Re: [Cal_Boats] Marine Venders

Mike, Sounds you are totally refitting the boat. Ask Defender for their outfitting department and if your order is large enough you get an additional discount. John "Mark Twain" 1969 Cal 2-30, still for sale. From: Rob To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: 1/26/2008 11:59:42 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Marine Venders Mike, Defender is very reliable, and generally, lower cost than West Marine. They've been around for a long time and I've had nothing but good experiences buying from them. Rob "Bandit" Cal 40, #32 Oyster Bay, NY At 11:06 AM 1/26/2008, you wrote: --- Hello Group Is anyone able to provide information on the online store " Defender". I am in the Cayman Islands and I need to buy a few thousand dollars worth of dinghy's , electronics, safety gear and "Stuff" to get my 34 foot Cal ready for cruising in early '09. It is hard to get what I need on the Island and of, of course, very expensive. I suppose I am trying to find out how they compare to West Marine for online shopping. I have had very little experience with online shopping. Thank you for any replies. Mike Gavel " Jennamiah" Cal 34- 1976

Thanks for the replies guys. Your info was very helpful. By the way, I have been subscribed to this Cal group for over a year now and I almost feel like I know a lot of you. I am learning alot from all the conversations. Hopefully I will bump ( figuratively) into some of you on the trip from here to Vancouver,Canada. Thanks again and please keep the info flowing. Mike Gavel " Jennamiah" Cal 34- 1976 --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "jckwak@..." <jckwak@...> wrote: > > Mike, > Sounds you are totally refitting the boat. > Ask Defender for their outfitting department and if your order is large enough you get an additional discount. > John "Mark Twain" 1969 Cal 2-30, still for sale. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rob > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Sent: 1/26/2008 11:59:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Marine Venders > > > Mike, > > Defender is very reliable, and generally, lower cost than West Marine. They've been around for a long time and I've had nothing but good experiences buying from them. > > Rob > "Bandit" > Cal 40, #32 > Oyster Bay, NY > > At 11:06 AM 1/26/2008, you wrote: > > > --- > Hello Group > Is anyone able to provide information on the online store " Defender". > I am in the Cayman Islands and I need to buy a few thousand dollars > worth of dinghy's , electronics, safety gear and "Stuff" to get my 34 > foot Cal ready for cruising in early '09. It is hard to get what I need > on the Island and of, of course, very expensive. I suppose I am trying > to find out how they compare to West Marine for online shopping. I have > had very little experience with online shopping. Thank you for any > replies. > Mike Gavel > " Jennamiah" Cal 34- 1976 >

Hi Mike, In our travels from SoCal, 2 years in Mexico and Central America, plus 2 1/2 years roaming the Caribbean we found each country different in their import duty charges. Mostly PITA's. However, I sold a steering system to one of your fellow Canadians and the duty was about the same as the cost of the used system. In some countries, you could have incoming parts marked,"Yacht ______. in transit" and avoid or reduce duties. The Bahamas are about the most expensive as their main source of taxes is import duty, Budweiser is $48 a case, so we take our own beer there. I do not know about the Caymans. When we were enjoying our two years in Mexico, we had our old van there, so made regular trips back to Long Beach and brought gear back with no problemos, that $20 cash could not cure ;-). In Trinidad, a local had set up a West Marine/Port Supply account and had a conex shipped in whenever he had sold enough, good prices. While we were there we were hired to deliver two boats back to the USA, so on our way back we brought essentials, like an air conditioner, back in our luggage. I am not suggesting you not obey the local laws. Depending on your long term plans, it may be less expensive to take the necessary safety items with you in your luggage, then sail up to the Florida Keys and do your shopping, at West Marine. Maybe you can find another cruiser heading down the islands aand get him to bring a few items for you. Last winter one of our cruiser friends drug anchor by Cayman Brac and suffered a lot of damage. They got a local to tow them to Grand Cayman to haul out and repair. They were pleased with the local service and prices. They are somewhere down there now and we have lost contact, but if you see a Valiant 40, named "WILLOW", Nancy is the owner, a good friend of ours. Good luck, Tom and Bobbie Vandiver, Cal 46 & Cal 25 temporarily hook down in Bayou Chico, FL --- "mike.gavel" <mi… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the replies guys. Your info was very > helpful. By the way, > I have been subscribed to this Cal group for over a > year now and I > almost feel like I know a lot of you. I am learning > alot from all the > conversations. Hopefully I will bump ( figuratively) > into some of you > on the trip from here to Vancouver,Canada. Thanks > again and please > keep the info flowing. > Mike Gavel > " Jennamiah" Cal 34- 1976 > > > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "jckwak@..." > <jckwak@...