7 messages2008-01-25 08:03 UTCthrough 2008-01-25 19:59 UTC
the lone sailor......
fi… [at] aol.com2008-01-25 08:03 UTC
in all honesty;
i think the Sailor who is willing to sail mono-on-mono has much
without necessarily specking at all. and i further believe the more extreme weather
such men are willing to sail; the greater is their personal reward.
it's one thing to sail or maneuver a vessel if you are simply one of
10 or 15 bridge-crew who respond at the bridge-officer's orders. but to be
near or at the top of that chain of command; well that's not a place for the
faint-of-heart.
and what-if such bridge crew were only 5 in number. and you had
commonly taken the place of number two. could you simply give that up once you left
whatever vessel on which you served.....
well..... many can, but a few can't. it's this observers opinion that
where one has once held, and grown accustomed too, such levels of
responsibility, it is more than easily taken up once again when time and circumstance
calls. i also think this ability has cross-over's from the civilian world as
well. i see that man whom sails alone in all weather as a likely through-back
too the "alpha-male" example in the animal world.
and it is no wonder to fiver that such men, as few as they are; don't
find that other's much-like the rigor's of sailing "Their-Way". if it were an
easily followed way then would not every warm-water guy with a chick (or two)
and a *42 Hunter* be out doing it........ no i think not.....
but i'll sail with such Men just as i did in the days of my ill-spent
youth. days when i knew i couldn't die because i and my Capt. were better than
the other-side!
i will freely admit that i want it back; the days of high-risk and
un-sung glory....... the responsibility for several thousands of tons of
red-killing orca. Hell-Yes! who-the-hell wouldn't........
it's the man who's not the slightest bit concerned with the *toes*
whale commanding what's needed when her rails are awash. that is the only boat
this girl will sail until her own command is launched.
if your wife sail's with you guys, i have only one question to ask. is
she just the cook, or has she done her time before the mast.....
fiver.....
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RE: [Cal_Boats] the lone sailor......(fiver)
rick2008-01-25 15:53 UTC
Well said Fiver. I always enjoy your emails. I can honestly say my admiral
has definitely done her time before the mast. I recollect a trip back to
Squalicum harbor from Sucia with steady winds at 35 with gusts to 50 and
that little 5'2" 95lb woman on the foredeck hauling down the genoa (before
we installed the roller furler) and spending half the time suspended in the
air above deck due to the steep wave action that develops in Bellingham Bay.
Granted this event caused the Admiral to order a furler be installed, but
the point is she gamely did it without complaint. Her preferential way of
sailing is with rails awash. She doesn't like going out in the light air
days of August. She much prefers the gales of spring and Fall. I just have
to get her to go out in the frigid gales of winter. 1 thing at a time.
When we first married, she informed me she didn't like to sail. Oops! I
should have found out about that little detail ahead of time. However she
has definitely developed a taste for sailing. In fact she is the one who
found our Cal and insisted we buy her. She has come a long ways.
Rick Lobb
Cal 2-29 "Rebecca Shea"
Bellingham, WA
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From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of fi… [at] aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:03 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] the lone sailor......
in all honesty;
i think the Sailor who is willing to sail mono-on-mono has much
without necessarily specking at all. and i further believe the more extreme
weather such men are willing to sail; the greater is their personal reward.
it's one thing to sail or maneuver a vessel if you are simply one of
10 or 15 bridge-crew who respond at the bridge-officer's orders. but to be
near or at the top of that chain of command; well that's not a place for the
faint-of-heart.
and what-if such bridge crew were only 5 in number. and you had
commonly taken the place of number two. could you simply give that up once
you left whatever vessel on which you served.....
well..... many can, but a few can't. it's this observers opinion that
where one has once held, and grown accustomed too, such levels of
responsibility, it is more than easily taken up once again when time and
circumstance calls. i also think this ability has cross-over's from the
civilian world as well. i see that man whom sails alone in all weather as a
likely through-back too the "alpha-male" example in the animal world.
and it is no wonder to fiver that such men, as few as they are; don't
find that other's much-like the rigor's of sailing "Their-Way". if it were
an easily followed way then would not every warm-water guy with a chick (or
two) and a *42 Hunter* be out doing it........ no i think not.....
but i'll sail with such Men just as i did in the days of my ill-spent
youth. days when i knew i couldn't die because i and my Capt. were better
than the other-side!
i will freely admit that i want it back; the days of high-risk and
un-sung glory....... the responsibility for several thousands of tons of
red-killing orca. Hell-Yes! who-the-hell wouldn't........
it's the man who's not the slightest bit concerned with the *toes*
whale commanding what's needed when her rails are awash. that is the only
boat this girl will sail until her own command is launched.
if your wife sail's with you guys, i have only one question to ask. is
she just the cook, or has she done her time before the mast.....
fiver.....
