > Fellow Listees, > > > > > > I will be replacing my spreaders and am considering the custom > > Airfoil > > > Aluminum that is offered by JSI. See: > > > > > > http://www.newjsi. <http://www.newjsi. com/spars_ spreaders. aspx> > > com/spars_spreaders .aspx > > > > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated ! > > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > - For more information about UL, its Marks, and its services for > > > EMC, quality registrations and product certifications for global > > > markets, please access our web sites at http://www.ul. > <http://www.ul. com> > > com and > > > http://www.ulc. <http://www.ulc. ca> ca or contact your local sales > > representative. -- > > > > > > ********* Internet E-mail Confidentiality Disclaimer ********** > > > This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential > > > information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not > > > disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this > > > message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail > > > message in error, please return by forwarding the message and > > > its attachments to the sender. > > > > > > UL and its affiliates do not accept liability for any errors, > > > omissions, corruption or virus in the contents of this message > > > or any attachments. > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ******** > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ ______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >

Re: Spreaders........

Mike2008-01-21 04:11
What a timely post! Beth and I need new spreaders as well. When we took the mast down, the spreaders literally crumbled in our hands. She's been soaking in the tropics for a long time. It's a good thing we elected to truck our girl up to Pensacola instead of sailing her. She has other "issues" as well :-( Anyway, I was told by Tom and Bobbi Vandiver that since I need to replace them, to do it with aluminum. Pricey, yes, but worth the peace of mind. They had spreader problems before and replaced wood for wood. The replacement lasted about 5 years. Their "new" aluminum spreaders have been on the boat for about the last 12 years as well as I can guess. Coincidentally, I talked with Don Gober back at Lake Mead yesterday, and he suggested the same spreader shop. Mike and Beth Celtic Naut Cal 40 #44 At the Redneck Riviera! :-)

Re: Spreaders........ and Bling

slickbutfoxbuger2008-01-21 05:01
Ok, ok...... if'in all you folks want to talk *serious spreader's*.... fiver will bite! just as i had thought to go one-size down from my mast to arrive at a stout boom for BB-54...... i will most probably go two size's down to arrive at a nice stout par of aerodynamic spreaders...... ie; the cal-20 mast-section........ (witch as chance would have it, fiver has some of here on the farm) supper-strong, supper-light, adequate-bling-factor....... :)(: 5er *********************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mike@...> wrote: > > What a timely post! Beth and I need new spreaders as well. When we > took the mast down, the spreaders literally crumbled in our hands. > She's been soaking in the tropics for a long time. It's a good thing > we elected to truck our girl up to Pensacola instead of sailing her. > She has other "issues" as well :-( > Anyway, I was told by Tom and Bobbi Vandiver that since I need to > replace them, to do it with aluminum. Pricey, yes, but worth the peace > of mind. They had spreader problems before and replaced wood for wood. > The replacement lasted about 5 years. Their "new" aluminum spreaders > have been on the boat for about the last 12 years as well as I can guess. > Coincidentally, I talked with Don Gober back at Lake Mead yesterday, > and he suggested the same spreader shop. > > Mike and Beth > Celtic Naut > Cal 40 #44 > At the Redneck Riviera! :-) >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........

steve cahill2008-01-21 20:30 UTC
Fiver---I guess I'm just getting nervous about all this talk about blinging up the spreaders. Makes me wonder what mine look like. I'll be sending the Mrs up to have a look at 'em as soon as the weather breaks. Steve. From: slickbutfoxbuger <fi… [at] aol.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:04:10 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........ But Steve! we neither drink nor smoke, Honest!!!! just our way of having a little clean funning once in a while....... fiver will note that *Rog* has the art of making carbon-fiber spreders down-pat.... ... (very low-weight aloft/extremely High-Bling) <giggles.... ..> fiver, Master of The "BB-54" one of the famous Cal-28 flush-decks out of Sierra-5, Papa Hotel (in days gone by) now hove-too, not 10' south of my front porch; in my Sister Karen's one acre back yard....... (built like a Battleship; sails like a Sub......) ************ ********* ********* --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, steve cahill <scahill57@. ..> wrote: > > Ok 5'er, put down the adult beverage and step away from the keyboard. Steve. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: slickbutfoxbuger <fiverhrairoo@ ...> > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:42:31 PM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders... ..... > > pardon me once more..... > (am not too bright on such subjects) > > but can not only one spreader be *too weather* at a time, > as the other would surrly be *to lee*....... :)(: > > 5er...... > > ************ * > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Wilkie" <wilkie@> wrote: > > > > > > > > one leaves them out in the sun and weather.... > > > > Wilkie > > > > _____ > > > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] > On Behalf > > Of slickbutfoxbuger > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:12 AM > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders... ..... > > > > > > > > not too be difficult or anything.... ... > > > > but if one may ask; > > just how does one *wear-out* a par of spreaders... ...? > > > > is that like a calculation of say; > > Va x Ds over Bl = Ex-LfTm > > > > where Va= life-time volume of air > > Ds= average density of air > > Bl= Bling-bling > > Ex-LfTm= expected lifetime > > > > Oh, before i forget. be sure to take into consideration the added > > *weight-aloft* of new *High-Bling* aluminum spreaders over spruce > (if > > such is the case)....... ... > > > > (disregard all before; unless for the case of amassment... ....) > > > > fiver...... :)(: > > > > ************ ********* *** > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_ Boats%40yahoogro ups.com> > ps.com, > > steven.j.urbanski@ wrote: > > > > > > Fellow Listees, > > > > > > I will be replacing my spreaders and am considering the custom > > Airfoil > > > Aluminum that is offered by JSI. See: > > > > > > http://www.newjsi. <http://www.newjsi. com/spars_ spreaders. aspx> > > com/spars_spreaders .aspx > > > > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated ! > > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > - For more information about UL, its Marks, and its services for > > > EMC, quality registrations and product certifications for global > > > markets, please access our web sites at http://www.ul. > <http://www.ul. com> > > com and > > > http://www.ulc. <http://www.ulc. ca> ca or contact your local sales > > representative. -- > > > > > > ********* Internet E-mail Confidentiality Disclaimer ********** > > > This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential > > > information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not > > > disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this > > > message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail > > > message in error, please return by forwarding the message and > > > its attachments to the sender. > > > > > > UL and its affiliates do not accept liability for any errors, > > > omissions, corruption or virus in the contents of this message > > > or any attachments. > > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ******** > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ __ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