> wrote: > > > > Mike, > > Sounds you are totally refitting the boat. > > Ask Defender for their outfitting department and > if your order is > large enough you get an additional discount. > > John "Mark Twain" 1969 Cal 2-30, still for sale. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Rob > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > > Sent: 1/26/2008 11:59:42 AM > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Marine Venders > > > > > > Mike, > > > > Defender is very reliable, and generally, lower > cost than West > Marine. They've been around for a long time and > I've had nothing but > good experiences buying from them. > > > > Rob > > "Bandit" > > Cal 40, #32 > > Oyster Bay, NY > > > > At 11:06 AM 1/26/2008, you wrote: > > > > > > --- > > Hello Group > > Is anyone able to provide information on the > online store " > Defender". > > I am in the Cayman Islands and I need to buy a few > thousand dollars > > worth of dinghy's , electronics, safety gear and > "Stuff" to get my > 34 > > foot Cal ready for cruising in early '09. It is > hard to get what I > need > > on the Island and of, of course, very expensive. I > suppose I am > trying > > to find out how they compare to West Marine for > online shopping. I > have > > had very little experience with online shopping. > Thank you for any > > replies. > > Mike Gavel > > " Jennamiah" Cal 34- 1976 > > > > >

Tom: I thought Nancy and Willow were going to be Nancy and the catamaran. Did they keep the Valiant? Janet Plume, Editor/Gulf Shipper 826 Fern Street New Orleans, La. 70118 504-866-7076 cell: 504-250-4539 email: jp… [at] joc.com We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Vandiver Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:41 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Marine Venders Hi Mike, In our travels from SoCal, 2 years in Mexico and Central America, plus 2 1/2 years roaming the Caribbean we found each country different in their import duty charges. Mostly PITA's. However, I sold a steering system to one of your fellow Canadians and the duty was about the same as the cost of the used system. In some countries, you could have incoming parts marked,"Yacht ______. in transit" and avoid or reduce duties. The Bahamas are about the most expensive as their main source of taxes is import duty, Budweiser is $48 a case, so we take our own beer there. I do not know about the Caymans. When we were enjoying our two years in Mexico, we had our old van there, so made regular trips back to Long Beach and brought gear back with no problemos, that $20 cash could not cure ;-). In Trinidad, a local had set up a West Marine/Port Supply account and had a conex shipped in whenever he had sold enough, good prices. While we were there we were hired to deliver two boats back to the USA, so on our way back we brought essentials, like an air conditioner, back in our luggage. I am not suggesting you not obey the local laws. Depending on your long term plans, it may be less expensive to take the necessary safety items with you in your luggage, then sail up to the Florida Keys and do your shopping, at West Marine. Maybe you can find another cruiser heading down the islands aand get him to bring a few items for you. Last winter one of our cruiser friends drug anchor by Cayman Brac and suffered a lot of damage. They got a local to tow them to Grand Cayman to haul out and repair. They were pleased with the local service and prices. They are somewhere down there now and we have lost contact, but if you see a Valiant 40, named "WILLOW", Nancy is the owner, a good friend of ours. Good luck, Tom and Bobbie Vandiver, Cal 46 & Cal 25 temporarily hook down in Bayou Chico, FL --- "mike.gavel" <mi… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:mike_gavel%40hotmail.com> > wrote: > Thanks for the replies guys. Your info was very > helpful. By the way, > I have been subscribed to this Cal group for over a > year now and I > almost feel like I know a lot of you. I am learning > alot from all the > conversations. Hopefully I will bump ( figuratively) > into some of you > on the trip from here to Vancouver,Canada. Thanks > again and please > keep the info flowing. > Mike Gavel > " Jennamiah" Cal 34- 1976 > > > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , "jckwak@..." > <jckwak@...