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Re: [Cal_Boats] the lone sailor......(fiver)
Chris Campbell2008-01-25 19:18 UTC
rick wrote:
>
> I recollect a trip back to Squalicum harbor from Sucia with steady
> winds at 35 with gusts to 50 and that little 5'2" 95lb woman on the
> foredeck hauling down the genoa (before we installed the roller
> furler) and spending half the time suspended in the air above deck due
> to the steep wave action that develops in Bellingham Bay.
>
So the obvious question is why the person with the weight disadvantage
was doing the heavy work and not sitting back in the cockpit steering
while the big guy went forward?
Chris Campbell
Re: the lone sailor......(fiver)
slickbutfoxbuger2008-01-25 19:29
that's easy....
she's got a star, and he's only got a bird.......
least that's what i think i understood him too say????
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> So the obvious question is why the person with the weight
disadvantage
> was doing the heavy work and not sitting back in the cockpit steering
> while the big guy went forward?
>
> Chris Campbell
>
RE: [Cal_Boats] the lone sailor......(Chris)
Scott Sauvageot2008-01-25 19:35 UTC
Actually, that was my question as well. :-) You took the words right out of my mouth!
It's much easier for the light person to helm the boat in a blow, allowing the "weight" to go up on the bow.
The only exception to this was when I was a boy, I sailed on a "Chance 1-Ton" The boat had been shortened by three feet and went from a spade rudder under the boat to a transom hung rudder. When the boat loaded up, the weather helm was so great, that the tiller would drag me across the cockpit. Helming the boat was really a challenge for me and my (then) 100#s of body mass.
Cheers!
Scott
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.comFrom: cl… [at] charterinternet.comDate: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:18:38 -0500Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] the lone sailor......(fiver)
rick wrote:
I recollect a trip back to Squalicum harbor from Sucia with steady winds at 35 with gusts to 50 and that little 5’2” 95lb woman on the foredeck hauling down the genoa (before we installed the roller furler) and spending half the time suspended in the air above deck due to the steep wave action that develops in Bellingham Bay. So the obvious question is why the person with the weight disadvantage was doing the heavy work and not sitting back in the cockpit steering while the big guy went forward?Chris Campbell
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RE: [Cal_Boats] the lone sailor......(Chris)
rick2008-01-25 19:58 UTC
Because the big Gorilla had a stroke 2 years ago and doesn't do the foredeck
thing very well anymore. After a brief discussion, the admiral informed me
it would be mutiny if I went to the fore deck to do the job. She decided
she would rather haul down the sail rather than my 300 lb backside out of
the water.
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Of Chris Campbell
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:19 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] the lone sailor......(fiver)
rick wrote:
I recollect a trip back to Squalicum harbor from Sucia with steady winds at
35 with gusts to 50 and that little 5'2" 95lb woman on the foredeck hauling
down the genoa (before we installed the roller furler) and spending half the
time suspended in the air above deck due to the steep wave action that
develops in Bellingham Bay.
So the obvious question is why the person with the weight disadvantage was
doing the heavy work and not sitting back in the cockpit steering while the
big guy went forward?
Chris Campbell
RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: the lone sailor......(fiver)
rick2008-01-25 19:59 UTC
roflmao, Fiver got it right. That's better than my explanation.
Rick
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From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of slickbutfoxbuger
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:29 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: the lone sailor......(fiver)
that's easy....
she's got a star, and he's only got a bird.......
least that's what i think i understood him too say????
***********************************
> So the obvious question is why the person with the weight
disadvantage
> was doing the heavy work and not sitting back in the cockpit steering
> while the big guy went forward?
>
> Chris Campbell
>