Re: Spreaders........

slickbutfoxbuger2008-01-21 21:22
truthfully now, Steve; the only reason i am changing the ones out on my boat is this. first off, there is not a damn thing wrong with the nearly half-century old wooden par. however, as need to dry-sail BB-54; the mast will need to go up and down like a yo-yo. for that reason alone i will build stouter ones. but too, i am adding 5 foot the mast's length. so they will need to be moved, and i may need to change their geometry. then of course, there is always the *bling-factor*. i am replacing every stitch of running and standing rig on the boat. wooden anything seem a bit out of place along-side *Lewmar high-load* blocks and such....... if it were not for these, i would not bother changing her spreaders, Steve...... 5er *************************** --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, steve cahill <scahill57@...> wrote: > > Fiver---I guess I'm just getting nervous about all this talk about blinging up the spreaders. Makes me wonder what mine look like. I'll be sending the Mrs up to have a look at 'em as soon as the weather breaks. Steve. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: slickbutfoxbuger <fiverhrairoo@...> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:04:10 PM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders........ > > But Steve! > we neither drink nor smoke, > Honest!!!! > > just our way of having a little clean funning once in a while....... > > fiver will note that *Rog* has the art of making carbon-fiber > spreders down-pat.... ... (very low-weight aloft/extremely High- Bling) > > <giggles.... ..> > > fiver, > Master of The "BB-54" > one of the famous Cal-28 flush-decks > out of Sierra-5, Papa Hotel (in days gone by) > now hove-too, not 10' south of my front porch; > in my Sister Karen's one acre back yard....... > > (built like a Battleship; sails like a Sub......) > > ************ ********* ********* > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, steve cahill <scahill57@ ..> wrote: > > > > Ok 5'er, put down the adult beverage and step away from the > keyboard. Steve. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: slickbutfoxbuger <fiverhrairoo@ ...> > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:42:31 PM > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders... ..... > > > > pardon me once more..... > > (am not too bright on such subjects) > > > > but can not only one spreader be *too weather* at a time, > > as the other would surrly be *to lee*....... :)(: > > > > 5er...... > > > > ************ * > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com, "Wilkie" <wilkie@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > one leaves them out in the sun and weather.... > > > > > > Wilkie > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogrou > ps.com] > > On Behalf > > > Of slickbutfoxbuger > > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:12 AM > > > To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com > > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Spreaders... ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > not too be difficult or anything.... ... > > > > > > but if one may ask; > > > just how does one *wear-out* a par of spreaders... ...? > > > > > > is that like a calculation of say; > > > Va x Ds over Bl = Ex-LfTm > > > > > > where Va= life-time volume of air > > > Ds= average density of air > > > Bl= Bling-bling > > > Ex-LfTm= expected lifetime > > > > > > Oh, before i forget. be sure to take into consideration the added > > > *weight-aloft* of new *High-Bling* aluminum spreaders over spruce > > (if > > > such is the case)....... ... > > > > > > (disregard all before; unless for the case of amassment... ....) > > > > > > fiver...... :)(: > > > > > > ************ ********* *** > > > --- In Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Cal_ Boats%40yahoogro ups.com> > > ps.com, > > > steven.j.urbanski@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Fellow Listees, > > > > > > > > I will be replacing my spreaders and am considering the custom > > > Airfoil > > > > Aluminum that is offered by JSI. See: > > > > > > > > http://www.newjsi. <http://www.newjsi. com/spars_ spreaders. > aspx> > > > com/spars_spreaders .aspx > > > > > > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated ! > > > > > > > > Thanks ! > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > - For more information about UL, its Marks, and its services for > > > > EMC, quality registrations and product certifications for global > > > > markets, please access our web sites at http://www.ul. > > <http://www.ul. com> > > > com and > > > > http://www.ulc. <http://www.ulc. ca> ca or contact your local > sales > > > representative. -- > > > > > > > > ********* Internet E-mail Confidentiality Disclaimer ********** > > > > This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential > > > > information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not > > > > disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this > > > > message or attachment in any way. 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