> wrote: > > > > Mike, > > Sounds you are totally refitting the boat. > > Ask Defender for their outfitting department and > if your order is > large enough you get an additional discount. > > John "Mark Twain" 1969 Cal 2-30, still for sale. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Rob > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: 1/26/2008 11:59:42 AM > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Marine Venders > > > > > > Mike, > > > > Defender is very reliable, and generally, lower > cost than West > Marine. They've been around for a long time and > I've had nothing but > good experiences buying from them. > > > > Rob > > "Bandit" > > Cal 40, #32 > > Oyster Bay, NY > > > > At 11:06 AM 1/26/2008, you wrote: > > > > > > --- > > Hello Group > > Is anyone able to provide information on the > online store " > Defender". > > I am in the Cayman Islands and I need to buy a few > thousand dollars > > worth of dinghy's , electronics, safety gear and > "Stuff" to get my > 34 > > foot Cal ready for cruising in early '09. It is > hard to get what I > need > > on the Island and of, of course, very expensive. I > suppose I am > trying > > to find out how they compare to West Marine for > online shopping. I > have > > had very little experience with online shopping. > Thank you for any > > replies. > > Mike Gavel > > " Jennamiah" Cal 34- 1976 > > > > >

Hi Janet, Long time no talk.... Unfortunately, Nancy and Judith broke up, nancy kept the Valiant, Judith the house. They are still good friends of ours. I don't think Nancy has very much income, so things have changed. She met a nice lady from newport Beach, CA and has been hanging out there, but still using Willow. We have not heard from her in several months. Miss her. Bravura is getting a total paint job, same colors and scheme, just fresh. It has been well timed as I have been in the hospital for over a month, Nov., Dec. Now back home but cannot walk as I lost my inner ear balance function due to over prescription of antibiotocs. I am getting better, but cannot drive a car, or walk without asistance. Don't know about going to sea again???? My granddaughters will be racing Bravura this summer in the two all female races. Want to come and be skipper? Tom and Bobbie --- Janet PLume <pl… [at] cox.net> wrote: > Tom: > > I thought Nancy and Willow were going to be Nancy > and the catamaran. Did they > keep the Valiant? > > > > > > Janet Plume, Editor/Gulf Shipper > > 826 Fern Street > > New Orleans, La. 70118 > > 504-866-7076 > > cell: 504-250-4539 > > email: jp… [at] joc.com > > > > We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is > not an act, but a habit. > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > Tom Vandiver > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:41 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Marine Venders > > > > Hi Mike, > > In our travels from SoCal, 2 years in Mexico and > Central America, plus 2 1/2 years roaming the > Caribbean we found each country different in their > import duty charges. Mostly PITA's. However, I sold > a > steering system to one of your fellow Canadians and > the duty was about the same as the cost of the used > system. > > In some countries, you could have incoming parts > marked,"Yacht ______. in transit" and avoid or > reduce > duties. The Bahamas are about the most expensive as > their main source of taxes is import duty, Budweiser > is $48 a case, so we take our own beer there. I do > not > know about the Caymans. > > When we were enjoying our two years in Mexico, we > had > our old van there, so made regular trips back to > Long > Beach and brought gear back with no problemos, that > $20 cash could not cure ;-). In Trinidad, a local > had > set up a West Marine/Port Supply account and had a > conex shipped in whenever he had sold enough, good > prices. While we were there we were hired to deliver > two boats back to the USA, so on our way back we > brought essentials, like an air conditioner, back in > our luggage. > > I am not suggesting you not obey the local laws. > Depending on your long term plans, it may be less > expensive to take the necessary safety items with > you > in your luggage, then sail up to the Florida Keys > and > do your shopping, at West Marine. Maybe you can find > another cruiser heading down the islands aand get > him > to bring a few items for you. Last winter one of our > cruiser friends drug anchor by Cayman Brac and > suffered a lot of damage. They got a local to tow > them > to Grand Cayman to haul out and repair. They were > pleased with the local service and prices. They are > somewhere down there now and we have lost contact, > but > if you see a Valiant 40, named "WILLOW", Nancy is > the > owner, a good friend of ours. > > Good luck, > > Tom and Bobbie Vandiver, Cal 46 & Cal 25 temporarily > hook down in Bayou Chico, FL > > --- "mike.gavel" <mi… [at] hotmail.com > <mailto:mike_gavel%40hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Thanks for the replies guys. Your info was very > > helpful. By the way, > > I have been subscribed to this Cal group for over > a > > year now and I > > almost feel like I know a lot of you. I am > learning > > alot from all the > > conversations. Hopefully I will bump ( > figuratively) > > into some of you > > on the trip from here to Vancouver,Canada. Thanks > > again and please > > keep the info flowing. > > Mike Gavel > > " Jennamiah" Cal 34- 1976 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , > "jckwak@..." > > <jckwak@...> wrote: > > > > > > Mike, > > > Sounds you are totally refitting the boat. > > > Ask Defender for their outfitting department and > > if your order is > > large enough you get an additional discount. > > > John "Mark Twain" 1969 Cal 2-30, still for sale. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Rob > > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: 1/26/2008 11:59:42 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Marine Venders > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > Defender is very reliable, and generally, lower > > cost than West > > Marine. They've been around for a long time and > > I've had nothing but > > good experiences buying from them. > > > > > > Rob > > > "Bandit" > > > Cal 40, #32 > > > Oyster Bay, NY > > > > > > At 11:06 AM 1/26/2008, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Hello Group > > > Is anyone able to provide information on the > > online store " > > Defender". > > > I am in the Cayman Islands and I need to buy a > few > > thousand dollars > > > worth of dinghy's , electronics, safety gear and > > "Stuff" to get my > > 34 > > > foot Cal ready for cruising in early '09. It is > > hard to get what I > > need > > > on the Island and of, of course, very expensive. > I > > suppose I am > > trying > > > to find out how they compare to West Marine for > > online shopping. I > > have > > > had very little experience with online shopping. > > Thank you for any > > > replies. > > > Mike Gavel > > > " Jennamiah" Cal 34- 1976 > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Tom: Sounds like you have had a tough 2007. Hope 2008 will be a better one for you. Perhaps the ear issue will improve? I sincerely hope so! What hospital were you in? I need to remember never to go there! When are the races that your granddaughters will be in? I would LOVE to try to make it over to Bayou Chico for some time on Bravura! Hello to Bobbie..how's she doing? Take care and keep in touch, Janet Plume, Editor/Gulf Shipper 826 Fern Street New Orleans, La. 70118 504-866-7076 cell: 504-250-4539 email: jp… [at] joc.com We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Vandiver Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Marine Venders Hi Janet, Long time no talk.... Unfortunately, Nancy and Judith broke up, nancy kept the Valiant, Judith the house. They are still good friends of ours. I don't think Nancy has very much income, so things have changed. She met a nice lady from newport Beach, CA and has been hanging out there, but still using Willow. We have not heard from her in several months. Miss her. Bravura is getting a total paint job, same colors and scheme, just fresh. It has been well timed as I have been in the hospital for over a month, Nov., Dec. Now back home but cannot walk as I lost my inner ear balance function due to over prescription of antibiotocs. I am getting better, but cannot drive a car, or walk without asistance. Don't know about going to sea again???? My granddaughters will be racing Bravura this summer in the two all female races. Want to come and be skipper? Tom and Bobbie --- Janet PLume <pl… [at] cox.net <mailto:plumeink%40cox.net> > wrote: > Tom: > > I thought Nancy and Willow were going to be Nancy > and the catamaran. Did they > keep the Valiant? > > > > > > Janet Plume, Editor/Gulf Shipper > > 826 Fern Street > > New Orleans, La. 70118 > > 504-866-7076 > > cell: 504-250-4539 > > email: jp… [at] joc.com <mailto:jplume%40joc.com> > > > > We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is > not an act, but a habit. > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of > Tom Vandiver > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:41 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Marine Venders > > > > Hi Mike, > > In our travels from SoCal, 2 years in Mexico and > Central America, plus 2 1/2 years roaming the > Caribbean we found each country different in their > import duty charges. Mostly PITA's. However, I sold > a > steering system to one of your fellow Canadians and > the duty was about the same as the cost of the used > system. > > In some countries, you could have incoming parts > marked,"Yacht ______. in transit" and avoid or > reduce > duties. The Bahamas are about the most expensive as > their main source of taxes is import duty, Budweiser > is $48 a case, so we take our own beer there. I do > not > know about the Caymans. > > When we were enjoying our two years in Mexico, we > had > our old van there, so made regular trips back to > Long > Beach and brought gear back with no problemos, that > $20 cash could not cure ;-). In Trinidad, a local > had > set up a West Marine/Port Supply account and had a > conex shipped in whenever he had sold enough, good > prices. While we were there we were hired to deliver > two boats back to the USA, so on our way back we > brought essentials, like an air conditioner, back in > our luggage. > > I am not suggesting you not obey the local laws. > Depending on your long term plans, it may be less > expensive to take the necessary safety items with > you > in your luggage, then sail up to the Florida Keys > and > do your shopping, at West Marine. Maybe you can find > another cruiser heading down the islands aand get > him > to bring a few items for you. Last winter one of our > cruiser friends drug anchor by Cayman Brac and > suffered a lot of damage. They got a local to tow > them > to Grand Cayman to haul out and repair. They were > pleased with the local service and prices. They are > somewhere down there now and we have lost contact, > but > if you see a Valiant 40, named "WILLOW", Nancy is > the > owner, a good friend of ours. > > Good luck, > > Tom and Bobbie Vandiver, Cal 46 & Cal 25 temporarily > hook down in Bayou Chico, FL > > --- "mike.gavel" <mi… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:mike_gavel%40hotmail.com> > <mailto:mike_gavel%40hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Thanks for the replies guys. Your info was very > > helpful. By the way, > > I have been subscribed to this Cal group for over > a > > year now and I > > almost feel like I know a lot of you. I am > learning > > alot from all the > > conversations. Hopefully I will bump ( > figuratively) > > into some of you > > on the trip from here to Vancouver,Canada. Thanks > > again and please > > keep the info flowing. > > Mike Gavel > > " Jennamiah" Cal 34- 1976 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> , > "jckwak@..." > > <jckwak@...> wrote: > > > > > > Mike, > > > Sounds you are totally refitting the boat. > > > Ask Defender for their outfitting department and > > if your order is > > large enough you get an additional discount. > > > John "Mark Twain" 1969 Cal 2-30, still for sale. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Rob > > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:Cal_Boats%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: 1/26/2008 11:59:42 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Marine Venders > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > Defender is very reliable, and generally, lower > > cost than West > > Marine. They've been around for a long time and > > I've had nothing but > > good experiences buying from them. > > > > > > Rob > > > "Bandit" > > > Cal 40, #32 > > > Oyster Bay, NY > > > > > > At 11:06 AM 1/26/2008, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Hello Group > > > Is anyone able to provide information on the > > online store " > > Defender". > > > I am in the Cayman Islands and I need to buy a > few > > thousand dollars > > > worth of dinghy's , electronics, safety gear and > > "Stuff" to get my > > 34 > > > foot Cal ready for cruising in early '09. It is > > hard to get what I > > need > > > on the Island and of, of course, very expensive. > I > > suppose I am > > trying > > > to find out how they compare to West Marine for > > online shopping. I > > have > > > had very little experience with online shopping. > > Thank you for any > > > replies. > > > Mike Gavel > > > " Jennamiah" Cal 34- 1976 > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Really glad to hear your voice again, Tom. Wish you all the best for further recovery. Regards - Nick From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Vandiver Sent: January 27, 2008 8:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Marine Venders ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bravura is getting a total paint job, same colors and scheme, just fresh. It has been well timed as I have been in the hospital for over a month, Nov., Dec. Now back home but cannot walk as I lost my inner ear balance function due to over prescription of antibiotocs. I am getting better, but cannot drive a car, or walk without asistance. Don't know about going to sea again ~~~~ Tom and Bobbie